So those girls got burned from this guy fvcking spree

[Mike32ct]

Corrector nailed it exactly.

 

[The Duke]

alrighty thats fine guys.......just keep doing what you are doing and keep bittching but may I suggest some of you visit an escort? haha

Here's how I see it.......you need a combination of things to get girls in a bar scene. One single thing alone will carry the day. The more of these things you have, the greater your chances of success with women:

-physical attributes(looks, body, face, hair, etc)
-charm
-extroverted
-game
-good stories
-social skills
-dance skills
-opening skills
-funny
-good first impression skills
-dress attire

I see the majority of this country that likes to sit on their a$$ and bitsch instead of looking themselves in the mirror and doing something about it. Its easier to point the finger at something you can't do much about than get out of your fuhking comfort zone and admit your suck and do something about it.

When I first started out in this game after my divorce several years ago I couldn't get the girls I wanted. I could bag 6's and 7's all day long. But I wanted 8's, 9's, 10's. So guess what???? I took a long hard look at myself, read all I could and made a bunch of changes. I was going out 2-3 nights a week honing my skills. I got shot down and rejected so many times but learned to laugh it off. Over time you learned which girls to approach and the ones who were a waste of time.

I dressed nicer and paid attention to the details.....women took notice and started opening me. Wore form fitting shirts. I started accessorizing with necklaces, wrist bands, watches, etc and it all made a difference.

I got in the gym and toned up.....women noticed.

I got over my fears of dancing and took country dance lessons.......had a blast dancing with 100's of different girls.......developed relationships with some......the best night ever was when I danced with 10 different auto show models that showed up. All 10 of them were hot.

I became more social. Made it a point to be approachable and strike up a conversation with anybody.

I had some pretty good stories that I perfected and I'd end up using. Girls loved it.

Also started riding motorcycles. Girls just happen to love bikes. Its got the adventure, macho-ness, and hint of danger that they all crave. Plus its something different. All you have to do is walk into a sports bar wearing your riding jacket with helmet in hand and wait for the girls to ask for rides.

I have a serious hobby that girls find attractive. That helps a bunch.

Guess what I'm not ripped, hot, tall, rich, head full of hair, or any of that. But I figured out a way to get what I wanted.

You can be the problem or the solution......take your pick.

 

[Solomon]

alrighty thats fine guys.......just keep doing what you are doing and keep bittching but may I suggest some of you visit an escort? haha

Here's how I see it.......you need a combination of things to get girls in a bar scene. One single thing alone will carry the day. The more of these things you have, the greater your chances of success with women:

-physical attributes(looks, body, face, hair, etc)
-charm
-extroverted
-game
-good stories
-social skills
-dance skills
-opening skills
-funny
-good first impression skills
-dress attire

I see the majority of this country that likes to sit on their a$$ and bitsch instead of looking themselves in the mirror and doing something about it. Its easier to point the finger at something you can't do much about than get out of your fuhking comfort zone and admit your suck and do something about it.

When I first started out in this game after my divorce several years ago I couldn't get the girls I wanted. I could bag 6's and 7's all day long. But I wanted 8's, 9's, 10's. So guess what???? I took a long hard look at myself, read all I could and made a bunch of changes. I was going out 2-3 nights a week honing my skills. I got shot down and rejected so many times but learned to laugh it off. Over time you learned which girls to approach and the ones who were a waste of time.

I dressed nicer and paid attention to the details.....women took notice and started opening me. Wore form fitting shirts. I started accessorizing with necklaces, wrist bands, watches, etc and it all made a difference.

I got in the gym and toned up.....women noticed.

I got over my fears of dancing and took country dance lessons.......had a blast dancing with 100's of different girls.......developed relationships with some......the best night ever was when I danced with 10 different auto show models that showed up. All 10 of them were hot.

I became more social. Made it a point to be approachable and strike up a conversation with anybody.

I had some pretty good stories that I perfected and I'd end up using. Girls loved it.

Also started riding motorcycles. Girls just happen to love bikes. Its got the adventure, macho-ness, and hint of danger that they all crave. Plus its something different. All you have to do is walk into a sports bar wearing your riding jacket with helmet in hand and wait for the girls to ask for rides.

I have a serious hobby that girls find attractive. That helps a bunch.

