So much hate for women on this site :(

[Atom Smasher]

About once a month we have these threads where young men repeat what they heard about women from feminists. Men, we must patiently explain to them how wrong they are. Women are nothing like men.

-- Women's brains are hard-wired to be emotional and link to a limited area when venting. Men's brains are hard-wired to be logical and link to many memories/abilities when solving problems.

-- Girls stop developing mentally as soon as they start developing breasts and, from then on, experience permanent success at getting pleasant attention. This means that, in developed countries, women are stuck at mentally being 13-year-olds for the rest of their lives. Boys, on the other hand, continue to develop gradually, over a very long time. They aren't fully physically mature until in their mid-20s, and not fully mentally mature until about 30. Thus, young men are toughened up and seasoned by the long maturational experience.

-- This means that most women never develop the normal adult ability to empathize. They pass through life in childish ignorance of the true meanings of honesty, loyalty, fidelity, bravery, steadfastness, honor, respect, dignity, charity, compassion, and all those other intangibles that we associate with one word: manhood.

-- To function normally, women's brains depend on a monthly cycle of shifting imbalances of several hormones. Without the ability to empathize, women cannot see things from the point of view of the men in their lives. Women see things only as they experience them. So to women, it's everybody else who makes them feel bad or good. Very few women ever realize that it's them who are tilting up and down on the month-long roller coaster ride. Those who get it -- still can do nothing to stop the wild gyrations in their emotional states.

-- When men are in their 30s and 40s, they're in the prime of life. If they stay active, most men stay robust into old age. Women, on the other hand, falter hormonally, emotionally, and sexually. Once they lose the ability to have children, women are valuable only inasmuch as they serve their families. But they become psychologically unhinged by menopause and push away their husbands and alienate their children. Women continue on a path of increased isolation as men of similar age die at a higher rate.

-- Normal women, who did not go through precocious puberty, develop the ability to pair bond and to nurture children. Early bloomers, on the other hand, are damaged merchandise. They bond to men and children only in as much as oxytoctin and other bonding hormones get released and bind to their chemical receptors (such as during orgasm or breastfeeding). Or they fake bonding out of backhanded selfishness, such as evading loneliness. Meanwhile, almost all men develop the emotional ability to fall in love and pair bond.

-- As the whole world becomes developed, this situation worms its way into every aspect of society and culture. Men feel sympathy for women. Women feel contempt for men. Each man wants to devote himself to a woman. Each woman wants every man in the world to devote themselves to her. To men, it's an impossible inequality that cannot go on. To women, it's just another day.

Young men, women are nothing like you. They are inferior in every way. They are the weaker sex. It is your duty to protect them and to keep them from harming themselves. But it is never your duty to sit there and be physically and/or emotionally beaten up day after day. You can't protect them if you don't protect yourself. And you can't protect them if you surrender all your rights and possessions and wits to them (to weakly wield and to foolishly squander).

Stop singing the self-deprecating song that "I'm the same as a woman." You're not. You're their superior in every way. It's not "hatred" to say so -- any more than it's "discrimination" to say that you're superior to a chimpanzee.

This is probabaly the most brilliant post I've read on this forum in years. It is a perfect encapsulation of the current dynamic.

It is so true, so perfect that it went over most of your heads.

If every man understood the truths revealed in this post, natural balance would start to occur and men would take their rightful place of authority and responsibility back.

Guys, THIS is the antidote to your feminized education. This is a look outside the artificial set you were brought up in, Truman.

Need I say, +1?

 

[Purefilth]

Men are genetically superior.

Its not hate - Its just fact. Our only weakness is we like boobies

 

[Kbomb]

About once a month we have these threads where young men repeat what they heard about women from feminists. Men, we must patiently explain to them how wrong they are. Women are nothing like men.

-- Women's brains are hard-wired to be emotional and link to a limited area when venting. Men's brains are hard-wired to be logical and link to many memories/abilities when solving problems.

-- Girls stop developing mentally as soon as they start developing breasts and, from then on, experience permanent success at getting pleasant attention. This means that, in developed countries, women are stuck at mentally being 13-year-olds for the rest of their lives. Boys, on the other hand, continue to develop gradually, over a very long time. They aren't fully physically mature until in their mid-20s, and not fully mentally mature until about 30. Thus, young men are toughened up and seasoned by the long maturational experience.

