Picking up girls in bookstores

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
If you were hunting for walleye are you going to go into the forest with a 12 gauge Mossberg?

uhhhhhh maybe?

what are those things?


JPFromTally said:
Never start a coversation with the word "so...."
So why not?
 

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mrRuckus said:
uhhhhhh maybe?

what are those things?




So why not?
A walleye is a fish, a Mossberg is a brand of shotgun. If you want to catch a fish, you wouldn't be in a forest with a gun. You're either hunting for the wrong thing, you're probably in the wrong place and using the wrong tools and the wrong bait.

When sarging you need to understand where you are and the type of women who usually frequent that place. You need to figure out what interest those women (the bait) and approach them effectively. It takes a bit more than just walking up and making a general comment.
 

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that's what i mean though-

what kind of girl do you find at a book store?

i would say that the fact that they are in a book store actually says precious little about them.

i guess they're not illiterate or blind. but that's about it. not necessarily intellectual, not necessarily into reading as a hobby per se (seriously).

so my analogy would be trying to determine the nature of the prey from the environment when the environment is a zoo.

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Delta said:
that's what i mean though-

what kind of girl do you find at a book store?

i would say that the fact that they are in a book store actually says precious little about them.

i guess they're not illiterate or blind. but that's about it. not necessarily intellectual, not necessarily into reading as a hobby per se (seriously).

so my analogy would be trying to determine the nature of the prey from the environment when the environment is a zoo.

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Dude, in what section of store is she? What is she reading? Is she reading the newspaper? Cosmopolitan? Better Homes and Garden? Fortune Magazine? The latest Dr. Phil book? C'mon, doesn't any of those things give you some insight about the woman???
 

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Too often guys project themselves to the outcome, typically them walking away with a telephone number or being rejected. For me I'm in the moment. I'm focused on where I am and what I am doing. Those are the things that I use when engaging women, I don't let the outcome cloud the moment. Attention is given to the environment, the woman and conversation. If it progresses to something more, great. Until then I am in the moment.
not thinking of the outcome is a good advice, that's what i always do and it need to stop.

okay, i'm going to the bookstore tomorrow. got any more good advice guys?
 

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greenlake said:
not thinking of the outcome is a good advice, that's what i always do and it need to stop.

okay, i'm going to the bookstore tomorrow. got any more good advice guys?
Smile and don't forget to say things that that the woman can easily respond to. Nothing esoteric, keep it light and fun. :D
 

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hahah, thanks, don't worry tho, i don't usually talk about something that a girl would have a hard time responding to. to tell u the truth, i don't even know the word esoteric until i look at the dictionary. so i wasn't esoteric to that word. hahah. once again thanks. so what to keep in mind is.......observe carefully especially the book they are reading or the genre aisle where they stand and "nothing esoteric". got it.
 

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yup, i've done about half a dozen approaches in bookstores.

one of the biggest things that lead me to think they have blinders on is the look of SURPRISE that anyone has actually invaded their personal space. i'm not sneaking up on them, they see me, i see them, i go over and open my mouth and it's like deer in headlights - "what's going on? what's happening here?"

so no, questions are not really resolved.

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as for what section they are found at, usually the attractive one aren't actually hanging out in sections. i find them seated, in the cafe or in the magazine racks.

that's what i mean. doesn't give you much to work with.

delta
 

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You know what's funny, I've heard so many times from different girls who I've talked to, that they (girls) go to libraries and bookstores to get picked up! So, I find it interesting that there's a sort of enthusiasm about picking up chicks in these places, and on the other hand the women go there because they know what we are up to. Seriously, I've heard this A LOT.
 

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greenlake said:
hahah, thanks, don't worry tho, i don't usually talk about something that a girl would have a hard time responding to. to tell u the truth, i don't even know the word esoteric until i look at the dictionary. so i wasn't esoteric to that word. hahah. once again thanks. so what to keep in mind is.......observe carefully especially the book they are reading or the genre aisle where they stand and "nothing esoteric". got it.
You got it. I'll add something else which seems obvious but it goes along with being in the moment and not projecting to the end. When you see her don't just take note of what she's reading, notice her. Notice what she's wearing, what she's carrying. You may be able to figure out if she is a student or a working girl. Whether she is she trendy or more eclectic. Is she sitting or standing? It'll tell you whether she is available to chat for a while.

