Sick of the obsession with perfect 10 women on this forum

[cola]

Most of the guys on this forum are not above average looks. Most of the guys on this forum are not rich. Most of the guys on this forum don't have elite social connections if you had these things sosuave would be a waste of time for you .. so why do you have these riddiculous standards?

You can make a thread that says "Hey guys, Im killing it" and people on here will be like "Yeah, but I bet they arent hot, I bet they arent 9s out of 10s or 10 out of 10s"

Why do you guys here put so much care into a woman's looks? We are constantly bashing women on this forum for being shallow yet we say the most shallow things ourselves.

I've never seen a guy here say "My girlfriends not smoking hot but she really gets me and goes out her way to make sure im happy".

So just about everyone on this forum has or had a problem getting women to like them, thats why you're here . then you come here and suddenly you have these "standards".

Well Im going to go ahead and be completely honest because this forum needs it.
If you are not above average in multiple ways you are not going to consistently pull girls with model good looks.
You just are not. You need to focus on average girls who have average looks

All the PUA stuff is a sales ploy. Women aren't dumb. They are probably smarter than us at this stuff believe it or not. They sized you up as soon as you walked in that room and within about 15 seconds determined your status in life and if she would give you the time of day.

So why make the game harder for yourself? Go for the girls who dig you, that you can be yourself around and go out their way to please you.
If you can consistently pull 6s, pull 6s.

We arent going after women that are 9 out of 10 because 7 out of 10s just dont give us erections. We go after these hot girls so we can parade them around our friends and they can say "Woaaah your girl is so hot" ..

No every girl in my harem isnt 9 out of 10 but I was being my authentic self when I pulled them and im fine with that. When you date women to have a trophy it is rooted in the need to impress people which is the opposite of manliness and an indicator of low self esteem.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

I would love to see what you consider a 9/10? I bet she would make a good cast member in the Nightmare Before Christmas!

 

[MrWood]

from reading @cola one gets the impression he goes after HB6- because he dont pull higher, but gets tons of attention from fatty 4's and 5's, thus plenty-o-pvssy for cola. I understand what he says as it applies to him = create false value by having hoards of 5/6 girls and that 7/8 just might glance your way

I simply am not interested in these women, I dont want to fvck them, they are not even worthy of my interest... yea, I got tons of em chasing me too

thats great, and shows there are women out the for anyone and will show attention anf high IOI to you

some prefer to eat salmon rather than tuna.

 

[cola]

@Dhoulmagus to me a 9 would be Ariana Grande

@MrWood whats your credentials to eat salmon over tuna..? Salmon is cheap also so that was a sh*tty analogy. Would have been better to say "prefer to eat mahi mahi than tuna"..

But what is your job? Hows your body? Hows your social circle? That **** matters. Confidence without credentials is just delusions of grandeur. Confidence may get you in doors but wont keep you there with this "salmon your chasing" meanwhile perfectly edible tuna is swimming by

 

[Serenity]

@cola If only the world was as simple as anyone portray on an online forum. Remember we're just limited to the words another poster writes, we mostly have no visuals about what the poster is actually referring to. The number rating system is practically useless because of this.

The actual personal experience packs a sh!tload more information than the few lines of text posted here. We're left to imagine what the other poster means, but I seriously doubt any of us can accurately reconstruct it. Lots of information is trimmed off before it hits as a post titled "I was a complete alpha with this HB9". You can only imagine what that means, but whatever you imagine it's probably nowhere close to the truth.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

@Dhoulmagus to me a 9 would be Ariana Grande

@MrWood whats your credentials to eat salmon over tuna..? Salmon is cheap also so that was a sh*tty analogy. Would have been better to say "prefer to eat mahi mahi than tuna"..

But what is your job? Hows your body? Hows your social circle? That **** matters. Confidence without credentials is just delusions of grandeur. Confidence may get you in doors but wont keep you there with this "salmon your chasing" meanwhile perfectly edible tuna is swimming by

Salmon more nutritious though...

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Another thread like this? Man, if you're tired of dissenting opinions move on to the next thread. Some guys can't fake an erection for a 5 and would rather not get laid than do something so embarrassing. I'm one of them, so my notch count is low for my age.

