prostitution should be legal... shouldn't it?

[d9930380]

Porn is the civilised world's version of prostitution!

But yea I actually agree with Delta. Now don't get me wrong, it's not that I think it's right morally. Personally I'm not even sure if it's any more morally wrong than picking a girl up at a club or shagging her after a first date. Both are just simply ****s with no emotional attachment. Both you are using the girl for sex and see her as nothing but a sex object i.e. love doesn't enter into it. The only difference is that the girl is using you for money, again is this any different than paying for the first date, buying her treats etc.

I love the way - alot of guys who have had numerous one-night stands (probably leaving ALOT of girls with bad impressions of guys in their wake) are "morally" against it, it seems hypocritical and basically what they're saying is. I don't need it so I think it's wrong and I wouldn't pay for it. While prostitution is more straight-forward.

 

[d9930380]

Mission - Your such a wanker. Natural selection has nothing to do with ANY of your arguments including population control. We actually have a declining birth rate in most western countries however that's being offset by immigration from poorer regions to keep our economy from nose diving. Our economy needs a population increase to substain itself. What's actually happening is the smarter/wealthier people aren't having as many kids and the poor are having more and younger (shortening the generation gap causing another reason for a population increase).

I hate to say it but what your getting is the stupid and good looking having kids and the smart and ugly not. The plain stupid and ugly aren't but they never did. That's great if you want a society of Zoolanders walking around however not so great practically speaking.

As for being demeaning to women. Is it anymore demeaning than cleaning toilets for a living? There are alot of ****ty jobs out there, at least this one would pay well. Oh and last but not least, we aren't talking about forced prostitution.

 

[Ace of Flames]

Mission - Your such a wanker.

Sorry, I just found that extremely funny for no reason. Its not even a good line or anything. It does fit the discussion though. Since he won't pay for sex, maybe the only option he's left with is..... yea... lol.

 

[spider_007]

There is notting like a love of a woman - the way she looks up towards you with that butifull smile - like your the only man in her world.

I've slept with over 150 *****s in last 3-4 years, I have yat to buy that.

 

[walletjes]

before i had sex with a prostitute, i had i high level of difficulty of getting girls to have sex with me..i can get them to mess around ..... but now after i was introduced to the 'scene' i have been pulling women left and right and when it comes down to sex there is no nervousness.... when i hit a prostitue i always where a rubber even for the blow job..... such as in amsterdam, for 50 euro you get f&s with a HB10. :yes: It really helps to know you can get ass anytime from a chick hotter than the one you are talking to.

 

[Steg]

Uhh just FYi but few asian countries have (litrely anyway) legalised prostitution. But lets lay of Mission, the man conceded after all

Well if you think it's sad to pay someone to have sex with ( I do but it's IMHO) you how about psyciatrists and interior designers? Those are prety respectable jobs. But end of the day it's just sad that you have to pay people to listen to you and decorate your home so why not the tricks?

 

[walletjes]

btw call girls are legal "so long as there is no exchange of sex for money"
yet you pay for their time.

if anyone in ct area needs one, pm me

 

[BlackJackal]

btw call girls are legal "so long as there is no exchange of sex for money"
yet you pay for their time.
if anyone in ct area needs one, pm me

Which I always believed to be the most retarted and pathetic seeing as it can be an obese chick on the line with a hot voice. You're better off going to a strip club, at least you'll know what you're dealing with.

 

[S1NN3R]

Call girls are not the ones on the other end of 1 900 numbers. A call girl is a (supposedly) high class escort girl, who will do everything from dinner and a movie, straight up sex, or riding in the car with you to make your ex-wife jealous when you see her, all for a pre-agreed amount of money. They're called "call girls" because you have to call them, either from an ambiguously worded personals ad, or from an agency who specialize in that sort of thing. Think of a call girl as a hooker without the street-walking.

 

[BlackJackal]

Call girls are not the ones on the other end of 1 900 numbers. A call girl is a (supposedly) high class escort girl, who will do everything from dinner and a movie, straight up sex, or riding in the car with you to make your ex-wife jealous when you see her, all for a pre-agreed amount of money. They're called "call girls" because you have to call them, either from an ambiguously worded personals ad, or from an agency who specialize in that sort of thing. Think of a call girl as a hooker without the street-walking.

