Sick of the obsession with perfect 10 women on this forum

[TheMonkeyKing]

^^Precisely. I'd argue further that it's not (only) looks that get these guys listed sucess, but their attitudes as well. In fact, it's equally, if not more to do with their attitudes.

I've wriiten many times that my favorite type of woman is the 50'ish MILF type with big fake tits and lips, 5'8", long legs, skinny-to-lean body type. I'll take this type of woman over a 20-something Jessica Alba or Kardashian type ANY DAY.

Funny that. An old mate of mine was really into heavily made up, fake porno-looking chicks. Not my bag at all, but he actually dated a proper 10 for a while, though think they had a bunch of kids already between them.

That's the point, one man's 10 is another man's five. If Espi or any other mofo says this or that bird is a 10, well she's a 10.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

I disagree. I'd tell guys no matter how ugly they are, no matter how broke they are to have the confidence to get at the 8-9. If thats not working then aim a little lower but don't go out looking for 6-7. To me the game is about confidence and you should aim as high as you can.

I've seen plenty of ugly cats with dimes. If they had your philosophy they wouldn't be with the dimes. Also you guys are giving too much credit to women. Most of these women ain't shvt but a face and a pu$sy. We need to treat these girls as a number game anyway. Holla at as many dimes as you can and if you fail, who cares? I know for a fact 85% of women ain't doing as well as I am. That's their loss not mine.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Ariana Grande is a 9?

Thanks for the laugh. Be sure to order some eyeglasses soon.

 

[skinnyguy]

a 9 to you is a 6 to me bro. So I'm probably hitting on 6's in real life.

Like some people posted above if I can't get it up for a 4 why bother. Bragging rights on so suave? Lol. I'd rather go on a date with my right hand.

If you only go for fatties and single moms you're not really pushing yourself. That's like me taking a job at Taco Bell instead of a job at Morgan Stanley when I have a Master's degree.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

If Kim Ks an 8, Alba has to be a 10. She is waay prettier than Kim.

That was my point it all comes down to subjective opinion. I think Ariana Grande is cute, but if she is a 9 (in my perspective) then they scale has to get up to 13. This not a diss to you though bro, just highlighting how we all have difference of opinions on the beauty of women, art, cars, etc.

Kim K and Alba is close though.....I love my women curvy, tanned brunette with dark brown eyes

 

[MrWood]

Kim K is a reason all the fatty 6's feel so entitled, look at the worship they get for being fvckin porkers!

good job guys.

 

[HoneyHitter]

Ariana Grande? Really? Please tell me how you're able to distinguish her from a 12 y/o.

 

[fastlife]

Respectfully disagree with the premise of this thread. The reason most men won't pull 9's is because they think there's some list of boxes they need to check--they don't feel like they're worthy.

Women are women. If you can pull a 6, you can pull a 9. In fact, the competition for 6's and 7's is way more brutal, since most guys perceive these girls as more attainable and less likely to reject them. These girls IME have a level of ego-inflation and fear-of-rejection (i.e. being brought down to their actual SMV) that puts them on a way harder level than a typical 9. The only hard part about pulling 9's is, depending on where you live, finding them.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Kim K is a reason all the fatty 6's feel so entitled, look at the worship they get for being fvckin porkers!

good job guys.

Kim Kardashian is not fat. I am highly suspect of a man who likes women who have little boy or girl bodies.....
Give me my women of curves and big brown dark gorgeous eyes

 

[dutchmaster]

My measure of personal success has nothing whatsoever to do with others' standards and expectations.

I've fvucked a broad spectrum of women: HB's, rich MILFs, starving-artist types, fatties, uglies, chicks in their 20's, etc etc. And I've loved them ALL.

Espi is an equal opportunity sex machine. My motto is, If a chick is into me, I'm interested. Chicks with big tits and skinny bodies go to the front of the line every time...regardless of age or face or eyes or hair.

I've written many times that my favorite type of woman is the 50'ish MILF type with big fake tits and lips, 5'8", long legs, skinny-to-lean body type. I'll take this type of woman over a 20-something Jessica Alba or Kardashian type ANY DAY.

is it weird that they are my favorite type too except I'm half your age?? Where can I meet more of these chicks? lol

 

[Desdinova]

I've dated all across the board as well. I've proven to myself that I can pick up hot women, and that was good enough for me. However, I absolutely can't stand the issues that come along with hot women. I have absolutely no desire to put up with her stressful bull5hit. I have my own 5hit to take care of, so the less problems she brings to the table, the better.