Sorry chief, but you're coming off as the dude who smashes boatloads of 5's so he can then later say "I kill shlt". We've heard it all before. You admitted to me in the other thread you're not a 2% man (athlete/millionaire/perfect physique/world class guitar player), so it's very unlikely you've got 8's and 9's on standby.

 

[cola]

No one here is a 2% man, im just honest. And what do you mean another thread like this? 2 completely different topics..
Ya know what you are right. This forum is useless to me now. Instead of being here I should be reading or looking for a new gym routine.

 

[Epicwinguy]

Okay...I will go after average.

The average woman isnt missing most of her teeth, or any
The average woman doesn't look twice her real age
The average woman isn't a ****in crackhead.

Average is what I'm going for, in fact, but I lack success in certain areas

 

[mrgoodstuff]

No one here is a 2% man, im just honest. And what do you mean another thread like this? 2 completely different topics..
Ya know what you are right. This forum is useless to me now. Instead of being here I should be reading or looking for a new gym routine.

guru1000 might be. When we say 2%, we mean 2% body, 2% income. We may have others too.

 

[cola]

Guru has a great body. I have no doubts he could pull 8s consistently. Thats because he put the work in to be hotter than an 8 himself. @KingofPuss is a very nice looking kid im sure he does well and @Espi looks great for his age as well.
Im sure they can pull 8s and 9s.

All im saying essentially is get in where you fit in. Sure you can get a banging body and work your ass off till your rich if you want.
But do that first before you have these crazy standards.
If you are just an average joe you should be going for average girls no 9s and 10s.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

And that is how all our taste vary, Ariana Grande to me is a 6 My type more I'll use famous chicks to lazy to google instagram models would be Kim Kardashian, Jessica Alba.....they are like 8s to me. But its all subjective, some of my boys think Kim K is butt ugly.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Guru has a great body. I have no doubts he could pull 8s consistently. Thats because he put the work in to be hotter than an 8 himself. @KingofPuss is a very nice looking kid im sure he does well and @Espi looks great for his age as well.
Im sure they can pull 8s and 9s.

All im saying essentially is get in where you fit in. Sure you can get a banging body and work your ass off till your rich if you want.
But do that first before you have these crazy standards.
If you are just an average joe you should be going for average girls no 9s and 10s.

Unless you where from the social circle these "9's and 10's" live in and can bust their chops. Some times guys can do this...

But I agree, it will be wiser to be at least one point better in looks than any target you want to work with, this way she is working harder for you and this is the preferred position to be in. You won't have to game her she will be trying to game you...

 

[cola]

And that is how all our taste vary, Ariana Grande to me is a 6 My type more I'll use famous chicks to lazy to google instagram models would be Kim Kardashian, Jessica Alba.....they are like 8s to me. But its all subjective, some of my boys think Kim K is butt ugly.

If Kim Ks an 8, Alba has to be a 10. She is waay prettier than Kim.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

There are different reasons why people are here.

Some are virgins, some are here because they got burned, some just want to transcend the existence they had before. Other more experienced guys hang around to pass on what they've learned.

Two summary points as is TMK's usual way:

1) The Visual Analogue Scale is a completely subjective measure - a 10/10 to one guy will be a 5/10 to another. Not all 10's are Hollywood starlets and you don't have to be a '2%' guy to meet and pull them. I've met some stunning Europeans, with soft feminine demeanours, who would easily pull rank over most of Hollywood and Sports Illustrated combined (for me anyway). I mean, these are real beauties that not many men would pass by. The presumption that the cream of the dating pool is exclusive to Hollywood/SI/Playboy/Esquire is total blue pill horse sh!t.

2) There is nothing wrong with wanting the best out of life in any respect; whether that be work, money, physique, 'standard' of women. The OP does sound like a bit of a cop out. But I agree that personality does go further than looks in the longer term. The real cream of society can usually be found in the top universities, studying law or medicine or such professions. Some of these women will have the best genes anyone will find anywhere, both aesthetically and otherwise, and that's usually my main consideration.

There is, as is said, no accounting for taste.

