Seemingly every avenue to meet single women is completely dominated in numbers by men. What am I supposed to do?

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Lol! Same, I did yoga for five years before the pandemic. Most of the women in class were shocked to see a man in the class. The vibe was like you invaded their “female” space. After attending on a constant basis, they realized you‘re not a creep and actually there to workout. The older women were more engaging, the smoking hot young ones always kept to themselves. Check out Wonderlust yoga events, 10 to 1 ratio, women to men. God bless the Lululemon corporation.
This is not a joke, right? Why does it have that name? Why are they showing hot women on the front page? Are they just asking for men to come to this?

"Let's throw all these fit men and women together with some of them hot and some of them not. What can possibly go wrong?"

 

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This is not a joke, right? Why does it have that name? Why are they showing hot women on the front page? Are they just asking for men to come to this?

"Let's throw all these fit men and women together with some of them hot and some of them not. What can possibly go wrong?"

Yup, you basically described it. Here‘s a sample of the hippies in SF.

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I have so much I can say about that pic but dont know where to start.
 

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It always cracks me up how some of you guys always assume that guys who are banging chicks on the regular are either lying about quality or quantity and/or banging warthogs.

One’s experience is never the same as other peoples - just learn to live with it, or continue to delude yourself the choice is yours.

Just because you somehow think you rate better doesn’t make you better.
 

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Was a trend on TikTok called "How I met the people I slept with". Then chicks would list where they'd met the guys they met (hint hint).
 

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Go on a dating app - 90% male

Any Meetup or local group that I’ve tried - over 90% male

Go to a bar - overflowing with guys

Even tried treating myself at a coffee shop - every table in the building was occupied by one male

You see where I’m going with this. I can’t seem to go anywhere to interact with single women that isn’t absolutely swarming with desperate, lonely, and overly aggressive dudes. And I now live in a city that is supposed to have way more women than men. It just doesn’t make sense, and to be honest, it’s really starting to get under my skin. I want to get back into dating, but there’s no realistic way to do this with these kinds of crazy gender ratios. I wholeheartedly believe in what I have to offer, but I need a chance to be able to show that.

Have other people had this experience?

Does anyone have any advice for how to deal with this?
Yoga class 90% women, salsa class 70% women, various extended education courses at colleges 50-65% women.
 

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Perhaps British male culture is different but men here would laugh their absolute ass off and roast you alive for a grown man who isn’t either gay or bi to go to yoga or a dance class.
You might get away with a hip hop class or something.
I’m pretty sure the women there would think it’s a bit odd, but if you were a big Spanish dude called Paulo or something then they’d probably dig it.
If you were just a regular anglo Saxon dude it would appear hilarious.
 

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Yoga class 90% women, salsa class 70% women, various extended education courses at colleges 50-65% women.
I always see salsa and yoga being recommended but I have never once seen a user on this forum post their experiences with actually going to one
 

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I always see salsa and yoga being recommended but I have never once seen a user on this forum post their experiences with actually going to one
I'll post my experiences with both.

I took salsa dancing at a few different points in my life. Here is what I've learned....

With salsa dancing, the classes are essentially a loss leader for getting good enough at dancing to have a fighting chance to pick up in a real life venue with salsa dancing. The classes themselves usually won't have the most attrative women or even the youngest women unless it's a semi-unique situation with classes. If you're in college and taking salsa classes as a college extracurricular, you have a fighting chance of it being useful. Most often, it isn't. Also, you're looking at a long time in salsa classes to get your skill set up to the point where you might be in a real life salsa club. Additionally, if you aren't Hispanic/Latino, you'll also want to be fluent or nearly fluent in Spanish to complement the salsa skills. Learning Spanish also takes time if you don't already know it.

Salsa is a real time sink.

As for yoga, I've been in yoga classes a few times when I was at an extreme lack of prospects at a moment. I prefer other styles of fitness classes more, which also have favorable male-female ratios. Yoga women are a bit kooky if they are serious about it. Even with fitness classes having favorable ratios, getting dates from attending them isn't as easy as you might think. There are very narrow windows to approach. You have 5 mins before class and 5 mins after class. That's not much for quantity. Additionally, a lot of women are not very sociable before/after classes. That's true both for men and with other women in terms of female friendships. I have arranged dates at fitness classes but relative to the number of fitness classes that I attended over time, it was an inefficient time sink. The primary reason to go to fitness classes is if you enjoy the exercise style of the class. If you get any dates out of it, consider it a bonus. You can't build a pipeline around fitness classes. You'll likely have to supplement with other approaching venues.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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Wow. Basically that Instagram chick will grab any d1ck near-by. Reminds me of Old where you get MSG's from chicks to come over. It was literally whoever was closest at the time.
 

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Perhaps British male culture is different but men here would laugh their absolute ass off and roast you alive for a grown man who isn’t either gay or bi to go to yoga or a dance class.
You might get away with a hip hop class or something.
I’m pretty sure the women there would think it’s a bit odd, but if you were a big Spanish dude called Paulo or something then they’d probably dig it.
If you were just a regular anglo Saxon dude it would appear hilarious.
Ok but do they also roast the guys who brush their teeth?
 

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I'll post my experiences with both.

I took salsa dancing at a few different points in my life. Here is what I've learned....

With salsa dancing, the classes are essentially a loss leader for getting good enough at dancing to have a fighting chance to pick up in a real life venue with salsa dancing. The classes themselves usually won't have the most attrative women or even the youngest women unless it's a semi-unique situation with classes. If you're in college and taking salsa classes as a college extracurricular, you have a fighting chance of it being useful. Most often, it isn't. Also, you're looking at a long time in salsa classes to get your skill set up to the point where you might be in a real life salsa club. Additionally, if you aren't Hispanic/Latino, you'll also want to be fluent or nearly fluent in Spanish to complement the salsa skills. Learning Spanish also takes time if you don't already know it.