After dating all across the board, I've found that my favourites are women under age 23, but there's lots of reasons for this. They don't have kids, they're fun, they're decent looking, they're low-mileage, and they're more likely to have the top spot of their high score list up for grabs. You guys can have your hot pains-in-the-ass, I'll stick with my not-too-bad-looking young women who wanna do 5hit to make me happy.

 

[guru1000]

I've dated all across the board as well. I've proven to myself that I can pick up hot women, and that was good enough for me. However, I absolutely can't stand the issues that come along with hot women. I have absolutely no desire to put up with her stressful bull5hit. I have my own 5hit to take care of, so the less problems she brings to the table, the better.

After dating all across the board, I've found that my favourites are women under age 23, but there's lots of reasons for this. They don't have kids, they're fun, they're decent looking, they're low-mileage, and they're more likely to have the top spot of their high score list up for grabs. You guys can have your hot pains-in-the-ass, I'll stick with my not-too-bad-looking young women who wanna do 5hit to make me happy.

I can't exactly disagree with this. Anyone who has LTR'ed the top end of the bell curve will tell you that the hottest of women are royal pain-in-the-asses. I have dated a ton of them, and this rule always holds true. I am tempted to dip lower as I have no tolerance for bullcrap especially given that most of my time and focus needs to be tended toward my business.

 

[skinnyguy]

Well I agree with Desdinova in that young girls are much better. The ones in their 30's have been rode hard and have horrible attitudes (not to mention baggage).

Going for very hot women taught me to not pedestalize them. I saw that they are just like other women. If I went for a hippo and settled down with her, I'd be a very unhappy man because I'd always think the grass is greener.

 

[Trump]

Most of the guys on this forum are not above average looks. Most of the guys on this forum are not rich. Most of the guys on this forum don't have elite social connections if you had these things sosuave would be a waste of time for you .. so why do you have these riddiculous standards?

You can make a thread that says "Hey guys, Im killing it" and people on here will be like "Yeah, but I bet they arent hot, I bet they arent 9s out of 10s or 10 out of 10s"

Why do you guys here put so much care into a woman's looks? We are constantly bashing women on this forum for being shallow yet we say the most shallow things ourselves.

Bro most questions on here come from guys who have dated the women. So obviously they are attracted to the girl.

I've never seen a guy here say "My girlfriends not smoking hot but she really gets me and goes out her way to make sure im happy".

So just about everyone on this forum has or had a problem getting women to like them, thats why you're here . then you come here and suddenly you have these "standards".

It's usually not the "standards" that guys complain about here. It's the getting the head spun, getting lied to, putting value into what the women is saying, spending time and money without getting anything return, sleeping with ex's at the same time, is where guys get messed up. If girls were straight up, guys here would have much less problems.

If you are not above average in multiple ways you are not going to consistently pull girls with model good looks.
You just are not. You need to focus on average girls who have average looks

All the PUA stuff is a sales ploy. Women aren't dumb. They are probably smarter than us at this stuff believe it or not. They sized you up as soon as you walked in that room and within about 15 seconds determined your status in life and if she would give you the time of day.

So why make the game harder for yourself? Go for the girls who dig you, that you can be yourself around and go out their way to please you.
If you can consistently pull 6s, pull 6s.

We arent going after women that are 9 out of 10 because 7 out of 10s just dont give us erections. We go after these hot girls so we can parade them around our friends and they can say "Woaaah your girl is so hot" ..

I don't think guys complain that much about not pulling "9/10" or "10/10". Most guys know they can't pull any girl that high. Most questions are here are from guys who are generally attracted to the girl.

No every girl in my harem isnt 9 out of 10 but I was being my authentic self when I pulled them and im fine with that. When you date women to have a trophy it is rooted in the need to impress people which is the opposite of manliness and an indicator of low self esteem.

Again bro I don't think most guys want a trophy girl here. In fact I think most guys don't. Alot of them would be more than happy with the not perfect, little overweight, kind of cute, friendly, responsible, no baggage etc type of girl. It's the not realizing you are getting played when they get themselves into trouble.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Since going out with my current woman, I've come to realize that the scale has two sides. There is the scale of 1-10 for natural beauty and the scale of 1-10 for "constructed" beauty. That means paint, putty, surgery, etc. My girlfriend is easily an 8 or maybe even 9 on the natural beauty scale, but doesn't have those artificial "Miss America" looks, which does absolutely nothing for me.

