So those girls got burned from this guy fvcking spree

[Stagger Lee]

Rather than hearing how bitter and jealous WDW is imagined by some to be. Or how it is imagined that WDW's friend's much greater sexual success is because he has more game or that looks matter but yadda yadda game it doesn't matter. Or whatever other assumptions. I be interested in what WDW sees as causing all the attraction his friend gets. WDW is in a much better position to determinate that. There just might be some things you can emulate and adopt, but they might not be what is commonly believed to be important.

 

[Stagger Lee]

If you were a hot chick, would you go out with an ugly guy?

Hell to the no.

So, I don't blame chicks anymore. They are doing what they are supposed to be doing. 95% of beta rage comes from guys going for unattainable women. If you went for someone your own level, you wouldn't be complaining on SOSUAVE every day.

Would that were the case I don't think men would be complaining about hypergamy. If just hot girls rejected ugly guys that would be one thing. But it's more like average and unattractive girls are rejecting average to above average guys. Even women who are not hot, maybe borderline average to unattractive are demanding guys to be quite attractive.

Women are suppose to be young and attractive to have any value. I've known plenty of guys over 6', lean masculine build, fairly handsome, and have decent character, personality etc but it's a struggle for them to attract ANY women. They're just not considered "hot". You're either hot or you're not.

I'd love to attract girls in my league-tall brunette, lean and with a dimorphic face and body. But she is a minimum 6-7 and is only open to hot guys.

 

[corrector]

Would that were the case I don't think men would be complaining about hypergamy. If just hot girls rejected ugly guys that would be one thing. But it's more like average and unattractive girls are rejecting average to above average guys. Even women who are not hot, maybe borderline average to unattractive are demanding guys to be quite attractive.

Women are suppose to be young and attractive to have any value. I've known plenty of guys over 6', lean masculine build, fairly handsome, and have decent character, personality etc but it's a struggle for them to attract ANY women. They're just not considered "hot". You're either hot or you're not.

I'd love to attract girls in my league-tall brunette, lean and with a dimorphic face and body. But she is a minimum 6-7 and is only open to hot guys.

If what you are saying is true then it assumes a few things:

1) That ALL of the couples you see out there is going to be some GQ model looking male with a whale of an ugly girl next to him holding hands.

How many times do I see this in real life? Not very often. If average and ugly women do this then they'll die old maids and never have anyone.

In fact, people will look at the hot guy as though something is wrong with him and wonder why he is going out with "her" and will think there is something wrong with his self-esteem or personality to have to settle for an average to ugly girl rather than go with someone in his own league. They may even wonder if the girl is paying him something.

2) That average or ugly women do not want an LTR or marriage. Average or ugly women aren't going to get a hot guy to marry them because they got plenty of options with other women and many don't believe in marriage period.

I do not see this as realistically reflecting the world out there and just think it's a bit over the deep end. Hypergamy means dating or marriage upwards, not just having sex. Since people are in relationships, dating and marrying in public where guys are not GQ male models dating UG-whales, but I see more people evenly paired as far as their looks are concerned.

Do you think whales, ugly women and average women are going to hold out for their whole lives and remain virgins, or never end up marrying by rejecting prospects who would take them seriously rather than look at them as an easy lay or last resort if they can't get a hot girl?

A hot guy needs to be WITH a hot girl or he'll lose status and people will think he's either wierd or something is wrong with him.

 

[corrector]

Women are suppose to be young and attractive to have any value. I've known plenty of guys over 6', lean masculine build, fairly handsome, and have decent character, personality etc but it's a struggle for them to attract ANY women. They're just not considered "hot". You're either hot or you're not.

Here is where you make allot of sense. Guys here can now save money and time by not going to the gym, getting any personal trainer, or trying to waste any money to improve themselves.

If God did not give you a pretty enough face then no matter what body that face is resting on, whether it is morbidly obese, or whether you are ripped will not make a difference in the world when it comes to attracting women.

So, if you are not facially hot, then just stay away from the GYM. Have a beer gut and flabby muscles since you'll have as much pull even if you are ripped and have muscles. All of this putting on muscles and a lean body is utter BS.

 

[corrector]

Who Dares Win,

It must be a porno flick there with your friend. If you go on the highschool thread, you also see teachers slvtting it out to hot students.