Where is she in the store? Is she in a place where she can be seen and watch other people or is she in a secluded corner behind the stacks of self help books. You're on an intelligence mission, the things that you find out will give you some idea as to how to approach her and what to talk about. Better still, she may catch you studying her and thus notice you too! :up:
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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thanks for the advice francisco. i really appreciate that. wow, u really went into detail, i didn't know all that would play huge a role in a good conversation. i got to keep that in heart so i won't forget. that advice is gold.
 

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I love to sarge in all types of shops, bookshops are one of my favourites, as there are so many HB7-10's in these places, I suggest you pick a target, smile at her, use strong eye contact, then immediately approach her and talk, if it doesn't work the first time, keep on doing it, and you will eventually find a HB to fvck. :yes:
 

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greenlake said:
thanks for the advice francisco. i really appreciate that. wow, u really went into detail, i didn't know all that would play huge a role in a good conversation. i got to keep that in heart so i won't forget. that advice is gold.
The best way to remember these things is to forget about worrying about the outcome of walking away with any type of close, focus on the moment and your surrounding, there's a ton of things to talk about if you take a closer look.

Consider your goal to be approaching and having a good conversation, not too many people will turn that away. If they do, is this actually the type of person you would want to get to know? Yeah, she may look great but if she has a crappy attitude is it really worth your time and effort?

Also, don't you think that you would be able to sarge more confidently with women who are as open and engaging as you? It does make things a heck of a lot easier.
 

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forget about worrying about the outcome

Absolutely, focus on the process and having fun with it. If you enjoy talking to strangers, you'll do it more, making you then get better at it.

No salesperson has 100% success in closing every sale, but the good ones know that rejection is an inherent part of the numbers game. When you get shot down, laugh it off and try again. Every failure is one step closer to success.
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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Bible_Belt said:
forget about worrying about the outcome

Absolutely, focus on the process and having fun with it. If you enjoy talking to strangers, you'll do it more, making you then get better at it...
Absolutely! Definitely have fun being outgoing and engaging. Even try making it a game of stepping outside of your comfort zone, just put yourself out there for your own benefit. With practice you may even make it part of your personality and it will become as natural to you as walking. But like Bible_Belt said, have fun with it!
 

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Espi said:
...I've learned that the confident PUA is not necessarily more or less successful with women...rather, he has a sunny perception of things and thus is not devasted (Like I used to be and still am sometimes) when rejected.
Perception is everything. Contrary to popular belief, the life you live is not based on the experiences that you have, it's based on how you perceive those experiences.
 

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Espi said:
Ha ha! You've been very deep lately, F d' A; spoken like a true Emersonian! :cool:
It just takes a little time for the meds to kick in... ;)
 

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You know, when it comes to intros to strangers, I'm becoming more and more of a fan of a fully honest approach. I think it's more novel and sincere than the trite line, anyway.

Eye contact. Smile. Approach. "I'm sorry, but you're really cute [shift head-half-smile], and I had to say hi. I'm Blue. And you're?"

Get her name, maybe comment on it. Maybe not. Pleasentries.

"So let's see, what are we looking at today..."

If she's not sure, a "Oh, come on! How are we going to find anything if you we don't know what we're looking for!" [smile]

All the while, just exchange info, ask her questions about what she does, that sort of thing. Just don't give her time to think. You probably made her blush a bit with the initial comment, and if you're friendly enough and don't let things get awkward, you should be fine.

Just kind of take over the conversation and go from there. It's no big deal, and make sure you just don't act like it is, either.
 

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heh, things didn't turn out how i wanted it yesterday. yup, no bookstore. we went to a party instead. wasn't ready and was a total afc.
 

If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.

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