For me, looking at Victoria's Secret models, for example, does virtually nothing for me because I feel like I am observing a painted-on shell with something inferior lurking inside. And I think of the tremendous cost in maintenance of such women.

Natural beauty radiates organic LIFE, while constructed beauty has a certain artificiality and lack of life to it. Natural beauty is also an outward extension of character in most cases. Or perhaps I should say it is partly the result of outstanding character (something that is exceedingly rare in women today).

Every time I hook up with another natural beauty I realize I can never go back and date down to lesser looks. So the available pool shrinks as my experience grows. I've met so many women who are interested over recent years but I have no interest because I've been with several much more naturally attractive women.

Hopefully I can make a long run of this one. Going strong with zero drama so far. In fact as I type this, it's dawning on me how incredibly rare it is to find a woman with solid character and outstanding natural beauty. I fear I'm drifting OT, but my friends here are always very understanding of my occasional foray into excessive tongue wagging.

 

[Konada]

Since going out with my current woman, I've come to realize that the scale has two sides. There is the scale of 1-10 for natural beauty and the scale of 1-10 for "constructed" beauty. That means paint, putty, surgery, etc. My girlfriend is easily an 8 or maybe even 9 on the natural beauty scale, but doesn't have those artificial "Miss America" looks, which does absolutely nothing for me.

For me, looking at Victoria's Secret models, for example, does virtually nothing for me because I feel like I am observing a painted-on shell with something inferior lurking inside. And I think of the tremendous cost in maintenance of such women.

Natural beauty radiates organic LIFE, while constructed beauty has a certain artificiality and lack of life to it. Natural beauty is also an outward extension of character in most cases. Or perhaps I should say it is partly the result of outstanding character (something that is exceedingly rare in women today).

Every time I hook up with another natural beauty I realize I can never go back and date down to lesser looks. So the available pool shrinks as my experience grows. I've met so many women who are interested over recent years but I have no interest because I've been with several much more naturally attractive women.

Hopefully I can make a long run of this one. Going strong with zero drama so far. In fact as I type this, it's dawning on me how incredibly rare it is to find a woman with solid character and outstanding natural beauty. I fear I'm drifting OT, but my friends here are always very understanding of my occasional foray into excessive tongue wagging.

That's certainly a breath of fresh air from the usual talk about HB9-10s. How do you define natural beauty and strong character?

 

[Vivacity]

if not stars..

Victoria Justice - 8.5
Kim K. - 6
Khloé K - 7
Kourtney K - 6.5
Jessica Alba - 9
Jessica Biel - 9
Ariana Grande - 6.5
Snookie - 5
Taylor S - 9+
Margot Robbie - 9+

based on this scale, the under 7's would not be on my radar

I have to say these ratings are in the ballpark. Maybe, I will add or deduct 0.5 or 1 to some of these ratings, because we all have different set of eyes and different tastes and preferences. However, I more or less agree to these ratings.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Victoria Justice - 8.5
Kim K. - 6
Khloé K - 7
Kourtney K - 6.5
Jessica Alba - 9
Jessica Biel - 9
Ariana Grande - 6.5
Snookie - 5
Taylor S - 9+
Margot Robbie - 9+

based on this scale, the under 7's would not be on my radar

These ratings are off Jessica Biel a 9? Khloe is not prettier then Kim K. Margot Robbie is not a 9, she looks like a typical blonde. Alba who is my taste is not a 9 either. Taylor s? (swift) a 9? No way she is a solid 4 stop it

 

[cola]

These ratings are off Jessica Biel a 9? Khloe is not prettier then Kim K. Margot Robbie is not a 9, she looks like a typical blonde. Alba who is my taste is not a 9 either. Taylor s? (swift) a 9? No way she is a solid 4 stop it

I know we have our personal preferences, but your scale is harsh. Margot Robbie looks like a typical blonde, and Taylor Swift a 4 are my main concerns.

Taylor is average but not a frikkin 4.

 

[playa99]

If you want a harem of hot women, you must become 'hot' yourself. Whether that be social status, looks or money.

Anyone can do it if they are dedicated to improving themself. The truth is you come here and realise that there are more important things than chasing women. The irony is that focusing in the right area (Career, Health, Self esteem etc.) will help you get women without having to focus on them.

Margot Robbie is a 9 for me, So is Jenna Jenovich, Kelly Rohrbach & Victoria Justice, this is solely on looks. All comes down to personal preference.