Sick of the obsession with perfect 10 women on this forum

[skinnyguy]

If they say, "I'm old enough to be your Mom," I'd say, "So is that a dealbreaker for you?" I find that an accompanying smile and puppy-dog eyes can often work wonders when asking that question.

If she says it is a dealbreaker, then I would politely eject: "I understand. No hard feelings Hon. You have yourself a great night." Then walk away.

If she says it's not a dealbreaker, then you've likely snagged a nice piece of ass.

When they ask what I'm looking for, my reply is ALWAYS, "The love of my life." I'm convinced that even when an older chick knows that I just want sex, they'll STILL fvuck me, as long as I SAY the things they want to hear. This is the woman's weakness, and I encourage you to take full advantage of it.

I've met tons of older women online. I've discovered there are LOTS of hot, horny 30+ year old divorcees are who eager for a great fvuck, after having endured years of mediocre fvucks from the estranged husband.

If I were you, I'd join match.com and list age preference from 23-50.

In my opinion the key is to just keep approaching. One misnomer that I constantly read and hear about MILFs and Cougars is that they're sex-starved and desparate and easy to lay. Maybe some of them are, which is 100% fine with me, but I find that most of these older chicks, believe it or not, are operating from a position of abundance; they're being approached and emailed by lots of younger guys, so be prepared for rejection and the "I'm-too-old-for-you" line.

Interestingly, my two main chicks are 31 and 32. One is Asian and the other is Latina. The Latina one is kind of a girl I just like to bang while the Asian one is more of a girlfriend type. What I have found is that women in their 30's either really like you a lot or don't like you at all. I try to pull girls between 20 and 24 but they are so wishy washy with their interest level. They could be really high interest one week and go ghost forever after that.

The girls in their 30's who really like you won't play as many games. Yes many of the women that age are divorced and or ugly; so the pickings are slim. But if you go out enough you'll find them. Many of the times, they would reject you if they saw you on Tinder but they'd date you if they saw you in real life. That's 30's dating in nutshell.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Whatever poster said perfect is boring is correct. Seen some beautiful women in my life that were really good looking (rare) Thing was...they were so good looking it was boring. I find beauty in flaws

 

[Julian]

LOl fuk this number system either shes HOT or shes NOT

 

[guru1000]

I'll add:

There is no perfect 10 overall. If a girl is 10 by appearance, she will be lacking character or appreciation, as men pander to her every wish for free. Nothing you could do for her will be appreciated, as it's ordinary and expected.

Whereas a 5 by appearance, will likely possess greater character and appreciation, as men don't pander to her every wish, and anything you do for her will be met with genuine gratitude and reciprocated ten-fold.

There is a cost/benefit with either scenario. Choose a healthy balance instead.

 

[The Duke]

After you have been with a highly attractive female with too much attitude and only decent skills in bed......and then one with lesser looks, an excellent attitude, and a freak in the sheets....you start to wonder why you stayed with the previous one for so long.

In the long run, ATTITUDE and SEXUALITY trump superior LOOKS every time, but to each his own.

 

[MrWood]

I am 50 and do not regret not fvcking all the HB5/6 I could have had

 

[mrgoodstuff]

There is a way to date above your "league":

Boldness and audacity without calling attention to it. This is extremely hard for the younger man to pull off (in a properly calibrated way) but as you get older it becomes easier. Turn your quirks onto attraction levers.

Being audacious involves revealing something about yourself that is quirky and giving zero Fs about it. I'm sure by now most of you have heard the phrase, "emotional contagion". Women will believe whatever you believe because they get their social cues from external sources. They will believe what you believe and they will feel what you project.

That is absolute crack (is that phrase still used?) to 8's and 9's because all they deal with is self-conscious men.

--- IDGAF -- should be your mantra. Not with morality, kindness, gentlemanliness, etc. But rather, with your preferences, values, quirks, and the essence of who you are. Be audacious in a way that doesn't call attention to itself and you are golden in terms of attracting super-attractive women.

Most of what we call "perfect 10's" around here are broke and use all their time and attention on their outer looks. They also dress themselves from boyfriends and lovers money. They tend to control the environment just around them, so they lie a lot, don't have a lot to offer but a look, and many times are very selfish and bad lovers when it comes to sex.

My personal "perfect 10" is a lady who looks great without makeup, tends to have good jobs and WILL spend money on her boyfriend or husband, and she is humble enough to be good at sex and submit to her male.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Some of my best pure nasty fvucks came from the lesser-attractives.

And they'll even fvck you harder and better if they know it's competition.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

My Asian super fit wife is a easy 8-9..... My slight chubby paramour is a 6...

I like my mistress better..... Funny how that works.

I bet that mistress makes you feel like a man... I'm sure the old wife used to be an erection killer, probably stealing all the attention around her and not giving. And some half a$$ very occasional sex acts that you are supposed to act like came from the gods.