Guess what I'm not ripped, hot, tall, rich, head full of hair, or any of that. But I figured out a way to get what I wanted.

You can be the problem or the solution......take your pick.

REPPED

this is the truth, and similar to my experince before I got fat again but this man is speaking da fauccing truth

 

[Jair213]

alrighty thats fine guys.......just keep doing what you are doing and keep bittching but may I suggest some of you visit an escort? haha

Here's how I see it.......you need a combination of things to get girls in a bar scene. One single thing alone will carry the day. The more of these things you have, the greater your chances of success with women:

-physical attributes(looks, body, face, hair, etc)
-charm
-extroverted
-game
-good stories
-social skills
-dance skills
-opening skills
-funny
-good first impression skills
-dress attire

I see the majority of this country that likes to sit on their a$$ and bitsch instead of looking themselves in the mirror and doing something about it. Its easier to point the finger at something you can't do much about than get out of your fuhking comfort zone and admit your suck and do something about it.

When I first started out in this game after my divorce several years ago I couldn't get the girls I wanted. I could bag 6's and 7's all day long. But I wanted 8's, 9's, 10's. So guess what???? I took a long hard look at myself, read all I could and made a bunch of changes. I was going out 2-3 nights a week honing my skills. I got shot down and rejected so many times but learned to laugh it off. Over time you learned which girls to approach and the ones who were a waste of time.

I dressed nicer and paid attention to the details.....women took notice and started opening me. Wore form fitting shirts. I started accessorizing with necklaces, wrist bands, watches, etc and it all made a difference.

I got in the gym and toned up.....women noticed.

I got over my fears of dancing and took country dance lessons.......had a blast dancing with 100's of different girls.......developed relationships with some......the best night ever was when I danced with 10 different auto show models that showed up. All 10 of them were hot.

I became more social. Made it a point to be approachable and strike up a conversation with anybody.

I had some pretty good stories that I perfected and I'd end up using. Girls loved it.

Also started riding motorcycles. Girls just happen to love bikes. Its got the adventure, macho-ness, and hint of danger that they all crave. Plus its something different. All you have to do is walk into a sports bar wearing your riding jacket with helmet in hand and wait for the girls to ask for rides.

I have a serious hobby that girls find attractive. That helps a bunch.

Guess what I'm not ripped, hot, tall, rich, head full of hair, or any of that. But I figured out a way to get what I wanted.

You can be the problem or the solution......take your pick.

repped

this type of improvement might not get you the hottest girls hb 9's or 10's even 8's but not all girls are the same and that shallow like others some girls do notice stuff like this and it atracts them depends on the chick.

congratulations on your improvement and moving on from your divorce.

i salute you.

those that are average looking and improve there lifes like this dude did might not get the same results

most of the dudes that wined about why would they try to improve when it aint gonna work cuz of there looks are just probably just some lazy fvcks being a couch potato all day with no ounce of motivation.

if you are super fvcken butt dead ass ULGY it might not work but if your average or above looking the possiblities of it of working are high as fvck.
but i doubt anybody here is ugly ass sh!t unless your terribly DEFORM!

so work on your selfs but most importantly do it for you and only you the other sh!t that comes with it treat it as a bonus.(girls, etc)
when i got into bodybuilding it made a huge difference for me. so yall dont come with that petty bvllsh!tt
bodybuilding has not only change my mind set of life but it has helped me endure a bullet proof mentality that anything is possible.
KAI GREENE and ZYZZ have being a huge motivation for me through this process.

"I am a believer, I am believer that we shape and create the life that we choose, and I believe that the tool that we have to do that, is our mind." - Kai Greene

''i dont workout for chicks, i workout to create an aura. when i walk into a room, introduce myself to someone, go for a job interview, i love looking dominant, in charge, and in control'' - Zyzz

 

[Who Dares Win]

Well if women are all throwing themselves left, right and centre as opposed to being a novelty that's entertained once in a blue moon then of course he's not going to put these girls on a pedestal. It would be too overwhelming if he did that.



He just has to put himself out there according to the OP. All that he has is good genetics and a pretty boy face. There is nothing about that post that any average guy is going to be able to copy to get the same results.

