Francisco d'Anconia said:If you were hunting for walleye are you going to go into the forest with a 12 gauge Mossberg?
uhhhhhh maybe?
what are those things?
So why not?JPFromTally said:Never start a coversation with the word "so...."
Francisco d'Anconia said:If you were hunting for walleye are you going to go into the forest with a 12 gauge Mossberg?
So why not?JPFromTally said:Never start a coversation with the word "so...."
A walleye is a fish, a Mossberg is a brand of shotgun. If you want to catch a fish, you wouldn't be in a forest with a gun. You're either hunting for the wrong thing, you're probably in the wrong place and using the wrong tools and the wrong bait.mrRuckus said:uhhhhhh maybe?
what are those things?
So why not?
Dude, in what section of store is she? What is she reading? Is she reading the newspaper? Cosmopolitan? Better Homes and Garden? Fortune Magazine? The latest Dr. Phil book? C'mon, doesn't any of those things give you some insight about the woman???Delta said:that's what i mean though-
what kind of girl do you find at a book store?
i would say that the fact that they are in a book store actually says precious little about them.
i guess they're not illiterate or blind. but that's about it. not necessarily intellectual, not necessarily into reading as a hobby per se (seriously).
so my analogy would be trying to determine the nature of the prey from the environment when the environment is a zoo.
delta
not thinking of the outcome is a good advice, that's what i always do and it need to stop.Too often guys project themselves to the outcome, typically them walking away with a telephone number or being rejected. For me I'm in the moment. I'm focused on where I am and what I am doing. Those are the things that I use when engaging women, I don't let the outcome cloud the moment. Attention is given to the environment, the woman and conversation. If it progresses to something more, great. Until then I am in the moment.
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Smile and don't forget to say things that that the woman can easily respond to. Nothing esoteric, keep it light and fun.greenlake said:not thinking of the outcome is a good advice, that's what i always do and it need to stop.
okay, i'm going to the bookstore tomorrow. got any more good advice guys?
You got it. I'll add something else which seems obvious but it goes along with being in the moment and not projecting to the end. When you see her don't just take note of what she's reading, notice her. Notice what she's wearing, what she's carrying. You may be able to figure out if she is a student or a working girl. Whether she is she trendy or more eclectic. Is she sitting or standing? It'll tell you whether she is available to chat for a while.greenlake said:hahah, thanks, don't worry tho, i don't usually talk about something that a girl would have a hard time responding to. to tell u the truth, i don't even know the word esoteric until i look at the dictionary. so i wasn't esoteric to that word. hahah. once again thanks. so what to keep in mind is.......observe carefully especially the book they are reading or the genre aisle where they stand and "nothing esoteric". got it.
The best way to remember these things is to forget about worrying about the outcome of walking away with any type of close, focus on the moment and your surrounding, there's a ton of things to talk about if you take a closer look.greenlake said:thanks for the advice francisco. i really appreciate that. wow, u really went into detail, i didn't know all that would play huge a role in a good conversation. i got to keep that in heart so i won't forget. that advice is gold.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
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Absolutely! Definitely have fun being outgoing and engaging. Even try making it a game of stepping outside of your comfort zone, just put yourself out there for your own benefit. With practice you may even make it part of your personality and it will become as natural to you as walking. But like Bible_Belt said, have fun with it!Bible_Belt said:forget about worrying about the outcome
Absolutely, focus on the process and having fun with it. If you enjoy talking to strangers, you'll do it more, making you then get better at it...
Perception is everything. Contrary to popular belief, the life you live is not based on the experiences that you have, it's based on how you perceive those experiences.Espi said:...I've learned that the confident PUA is not necessarily more or less successful with women...rather, he has a sunny perception of things and thus is not devasted (Like I used to be and still am sometimes) when rejected.
It just takes a little time for the meds to kick in...Espi said:Ha ha! You've been very deep lately, F d' A; spoken like a true Emersonian!