-- This means that most women never develop the normal adult ability to empathize. They pass through life in childish ignorance of the true meanings of honesty, loyalty, fidelity, bravery, steadfastness, honor, respect, dignity, charity, compassion, and all those other intangibles that we associate with one word: manhood.

-- To function normally, women's brains depend on a monthly cycle of shifting imbalances of several hormones. Without the ability to empathize, women cannot see things from the point of view of the men in their lives. Women see things only as they experience them. So to women, it's everybody else who makes them feel bad or good. Very few women ever realize that it's them who are tilting up and down on the month-long roller coaster ride. Those who get it -- still can do nothing to stop the wild gyrations in their emotional states.

-- When men are in their 30s and 40s, they're in the prime of life. If they stay active, most men stay robust into old age. Women, on the other hand, falter hormonally, emotionally, and sexually. Once they lose the ability to have children, women are valuable only inasmuch as they serve their families. But they become psychologically unhinged by menopause and push away their husbands and alienate their children. Women continue on a path of increased isolation as men of similar age die at a higher rate.

-- Normal women, who did not go through precocious puberty, develop the ability to pair bond and to nurture children. Early bloomers, on the other hand, are damaged merchandise. They bond to men and children only in as much as oxytoctin and other bonding hormones get released and bind to their chemical receptors (such as during orgasm or breastfeeding). Or they fake bonding out of backhanded selfishness, such as evading loneliness. Meanwhile, almost all men develop the emotional ability to fall in love and pair bond.

-- As the whole world becomes developed, this situation worms its way into every aspect of society and culture. Men feel sympathy for women. Women feel contempt for men. Each man wants to devote himself to a woman. Each woman wants every man in the world to devote themselves to her. To men, it's an impossible inequality that cannot go on. To women, it's just another day.

Young men, women are nothing like you. They are inferior in every way. They are the weaker sex. It is your duty to protect them and to keep them from harming themselves. But it is never your duty to sit there and be physically and/or emotionally beaten up day after day. You can't protect them if you don't protect yourself. And you can't protect them if you surrender all your rights and possessions and wits to them (to weakly wield and to foolishly squander).

Stop singing the self-deprecating song that "I'm the same as a woman." You're not. You're their superior in every way. It's not "hatred" to say so -- any more than it's "discrimination" to say that you're superior to a chimpanzee.

So what your really saying is that your mother is a chimpanzee?

 

[djgirl]

Well every one these days has to work if you want to survive in this world whether your male or female unless your truly blessed with money that you dont need to, however even if i were with a man who worked and made loads of money that didnt need me to get a job, id still go out and find a job because technically that money is his not mine and i havent earnt it to spend it...

So having said that if women dont want to do "housewife" duties then they shouldnt have to. Were not robots you know, we have lives too. But yeah good luck finding an old fashioned chick who will do things that women in the 50s used to do...take it from me, they dont exist anymore!! very rare. This isnt a bad thing, women have woken up and taken a stand and so we should, were not some sex object, house wife only born to be slaves to men...ha i dont think so...and thankgod for that.

And to the other poster who said that women do work well in business, politics etc well my country is run by a woman and were not doing that bad compared to the rest of the world. Some women can use logic over emotion

 

[marmel75]

Well every one these days has to work if you want to survive in this world whether your male or female unless your truly blessed with money that you dont need to, however even if i were with a man who worked and made loads of money that didnt need me to get a job, id still go out and find a job because technically that money is his not mine and i havent earnt it to spend it...

So having said that if women dont want to do "housewife" duties then they shouldnt have to. Were not robots you know, we have lives too. But yeah good luck finding an old fashioned chick who will do things that women in the 50s used to do...take it from me, they dont exist anymore!! very rare. This isnt a bad thing, women have woken up and taken a stand and so we should, were not some sex object, house wife only born to be slaves to men...ha i dont think so...and thankgod for that.

And to the other poster who said that women do work well in business, politics etc well my country is run by a woman and were not doing that bad compared to the rest of the world. Some women can use logic over emotion

So if all this is true then I suppose you agree that men getting bent over the barrel and screwed in court upon divorce is wrong also? Or is it cool we get stuck in a grossly unfair justice system that clearly favors the woman in virtually all instances. Of course you probably see nothing wrong it as the typical woman expects to have her cake and eat it too...

 

[Leopold]

I find it ironic how woman get options.