So, what's the deal in this? Is he making it easier to get laid or asking some of the girls that are into him to bend over for you to share the love around (ie assuming they don't want to see you as you are humping them since you are not as pretty as your friend?)

You are seeing women behave like animals with the hot guys, and then see that for average guys, they have to put a ridicolous investment, be it game, self-improvement, or what other BS just to put the foot in the door or have a fighting chance?

It comes down to the suit analogy. If you are an average guy, the suit costs $ 1000. If you are this hot guy, the same suit costs 50 cents.

When an average guy has to send out many emails online for nobody to take them on, or has to do lots of approaches to get any positive response, and a guy like that has women throwing themselves at him whever he goes, then it's like, what's the point?

 

[Stagger Lee]

If what you are saying is true then it assumes a few things:

1) That ALL of the couples you see out there is going to be some GQ model looking male with a whale of an ugly girl next to him holding hands.

How many times do I see this in real life? Not very often. If average and ugly women do this then they'll die old maids and never have anyone.

Why do you assume that and take it to an extreme? Actual couples do tend to more closely looks match. Usually the guy is a little better than the female. The problem is coupled women are not available and many women who are NOT coupling are engaging in ONS and short term sexual encounters with men of higher attractiveness.

What is happening is the M9 GQ model guy can and may have a HB9 GF, but he can also sex up various girls HB8-6. And on down the line it goes to where M6s and below has little left but sub HB5s, UGS and fatties. M6 guy can hope to LTR an HB6 but she has to decide to quit being a sex toy for M7s and up.

If every guy and every girl paired off of course there would be mostly matching, but since males are more sexually available to multiple women, and women want to shoot as high as possible looks, there's not pairing of one-to-one. Do you not realize it's not the 1950's anymore, not even the 70's or 80's?

In fact, people will look at the hot guy as though something is wrong with him and wonder why he is going out with "her" and will think there is something wrong with his self-esteem or personality to have to settle for an average to ugly girl rather than go with someone in his own league. They may even wonder if the girl is paying him something.

Why do you think less attractive girls with attractive guys are dating? They're not dating, they're just fvcking.

2) That average or ugly women do not want an LTR or marriage. Average or ugly women aren't going to get a hot guy to marry them because they got plenty of options with other women and many don't believe in marriage period.

Most all women want a LTR/marriage and could get it any day of the week. But they want it with the guy that every other woman wants and is not available for more than sex. Without wide spread monogamy, the dynamic is men try to monopolize most ALL women, and women all try to monopolize a FEW men. Of course neither can completely succeed in that, but they both facilitate hypergamy to a degree.

I do not see this as realistically reflecting the world out there and just think it's a bit over the deep end. Hypergamy means dating or marriage upwards, not just having sex.

No it doesn't. Or at least we are using two different definitions. Hypergamy means a women is only sexually available to men who are more attractive.

Since people are in relationships, dating and marrying in public where guys are not GQ male models dating UG-whales, but I see more people evenly paired as far as their looks are concerned.

Do you think whales, ugly women and average women are going to hold out for their whole lives and remain virgins, or never end up marrying by rejecting prospects who would take them seriously rather than look at them as an easy lay or last resort if they can't get a hot girl?

A hot guy needs to be WITH a hot girl or he'll lose status and people will think he's either wierd or something is wrong with him.

You are under some false assumption that everyone is being monogamous and in LTR. Most women would be engaged by their 18th birthday if hypergamy wasn't in play. If hypergamy isn't in play, then what's stopping you from getting a looks matched LTR right away?

Men should have and use to have value beyond their physical attractiveness and personality. Women never had and never will have value besides their looks, youth and feminine personality. A man is really being cheated when a woman is lacking in looks, youth and has a feminist personality. You basically redefine hypergamy and deny hypergamy and feminism has real efffects.

 

[floydb25]

The guy has game, or else he would be wifing up these hos not starting a harem.

I know some guys like that who flame out a LOT. Having said that, what scares the fvck out of me is that the 10 guys that are AFC can go online and "dumpster dive" my HB8 gfs. This is why I think online dating is so bad.