Salsa is a real time sink.

As for yoga, I've been in yoga classes a few times when I was at an extreme lack of prospects at a moment. I prefer other styles of fitness classes more, which also have favorable male-female ratios. Yoga women are a bit kooky if they are serious about it. Even with fitness classes having favorable ratios, getting dates from attending them isn't as easy as you might think. There are very narrow windows to approach. You have 5 mins before class and 5 mins after class. That's not much for quantity. Additionally, a lot of women are not very sociable before/after classes. That's true both for men and with other women in terms of female friendships. I have arranged dates at fitness classes but relative to the number of fitness classes that I attended over time, it was an inefficient time sink. The primary reason to go to fitness classes is if you enjoy the exercise style of the class. If you get any dates out of it, consider it a bonus. You can't build a pipeline around fitness classes. You'll likely have to supplement with other approaching venues.
The yoga/hippie/spiritual women are also a loss leader for men. Either they're damaged or they don't need the D.
 

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Perhaps British male culture is different but men here would laugh their absolute ass off and roast you alive for a grown man who isn’t either gay or bi to go to yoga or a dance class.
You might get away with a hip hop class or something.
I’m pretty sure the women there would think it’s a bit odd, but if you were a big Spanish dude called Paulo or something then they’d probably dig it.
If you were just a regular anglo Saxon dude it would appear hilarious.
I dare a britain to laugh at my face. I am pretty sure they won't. Most of them do not look like they can kill a fly. Don't overestimate yourselves.
 

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The classes themselves usually won't have the most attrative women or even the youngest women
I've always had a feeling salsa would attract mostly 40+ year old women, I don't know a single woman my age who has any interest in dancing. I've noticed this with churchs as well, it's mostly older women and single mums who spent decades riding the carsoul and now are ready to settle down with a Christian beta male.


Yoga women are a bit kooky if they are serious about it. Even with fitness classes having favorable ratios, getting dates from attending them isn't as easy as you might think. There are very narrow windows to approach. You have 5 mins before class and 5 mins after class.
I'm signing up for a yoga class then, and trying my luck. I've been to a few fitness classes at my gym and you are 100% right, there is almost no time to really socialise with anyone. Most people just get in and get out.

Thank you for the right up, I now see why nobody posts field reports of salsa classes or yoga now. If it did work it would turn into a sausage fest anyways
 

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, I now see why nobody posts field reports of salsa classes or yoga now
The most common way the girls in them TikTok videos (the normal ones at least) listed as, where/how they met the guys they'd end up sleeping with, was through mutual friends. Yoga/salsa class was never mentioned. Not once.

So think like a woman. While that chick you have your eyes on in yoga class may not be down to fvck. She may know someone in her circle, whose newly single, and think you're the right kinda guy for her. Leading you to sleep with her with relative ease. Because that's the way she's used to.
I've always had a feeling salsa would attract mostly 40+ year old women, I don't know a single woman my age who has any interest in dancing.
Yeah. And if you were to follow the logic above. That 40 year old in your salsa class, is very likely to friends with other 40-50 year old chicks lol.
 

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The most common way the girls in them TikTok videos (the normal ones at least) listed as, where/how they met the guys they'd end up sleeping with, was through mutual friends. Yoga/salsa class was never mentioned. Not once.

So think like a woman. While that chick you have your eyes on in yoga class may not be down to fvck. She may know someone in her circle, whose newly single, and think you're the right kinda guy for her. Leading you to sleep with her with relative ease. Because that's the way she's used to.

Yeah. And if you were to follow the logic above. That 40 year old in your salsa class, is very likely to friends with other 40-50 year old chicks lol.
gonna give you another example , as I just came back from night gaming ( did not do this since pre Covid )

At the beach during the day it was packed with women . During night , more men than women

women are not hoeing around as much as we like to think

also … for aspiring players there is a crucial test that they have to pass in order to know that they have good fundamentals . The face control at a good club

was staying in the Que and was Shocked on how many people were denied entry for whatever reason ( both men and women )

if you dk not have good enough fundamentals , you will not pass The face control . If you can not enter in a club that has an entry fee , very unlikely to bang anything more than a cave troll

Also , face control usually is done by men . So for sure you can not blame women for the assessment . Much harder on guys than girls , for sure … but it has to be like that otherwise it would be a sausage fest and no one would have a good time
 
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(Continued from my comment above...)

The Top 4, "how I met the people I slept with", responses were:

School
Tinder
Work
Club/Bar

Which shouldn't come to a surprise. Because these are "warm" environments (A venue is deemed "warm", if striking up a conversation with someone you've never met before wouldn't be seen as weird). Club/bar can be weird, if your going to one of them social circle bars. The ones where circles tend to stick to their groups only (not weird however, if your being introduced to a new chick through your mutual friend. And not there to pick up girls outside your circle). Cold approach friendly venues? Not weird. There's just less of them these days.

The advantage School and Work have over Tinder and Clubs/Bar, is that lack of "now or never" pressure (your gonna see her again tomorrow. And the next day. And the week after that etc. aka the time necessary for the familiarity principle to work it's magic). That if you don't strike NOW, your odds of seeing her again are greatly diminished.
 
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I dare a britain to laugh at my face. I am pretty sure they won't. Most of them do not look like they can kill a fly. Don't overestimate yourselves.
OK.

Hahahahahahahaha > Your face.

Now come at me with those deadly yoga and salsa moves.
 

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Ok but do they also roast the guys who brush their teeth?
At least I know if I come to the states, to bond with American men I need good yoga and salsa moves and a good set of veneers + a facial.

How the f did you guys win your independence from us again? I reckon we just left to get away from all this metro shyt!
 

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