Of course, if he has looks that kill, and women are chasing him, he is not going to need to try to find any woman.



That's right. If you are an average guy then you'll be trying hard to the same women slvtting themselves up to this model guy here. Why? Because they don't want you, they want him. So you have to play a ridicolous numbers game, or try hard just to get some tail.

It is all a matter of sexual capitall, as Stageer Lee says. If you have enough sexual capital then you are are born with a silver spoon in your mouth as far as women are concerned, then of course you are never going to be "try hard" or "desperate".

It as ridicolous as saying that a rich person with a zillion dollars is not try hard or desperate when applying for a loan at a bank compared to a beggar going into the bank. So, you give advice to the poor person that he's giving off these "try hard" vibes that Bill Gates doesn't give out which is why the banks aren't giving him loans.

People like skinnyguy and foreverAFC and Stageer Lee are going to look at a thread like this and say this is as good as toilet paper. It offers no value to the community other than saying that all women are slvts to the good looking guys, while everyone else has to struggle, look at porn or use escorts. This "good looking" guy's reality is so far out that it would only be able to be achieved by looking at porn to the average guy in fantasy-land on a mental level, or going to some God-forsaken third world country on a sex tour spree with $ 20 000 and start fvcking every women there. If you have a reality like that for a week, anyone who is struggling is going to be in shock. They may have to be admitted to a hospital for shock treatment.

So, how can you elicit anything such as "game" from someone with such a different "world" to the rest of us? Now every girl around may have herpes or some STD contracted by him.



The guy with good looks who looks like a greek god. If he's a bad boy then he has confidence. If he's a nice guy then he's so charming. If he doesn't have the hot look, the nice guy is a creeper and the bad boy is a jerk to be avoided.



Like being born with a hot genetically appealing face and a nice body.
Good luck with that.

A goddamn mouth full of fresh hair, glad someone nailed it.

 

[Jair213]

Well if women are all throwing themselves left, right and centre as opposed to being a novelty that's entertained once in a blue moon then of course he's not going to put these girls on a pedestal. It would be too overwhelming if he did that.



He just has to put himself out there according to the OP. All that he has is good genetics and a pretty boy face. There is nothing about that post that any average guy is going to be able to copy to get the same results.

Of course, if he has looks that kill, and women are chasing him, he is not going to need to try to find any woman.



That's right. If you are an average guy then you'll be trying hard to the same women slvtting themselves up to this model guy here. Why? Because they don't want you, they want him. So you have to play a ridicolous numbers game, or try hard just to get some tail.

It is all a matter of sexual capitall, as Stageer Lee says. If you have enough sexual capital then you are are born with a silver spoon in your mouth as far as women are concerned, then of course you are never going to be "try hard" or "desperate".

It as ridicolous as saying that a rich person with a zillion dollars is not try hard or desperate when applying for a loan at a bank compared to a beggar going into the bank. So, you give advice to the poor person that he's giving off these "try hard" vibes that Bill Gates doesn't give out which is why the banks aren't giving him loans.

People like skinnyguy and foreverAFC and Stageer Lee are going to look at a thread like this and say this is as good as toilet paper. It offers no value to the community other than saying that all women are slvts to the good looking guys, while everyone else has to struggle, look at porn or use escorts. This "good looking" guy's reality is so far out that it would only be able to be achieved by looking at porn to the average guy in fantasy-land on a mental level, or going to some God-forsaken third world country on a sex tour spree with $ 20 000 and start fvcking every women there. If you have a reality like that for a week, anyone who is struggling is going to be in shock. They may have to be admitted to a hospital for shock treatment.

So, how can you elicit anything such as "game" from someone with such a different "world" to the rest of us? Now every girl around may have herpes or some STD contracted by him.



The guy with good looks who looks like a greek god. If he's a bad boy then he has confidence. If he's a nice guy then he's so charming. If he doesn't have the hot look, the nice guy is a creeper and the bad boy is a jerk to be avoided.



Like being born with a hot genetically appealing face and a nice body.
Good luck with that.

lol unless the dude is damn ugly then yeah i gree with you a bit here.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Well if women are all throwing themselves left, right and centre as opposed to being a novelty that's entertained once in a blue moon then of course he's not going to put these girls on a pedestal. It would be too overwhelming if he did that.