Ha Ha! You just described the old me. Tried wifing up, and seeking the approval of every dumb bish who came up to ME. Had no game, knowledge, or self-esteem AT ALL. A lot of these girls were very attractive, and acted as the OP described... for a time. Once you show inferiority, focus on them, etc - you're nothing. Game ****ing over. All interested depleted. No grey area.

These bishes, like I say all time, are OBSESSED with the chase / challenge, status, prize, etc. They go NUTS for in-demand guys who don't give a ****... but only if the guy is "hot". Seriously, they lose their minds with infatuation - then end up damaged and psychotic for the beta nice guys to take over. Does NOT matter if the NG is good looking or not, or even if they approach him as the OP described. You're either alpha and awesome; sex and interest thrown around like no tomorrow... or a beta ***** who gets treated like trash; the scapegoat or back-up. Even if it's the same dude!

Most of it is all perception, but these shallow bishes don't care, or even know the difference. It's definitely a different level playing field with high class bishes. Being decent and "real" gets you NO WHERE with them - which is why the LTR route is a bad, bad idea. You either act as the OP described, or end up like the women he described... by the exact same women! That's how it works in the "game". Do NOT sympathize or show inferiority. Despite complaining 36/7 - they chase after this ****, and act as the same fashion as themselves with "high class" guys vs. beta's. 100%. Double standards and hypocrisy aplenty. They live for this ****. Ergo, there's nothing to sympathize WITH.

To be fair, it works both ways. How many of us acted like sissy doormat bishes for a hot, in-demand chick who treated everyone (including us) like trash? Held onto false hope, became addicted to the challenge, tried to be the special cookie, and so forth.

 

[corrector]

No it doesn't. Or at least we are using two different definitions. Hypergamy means a women is only sexually available to men who are more attractive.

This is wikipedia's definition:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergamy

According to wikipedia, the definition goes against everything you believe in.

First of all, you'd have to subscribe to the SMV theory that the older and wealthier you get, that more women would see you as a provider and want to date you as you'll have better resources. It's usually in the context of marriage (i.e. marrying-up).

You are also free to take another definition where this is suggesting to be about sex. Marriage and LTR also include sex so if you take that, then it's safe to assume if most couples out there are evenly matched in terms of looks, with the male being slightly higher in looks than the female, then it contradicts what you are saying that average or below-average women are only having sex with hot guys (i.e. in marriage and LTRs).

You are under some false assumption that everyone is being monogamous and in LTR. Most women would be engaged by their 18th birthday if hypergamy wasn't in play. If hypergamy isn't in play, then what's stopping you from getting a looks matched LTR right away?

As I said, if you go out of the door you are going to see couples. You have conceded to the point so there is no point to further argue with that.

What is stopping me from getting a looks matched LTR right away? Well, if you've read my journals, I've lost interest in pursuing after women. First of all, I place all sorts of restrictions. They have to be yonge, single, never married, a born-again Christian that can lead spiritually, and unless I'm sure God has sent the women, then it's seen as a waste of time. My life as a whole has different priorities. A woman also has to be compatable and fit into my thought-life or pattern of seeing the world. She has to get inside of me somehow. Most women don't really get inside of me.

The last relationship I had I felt like the girl was part of my "gut", and we shared many common interests together before I dumped her. I am drained by that experience, or satisfied that I no longer envy seeing couples out there.

Instead, when I see couples I see them as either yonge, or old couples. The yonge ones are the missed opportunity of my youth, and the old ones show that they've had a relationship that LASTED over time. Otherwise, knowing that most relationships may end in break-up or divorce, I'm not as envious seeing people coupled up while I"m single as I was before my "relationship" last year.

Men should have and use to have value beyond their physical attractiveness and personality. Women never had and never will have value besides their looks, youth and feminine personality. A man is really being cheated when a woman is lacking in looks, youth and has a feminist personality. You basically redefine hypergamy and deny hypergamy and feminism has real efffects.

No, you are redefining hypergamy based on a fixed definition or use of the term. It doesn't mean women behaving like wannabe porn-actresses because there is a hot dude in the room. These are very low quality women. There are women out there that believe in no-sex until marriage and will not lower themselves. Some women will reject hot guys because they'll think he's a player. So I don't think black and white thinking, or one-size fits all approach is realistic, except if you got butthurt a few too many times.

