Seemingly every avenue to meet single women is completely dominated in numbers by men. What am I supposed to do?

[MatureDJ]

I went on dating apps. I was overweight at the time and not particularly photogenic.

I had a new date minimum twice a month.

I found the better sites where you have to pay was much better than tinder and the free ones, which were all about looks.

I did, however, spend most evenings messaging. I had maybe a one in 10-15 response rate.

I’d say the responders, one in 3 got to a date. Out of the dates, maybe 1 in 2 got to sechs.

I would add that the moment I gave up PUA game techniques, and presented myself as who I was, the better it got.

You have to accentuate your real strengths.

At first I tried sporty pics and a picture of my nice car/flat. The moment I changed to the real me - a good suit. Blazer and jeans, it changed .

If you can’t pull off bad boy alpha (I can’t), pull off “guy who she would be proud to bring to a party”

OLD gets a bad rap, but as has been established, a lot of guys are here because they don’t know how to talk to women. Especially with written communications, I find this easy.

How tall are you?

 

[MatureDJ]

Dance classes are mainly women, yoga classes are mainly women, hospitals are mainly women, pet shelters are mainly women, the list goes on.

Are you trying to say that men should start trying SickMaxxing?

BTW, I remember reading about PetShelterGame, so I started to visit off-and-on pretending I was looking to adopt a stray. I think I was the lightest human there.

 

[MatureDJ]

I feel your pain. In Darwin, historically demographically, there has always been more Men than Women (which goes against the National Demographic), most likely due to Male focused industries such as the Armed Forces and Mining.

Go to a Pub / Club on a busy night between Thursday - Sunday, and the ratio would be Men 55%, Women 45%.

However, it got way WORSE when the American Marines began to be stationed in Darwin. When they were on leave, and hit the town, they would flood the local main street of Darwin where the Bars are, and it would turn into a horrendous C!ck-Fest. I saw my favourite bar turn into 90% men, and10% women. I HATED it, when they were in town. I found them weird in a queer sense also, as they would all dance together.

As an aside, has the American Marines reduced or eliminated any physical restrictions upon enlistment? A vast majority of them I designate as Triple M's... Mexican Midget Marines. Most of them are tiny, and I'm not hugely tall, I'm 5'11". After a few drinks, I've been tempted to drop a smart-arse Star Wars quote to them: "Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper"?

Darwin sounds horrifically Darwinian.

 

[IKO69]

This has always been the case. You have to ignore the other guys and have a higher estimation of yourself. Most men on the scene are npcs - non playable characters. They likely have the same insecurities, fears, inadequacies about measuring up as such they are beaten long before they even start. In this environment someone who knows what they are doing can easily thrive.

There waa a point in my young adult life I had these fears too. I laughed myself silly when I realized it was completely unfounded. The % of people who know what they are doing is small, this also includes guys you may think clean up with women. There are many who only look the part keep that in mind.

 

[MatureDJ]

Im willing to bet you have no social networks to meet women through. And when i say social networks, im not talking about the stuff that guys parrot on the internet for you to "do". Im talking about the way people actually meet - acquaintances who simply invite their male and female acquaintances to social gatherings, you being one of those invited.

Am i right?

I remember having some social circles like this; every available woman was either a single mommy, or shaped like a beach ball.

 

[MatureDJ]

College campuses and malls are much better places to be.

You have to be better than all of the other guys out there. Being in the top 50% is easy since many dudes out there are porn and video game addicted messes with no game. Being in the top 10% is really hard.

... and impossible if < 5' 6"

 

[Plinco]

... and impossible if < 5' 6"

Tap into that inner Joe Pesci

 

[MatureDJ]

I have a friend who is 5'4" with no LMS and I guarantee you he has had more sex than me lifetime. He is never single.

Is he a chubby chaser?

 

[MatureDJ]

6’2

No wonder you have no problems with chicks.

 

[LTG71]

I want to do yoga cause I need to increase my flexibility, but all the women will think Im there to chad on them. But I found a solution. I'm going to dress in a wig and be as gay as possible.

Lol! Same, I did yoga for five years before the pandemic. Most of the women in class were shocked to see a man in the class. The vibe was like you invaded their “female” space. After attending on a constant basis, they realized you‘re not a creep and actually there to workout. The older women were more engaging, the smoking hot young ones always kept to themselves. Check out Wonderlust yoga events, 10 to 1 ratio, women to men. God bless the Lululemon corporation.

