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[taiyuu_otoko]

She is 22 for pete's sake, and she is a low quality female who has no conscience when it comes to interacting with men. Why and how did SHE get all of our energy ?

22 y/o girls are hot.

Men would love to fukk them indiscriminantly.

When we can't, we turn to the internet, to try and find comoraderie and support why we couldn't.

Usually that presents itself in convoluted discussion about womens' character, the feminized world, some kind of matix, etc etc.

Easier on the ego that way.

You'll notice that posts in the general forum are in the form "What did I do wrong, what should I do.." while posts in the MMF are in the form of "here's an example of why girls are messed up..."

Interesting how that is.

 

[ketostix]

You'll notice that posts in the general forum are in the form "What did I do wrong, what should I do.." while posts in the MMF are in the form of "here's an example of why girls are messed up..."

Interesting how that is.

The DJD is made up of more younger guys who only care about just getting laid at any cost. And I think after several years of dealing with women you start to realize that regardless of what you do or don't do, you are not totally responsible for a woman's behavior.

As far as this thread goes, I didn't see as so much as about some particular 22 year-old. She was just a case study of the biggger picture and bigger question of how best to go about dealing with common female behavior.

 

[STR8UP]

The DJD is made up of more younger guys who only care about just getting laid at any cost. And I think after several years of dealing with women you start to realize that regardless of what you do or don't do, you are not totally responsible for a woman's behavior.

As far as this thread goes, I didn't see as so much as about some particular 22 year-old. She was just a case study of the biggger picture and bigger question of how best to go about dealing with common female behavior.

Thank you.

It has nothing to do with HER. It's about how the type of behavior she exhibits is becoming more acceptable and commonplace. It's about dissecting it for a better understanding.

It's really easy to say "She's a low quality flake. Don't give her another second of your time." and leave it at that, but some of us like to delve deeper and get a better understanding of this type of behavior which gives us a clearer picture of the way women think in general. It's like a puzzle that we are putting together one piece at a time. It all makes more sense the more pieces that get put into place.

 

[cordoncordon]

I'll bet that your 22 year old flake would get mighty excited if she ever read this thread.
Just consider this - a bitty 22 yr old brat with no scruples can trigger off a thread on the MATURE Man's forum which runs 5 pages and almost 100 replies from a collection of sophisticated men of the world who are willing to endlessly debate her actions and how best to react to them.

She is 22 for pete's sake, and she is a low quality female who has no conscience when it comes to interacting with men. Why and how did SHE get all of our energy ?

I said this 3 pages ago.

STOP talking about her! She doesn't care why should you?

 

[cordoncordon]

22 y/o girls are hot.

Men would love to fukk them indiscriminantly.

That I agree with lol!

 

[jophil28]

...some of us like to delve deeper and get a better understanding of this type of behavior which gives us a clearer picture of the way women think in general. It's like a puzzle that we are putting together one piece at a time. It all makes more sense the more pieces that get put into place.

OK, but how long do you think it will take before your beloved "delving" will get you (a) some respectful behavior from a woman and (b) some spontaneous fornication ?

Your dry spell is now officially a drought.

 

[Tazman]

I don't understand the problem people are having with this discussion, it's something we all deal with.

I can understand something like just walking away from a woman who just spit in your face, but when you're dealing with a passive/aggressive move like being stood up, it's a waste of time to (especially given this woman's history) give a lecture about it. She already knows what she did, and it will simply feed her ego to know that it upset you so much.

When you walk away it's self explanatory and also leaves a little ambiguity as to what your next move will be, let her wonder about you until oblivion, it's not your problem.

 

[jophil28]

I don't understand the problem people are having with this discussion, it's something we all deal with.

I can understand something like just walking away from a woman who just spit in your face, but when you're dealing with a passive/aggressive move like being stood up, it's a waste of time to (especially given this woman's history) give a lecture about it. She already knows what she did, and it will simply feed her ego to know that it upset you so much.