Oh those call girls. Ok I was thinking about those "1 800-Talk dirty to me" girls.

 

[S1NN3R]

I figured you were.....

 

[FatHairyM4F]

There are guys like me who:

See a good looking woman and have no interest at all in talking to her, getting to know her, finding out ANYTHING about her. But just want to get our hands on her as quickly as possible, with as little effort as possible.

See other people, even the people we "like", as a means to an end. Even if its nothing more than they make us feel good, entertain us, etc.

Are loners, and if we didn't get horny, wouldn't care if we never see another human being for the rest of our lives. So we would rather just have sex with a woman and not have to see her again until we get horny again.

don't like challenges, have no interest in playing a "game", and don't like having to concern ourselves with whether women like us AT ALL before they let us touch them.

It's for me, and all the millions of guys in this country like me, that I believe it would be just a humanitarian thing to do to legalize prostitution. Some might ask, "well what about doing something humanitarian for the women, letting them preserve their dignity and not have to lower themselves to servicing you, the least appealing, least attractive men in society?"

To them I say, I look out for #1. If getting what I want means using, belittling, demeaning other human beings, then so be it. There's only room for one in that pine box when we die, no one is going with us. So live only for yourself, as will I, and let us hope that there is no afterlife so that if we can escape this life with little or no consequences for all the evil we do, we're home free.

Thank you.

 

[S1NN3R]

^ Good point. I'm quite a loner myself (I have five numbers in my phone that aren't work or pvssy related). While I do occasionally enjoy the hunt and the game, there are plenty of times that I either don't have the time or inclination to go out and appraoch and build rapport and make plans for a later date, I just want to get my screw on. This isn't all too common, maybe once a month depending on my workload, but on a busy month, I have three jobs come hit me all at once. The graphic design and loan origination jobs generally keep me pretty cooped up and they are very computer oriented jobs, and the other one entails me having to leave the country for a few days, sometimes a week every other month. I get burnt out. Sometimes it would be nice to just toss a bill at a girl and get my needs taken care of and not have to worry about losing my job, going to jail or getting some serious sabertooth crotch critters.

 

[LIME!]

That prostitution is illegal makes me doubt that the patriarchy is really in control.

I use strippers from time to time, which is almost sex. I always know when talking to girls that I can always go see a stripper who is at least as hot. It makes me relax. A lap dance costs me 20 bones and she lets me do everything except penetration. There used to be a "no touching" rule but they relaxed it. God, I love strip clubs!

I know what a hot a.ss feels like, what hot tit.s feel like, and I can honestly say it's no big deal. Hell, some of them even have personality and brains. Any girl I'm talking to had better bring something I can't get from a stripper.

 

[Delta]

yowza,

where do they let you touch?! address please....

the last few posts reminds me of an epiphane i had a while back:

WOMEN ARE SOCIALIZING AGENTS.

there are a great many of us men who would say fvck all to the world and go live in the woods and do whatever pleases us.... if it weren't for the need to get, and keep a woman.

it FORCES men to be ambitious - even though they may have simple tastes. it forces men to compete even though not everyone is inclined. it forces us to CONSUME and pump our cash into "the system".

honestly, as an RAFC, coming from a fullblown, dungeons and dragons/comic book geek background, sometimes i can just care less about all the worldly alpha male stuff... status symbols, confidence, blah blah blah.... i work in computer graphics and enjoy what i do and am great at it, am charming and witty as hell around friends, and in the past have looked at all the posturing, pompous, flexing males and shook my head. self deprecation and humor was always my deal....

but i've come to learn that my way absolutely does not work with women. FACT. i've learned muscles actually have a purpose in the modern world. i've learned that clothing makes a difference. i've finally come to realize that what i drive does matter. i've learned that in many ways, it really does matter what people think of you.

we sacrifice that which seems to come as natural as nature can be... and we conform to men's health, gq masculinity.

ALL THAT... because of women.

(but then again, perhaps the state of the geek is ESSENTIALLY PATHOLOGICAL. a reaction to being ostracized and marginalized by society. and perhaps, the men's health, GQ masculinity is the manifestation of healthy masculinity.... and in all honesty, it probably is. seen in this light, women are the thing that encourages strongly to not live a compromised life. to strive to be healthy and aim for the best....)