They are given the option by society they could grow up and not work and just be housewifes.

I wish I could say... "when I grow up, I want to be a househusband."

Women in general have no idea the amount of responsibility and demands a man bears or is expected to meet.

Given that, this "women's movement" isn't peeling the pineapple for us. It's making our jobs even harder, our competition even bigger and most basic of all... its hurting the feminine. (no I'm not going to bother to state facts or examples since have been given numerous times by other posts).

I have to say this (its not 100% accurate and there are exceptions). Most women don't know what they want or what's good for them.

I actually sympathize with most feminisst actually. I had meet a few of them and I cant help to think that most of them bear huge scars during their childhood because of their fathers weren't real men and were horrible. Also lots I strangely noticed lack on sexual appeal so I'm thinking they were very rejected by both parties during their school years. I'm not one so I really cant say much but that's how I think most of their hate is born from.

Sadly, I have lost hope that men will truly take back what's theirs. There's too much influence on the media and there's not enough awareness.

I think they key is using Darwin's Natural Selection. Our world is changing and we must evolve and adapt to our new environments. Women (and men who are trying to think like them) are truly taking over the world.

I was taken advantage of pretty much all my life through my peers (specially women). This is sadly the world we live in and even tho we must appreciate it and keep on living because live is truly a beautiful thing. I will live taking advantage of people and taking away what i want. I'll keep improving myself always.

I see myself in the near future as gigolo or as a gold digger. It's not really what I had in mind I wanted to be in life but I think it will be what's most beneficial for my persona.

 

[Poonani Maker]

But yeah good luck finding an old fashioned chick who will do things that women in the 50s used to do...take it from me, they dont exist anymore!! very rare.

Any man worth his salt anymore, and isn't a suck-up pvssy-whipped foo, WILL find a woman of lore...of before. It may take Massive effort on his part to seek her out, and all-the-while discarding girls like you (I've been with a few bi girls..the least favorite attitudes I've dealt with, and the least loving in the end in my experience) who bring nothing of value to a man's life, just a regression and muddled waters, and not a support for ANY endeavor he attempts to explore, whether it be guns, golf, hunting, cars, some special hobby, stocks, a new career.

A woman of old was there ONLY to support the man. Read the Bible. Eve was "created" for Adam. Whether you believe that or not, it makes sense that in the beginning man needed a "helper," and that helper is Your sex. Your sex has strayed violently and vehemently off the natural beaten path, going your own way in this unnaturalness, and now, your sex (hypergamous to the hilt! fvckin 10s if not 100s of guys not beholden to just one, as his helper in life), is reaping what you sow, barrenness and poverty/decay for the rest of your natural known lives you've squandered away on your whims (whims not taking into account that time is finite, that you cannot go back and undo, and you WILL die manless or without a good man/family because you've forgone the natural path for humanity that was never questioned where the woman's role is to HELP the man, as a pair bond, in any endeavor he so chooses to pursue to support the both of you). A woman going one way and the man going the other, huh, that will Never work in the end relationship. It's best you cling to your man you've decided to bear children with.

The only reason you're hired anywhere is because a man somewhere hired you, either directly or indirectly. If you're a dentist, a man somewhere made that happen for you. Shear waste is at all-time highs in civilization right now, Mostly in government, but in all other areas too, of course, TIME so much wasted. I'd reckon 80% of the workforce everywhere today, world-wide, wastes 50% of their time doing nothing productive (or doing something "they think" is productive but is actually spinning wheels/going hard-core into the wrong direction, thus mega-UNproductive), and are vastly inefficient and do not care to be efficient even if they knew (or were informed) that they were being inefficient with their time. If women go back into the home, efficiency will return. Your sex needs a relaxed, make-believe, environment. You Thrive in such worlds, such books, to dream, imagine, and be there to coincide with your child's world of make-belief and imagination to cultivate, nurture and make him an expansive free-thinker. Your daughter, make her like yourself. The man's role is to bring reality to the child, to teach him to hunt, to deal with brutal physical things, to fend for himself.