 

[sharkbeat]

Women aren't dumb. They are probably smarter than us at this stuff believe it or not. They sized you up as soon as you walked in that room and within about 15 seconds determined your status in life and if she would give you the time of day.

No, they are not. They appear "smarter" because they get to be the ones chased after. We all can appear smarter when we are being desired. If Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Soros, and all the riches of the world are busting your phones asking for a little bit of your time to talk about businesses, you too would appear "smarter".

Women by nature are the ones to be chased around. They don't get to do ****. They just need to stand around there and "feel fabulous". Yes, they size you up, but that doesn't mean their sizing is correct. I bet 80% of the time, their initial sizing is always wrong. You could be out there killing bears during the day, and walked into a bar at night by yourself, and not a single woman would bat an eye on you. Be a slob in your entire life, walk into a bar with two hot hookers in your arms, some women will take an interest in you.

The only thing that I would give women some credit at being better than men is their conversational intuition. They can usually sense when something is off, when something is NOT right, but that's after talking to you. Women cannot truly understand your value, but they can sense potential dangers (not dangers in a bad-boy-sexy kind of way, but dangers as in texas-chainsaw-massacre-conartist-run-for-your-****ing-life kind of way).

So no, they can't "determine your status in life". They are freakin clueless about that. There's a general attitude among PUAs and sosuave here that women are somehow these magical beings that know everything. No they don't. They are dumb human beings just like everyone else, and the only upper hand they have is being pretty. We all should stop, as men, to rely on women as our progress bars.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

They sized you up as soon as you walked in that room and within about 15 seconds determined your status in life and if she would give you the time of day.

I loled at this because I do the same to women but a male version haha.

Now let's be honest here, do you really believe that a woman will always do everything to keep a man happy? Most of us do not and because of this, we believe that women come and go. So if they are only temporary, then why waste time looking for girls who are below us in looks? The issue isn't that we are wanting women out of our league, but that women think they are in ours when they aren't (I know of a fat whale who weighs more than my dad at 5'5 and thinks that she deserves me) or when women equal to us think that they're hotter than us (I know of a girl who is pretty much the female version of me in looks but thinks she is the hottest girl in the world, mostly because guys give her whatever the heck she wants).

I know my value and my potential. I may be doing decently in life, but later on I will be great. Women? They may be doing good now (not great) but later on are useless. Past the age of 35 most women can't even be considered as trophy wives because they aren't even beautiful anymore at that point. Hotter women are harder to get too. If a woman is ugly as hell and is dtf, then a lay is going to be the easiest thing ever. A hot woman is much harder so you have to REALLY be on point with your social skills and sexual attraction. If you do bang a 9 or 10, then that means that you are now much more skilled in the art of seduction than most others which is an accomplishment. It is like saying "Why do people want Steph Curry's autograph all the time? Sure he is currently one of if not the best NBA player right now, but there are a ton of other amateurs out there who want to be just like him and would love it if you ask for their autograph." You see what I mean? There is a difference. It is harder to obtain, therefore more valuable (I hate saying it like that because it's like I'm pedestalizing the pvssy, but this is the best way I can explain it).

 

[BlueAlpha1]

And what do you mean another thread like this? 2 completely different topics..

Let me correct myself. It's your first created thread even though you've been saying pretty much the same things in the other thread. But I'm referring back to a thread from another poster who made another "I'm so sick off..." then lambasted posters who weren't as ruthlessly alpha such as to grope a woman 10 minutes into the first date. My argument to him was if you're head and shoulders above the rest of us, what's the point?

Ya know what you are right. This forum is useless to me now. Instead of being here I should be reading or looking for a new gym routine.

Maybe. This forum, like anything else has a half life.

No one here is a 2% man, im just honest.

Lol, some would differ. From what you read some days, the Wolf of Wall Street, Channing Tatum, and the actual folklore character of Don Juan are among us.

 

[Skyline]

Victoria Justice is a 9 for me.

 

[MrWood]

if not stars..

Victoria Justice - 8.5
Kim K. - 6
Khloé K - 7
Kourtney K - 6.5
Jessica A. - 9
Jessica B. - 9
Ariana Grande - 6.5
Snookie - 5
Taylor S - 9+
Margot Robbie - 9+

based on this scale, the under 7's would not be on my radar