He just has to put himself out there according to the OP. All that he has is good genetics and a pretty boy face. There is nothing about that post that any average guy is going to be able to copy to get the same results.

Of course, if he has looks that kill, and women are chasing him, he is not going to need to try to find any woman.



That's right. If you are an average guy then you'll be trying hard to the same women slvtting themselves up to this model guy here. Why? Because they don't want you, they want him. So you have to play a ridicolous numbers game, or try hard just to get some tail.

It is all a matter of sexual capitall, as Stageer Lee says. If you have enough sexual capital then you are are born with a silver spoon in your mouth as far as women are concerned, then of course you are never going to be "try hard" or "desperate".

It as ridicolous as saying that a rich person with a zillion dollars is not try hard or desperate when applying for a loan at a bank compared to a beggar going into the bank. So, you give advice to the poor person that he's giving off these "try hard" vibes that Bill Gates doesn't give out which is why the banks aren't giving him loans.

People like skinnyguy and foreverAFC and Stageer Lee are going to look at a thread like this and say this is as good as toilet paper. It offers no value to the community other than saying that all women are slvts to the good looking guys, while everyone else has to struggle, look at porn or use escorts. This "good looking" guy's reality is so far out that it would only be able to be achieved by looking at porn to the average guy in fantasy-land on a mental level, or going to some God-forsaken third world country on a sex tour spree with $ 20 000 and start fvcking every women there. If you have a reality like that for a week, anyone who is struggling is going to be in shock. They may have to be admitted to a hospital for shock treatment.

So, how can you elicit anything such as "game" from someone with such a different "world" to the rest of us? Now every girl around may have herpes or some STD contracted by him.



The guy with good looks who looks like a greek god. If he's a bad boy then he has confidence. If he's a nice guy then he's so charming. If he doesn't have the hot look, the nice guy is a creeper and the bad boy is a jerk to be avoided.



Like being born with a hot genetically appealing face and a nice body.
Good luck with that.

Exactly. A guy doesn't really need game, a ripped body, 6'+ height and or xyz. He just primarily needs an good looking face which causes attraction in females and ride that attraction right to bed. If your face is non attracting (and that doesn't mean it has to be any where near ugly) can you compensate with other things? I think to a very limited degree.

I don't always agree with Correcter, but when I do I drink Dos Equis.

 

[zekko]

despite his serious lack of overall game he scores great.

Sounds like your buddy has what they call "natural game". Women throw themselves at him so he automatically has developed an abundance mentality. He also does not have outcome dependence, for the same reason. This also has resulted in him avoiding pedestalizing or supplicating. I'd say he has all the game he needs.

Also, I bet he has some sort of charismatic personality (naturally) that attracts these girls, aside from looks. I would say personality is a big part of "game".

-physical attributes(looks, body, face, hair, etc)
-charm
-extroverted

Good post, Howiestern.

This is a very minor quibble, but I wish guys would use the term "outgoing" instead of "extroverted". I see "extroverted" to be more of a personality type, whereas anyone (even introverts) can learn to be outgoing.

I dressed nicer and paid attention to the details.....women took notice and started opening me. Wore form fitting shirts. I started accessorizing with necklaces, wrist bands, watches, etc and it all made a difference.

This comment on accessories is something I found interesting. This is something I haven't experimented with, at least not in many years. It does seem like these little details would be something that women would notice and perhaps comment on - peacocking theory aside.

I remember some guys here saying that "The only jewelry a man should wear is a watch" however. So I'd be interested in other poster's experiences.

 

[Who Dares Win]

See, the issue is that you are responding to his thread thinking he is b1tching.....meanwhile you missed the very last sentence in the original post.



He is saying to just watch what you purchase, because you may think she is a good girl but chances are high she was slinging her poon left and right at the top guys.

Thanks again for make it clear Danger, as you correctly said there was no b1tching in my first post, it was more like a warning coming from a direct observation from a widespread human phenomenon.

It seems the new form of bragging here doesnt come anymore about listing how many girls one have, but from posing as a stereotypical PUA which repeats as a parrott to hit the gym,buy new clothes and BE more "self confident" as if someone could chance his face at the gym or simply skip that system of feedbacks and reactions which is responsible of self confidence.

