This right here is the main reason for your gainsI-tallionStallion said:
Great progress man....i'd love to see you log a squats and milk 6week cycle after you finish up with what your doing now. You'd make some sicks gains on it.
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Great progress man....i'd love to see you log a squats and milk 6week cycle after you finish up with what your doing now. You'd make some sicks gains on it.
Quagmire911
Master Don Juan
Yeh, some great work. The squats have gone up a huge amount. Your bench has still done well. Deadlift is looking good too.
Keep it up.
Keep it up.
I-tallionStallion
Master Don Juan
okay...i've added pics, check my last post ---hopefully they work...let me know.
Thanks Johnny its true, and its a great lifestyle change. And its cool we can all help eachother.
EFFORT...i appreciate the kind words. You are def an inspiration and I feel more people should take your advice, its simple, and it gets the job done. Now once I'm done lowering my bf% we can talk about this milk&squats thing, i imagine it will be in late june or july. And you can help me take it from there if you are cool with that
Quag- My bench sucks....haha but thanks.
Thanks Johnny its true, and its a great lifestyle change. And its cool we can all help eachother.
EFFORT...i appreciate the kind words. You are def an inspiration and I feel more people should take your advice, its simple, and it gets the job done. Now once I'm done lowering my bf% we can talk about this milk&squats thing, i imagine it will be in late june or july. And you can help me take it from there if you are cool with that
Quag- My bench sucks....haha but thanks.
I-tallionStallion
Master Don Juan
ALrighty....its wednesday...
Wed
Incline Bench - Still can't get 3. But its my first real week back so I don't expect my lifts to be up to where i left off till next week
1x2 180 lbs ----UGH! Lets see what happens next week
1x7 146 lbs
OH Press 2x8
1x8 - 105 lbs
1x9- 110 lbs PR
Dips 3x6-8 PR I was finally able to do them with out assitance on the last set...which made me very happy. I plan on getting a chain to add weight very soon
Skull crushers 2x8- as usual, i am shot beyond belief in the arms from everything...so its been awhile since i've been able to do 45 lbs skulls
1x8 - 35 lbs
1x10 - 35 lbs ---my arms were like gelatin
Not a bad day...as long as there are PR's i am happy
Wed
Incline Bench - Still can't get 3. But its my first real week back so I don't expect my lifts to be up to where i left off till next week
1x2 180 lbs ----UGH! Lets see what happens next week
1x7 146 lbs
OH Press 2x8
1x8 - 105 lbs
1x9- 110 lbs PR
Dips 3x6-8 PR I was finally able to do them with out assitance on the last set...which made me very happy. I plan on getting a chain to add weight very soon
Skull crushers 2x8- as usual, i am shot beyond belief in the arms from everything...so its been awhile since i've been able to do 45 lbs skulls
1x8 - 35 lbs
1x10 - 35 lbs ---my arms were like gelatin
Not a bad day...as long as there are PR's i am happy
kickureface
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post some lower body pics!
I-tallionStallion
Master Don Juan
MM....thanks i am very aware. But also realize that i've only been bulking for 7 months. So can i get a little of a break. My chest in august was completely flat lol.Mad Manic said:
I was benching 95 lbs in August, and I've practically doubled it in less than a year. There are still many things to try, it will go up, and so will the size. Its just a matter of time, eating, and technique
kickureface...i'll see what i can do.
I've looked at your routine and there is no chest work. 2 sets of incline? Come on now. I do 5 sets flat, 4 sets incline and 3 sets of chest dips + a dropset to finish; these are worksets. I wouldn't call that high volume. You're better off moving to a split at this stage to make some real gains.
Your back looks small as well, just from the front there seems to be no v-taper there. What are you doing for back?
MM
Your back looks small as well, just from the front there seems to be no v-taper there. What are you doing for back?
MM
Quagmire911
Master Don Juan
You have put on a noticeable amount of muscle mass, but I think you probably put on more fat than you should have along with it. Not to worry however; it is your first year. Your commitment is obvious and commendable, perhaps the only issue may have been that calories were a bit too high and probably carbs.
As far as the chest is concerned, dips are usually citied as the best mass builder for the upper body(front), along with chins (more for the back obviously). However for most there is little to no carry over to the bench, so remember that.