A woman's value is in whatever connection she has with a man she's seeing. If the woman is attractive enough to a man where the couple doen't stand out like a mis-matched eye-sore in public, and he's taking the lead in the relationship then that make sense. Looks hypergamy with couples will make the guy look like he has some serious flaws that he had to settle with an eye-sore next to him. Economic hypergamy means you have a yonge beauty next to an older guy with thinning hair because of his status, wealth, or the idea that the older a guy gets his sexual value also gets higher.

Again, this is why depending on how you look at hypergamy, your position on this board actually argues against it existing not for it.

That's why of course it's a bad idea to date an older woman who bosses you like a mother. Here she's lacking in youth, feminist personality, and may have some looks, but overall that would be something where I would feel cheated on. One reason you just don't get into an LTR or arrangement with someone because you dont' have anyone.

 

[expos]

If you feel you're ugly then work on your career - make some money.

Even this is losing option. LOL. All it takes is to lose your frame and be beta, or treat your girl like crap and she'll cheat on you with someone better looking. No win situation really - and a lot of really good looking women (especially gold diggers ) are really fvcked up in the head.

 

[Jair213]

sadly this is true.

ive treated bishes how i wanted too in example like comeplete sh1ttt and gotten away with it but this chicks were around the scales of 4-6.. its crazy how looks could impact a power surge through relationships.

i cant seem to get away with the same crap from chicks that are 7+

i'd come to terms that hooking up with woman wround my looks range or a bit below average than me on the looks department is best..

you guys need to land chicks aroound your looks range not way too below nor too above.. be realistic with yourselfs

 

[Stagger Lee]

This is wikipedia's definition:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergamy

According to wikipedia, the definition goes against everything you believe in.

First of all, you'd have to subscribe to the SMV theory that the older and wealthier you get, that more women would see you as a provider and want to date you as you'll have better resources. It's usually in the context of marriage (i.e. marrying-up).

You are also free to take another definition where this is suggesting to be about sex. Marriage and LTR also include sex so if you take that, then it's safe to assume if most couples out there are evenly matched in terms of looks, with the male being slightly higher in looks than the female, then it contradicts what you are saying that average or below-average women are only having sex with hot guys (i.e. in marriage and LTRs).

You are complicating the issue. Wikipedia isn't going to talk about women slvtting it up and being shallow. Here when we talk about hypergamy it's often understood women being only sexually available to more attractive guys.

It's hard to find a girl that wants a LTR unless she dating up. You make it sound like most girls are available and looking LTR/marriage with a decent guy. Most girls are holding out for a time and/or slvtting it up.

As I said, if you go out of the door you are going to see couples. You have conceded to the point so there is no point to further argue with that.

No I don't see couples and dating in their 20's and 30's anymore. I most see people hanging out and hooking up. Even in churches I didn't see couples just hanging out.

What is stopping me from getting a looks matched LTR right away? Well, if you've read my journals, I've lost interest in pursuing after women. First of all, I place all sorts of restrictions. They have to be yonge, single, never married, a born-again Christian that can lead spiritually, and unless I'm sure God has sent the women, then it's seen as a waste of time. My life as a whole has different priorities. A woman also has to be compatable and fit into my thought-life or pattern of seeing the world. She has to get inside of me somehow. Most women don't really get inside of me.

The last relationship I had I felt like the girl was part of my "gut", and we shared many common interests together before I dumped her. I am drained by that experience, or satisfied that I no longer envy seeing couples out there.

Instead, when I see couples I see them as either yonge, or old couples. The yonge ones are the missed opportunity of my youth, and the old ones show that they've had a relationship that LASTED over time. Otherwise, knowing that most relationships may end in break-up or divorce, I'm not as envious seeing people coupled up while I"m single as I was before my "relationship" last year.

I have a different theory. You're older and lacking in looks and no girls attractive or even objectively looks matched are interested. You'd be all for it right now otherwise. They all want to play around with younger, better looking guys.

No, you are redefining hypergamy based on a fixed definition or use of the term. It doesn't mean women behaving like wannabe porn-actresses because there is a hot dude in the room. These are very low quality women. There are women out there that believe in no-sex until marriage and will not lower themselves. Some women will reject hot guys because they'll think he's a player. So I don't think black and white thinking, or one-size fits all approach is realistic, except if you got butthurt a few too many times.