I believe before doing anything its necessary to know how things are going, the guys which point out of the marriage field is a like a mine field are not b1tching are simply acknowledging a fact and act accordingly for example.

 

[BeDJ]

Thanks again for make it clear Danger, as you correctly said there was no b1tching in my first post, it was more like a warning coming from a direct observation from a widespread human phenomenon.

It seems the new form of bragging here doesnt come anymore about listing how many girls one have, but from posing as a stereotypical PUA which repeats as a parrott to hit the gym,buy new clothes and BE more "self confident" as if someone could chance his face at the gym or simply skip that system of feedbacks and reactions which is responsible of self confidence.

I believe before doing anything its necessary to know how things are going, the guys which point out of the marriage field is a like a mine field are not b1tching are simply acknowledging a fact and act accordingly for example.

If your initial post was so, it's beating a dead horse. Marriage is a fool's errand, women have options, she will fvck the big better deal, ETC lol.

We know that. The language you used gives the readers that you are butthurt over the this 'revalation' you have had. Most women are damaged goods, and for a 'prominent member' of this board to neg rep me for my post speaks volumes on the contrasting ideas.

Pursuing a long lasting relationship is a fool's errand. All western women are good for is the slit between their legs, that's their only bargaining power and they will use that you extrapolate the best man they can find - REGARDLESS of Alpha or Beta. They will submit to the BEST they can perceive. That is their own rationalization. Why not GIVE them the perception that you are making 500K+ a year, why not GIVE them a reason to believe you have other attractive women on speed dial.....

At the end of the day, you will fvck them even if you are working at a gas station being an absolute loner. Stop giving women more credit than they deserve. They are gullible, insecure and have vagin[ass].

OH! YOU THINK WE ARE BITTER!!!! Nice try, we don't think so. It's the last attempt to shame men that have intentions of shaming. Who Dares Wins' original post was a rant, regardless of the last sentence or what his message was.

 

[Who Dares Win]

If your initial post was so, it's beating a dead horse. Marriage is a fool's errand, women have options, she will fvck the big better deal, ETC lol.

We know that. The language you used gives the readers that you are butthurt over the this 'revalation' you have had. Most women are damaged goods, and for a 'prominent member' of this board to neg rep me for my post speaks volumes on the contrasting ideas.

Pursuing a long lasting relationship is a fool's errand. All western women are good for is the slit between their legs, that's their only bargaining power and they will use that you extrapolate the best man they can find - REGARDLESS of Alpha or Beta. They will submit to the BEST they can perceive. That is their own rationalization. Why not GIVE them the perception that you are making 500K+ a year, why not GIVE them a reason to believe you have other attractive women on speed dial.....

At the end of the day, you will fvck them even if you are working at a gas station being an absolute loner. Stop giving women more credit than they deserve. They are gullible, insecure and have vagin[ass].

OH! YOU THINK WE ARE BITTER!!!! Nice try, we don't think so. It's the last attempt to shame men that have intentions of shaming. Who Dares Wins' original post was a rant, regardless of the last sentence or what his message was.

1)never did that, I disagreed from the beginning with your vision but never neg repped you (thats what I got from your line, let me know if you meant otherwise), nor Im responsible for deleted posts (one of mine was deleted from mods as well by mistake), btw according to your measure that would sound as "b1tching"...

2)I made clear from the beginning how I felt, more like a programmer which noticed a bug and pointed it out and many users got it, some posers didnt and probably didnt even read till the end.

3)Honestly I dont believe spambots are necessary in this board, we got the memo about hitting the gym,buy new clothes,dont be bitter,dont be beta and all that other stuff that guys "who got it" feel the need to parrott around.

I envy guys which have this fairy tale vision of life where they can do something and climb the hill but strongly disagree, if you're danny devito style bald and fat there's no sh1t you can do to have girls genuinely be attracted from you, sure money and fame but they dont touch themselves thinking about you under the shower thats a fact.

I don't think anyone in particular is bitter nor I said that, the shaming is not my way but someone else here altought indirect, shaming here is useless as spambots sincerly.

Last thing, you first say not to pedelize women with which I agree, then you come out with suggestions which require a hercules effort work only to score women? "give them the impression"...who am I the architect from the matrix or a scam artist come on' man...