It's a harsh world beyond America. We've got it Made here, so far. Aussies/Great Britain, and a few others have a sheltered existence most places too, with rule of law. I would Never allow my supposed daughter to travel Alone to most other countries today (and in the future, our own country, despite Talk of America becoming a "golden age" via Oil production thus increasing the strength of our $ and extreme debt liabilities outstanding - we are moving into relying heavily on our nat. resources going against the only thing that had been holding us back - legislation, environmentalists...the time for a desperation quick-fix is now, which may give us more time that we all here will live to never see the decline that we Thought was coming soon). Shear destruction of nature, to support our decades of unnaturalness, will be our last stand, in order to keep the big lie(s) going.

 

[Leopold]

But yeah good luck finding an old fashioned chick who will do things that women in the 50s used to do...take it from me, they dont exist anymore!!

Agree with Poonani

They exist its just the are already taken cause they are like treasures. You are going to have to burst your ass and sweat blood to get one of those in the current setting we live on. That's pretty much the dream of every rightful man. Its just sad there's not enough out there for every man in the world (well in the U.S speaking)

Or you could just take the easy route like the one I want to take. I just have to take advantage of plenty of girls like you to get whatever I want. I must sound like a horrible person right? Well, guess why turned out to be this way? The very same feminist ideals you are defending had a huge role on it.

If girls nowadays want or are expected to be less feminine then I guess I'll be less masculine (no homo) and don't man up. You want to be strong and independent? You want to wear the pants?

FINE with me!! Reverse the roles because that's equality!
I'll get sex from you whenever you feel like it (and when you don't I'll make sure I'll get it from somewhere else); I will make sure I'll have no kids; I'll receive money from you to buy myself what i want and go out shopping, marry you, divorce you and get 50/50 of your hard life earnings and go and spend it with the next broad I'll do the same thing with. I'll probably adopt at some point in my life.

Isn't Feminism such a wonderful thing? lol

 

[perseverance]

Men are genetically superior.

Its not hate - Its just fact. Our only weakness is we like boobies

Judging by this post I'd say you also like d*ck.

 

[floydb25]

So what your really saying is that your mother is a chimpanzee?

This made me lol. So perfect.

 

[sharkbeat]

Well every one these days has to work if you want to survive in this world whether your male or female unless your truly blessed with money that you dont need to, however even if i were with a man who worked and made loads of money that didnt need me to get a job, id still go out and find a job because technically that money is his not mine and i havent earnt it to spend it...

You see, this kind of thinking is exactly what modern women have. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with this, but this concept is changing the sexual dynamics in modern society. The old-fashioned way was that girls lived off her parents, then got married, then lived off her husband's wealth. There was never been a concept of "that's his money, this is her money". There was only one fund and that is the family fund. Men worked his ass off to generate more fund, women worked her ass off nurturing the future generations.

So having said that if women dont want to do "housewife" duties then they shouldnt have to. Were not robots you know, we have lives too.

No, they don't have to, and women are free to do whatever they wish nowadays. The consequences is that we, men, would also be free to do whatever we wish. Women had been given so much freedom, good behaviors and bad behaviors, that the society becomes mixed up and can't tell anymore what's good what's bad. Sleeping around is the norm now. ONS is expected that if you never had one there's something wrong with you.

But yeah good luck finding an old fashioned chick who will do things that women in the 50s used to do...take it from me, they dont exist anymore!! very rare.

Most men here aren't looking for the 50s old-fashioned women. They are looking for slvts, b!tches, the kind that dress in skimpy outfits and boobs about to pour out of her tiny tight dress. That's the kind of women men are after, and that's only for fvcking, and not for marriage. And she asked for it. What men would want to marry a slvt?

This isnt a bad thing, women have woken up and taken a stand and so we should, were not some sex object, house wife only born to be slaves to men...ha i dont think so...and thankgod for that.

And this board, and the whole men's right movement, manifest as an indirect consequences of this "woken up-taken a stand" thing. Women feel that they should be given the liberty to date whomever they want, etc. So women flaked, cheated, and nobody could no longer shamed her. Men, as the consequences of that movement, now feels that they no longer need to be the provider they are ought to do, and that they are also free to just fvck around with no strings attached.

Yet behind all these so-called 'freedom', there's a tiny voice inside every woman that wishes for a man to come over, propose her, start a family, and live happily ever after. That ain't happening when you all sleeping around and dress up in skimpy outfits!

And guess what, when it comes to fvcking around, men are biologically superior. We don't have to deal with virginity. Our penises require less maintenance than your vaginas.