Hypergamy to me means women are only interrested/attracted to guys of higher attractiveness. Actractiveness is primarily determined by looks/appearance. That's what I believe and you can disagree if you want to.

I don't disagree that some women are looking only for a LTR/mariage. they are kind of rare, but females that are like that get locked down before they are 25.

A woman's value is in whatever connection she has with a man she's seeing. If the woman is attractive enough to a man where the couple doen't stand out like a mis-matched eye-sore in public, and he's taking the lead in the relationship then that make sense. Looks hypergamy with couples will make the guy look like he has some serious flaws that he had to settle with an eye-sore next to him. Economic hypergamy means you have a yonge beauty next to an older guy with thinning hair because of his status, wealth, or the idea that the older a guy gets his sexual value also gets higher.

Again, this is why depending on how you look at hypergamy, your position on this board actually argues against it existing not for it.

That's why of course it's a bad idea to date an older woman who bosses you like a mother. Here she's lacking in youth, feminist personality, and may have some looks, but overall that would be something where I would feel cheated on. One reason you just don't get into an LTR or arrangement with someone because you dont' have anyone.

You keep talking about LTRs. Yes, I agree that when a male and female agree to a LTR they usually are at least close in attractiveness. Plenty of men are willing to settle for a girl. I think you are underestimating how infrequent and rare today's women want to settle into a LTR.

 

[Mike32ct]

Most women (and those guys that can score) usually start out with a casual (perhaps drunken) hookup, and it sometimes evolves into a FWB situation out of convenience. Some of these couples eventually get attached after all the sex and become boyfriend and girlfriend. There often isn't a formal dating or courtship per se. I'm not saying I agree with this, but it is very common.

 

[Jair213]

If you were a hot chick, would you go out with an ugly guy?

Hell to the no.

So, I don't blame chicks anymore. They are doing what they are supposed to be doing. 95% of beta rage comes from guys going for unattainable women. If you went for someone your own level, you wouldn't be complaining on SOSUAVE every day.

Yup

 

[corrector]

You are complicating the issue. Wikipedia isn't going to talk about women slvtting it up and being shallow. Here when we talk about hypergamy it's often understood women being only sexually available to more attractive guys.

Which holds the more valid definition? Show me a source to prove your definition of hypergamy?

No I don't see couples and dating in their 20's and 30's anymore. I most see people hanging out and hooking up. Even in churches I didn't see couples just hanging out.

When I bike on my bike trails I see couples allot of the time. Couples biking together, couples walking together, and they are holding hands.

When I go to church I see couples together or people talking to each other.

I am unaware, in my world, of people hooking-up, or even people hanging-out. Again my world is limited to bike riding on trails that would seem to be romantic, doing my career which places me in the path of mostly married couples looking to buy a home or condo, and I see people holding hands or looking for their future spouce at church.

Perhaps your exposure to the world is different from mine which are why our views are drastically differet.

I have a different theory. You're older and lacking in looks and no girls attractive or even objectively looks matched are interested. You'd be all for it right now otherwise. They all want to play around with younger, better looking guys.

I don't think "older" fits into the equation. As I said, except for last year and a few isolated experiences in my past, I don't have any sort of past where I was good wih girls or I would have already been married ages ago.

You had a past, why didn't you get married in that past if women were into your "youthful" looks?

Hypergamy to me means women are only interrested/attracted to guys of higher attractiveness. Actractiveness is primarily determined by looks/appearance. That's what I believe and you can disagree if you want to.

I guess what you define as interest is fleeting as opposed to a committed for life sort of interest. Again, your exposure to the world may be different from mine so I can see how your view of things may be differen from mine.

You keep talking about LTRs. Yes, I agree that when a male and female agree to a LTR they usually are at least close in attractiveness. Plenty of men are willing to settle for a girl. I think you are underestimating how infrequent and rare today's women want to settle into a LTR.

Rarely do I see a mis-matched couple. Again, your exposure may be different. Perhaps the bike trails I choose to go on for execise happen to be romantic venues which tend to attract couples more han usual.

Heck even on the river parallel to my bike trail I see that even the ducks are monogamous and often couple up together! You don't see one mallard taking all the female ducks. They are also evenly paired on looks. A duck is a duck.