I bet your c0ck and ballz hang long and strong at all times now.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Most of what we call "perfect 10's" around here are broke and use all their time and attention on their outer looks. They also dress themselves from boyfriends and lovers money. They tend to control the environment just around them, so they lie a lot, don't have a lot to offer but a look, and many times are very selfish and bad lovers when it comes to sex.

My personal "perfect 10" is a lady who looks great without makeup, tends to have good jobs and WILL spend money on her boyfriend or husband, and she is humble enough to be good at sex and submit to her male.

You know, I just had my girlfriend down here for the weekend, and I just realized that she doesn't even wear makeup. Literally none. The thought never even crossed my mind, which I find very odd as I do like a girl to wear a small amount. I'm kind of waking up to the fact that she is a real stunner. It's funny because in the past, I've talked with her in general about looks and have said, "If the barn needs painting, paint it" and she responded with great amusement.

@zekko, I didn't know Pook said that about boring. I've often said that I find the "perfect Miss America" looks to be so boring that they do absolutely nothing for me. I literally have zero sexual response with those women.
The ones who do it for me are the ones who are uniquely good-looking. I'm starting to realize that I've been blessed to have such a woman.

 

[zekko]

I didn't know Pook said that about boring. I've often said that I find the "perfect Miss America" looks to be so boring that they do absolutely nothing for me.

He did say it, although he was talking about himself and men in general. He was saying that you don't have to be perfect in order to attract women, and in fact perfect is boring. But it applies to women too. I agree with some others here that if women look too perfect, they look dull. Sometimes if a woman has a feature that is slightly askew, it gives her face more character and makes her more noticeable and memorable, if you know what I mean.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Ah, I see.

Yes, I do know what you mean about "slightly askew". Perfect is boring as all heck.

 

[GoodOne123]

I will take a 7/10 with a good attitude over a 10/10 with a bad attitude anyday.

For me personally, the 10/10 women always end up being highly narcissistic, or screwed up, or plain boring. I have only met a couple woman who had genuine breathtaking 10/10 looks and a good head on her shoulders to go with it.

Of course, having a woman that has everything is ideal. However, I do believe some of the guys here are putting too much value on looks. I always love to ask myself, "what else does she bring to the table?" when I am dating a new woman. It puts everything in perspective and keeps you from being fixated on just her looks.

 

[Top Of The Game]

Most of the guys on this forum are not above average looks. Most of the guys on this forum are not rich. Most of the guys on this forum don't have elite social connections if you had these things sosuave would be a waste of time for you .. so why do you have these riddiculous standards?

You can make a thread that says "Hey guys, Im killing it" and people on here will be like "Yeah, but I bet they arent hot, I bet they arent 9s out of 10s or 10 out of 10s"

Why do you guys here put so much care into a woman's looks? We are constantly bashing women on this forum for being shallow yet we say the most shallow things ourselves.

I've never seen a guy here say "My girlfriends not smoking hot but she really gets me and goes out her way to make sure im happy".

So just about everyone on this forum has or had a problem getting women to like them, thats why you're here . then you come here and suddenly you have these "standards".

Well Im going to go ahead and be completely honest because this forum needs it.
If you are not above average in multiple ways you are not going to consistently pull girls with model good looks.
You just are not. You need to focus on average girls who have average looks

All the PUA stuff is a sales ploy. Women aren't dumb. They are probably smarter than us at this stuff believe it or not. They sized you up as soon as you walked in that room and within about 15 seconds determined your status in life and if she would give you the time of day.

So why make the game harder for yourself? Go for the girls who dig you, that you can be yourself around and go out their way to please you.
If you can consistently pull 6s, pull 6s.

We arent going after women that are 9 out of 10 because 7 out of 10s just dont give us erections. We go after these hot girls so we can parade them around our friends and they can say "Woaaah your girl is so hot" ..

No every girl in my harem isnt 9 out of 10 but I was being my authentic self when I pulled them and im fine with that. When you date women to have a trophy it is rooted in the need to impress people which is the opposite of manliness and an indicator of low self esteem.

1. Let me say that I am in agreement with you but without even reading the responses and knowing the type of males that you get here, I would say you're going to get a bad response to this very important message.

2. These guys have to learn the hard way that you will attract more to your own level. If you're a 6 then you will get 6's & 7's, or I should say ATTRACT! Some of these guys on this forum are too either young and or immature to understand that is the nature of the game.

3. Also remember 99% of them wack off to internet porn. Women in porn don't look like women in the streets. Porn uses hours of make up caked on and hair pieces and way over blown prop's. Street women use similar but most not to that level. So their minds have been pimped to think those are hot women and any woman should look like that if they are to date them, and or some hot actress they slather on.

4. When you get in real life and look at couples out there you will see like does attract like. People who look good have a higher vibration and are more positive in life. People who look average have average confidence and blah blah blah. Occasionally you will find one that breaks the rules. A good looking guy (probably gay) with a obese fat nasty female or vice versa. Now I am talking about REAL LIFE, such as when you get off these dam computers and get out into the real world and pay attention. Hot guys get hot chicks. Sorry that is the way it works in the
REAL WORLD. Unless:

a) your a bouncer masculine type
b) same above only a bad boy
c) you have lots of freaking social status
d) also lots of doe.
e) fireman, policeman anything in a uniform can also skip up a few numbers.