----------------------------------------------------------------------

and while i, as the original poster, really want prostitution to be legal, unfortunately, it can never be a true alternative simply because of PRICE... even at a $100 an hour... you can only do that for so long.

although if at whatever point i find out i have 3 days to live... oh man....

alas alas. for the non terminally ill, we need to find another resource of unending snatch.

oh well, on my blackest days, when despair claws at me and threatens to bury me telling me that time is running out and i'll never make it, i think - well, i'm an american citizen.... if worst comes to fvck all worst, cash in my citizenship.

considering the alternative, it's not a bad consolation prize!

delta

 

[englishman]

I agree Delta, I can get laid without to much trouble although I did go through a to long dry spell a while ago, so I needed a holiday and went to thailand, it was fvcking wild, kind of like prostitution but different than here, anyone whos been there knows what im on about....got laid, had a threesome and came home, now im in no hurry, and I got laid a week after being back...fvck the dryspell I say pay if your on a dryspell...

 

[S1NN3R]

and while i, as the original poster, really want prostitution to be legal, unfortunately, it can never be a true alternative simply because of PRICE... even at a $100 an hour... you can only do that for so long.

That depends on how good you are with girls. Some guys can get a girl in bed after an hour of socializing with her, many others aren't so good and have to spend hours and hours on successive dates before they can really play. Depending on how much your time is worth, that might not make sense. It might cost you more on lost time than the $100 would, even if you don't pay for a thing, no dinner, no movies, no coffee, nothing.

For example, I get $50 an hour doing graphic design. So if I spend more than two hours courting a chick before I get her into bed (which is just about my average time investment when I'm playing my A- game, slightly less when I'm at A+), hours that I could have spent getting work done, I've lost out (assuming that the hour with a hooker is $100). Expense isn't just money that comes out of your pocket, if something prevents money from going into your pocket to begin with, you can look at it as costing you that amount. If you make more than that per hour, then it can make even more sense to see a hooker on occasion, such as with loans, I can make over $10,000 with four fours of work invested. You do the math, if I don't get that work done because I'm out scouting for chicks.... And one friend of mine lost his $100,000 year end bonus, because he wasn't doing his job as well as he usually did. The reason, he was infatuated with a girl and spent all of his time going after her. He laid her less than five times in six months.

Just another factor worth considering.... Still not saying that hookers are for everybody, but I don't agree that they aren't for anybody either.

 

[LIME!]

I just asked. While they were on my lap, I asked, "can I touch your ass?", "can I touch your tits?" That seemed to work. One time she let me kiss her ass, then positioned her pu.ssy to my mouth (she was wearing a thong though), then did a dry 69. That only happened once.

Maybe the new meth problem in my area made cops deal with real problems instead of raiding strip clubs. I don't know if this is strickly legal, so I'll keep their anonymity.

Those here who think seeing prostitutes and strippers is shameful have not completely divorced their pride from p.ussy and are still putting it on a pedestal. I don't know if their getting laid more, but they are probably enjoying it less.

 

[Delta]

sinn3r,

but only if my time is always worth....

what i mean: it's what the always say in money books - that time is money... but for most of us that work 9-5 (or 9-12am) jobs, our non work time isn't worth anything in terms of money.

investments work for you whether you're entertaining a chick or watching tv and sleeping so that doesn't apply.
---------------------------------------------------

lime,

good tip...ask!

-------------------------------

brit,

right - my original thesis - that it must've been easier to operate in the old when you don't have to suffer the stench of wilda$$desperation.

delta

 

[S1NN3R]

sinn3r,

but only if my time is always worth....

what i mean: it's what the always say in money books - that time is money... but for most of us that work 9-5 (or 9-12am) jobs, our non work time isn't worth anything in terms of money.

investments work for you whether you're entertaining a chick or watching tv and sleeping so that doesn't apply.

True, but that's why I said it's just another factor worth considering. It won't apply to everyone in every situation, but it should be considered before making a blanket statement like "it can never be a true alternative simply because of PRICE". In some situations for certain people, it could possibly be seen as an even better alternative because of price/cost.

Even more reason that it should be legal and allow the individual to decide what is right for himself.