PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Women cheat....is this some revelation to you? You are a violently unsound thinker. Like I said, if you dont have the experiences we have then this will all be alien to you..
This quote here sums it all up and proves my whole point about your boundaries.
You and the crew were cheated on and broken up with before.
That's why you feel you need to hold your women down to "terms" and control them to boundaries for the fear of being cheated on again.
Guess what? Terms and boundaries still aren't going to save you from that happening again.
Can we end this discussion now?
VikingKing said:
But no one is perfect, and men have feelings also. You really care way to much about trying to prove the boundary guys wrong. You really have nothing better to do?
They aren't going to agree with you.
They have already been proven wrong in several threads. Nobody has an answer to my points except the same repetitive false comments.
Boundaries are a preference and it's the woman's attraction is what counts. If there is no attraction coming from the woman the boundaries aren't worth $hit.
Who cares if they agree with me. I don't expect them to cause they can't understand common sense and are too hard headed.
All my points are for others to learn from in this forum and a lot of people are learning. I received several messages on the subject cause people want to know more about what I have to say.
All of those boundary guys have failed past relationships with boundaries and they still keep preaching for it
I have over a 2 year successful relationship and I didn't set any verbal boundaries with my woman cause I didn't need to.
You can still be a strong leader without telling her you don't accept her hanging out with other men.
When women are showing you through their own actions that they understand what it means you don't need to verbally tell them.
Quit being an idiot and using projection. They are posting just as much if not more than me.
I occasionally post here. You sit your ass on here each day. Don't you have anything else better to do? Start adding some posts of substance.
Danger said:
Solly,
You are trying to say my exit cost for housing is equivalent to a marriage exit cost.
My exit cost on housing is merely my purchasing her equity. That is not even a cost
You are trying so desperately to win that you actually try to make such ridiculous claims. And yes your posts are constantly full of insults and self affirmations that "everyone" agrees with you, when all I see are an army of people ignoring you or proving how wrong you are.
A divorce has the same exit cost as buying someones equity in a house??!!?! Good god I cannot believe you are making this argument.
You still have to pay her off large sums money. Why argue that?
You still are locked down living with one woman like a married man. You are in a de facto marriage. Why argue that?
You are being a hypocrite and making a fool of yourself. No need to defend or be ashamed of your living arrangement. That is what you chose.
I've already proven your boundaries to be crap. You can't answer anything I've said above. All you do is whine again about being insulted, saying your "cost" isn't as much as a married man, and "people calling me out" when it's 2 boundary crew guys doing that LOL.
Your contradictory boundary claim was $hit. Everybody besides your crew can see that.
Everything you do with your woman is the same as non boundary men do except you stated terms to her once that she can forget about and ignore after you told her later.
If people are that stupid not to understand that then they will find out for themselves like Social Leper, pairplusroyalflush, and in2thegame found out when their boundaries failed them.
There are no insults. Where's the army of people? 3 members from your boundary crew who agree with you? LOL. G Govan and Sylvester disagrees with you.
All you can cite is boundary crew members who are dating old mature women as your evidence. Replace those women with hot 21 year olds and your boundaries might not work out so well.
Start posting something of substance instead of crying "you insult me", "you need to define terms", "these boundary guys are getting sex and a certain member is not".
Same old $hit and projection in each post. You have nothing else to go on and neither does your crew.
Not one person from the boundary crew has come close to saying anything sufficient to argue their point on why boundaries actually work.
All you do is say "You must state terms", "Men must be leaders", same old $hit. Men can lead without stating terms.
Terms and agreements can easily be voided.....ask all the taken girls that banged other men how they feel about "terms" their boyfriends set months/years prior.
Relationships are more than just stating terms. When you don't have the rest of the $hit to go along with it your terms go down the drain along with your relationship.
Atom Smasher said:
One big problem here is that the anti-boundary crowd cannot envision the nuance of the master.
Every organization, every entity that involves more than one person involves defined boundaries. As reflected in my title for this thread, boundaries are an agreement of acceptable behavior between two or more people which conveys to each other how the concept of respect will work between you. Each person must be aware of these expectations.
The male is the leader. It is essential that he sets the parameters (boundaries) of the relationship and that the other person is well aware of them and agrees with them.
The male is the leader. It is essential that he sets the parameters (boundaries) of the relationship and that the other person is well aware of them and agrees with them.
And agreements are made to be broken when the woman loses feelings or has other men as options. Men can still lead without stating terms.
Women aren't going to care how smoothly you stated your terms or how you finessed.them when the attraction is gone. They are too focused on their new man they are gunning for.
Just because you agree on something when her IL is at the highest point doesn't mean it will stay the same when her IL lowers.
You guys can't grasp that simple concept. You think as long as she agrees to "your terms" you can lead her the way you choose. It doesn't work that way if she isn't willing to follow your lead. After she refuses that's when the bottom falls out of your boundary terms.
It also depends on what the woman looks like and how old she is.
Women who aren't good looking and are older have less options so they stay with the boundary.
Women who are young and hot might not stay with the boundary as easily.
I know a lot people who "agreed" to terms at the start of the relationship.
Those relationships failed when the woman decided that's not what she wanted.
I remember talking to the taken women I banged. That's what they said. "I thought that's what I wanted." It sounded good to them at the time but after it wasn't and the terms of the agreement were broken.
Men can still lead without informing her what exclusivity means.
So what if she agrees to the parameters on January 31st when on July 31st she is with another man?
What good were the rules and the terms?