 

[foreverAFC]

reading through this thread makes me want to sit in the garage and let the car run for while

 

[Jair213]

reading through this thread makes me want to sit in the garage and let the car run for while

Lol please elaborate.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I agree, an excellent post Who Dares it's a great reminder of the reality most guys are up against when dealing with sluts.

However, I disagree with the point of view that the good looking guy in this story has no game.

Here, let's take a closer look:



then there's



not to mention



oh and let's not forget



Who Dares, sounds to me like your friend knows exactly what he's doing.

I dont believe he has game, I believe they just get infatuated and he simply avoid to screw up, if he was to start working on a girl with average interest which was sh1t testing him he would probably fail.

He naturaly lose interest (as most of us) after banging them so he automaticaly do what comes not because he realize what is going on but simply because some other new girl is keeping him busy.

He simply never had a reason in his life to develop some solid game as much as most hot girls never developed nurturing skills.

For example he has no idea how to chat the bouncers to skip the line or to talk people to get info or advantages, or get a table when the pub is full its always me doing it, those social skills still belong in the game field.

 

[zinc4]

Probably some of you will remember my thread about going out with a good looking wingman, well you definitely have to read whats going on.
Many of you will know already about such things, for others its gonna be the first step to really understand how most women behave.

So this guy is pretty goodlooking about 24, I would say a 8.5/9, about 6 feets tall, dirty blonde hair and dark blue eyes, skinny but toned with "alternative vibes".

Well I can tell you for sure since I saw it with my own eyes, girls give him free light, no sh1t tests not bvllsh1t, he is liked on the spot and despite his serious lack of overall game he scores great.

He is banging girl after girl week after week, some of them not only make it easy for him but are actively trying to push him to go after them, while others dont try out because(their own words) are not cute enough for him, thise girls I saw them rejecting average guys before.

He just pump and dumps girls and doesnt even bother to be nice with them right after, in many cases he treats them as fvck buddies and they are fine with that, thinking in future it may chance.

In particular I can recall this 21yrs old blondie which gets many attention and treat guys as crap, well he banged her many times, insulted even more and treated her as a fvck buddy untill he got tired and no longer talks to her.

An other time he was supposed to give her a lift after the club but didnt bother to do it and chased an other one, the dropped girl still talks to him and even send afc texts like "you confuse me, but i know you like me"...

But that doesnt really matter the abuse girls can take from him, what impress me is how girls behave around him like AFCs around a hottie, those girls humiliate themselves and simply throw themselves at him with no regard of their bodies or reputation...I swear despite my experience with girls I would never imagine that such good looking girls would lower themselves so much, these are the same girls which flake on you, lie, dont pick up the phone or have the "bored attitute" through your date.

I see those girls as spoiled goods, more like a box of open ham in the fridge that someone opened but didnt finish.

Cant deny that I wish it was so good even for me but what really bothers me and should bother you is that those same girls which open their legs to such men and endure humiliation without even being asked, at some point will come broken and damaged to us, its not so much a matter of ego but more of a "keep your eyes open" just like when you buy a used car from salesman.

It sounds like to me his game is pretty damn good......he bangs them until his heart is content and then could care less about them...result it doubles if not triples their desire for him...maybe he doesn't have quite the social skills you possess in general or is quite as outgoing, but he could just be a natural at connecting with women through body language and tonality when he speaks...i have seen it before.....

I do the same thing with my plates and the same outcome occurs....i am sure i am not as good looking as this guy though because i don't have women openly competing for me without me having to do anything.....but IMO you are missing something here from the story...this guy obviously knows what he is doing and doesn't have any kind of problem with neediness...

 

[The Duke]

Well I can tell you for sure since I saw it with my own eyes, girls give him free light, no sh1t tests not bvllsh1t, he is liked on the spot and despite his serious lack of overall game he scores great.

He is banging girl after girl week after week, some of them not only make it easy for him but are actively trying to push him to go after them, while others dont try out because(their own words) are not cute enough for him, thise girls I saw them rejecting average guys before.

He just pump and dumps girls and doesnt even bother to be nice with them right after, in many cases he treats them as fvck buddies and they are fine with that, thinking in future it may chance.