When you walk away it's self explanatory and also leaves a little ambiguity as to what your next move will be, let her wonder about you until oblivion, it's not your problem.

The way that you handle disrespect from a woman is not particularly important. It is vital to know WHEN to walk ,and cut her loose..the 'how' is trivial detail.
Walk away, or read her the riot act...who really cares. What is important is that you assert and impose your limits and boundaries (assuming that you actually have some). Ultimately, what you say and how you detach is not important. What is imporatnt is that you never give her another chance to do it again. One strike ...etc..

The popular view here is that giving her a piece of your mind will give her an ego boost. SO what. Why do some of you guys have such a big fear about this ? Why do you still care what someone thinks about you who does not care enough to treat you with respect in the first place.

My favorite parting gesture is -

" I have high standards and clear expectations. You do not meet them ."

THEN just walk away without another word.

 

[STR8UP]

OK, but how long do you think it will take before your beloved "delving" will get you (a) some respectful behavior from a woman and (b) some spontaneous fornication ?

So lets just chalk it up to "it happens" and each deal with it the way society has programmed us to....yea....that seems like the best course of action....

You've obviously graduated from Hoochie U, why are you still attending class?

 

[englishman]

I dunno, to be honest it sounds like you knew what she was like and you got a whipping?

 

[STR8UP]

Nobody is against you here. We want to see you nailing 22 year old pusssy for the next 10 years, but you aren't going to get any if you don't get a ****ing backbone when in the pressence of that 22 year old pusssy.

Just remember.....two years ago this same chick was IN LOVE with me. She worshipped the ground I walked on. So a lot of this stems from not being able to gauge interest level in a traditional way (she was living far away and still lives 3 1/2 hr drive from me), so I took for granted that her interest was still high. Now I know her game.

And as far as the backbone goes.....I called her out once, and this time she's cut off. How much more of a backbone can you get?

 

[GuanYu]

This may seem random, but I'm just curious...

If this 22 yr old suddenly calls you and wants to fvck, would you? She'll come to your place when it's convenient for you, etc...

 

[Mr. Me]

two years ago this same chick was IN LOVE with me. She worshipped the ground I walked on. So a lot of this stems from not being able to gauge interest level in a traditional way (she was living far away and still lives 3 1/2 hr drive from me), so I took for granted that her interest was still high.

It's difficult to keep interest level high when someone lives 3½ hours away and it's been 2 years. Out of sight, out of mind. The problem isn't about guaging her IL, it's more about figuring that odds dictate the circumstances helped dissipate it and if anything, you'd have to rebuild it. Of course, her flaking in the past would've been a big clue that her IL had changed.

 

[GuanYu]

^^Also the chick was 20 back then so her range and exposure to more men increased a lot when she turned 21. She probably had more sausages than Johnsonville and a much easier time getting over you.

 

[STR8UP]

For the record....

She has tried to contact me 4 or 5 times since. She will probably eventually get desperate and have her friend call me and beg me to talk to her. She knows she fukked up.

What's REALLY funny is that both of these chicks have told me in the past that I am "bitter and jaded" by my ex g/f. Then on New Years Eve, out of the blue, the 22yo's best friend comes up to me and says "Don't let her (the 22yo) make you bitter!" I don't talk about this chick AT ALL around her friend, so i don't know where that came from.

So here you have a woman (who i essentially rejected in the past for a relationship) calling me "bitter" as a shaming tactic, who is now telling me not to be bitter at the actions of her friend who in the past also called me bitter!

Then I tell the friend to give me a new years kiss and she says "I can't, you belong to my best friend!"

I was like, "You GOT to be kidding me, what kind of bullsh!t is that??"

Dumb ass women......

This may seem random, but I'm just curious...

If this 22 yr old suddenly calls you and wants to fvck, would you? She'll come to your place when it's convenient for you, etc...

Well the obvious problem with that scenario is that the only way this could possibly happen is if she was waiting naked on my doorstep one day when I got home, cause I sure as hell won't be making any plans with her again.

I don't see that happening anytime soon.