Apart from that, keep up the good work, keep on with the diet and good luck with the rest of the year. If this template doesn't work for your bench I have probably a near 100% solution, which is also for pretty much everyone.
Ps-Also remember to take everything MM says about size with a grain of salt, he has body dismorphia issues.
As far as the chest is concerned, dips are usually citied as the best mass builder for the upper body(front), along with chins (more for the back obviously). However for most there is little to no carry over to the bench, so remember that.
Apart from that, keep up the good work, keep on with the diet and good luck with the rest of the year. If this template doesn't work for your bench I have probably a near 100% solution, which is also for pretty much everyone.
Ps-Also remember to take everything MM says about size with a grain of salt, he has body dismorphia issues.
I-tallionStallion
Master Don Juan
MM that one of my pic was of my back 6 months ago haha. I forgot to upload another one. I will in a little while. Btw, i really don't feel like doing a ton of chest work. I try to shoot for quality, not quantity.
Quag thanks. I did put on a lot more fat than i wanted (friends dragged me out to fast food places and i ate sometimes haha and drank on the weekends too.) But at the same time, if you look of the last two pics, you can't argue the fat loss. And I'm around 202 lbs so I think thats good.
yeah, this is still only my second week back. I'm not too concerned
Quag thanks. I did put on a lot more fat than i wanted (friends dragged me out to fast food places and i ate sometimes haha and drank on the weekends too.) But at the same time, if you look of the last two pics, you can't argue the fat loss. And I'm around 202 lbs so I think thats good.
yeah, this is still only my second week back. I'm not too concerned
Quagmire911
Master Don Juan
Yes the fat loss is there. Another 8-10 weeks will see a big difference.
Between 12% and 15% bf there is very little visible change. You can see this in Dave Tate pics, and I noticed it with myself. With my own diet my abs literally appeared from know where, you will notice it too.
Keep it up.
Between 12% and 15% bf there is very little visible change. You can see this in Dave Tate pics, and I noticed it with myself. With my own diet my abs literally appeared from know where, you will notice it too.
Keep it up.
Quagmire911
Master Don Juan
And happy birthday
I was only judging your most recent pic which is a front upper body shot. There are no sign of lats or pecs tbh. Time for a split tbh, and looking at your routine with 2 sets of pull ups and 2 sets of incline press its hardly a surprise there are no pecs or lats on your physique. You get what you put in, and 2 sets is not much to force the body into growth. Lazy routines = poor results.I-tallionStallion said:
MM
You're the one to blame, giving him stupid routines doing 2 sets for the chest and 2 sets for the back, what on earth is that it definitely isn't bodybuilding that's for sure. I think you owe him an apology, and if he's added too much fat like you said then you owe him another apology for that as well. When you don't stress the body enough and you over-eat on carbs and protein then the result is fat and not enough muscle.Quagmire911 said:
Anyway Stallion good luck in whatever you decide to do.
MM
Quagmire911
Master Don Juan
There there, its ok...Mad Manic said:
I-tallionStallion
Master Don Juan
whoa guys...chill. LIKE I SAID...i've only been doing this hardcore for 7 months now. I'm bound to make mistakes. I have learned (and i don't do it anymore) that carbs at night make me fat. SO i cut it out with the fast food for the last couple months, and try to limit drinking to once every two weeks. The last three months i've been almost perfect. And april i walked almost everyday.
Now in regards to pics mm...here are some more, maybe it will clear things up.
this was me about 7 months ago at 176ish
http://profile.imageshack.us/user/itallionstallion/images/detail/#182/yogb7.jpg
this was me at the end of march (noticeable body fat is gone from the more recent pic, but not a bad pic of my body)
http://profile.imageshack.us/user/itallionstallion/images/detail/#206/2620905128840754430vw2.jpg
this pic is of my back at the end of March
http://profile.imageshack.us/user/itallionstallion/images/detail/#206/2481316678346205790uy9.jpg
alright...i put left my face in cause i'm hot :moon: and if you don't think so, who cares what you think
Now stop argueing...its been 7 months of bulking the best i could have. I'm still new, but i think i am a decently strong newbie. I'm still learning my body.