5. Again this is real world not internet fantasies. On the internet every guy believes he deserves a perfect 10. Even though he isn't 10 material but Joe Blow and his magic scripts have sold him on the idea that he could and the culture of PUA is that nothing less counts. Which accounts for their huge failure rate.

6. If you look at the actual catches of most students their women are always on their own level. Years ago poor guys posted photos of their girls on this very forum back in 08, and the dudes on here back then all blasted the poor guys women as if they could do better. Years ago they had the photos of the members and if you had seen those fellows you would of asked why would they of done something like that (no offense to current members, I'm sure you're all Channing Tattum level dudes and can dance like Magic Mike).

7. Basically if you look more on this level :

Then maybe you need to work a bit more on yourself if your trying for a drop dead gorgeous chick. Sorry but you are beneath her. Your vibe and looks that is. She won't be feeling you. Again I do humbly appologize.

 

[Atom Smasher]

That's certainly a breath of fresh air from the usual talk about HB9-10s. How do you define natural beauty and strong character?

I would say that natural beauty is a combination of good genetics with a feminine, poised character that shines through and is conveyed by her facial expressions and her body language.

Strong character... Poise, a sense of morality, projects feminine energy, has no interest in feminism, loves the natural gender differences, admires masculinity and masculine behavior, is submissive and compliant (guys, this is critically important), has had very few sexual experiences (each one massively robs a woman of pure feminine essence and core stability because she absorbs and keeps male essence), loving nature in general, good with children, smiles a lot, gentle demeanor and graceful movements (which is a reflection of character), isn't given to drama, doesn't make everything a crisis, doesn't talk your ear off (use you to dump on like most women do). Those are just some of many that I've osserved.

My present girl reflects all of that. In four months she literally has not even tested me once. Not even a trace of drama or testing. And believe me, I know how to precipitate it out of a woman early. I am strong and tough in the beginning, all for the purpose of accelerating the process of getting that sh!t to rise to the surface.

One thing I have going for me is that we share the same spiritual beliefs. This is HUGE. God, as He has expressed in the bible, is all about male leadership and authority and the submissiveness of women. Yet, He admonishes men to love their wives sacrificially. This is very easy to do when the woman loves her femininity and her man's masculinity. Such a man is never an abusive dictator, but rather a protective rock that continually looks out for her well-being, yet will discipline when necessary. I'm very fortunate in that my girl has even said she loves the way I administer discipline in our relationship. I don't need to tell you how rare that is.

I know my writing about her can sound a little "braggy", but she really does make for an incredibly good template for a quality woman. I have never been able to say that about any woman in all my years on this planet, nor in the 7th dimension which is where I spend most of my time.

A woman with a submissive spirit accompanied by strength of character is the golden combination in my view. They are rare as can be but they are out there in tiny numbers. Such a submissive woman garners great respect from a man. This is a paradox that very few women understand and therefore they try to position themselves as "powerful" and non-submissive to their great disadvantage.

"Again with the tongue-wagging, Atom Smasher! It's a good thing that deep within your onslaught of excessive words can be found a nugget of truth". There, I said it for you!

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

How about dating women you like.. If she is not gorgeous SFW. I would rather be with a woman I have a good time with than a boring one that looks better.Dating for bragging rights is juvenile. I did that when I was 16. She was tall, blonde and with big tits and a year older. She was also a bit thick, very ordinary in bed, self-conscious about getting naked and wouldnt let me play with her tits (not as awesome out of a good bra). Lesson learned.

 

[zekko]

God, as He has expressed in the bible, is all about male leadership and authority and the submissiveness of women. Yet, He admonishes men to love their wives sacrificially. This is very easy to do when the woman loves her femininity and her man's masculinity. Such a man is never an abusive dictator, but rather a protective rock that continually looks out for her well-being, yet will discipline when necessary.

Yeah, anyone can be a leader, but you need to be a good leader. Men's failure to lead well is one thing that led to the rise of feminism, IMO. They talk about back in the 50s when women were submissive, but husbands abused their power by having affairs, becoming alcoholics, and being wife beaters. I've always said that part of being a good leader is being a role model for appropriate behavior. You don't want to be like OJ Simpson, going crazy and beating up your wife.

 

[Atom Smasher]

I agree. An authentic leader first and foremost looks after the well-being of those whom he leads, whether that is one or many. I also always say that leadership is never seized, it is granted voluntarily, because the ones who submit to that leadership recognize his strength and his inner imperative to protect and serve.

An abuser is never a leader. What I love about my present relationship is that this woman gladly submits to me because she feels safe and protected. It's funny you mention "role model" and setting an example. My woman just texted me this very second, as I type this, with, "Thanks for challenging me by your example and your words to live a life that is exemplary..."

I know it sounds "braggy" to talk about one's own relationship like this, but I want to give hope to the thousands who read this site that the good ones are out there even though they are exceedingly rare.