 

[Mr. Me]

Perhaps you're too close to the situation to see it, so I'll tell you my slant on it str8up:

I tell the friend to give me a new years kiss and she says "I can't, you belong to my best friend!"

I was like, "You GOT to be kidding me, what kind of bullsh!t is that??"

My rule is, when it doesn't make sense, it's because it's bull. A smokescreen, if you will. She just didn't want to kiss you, but rather then tell you that, she tells you BS.

She has tried to contact me 4 or 5 times since. She will probably eventually get desperate and have her friend call me and beg me to talk to her. She knows she fukked up.

is more probably along the lines of:

"She has tried to contact me 4 or 5 times since, so she can pull me back in. She wants me around so I'll give her ego the attention stroke she desires when and if. That being said, I prefer to believe that her knowing she fukked up with me really means something to her, like she really cares. Of course, if she really cared, she wouldn't have flaked. Twice."

What's REALLY funny is that both of these chicks have told me in the past that I am "bitter and jaded" by my ex g/f... the 22yo's best friend comes up to me and says "Don't let her (the 22yo) make you bitter!" I don't talk about this chick AT ALL around her friend, so I don't know where that came from.

It came from the ex. SHE'S the one who fed them that information. And everything you say and do with the ex's GF's gets relayed back to the ex, as they're her friends, not yours.

I know you'll probably disagree and give reasons why, but the above is how the world works.

 

[decades]

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[decades]

good luck with dis one....

 

[STR8UP]

My rule is, when it doesn't make sense, it's because it's bull. A smokescreen, if you will. She just didn't want to kiss you, but rather then tell you that, she tells you BS.

I did get the kiss later. I've messed around with this chick before. Probably could have hit it if my friend wasn't already banging her on the side. She honestly thinks there is something between me and the 22yo, I am assuming because she gets vague details and contradictions from the 22yo. It doesn't come from my mouth, that's for sure.

"She has tried to contact me 4 or 5 times since, so she can pull me back in. She wants me around so I'll give her ego the attention stroke she desires when and if. That being said, I prefer to believe that her knowing she fukked up with me really means something to her, like she really cares. Of course, if she really cared, she wouldn't have flaked. Twice."

I never denied that her motivation to keep me around was for attention. I didn't say that she cared, I said she knows she fukked up. Big difference.

It came from the ex. SHE'S the one who fed them that information. And everything you say and do with the ex's GF's gets relayed back to the ex, as they're her friends, not yours.

They didn't know my ex.

They both reached that conclusion after I rejected a relationship with the 22yo. It's a SHAMING tactic. No different than a woman calling you commitmentphobic. It's not that I'm afraid to commit baby, I just don't want to commit to YOU.

 

[Mr. Me]

"I did get the kiss later. "

She evidently changed her mind. But when she originally said she couldn't kiss you 'cuz you belong to her friend, that was BS (obviously in light of her later action). She just didn't want to kiss you then. Unless she really is the world's most loyal BFF and truly couldn't kiss you because she felt loyalty to her friend. Oh, but she can't be, because she kissed you later. Okay, so, she BS'ed you. I was right.

"They didn't know my ex."

I meant the 22 y. o. It came from her.

You didn't discuss her to her friends you said. The only source would be the 22 y. o. "Oh him... he's bitter and jaded" is what she probably told them. Maybe she got that vibe while you were down recently. Or maybe it's her putting you down (or more realistically, placing herself as powerful over you) or the third option is that you come off as bitter and jaded.

Reagrding the last option, if you were happy go lucky, them trying to "shame you" with labeling you as bitter & jaded wouldn't fly. It would be a non sequitor. Now, I'm not saying you ARE bitter & jaded (though you could be for all I know), but somehow maybe you tend to come off sometimes that way, whether you're aware of it or not.

"I said she knows she fukked up. Big difference."

You put that in your telling of how she was trying to get in touch with you. The message I got therefore from your writing was that this was somehow relevant to that. That 'knowing she fukked up' had something to do with why she was trying to get in touch with you.