And to the other poster who said that women do work well in business, politics etc well my country is run by a woman and were not doing that bad compared to the rest of the world. Some women can use logic over emotion

Yes, sometimes and very few women, but not the majority of women. There are always exceptions. Props to Hilary Clinton for running around the world talking to the political leaders. She didn't let her husband playboy behavior to get in her way. But, a woman can usually do that after she's past her meno age that her hormone no longer overcomes her. The women in 20s and 30s, yeah..good luck in finding one that can overcome her emotion consistently.


You may call us women haters, but we are not. We hate the modern women movement. We hate all the ****ty dramatic things that you did to us. We hate how you all can just turn sides at the flip of a finger and there's nothing we could do but gulp and move on. Yet somehow, despite all of these sexual injustices, the society still imposes 'good and provider' behavior to men and that a man who sleeps around immediately become a social outcast, and while women who do that, breaking her marriage and family, is normal and the court might even sided with her.

 

[Sneevox]

Let's just say that bad people exist in all forms, no matter what gender, color of skin, religion or political background.

Just because some people on here are completely idiotic doesn't mean all people are.
It's kind of like the daily news: People only really focus on the negative things. We only NOTICE the negative things. I can bet that if you set out to pick apart a ton of advice on this site, you'd notice that there's actually a decent amount of good people that balance out the bad people.

Perhaps your inability to notice the goodness is a reflection of inner imbalance?

Just an idea.

Namaste.

 

[Burroughs]

Our main weakness as men lies within our inability to recognize when and how men are hated

we want so desperately to believe the illusion, we want so desperately to be liked and wanted and needed, that we have lost all sort of instinct for self preservation, to the point where we will literally jump in front of knives and bullets for women we dont even know.

The system is not designed for male contentedness, it doesn't want male happiness, it wants you to constantly feel incomplete, it thrives off of your insecurity , it needs you to question yourself, it needs you to be in constant fear...

Of what exactly? of being alone of being a virgin, of continuing to have sex after your no longer a version, of being muscular, of not going bald, of this of that of everything. Because remember you are not allowed a shred of weakness or vulnerability, it stifles the spirit of men it is pesticide on the male soul.

society still has no clue, their pumping out these man up articles one right after another arent they? have we raised a generation of men that dont know how to be men? where have all the good men gone? how come women are outperforming men in this and that?, they simply will not come admit that this is a result of a sustained effort to disenfranchise men, one in which the end result can only be, men turning their backs on a society that will to the bitter end hate on men for doing so.

Because you exist to serve, there wont be an equal treatment of male victims of domestic violence, for example no matter how much the inequality of it is pointed out, simply because you as a man have no right in this society to demand equal treatment.

 

[djgirl]

Im not saying in no way that todays girls are angels because trust me they are not and alot of them need a good kick in the ass. Ive dated girls, ive slept with them, ive chased them etc and yeah your right even though i love them they are pure headfuc*ks. Especially girls around my age group, it seems all they want to do is get smashed and s1ut around and overlook us good people which fu**in sucks.

I get looked at weirdly by girls because im not into ONS or because i dont drink...im too classy for that sh1t but yet for this i have little luck in finding a "8" or "9".....
Pretty much the same with guys though, they charm the pants off me just to get me in to bed and then cya later....

I do hope one day to have a family of my own and get married whether it would be to a male/female, however in this day and age im highly doubtful this will happen unless i find someone 35+ whose looking to settle down.

All im saying really is if you want QUALITY women then become QUALITY men yourselves and try and give us decent chicks a chance instead of just going for the 8s and 9s

 

[Down Low]

Well thanks Atom Smasher. I really appreciate it.

Most men here aren't looking for the 50s old-fashioned women. They are looking for slvts, b!tches, the kind that dress in skimpy outfits and boobs about to pour out of her tiny tight dress. That's the kind of women men are after, and that's only for fvcking, and not for marriage. And she asked for it. What men would want to marry a slvt?

Well, perhaps they don't want to, but many do it anyway. Practically every one of my friends spent the last two decades going after pole dancers, prostitutes, neurotic good-times girls, online hookups, and casual ONS. Where did that lead? To family court, destitution, and depression. I thought I was doing much better, trying to gut it out with a BPD. I wasn't.

