StevenR said:
Fine, so you want a "nice" Christian virgin girl to marry, they are probably few and far between but I suppose if you looked really hard you can find one.
That would seem like an ideal scenerio. For the record, I did attract a Christian virgin girl who didn't fvck with my head by going with other people around. However, she was not a kissing virgin as she kissed guys before.
That's ok, I got my first french kiss from her anyway. This was after the AFF thing. This was the first 'test' case of going out with a Christian college student virgin girl. She even had the same last name as the oneitis and felt I was sort of using her as a rebound since the oneitis really turned south.
I even gave her a souviner I bought for my oneitis from Italy, and gave it to her instead. Anyway, she was not as pretty as the oneitis, but she was certainly decent looking.
This one eventually just faded out as I was not romantic enough for her, or chasing her enough. It's like I wasn't either into her enough or was really serious about putting in allot of time into the "relationship" aspect.
She asked me if I loved her by email and it sort of came apart there bit by bit. After that experience, that was the closest I've got to a "relationship".
StevenR said:
The even bigger problem for you is that once you do find one you can't keep her attracted, and this is primarily because of your mommy issues.
I swear that no girl ever rejected me on momma issues or the set-up. It's always because I either made them feel like a hor by something I said, or because it didn't seem I was really into them as I should be.
StevenR said:
He successfully seduced a nice virgin girl and when he got in her panties it got your panties in a bunch too. Based on what you have told us in the past, this is how it would have gone down if you had been in her apartment and not Slickaz
if you didn't get mad at her and call her a hor for suggesting sex when you two were living together, which you might have done and would have ended it right there with her by insulting her, then you would probably say something stupid and psycho like reveal to her that you think your mother is an oracle from God, and you have to have your mothers permission before you can have oral sex with her. You may also start discussing things with her like the fleshlight and your masturbation schedule. Needless to say, it would not take long before this woman realizes that you are completely psycho and she will run away from you and to a guy like Slickaz as fast as she can get her panties back on.
I never got a woman mad by calling her a hor. It's usually more subconcious manifestation by making certain statements. I would never call a woman a hor conciously. The other scenerios you are saying are absurd. I know when I'm shooting myself on the foot. It's the subconcious stuff that comes out the wrong way when you don't intend it to come out that's more of a stickling point.
Furthermore, if a woman offered sex to me, I would not call her a hor. You don't bite the hand that feeds you. This likely wont happen in the first place since I'd likely be talking about religious things rather than sex. When talking about asexual items it really helps ensure there is no mood.
I would not act in the manner you described above. I'd say that I would have allot less motivation than slickaz, because slickaz is a fornicator, while I am not. I'd rather be compared with maxtro and bible_belt since we are on the same page and in general are just looking for a more balanced and happy life or adjustment rather than focusing on conquests.
However, I would feel that situations as portrayed in slickaz's thread will accentuate a latent madonna/hor complex and the black and white thinking that supports that complex. Such situations are also interplayed when you just hear rumours of people, such as in my gym, sleeping with each other, etc.... or whatever. I almost could not talk to a receptionist at the gym because she slept with someone. But when a gay janitor hit on me afterwards, I changed my mind and said she's cool, I'll be more nicer to her next time.
This is what I'm talking about. It's not a concious thing, but a subconcious process.
StvenR said:
From what you have reported, it actually sounds like you have the basic skills to get women, you have made out with several. The reason it doesn't go further is because you either find out that they are hors, or if they are "nice" Christian virgins the above interaction takes place at some point and they run like hell to get away from you.
That interaction does not take place. I just tend to be more asexual or religious because I wouldn't think they are into that stuff, like a hor would.
StevenR said:
If you were making an honest effort, you were an otherwise normal guy, and for some reason women were just not attracted to you, then I would feel for you, but since that isn't the case here, you know what you need to do, even if it involves getting professional help.
I am making an honest effort to talk about 'inner game' issues. This is a side goal of this thread. However, you know what, maybe I have to study with specific 'resentment' issues that most guys seem to have that kills their inner game. I'll be looking at the link I found, and other internet or books that deals with this inner game issue. See a shrink -- I told you I don't have aspergers, I'm nornal.
StevenR said:
Since you refuse to make the drastic attitude and life changes necessary to fix your problem I no longer feel inclined to give you advice, and frankly you deserve to be ridiculed on here. Perhaps the ridicule by others is what you need to finally change. Until then this is probably all you have to look forward to:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=real+dolls+and+the+men+who+love+them&www_google_domain=www.google.com&hl=en&emb=0&aq=2&oq=real+doll#
Hey, I already read all documentaries about that and have a blow-up doll I used once just to imagine being naked in the same room with another woman.
Don't care.
What drastic attitudes and life changes are you talking about? Again nobody makes any sence.
What attitude change are you talking about? What life changes are you talking about? People can not give me advice against my faith, or any godly structure. Can only work around the established boundaries.