MM, i'm trying Quags idea to see if it works for me. It worked for him...BTW he didn't give me a diet. I think my diet has been pretty damn good compared to a lot of other people. Its the night life that has killed me.
Time will tell, but there is two things I'm certain of - I'm losing bodyfat, and getting stronger slowly. It takes awhile to get big. I didn't think it would take 7 months of bulking, i planned on 2 years of bulking to get a decently nice body. (it hasn't even been half that time) And not to mention i have strength goals. SO....yeah
Now in regards to pics mm...here are some more, maybe it will clear things up.
this was me about 7 months ago at 176ish
http://profile.imageshack.us/user/itallionstallion/images/detail/#182/yogb7.jpg
this was me at the end of march (noticeable body fat is gone from the more recent pic, but not a bad pic of my body)
http://profile.imageshack.us/user/itallionstallion/images/detail/#206/2620905128840754430vw2.jpg
this pic is of my back at the end of March
http://profile.imageshack.us/user/itallionstallion/images/detail/#206/2481316678346205790uy9.jpg
alright...i put left my face in cause i'm hot :moon: and if you don't think so, who cares what you think
Now stop argueing...its been 7 months of bulking the best i could have. I'm still new, but i think i am a decently strong newbie. I'm still learning my body.
MM, i'm trying Quags idea to see if it works for me. It worked for him...BTW he didn't give me a diet. I think my diet has been pretty damn good compared to a lot of other people. Its the night life that has killed me.
Time will tell, but there is two things I'm certain of - I'm losing bodyfat, and getting stronger slowly. It takes awhile to get big. I didn't think it would take 7 months of bulking, i planned on 2 years of bulking to get a decently nice body. (it hasn't even been half that time) And not to mention i have strength goals. SO....yeah
Congrats and keep up the good work. I agree that everyone should take EFFORT's and WARBOSS advice. I can safely say that it feels damn good to workout. Yeah there's guys waaaay bigner guys then you and I that workout at my gym but I just have to laugh when they ask me how I'm doing the big 3 in one day along with pull-ups 2 days later. And it's even funnier when they tell me they can't do 1 pull-up.
Again Keep up the good work
Again Keep up the good work
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I-tallionStallion
Master Don Juan
Thank you very much ProDJ26 and Rampage I will be doing a changeup in the near future (although i'm keeping the big three, i am going to add a day spread things out maybe little different. I have to talk to some people first)
MM...there are causes for these things you say. My problem may lie that i am not doing rows correctly. Although i've watched form videos awhile ago, i never had coaching on them. Plus that is the once excerise i have missed here and there for the first 4 months. Until i changed my times, i was missing rows on friday. Which probably set them back. a lot. Which is why there wasn't a large weight increase for the 6 months lifting.
For the chest...okay another problem was with DB press for a couple months. Once I hit 60lbs i couldn't go higher. So i just kept doing that every week for 2-3 months. Thats why I just joined a new gym with DB that go up to 150 lbs.
Alright, so the reasons for what you said, i know why they are lagging. I just joined this gym this week, and i always have a little extra time on Wednesday...so maybe i'll put DB press in again. (Dips should help overall too). I'll continue things as planned for the next couple months. If it doesn't work out and there is no improvement, i'll figure out another way.
I will be doing a changeup in the near future (although i'm keeping the big three, i am going to add a day spread things out maybe little different. I have to talk to some people first)MM...there are causes for these things you say. My problem may lie that i am not doing rows correctly. Although i've watched form videos awhile ago, i never had coaching on them. Plus that is the once excerise i have missed here and there for the first 4 months. Until i changed my times, i was missing rows on friday. Which probably set them back. a lot. Which is why there wasn't a large weight increase for the 6 months lifting.
For the chest...okay another problem was with DB press for a couple months. Once I hit 60lbs i couldn't go higher. So i just kept doing that every week for 2-3 months. Thats why I just joined a new gym with DB that go up to 150 lbs.
Alright, so the reasons for what you said, i know why they are lagging. I just joined this gym this week, and i always have a little extra time on Wednesday...so maybe i'll put DB press in again. (Dips should help overall too). I'll continue things as planned for the next couple months. If it doesn't work out and there is no improvement, i'll figure out another way.