In particular I can recall this 21yrs old blondie which gets many attention and treat guys as crap, well he banged her many times, insulted even more and treated her as a fvck buddy untill he got tired and no longer talks to her.

An other time he was supposed to give her a lift after the club but didnt bother to do it and chased an other one, the dropped girl still talks to him and even send afc texts like "you confuse me, but i know you like me"...

No doubt, looks all play into it. I won't deny that. But there is another thing going on here that this guy does right...........He doesn't put these girls on any sort of pedestal. Come, stay, lay or pray he just doesn't care.

By doing so he portrays that he is THE SCHITT! This turns a light on for all those biatches cuz they all want the guy the other females want. They all know a guy that doesn't need to try to find women is a man in high demand. So they must seek him out.

You will be most successful with women when you stop trying so hard. Just go out there and have a great time with your friends. If some women happen to cross your path then great. If not, who cares. Girls smell "try hard" and "desperation" miles away. My most successful nights out were nights where I didn't care if i talked to some hot girls or not. I was there for myself to have a great time. I wasn't there to find chics.

Compare it to the bad boy vs. nice guy thing. We all know who scores more girls.

Stop trying to make excuses of why you aren't getting what you want. Figure out areas to improve yourself so you can get the results you want.

 

[corrector]

No doubt, looks all play into it. I won't deny that. But there is another thing going on here that this guy does right...........He doesn't put these girls on any sort of pedestal. Come, stay, lay or pray he just doesn't care.

Well if women are all throwing themselves left, right and centre as opposed to being a novelty that's entertained once in a blue moon then of course he's not going to put these girls on a pedestal. It would be too overwhelming if he did that.

By doing so he portrays that he is THE SCHITT! This turns a light on for all those biatches cuz they all want the guy the other females want. They all know a guy that doesn't need to try to find women is a man in high demand. So they must seek him out.

He just has to put himself out there according to the OP. All that he has is good genetics and a pretty boy face. There is nothing about that post that any average guy is going to be able to copy to get the same results.

Of course, if he has looks that kill, and women are chasing him, he is not going to need to try to find any woman.

You will be most successful with women when you stop trying so hard. Just go out there and have a great time with your friends. If some women happen to cross your path then great. If not, who cares. Girls smell "try hard" and "desperation" miles away. My most successful nights out were nights where I didn't care if i talked to some hot girls or not. I was there for myself to have a great time. I wasn't there to find chics.

That's right. If you are an average guy then you'll be trying hard to the same women slvtting themselves up to this model guy here. Why? Because they don't want you, they want him. So you have to play a ridicolous numbers game, or try hard just to get some tail.

It is all a matter of sexual capitall, as Stageer Lee says. If you have enough sexual capital then you are are born with a silver spoon in your mouth as far as women are concerned, then of course you are never going to be "try hard" or "desperate".

It as ridicolous as saying that a rich person with a zillion dollars is not try hard or desperate when applying for a loan at a bank compared to a beggar going into the bank. So, you give advice to the poor person that he's giving off these "try hard" vibes that Bill Gates doesn't give out which is why the banks aren't giving him loans.

People like skinnyguy and foreverAFC and Stageer Lee are going to look at a thread like this and say this is as good as toilet paper. It offers no value to the community other than saying that all women are slvts to the good looking guys, while everyone else has to struggle, look at porn or use escorts. This "good looking" guy's reality is so far out that it would only be able to be achieved by looking at porn to the average guy in fantasy-land on a mental level, or going to some God-forsaken third world country on a sex tour spree with $ 20 000 and start fvcking every women there. If you have a reality like that for a week, anyone who is struggling is going to be in shock. They may have to be admitted to a hospital for shock treatment.

So, how can you elicit anything such as "game" from someone with such a different "world" to the rest of us? Now every girl around may have herpes or some STD contracted by him.

Compare it to the bad boy vs. nice guy thing. We all know who scores more girls.

The guy with good looks who looks like a greek god. If he's a bad boy then he has confidence. If he's a nice guy then he's so charming. If he doesn't have the hot look, the nice guy is a creeper and the bad boy is a jerk to be avoided.

Stop trying to make excuses of why you aren't getting what you want. Figure out areas to improve yourself so you can get the results you want.

Like being born with a hot genetically appealing face and a nice body.
Good luck with that.