Two of my friends eventually got old-fashioned women from outside the US. They now have kids and seem to be doing OK. A third friend got an illegal alien and plans to marry her abroad and bring her here legally. Those three guys rave about how their new women are so much nicer to them than the horrible b1tches they had before. Nothing's perfect, but their current relationships look a lot more stable and have a better chance of enduring. What did those guys think about my relationship with my ex psycho cluster b1tch? They just turned and shook their heads.

I think any man could do better if he just threw a dart at a globe and went there. Hell, I bet Eskimo women rub noses with more warmth than I ever got here.

 

[Desdinova]

So having said that if women dont want to do "housewife" duties then they shouldnt have to.

This is a terrible attitude to have, and in my books it would disqualify you from being a potential girlfriend. Why? Because when the woman refuses to do "housewife duties" then someone has to pick up the slack - namely the man. Suddenly we have the man going to work, coming home, cooking dinner, cleaning the house, taking care of the children, and the woman of the house is doing whatever the fvck she pleases. The balance of work and co-operation is gone from the house because the woman is refusing to do "housewife duties" just because she doesn't want to (or doesn't want to portray the "50s housewife" label)

Pretty much the same with guys though, they charm the pants off me just to get me in to bed and then cya later....

Let me fill you in on something... If you're remotely attractive, then nearly EVERY man wants to get you into bed. They may approach it differently (buy you flowers, flirt with you, talk about computers, drive you home, etc) but they're ALL doing it because they want to sleep with you. The only time you believe they're not trying to get you into bed is when they cause YOU to feel attraction toward them. Then YOU are the one thinking about getting him into bed.

...and that's one of the main goals of this website; To get YOU to feel attraction toward us so we can fvck you.

All im saying really is if you want QUALITY women then become QUALITY men yourselves

This is also another goal of this website. We come here to figure out why we're not good enough for the majority of the women out there. We find out that we need to work on our "inner game" to become better men. The side effect to all this is we become more attractive to the opposite sex. When we pair that with learning how to push a woman's attraction buttons, we become high quality and heavily sought-after men.

The reason why you don't understand any of what takes place on this website is because you're a woman. You have no clue about how we've tried to use logic to try and come up with ways to attract the opposite sex. Then we come here and find out that we've been trying to impose logic onto the women we've been trying to attract. "Oh, she'll fall for me if I bring her something pretty on our first date." We came here to find out why this doesn't work.

What we discuss here is all about getting a woman's emotions working in our favor instead of against us. We're tapping into your natural desire of being attracted to confidence and alphaness, and aiming to get ourselves stuck in your head so you're constantly thinking about us. Is it manipulative? Of course. Does it work? Most certainly.

You are the cat, and we're aiming to become your catnip addiction.

 

[Brosy]

This is probabaly the most brilliant post I've read on this forum in years. It is a perfect encapsulation of the current dynamic.

It is so true, so perfect that it went over most of your heads.

If every man understood the truths revealed in this post, natural balance would start to occur and men would take their rightful place of authority and responsibility back.

Guys, THIS is the antidote to your feminized education. This is a look outside the artificial set you were brought up in, Truman.

Need I say, +1?

Agreed, a bell rang in my head with pretty much every paragraph. It got a bit 'caveman' near the end but I'm glad to know it's not something in ME that makes every girl I bump heads with regress to a hissy fitting 13 year old girl, as I had previously assumed.

 

[Atom Smasher]

There ya go... That's what it's all about... Finding out that it's not us, it's that we're dealing with illogical and insane creatures.

 

[Epimanes]

Man.. I'm so glad I'm married to my amazing wife and not in the dating game. My wife is nothing like people describe of womens attitudes here. She's got a grip on her emotions for the most part. She recognizes her moodiness when it comes and doesn't blame me unless I directly and obviously contribte to it and asks me to inform her when pms week starts so she can take steps to prepare herself to be more cautious of her wording or analyzing of situations (I keep track of her cycle per her request so I can let her know when she's being hormonal and she don't harp on me if I blame things on pms cuz she knows its true). She goes to work so we split house duties and kid duties. I gotz me a keeper! I feel sorry for people today dealing with the attitudes most ladies have. Like its their right to be. Women should be more open to letting their men guide them emotionally and recognize when their hormonal disposition is creating unnecessary drama instead of pretending like its everyone elses fault. Btw I have taught my teenage daughter this too so she understands and becomes a great wife for a luckt guy in the future.

 

[Eternal_water]

Well its annoying seeing everyone but yourself know how to get them.