Anyway disclaimer for all:
"I dont believe anyone here has something wrong in him, I may disagree with his opinion but I can assure 100% that I dont know any so its highly moronic to give personal opinions about the man himself"

 

[BeDJ]

Oh.

 

[Jitterbug]

as if someone could chance his face at the gym

Yes you can, more than you know. Lower body fat and higher testosterone level make one's face more attractive. In contrast, high body fat and low test / high cortisol (the stress hormone) makes the face ugly. There's plenty of research to back that up too.

Your friend has solid game, whether you recognise it or not.

Here's a little anecdote from me yesterday. I was at the gym and between sets, decided to do some approaches. I talked to two fit slim girls, one redhead, one brunette. I assumed familiarity, teased them, got them to ask me for lifting advice, generally talked down to them (in a fun way) as if I'm their coach. I'm only 5'7", asian (with some mix), fit muscular physique, and I'm often called handsome by girls. Although when I was fat, I never got even looked at! My looks don't really get me in the door by itself, but it's not a handicap either.

Same two girls got approached by a tall 6'2" white guy, good looking with a physique like a 300 actor. I'm not bad look-wise, but this guy blows me out of the water. Redhead snubbed him completely (pretended she didn't hear him and continued with her workout), and brunette talked down to him with him very eager to please and compliment her.

I had a solid interaction with redhead (later on she stopped her bike machine to talk to me when I walked by - on purpose, of course ) that will set me up for more escalation next time. Brunette asked me to go grab some coffee (her treat) post-gym, told me many personal things, exchanged numbers and we're going on a date tonight.

Yeah I think I'm a little bit ahead of the tall fella here...

IF he had some Game though, he would be the one going out with them and I'll be approaching other girls that he hasn't paid attention to, but hey what are the odds that another guy has decent Game? Very low. You can always stay positive and back yourself. How many guys have I run into who are like WDW's goodlooking friend? Three, and I know many many guys. I'm glad they can only fvck so many girls... and strangely not every girl is into them either.

How did I get here? Gym, better diet, better care of my health, smarter wardrobe, game. Am I doing as well as WDW's friend with chicks throwing themselves at me? No, nowhere close, but I get my fair share when I approach. And I'm happy with that, with more to come when I accumulate even more values.

It is retarded to think that you can BE like some super high value guy with women (because life ain't fair and we start at very different levels), just with your regular self-improvements (barring fame and wealth), but you sure can do way better than where you are at, and that's what we're all after, right? Plenty of guys half arse their gym effort, wardrobe and the likes, and think they deserve to win big. Well, if you're not winning big with women, work harder and smarter.

As for WDW's message, yeah I get the idea: you don't LTR or wife up an Alpha Widow or a chick that let herself be used and abused by some super value guy. Strangely the usual suspects gather here and immediately borrow that to justify their self defeating mindset...

 

[floydb25]

Jitterbug: ****ing WORD. Even walking, running, bicycling, or playing sports. Being in the sun helps, too, and makes your skin look better. Used to play a lot of basketball and go for distant walks, and looked f'n awesome. Chicks went bezerk for those short few years.

There's a WORLD of difference when you're inactive, eat like ****, don't leave the house, etc, and it shows everywhere. You will NOT have a well-shaped face if you got chunk laying around. It's your entire body - not just the stomach. Plus you become more social and feel better. There's no reason to be out of shape and not exercise.

I hit a major depression a few years ago up until just now, and it was bad. Felt like ****, ate like ****, treated myself like ****, and looked like ****. Don't even like posting or taking pics, because it's SO far off from where I used to be. It's all "potential" now - nothing current. F that.

When you KNOW what your maximum potential is - and you're no where near it - it makes you feel ****ty. You know you're not meant to be like this, and can do a LOT better. Good motivation, though. Same with anything, really. ****ty friends, dumb b!tches, crap-ass job... no need for any of that. Gotta be improving and excelling.

 

[Jaylan]

As a good looking guy I've realised I have it easy.

Every time I go out to clubs I manage to kiss random women with relative ease.

OP just be prepared to settle for used up women like a lot of members here have.

Kissing is nothing. Im average looking and had that kind of success in college.

Now, when you start fvking with ease, get back to us.