 

[2Rocky]

It's funny, In hunting public land, many unsuccessful people complain about it being crowded. Then the guys who are consistently successful, find the fringes or out of the way spots others overlook, and are consistently successful. They don't tell people where their honeyholes are.

Think on that...

 

[HaleyBaron]

Lol! Same, I did yoga for five years before the pandemic. Most of the women in class were shocked to see a man in the class. The vibe was like you invaded their “female” space. After attending on a constant basis, they realized you‘re not a creep and actually there to workout. The older women were more engaging, the smoking hot young ones always kept to themselves. Check out Wonderlust yoga events, 10 to 1 ratio, women to men. God bless the Lululemon corporation.

This is not a joke, right? Why does it have that name? Why are they showing hot women on the front page? Are they just asking for men to come to this?

"Let's throw all these fit men and women together with some of them hot and some of them not. What can possibly go wrong?"

 

[LTG71]

This is not a joke, right? Why does it have that name? Why are they showing hot women on the front page? Are they just asking for men to come to this?

"Let's throw all these fit men and women together with some of them hot and some of them not. What can possibly go wrong?"

Yup, you basically described it. Here‘s a sample of the hippies in SF.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I have so much I can say about that pic but dont know where to start.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

It always cracks me up how some of you guys always assume that guys who are banging chicks on the regular are either lying about quality or quantity and/or banging warthogs.

One’s experience is never the same as other peoples - just learn to live with it, or continue to delude yourself the choice is yours.

Just because you somehow think you rate better doesn’t make you better.

 

[Velasco]

Was a trend on TikTok called "How I met the people I slept with". Then chicks would list where they'd met the guys they met (hint hint).

 

[SW15]

Was a trend on TikTok called "How I met the people I slept with". Then chicks would list where they'd met the guys they met (hint hint).

That is a big notch count.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Go on a dating app - 90% male

Any Meetup or local group that I’ve tried - over 90% male

Go to a bar - overflowing with guys

Even tried treating myself at a coffee shop - every table in the building was occupied by one male

You see where I’m going with this. I can’t seem to go anywhere to interact with single women that isn’t absolutely swarming with desperate, lonely, and overly aggressive dudes. And I now live in a city that is supposed to have way more women than men. It just doesn’t make sense, and to be honest, it’s really starting to get under my skin. I want to get back into dating, but there’s no realistic way to do this with these kinds of crazy gender ratios. I wholeheartedly believe in what I have to offer, but I need a chance to be able to show that.

Have other people had this experience?

Does anyone have any advice for how to deal with this?

Yoga class 90% women, salsa class 70% women, various extended education courses at colleges 50-65% women.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Yoga class 90% women, salsa class 70% women, various extended education courses at colleges 50-65% women.

I always see salsa and yoga being recommended but I have never once seen a user on this forum post their experiences with actually going to one

 

[SW15]

I always see salsa and yoga being recommended but I have never once seen a user on this forum post their experiences with actually going to one

I'll post my experiences with both.

I took salsa dancing at a few different points in my life. Here is what I've learned....

With salsa dancing, the classes are essentially a loss leader for getting good enough at dancing to have a fighting chance to pick up in a real life venue with salsa dancing. The classes themselves usually won't have the most attrative women or even the youngest women unless it's a semi-unique situation with classes. If you're in college and taking salsa classes as a college extracurricular, you have a fighting chance of it being useful. Most often, it isn't. Also, you're looking at a long time in salsa classes to get your skill set up to the point where you might be in a real life salsa club. Additionally, if you aren't Hispanic/Latino, you'll also want to be fluent or nearly fluent in Spanish to complement the salsa skills. Learning Spanish also takes time if you don't already know it.

Salsa is a real time sink.

As for yoga, I've been in yoga classes a few times when I was at an extreme lack of prospects at a moment. I prefer other styles of fitness classes more, which also have favorable male-female ratios. Yoga women are a bit kooky if they are serious about it. Even with fitness classes having favorable ratios, getting dates from attending them isn't as easy as you might think. There are very narrow windows to approach. You have 5 mins before class and 5 mins after class. That's not much for quantity. Additionally, a lot of women are not very sociable before/after classes. That's true both for men and with other women in terms of female friendships. I have arranged dates at fitness classes but relative to the number of fitness classes that I attended over time, it was an inefficient time sink. The primary reason to go to fitness classes is if you enjoy the exercise style of the class. If you get any dates out of it, consider it a bonus. You can't build a pipeline around fitness classes. You'll likely have to supplement with other approaching venues.