which i think is a great advantagersxtreme said:bookstores=chicks, but again like everyone mentioned they have there blinders on.
Francisco d'Anconia said:If you were hunting for walleye are you going to go into the forest with a 12 gauge Mossberg?
So why not?JPFromTally said:Never start a coversation with the word "so...."
A walleye is a fish, a Mossberg is a brand of shotgun. If you want to catch a fish, you wouldn't be in a forest with a gun. You're either hunting for the wrong thing, you're probably in the wrong place and using the wrong tools and the wrong bait.mrRuckus said:uhhhhhh maybe?
what are those things?
So why not?
Dude, in what section of store is she? What is she reading? Is she reading the newspaper? Cosmopolitan? Better Homes and Garden? Fortune Magazine? The latest Dr. Phil book? C'mon, doesn't any of those things give you some insight about the woman???Delta said:that's what i mean though-
what kind of girl do you find at a book store?
i would say that the fact that they are in a book store actually says precious little about them.
i guess they're not illiterate or blind. but that's about it. not necessarily intellectual, not necessarily into reading as a hobby per se (seriously).
so my analogy would be trying to determine the nature of the prey from the environment when the environment is a zoo.
delta
either way, it doesnt really matter what kind of girl they are, whether intelligent and intellectual or a teenage girl looking at magazines. They all respond to humor, congruence, and confidence. Yes, you may have to alter you're openers a bit, but you're are making this too complex.Delta said:that's what i mean though-
what kind of girl do you find at a book store?
i would say that the fact that they are in a book store actually says precious little about them.
i guess they're not illiterate or blind. but that's about it. not necessarily intellectual, not necessarily into reading as a hobby per se (seriously).
so my analogy would be trying to determine the nature of the prey from the environment when the environment is a zoo.
delta
not thinking of the outcome is a good advice, that's what i always do and it need to stop.Too often guys project themselves to the outcome, typically them walking away with a telephone number or being rejected. For me I'm in the moment. I'm focused on where I am and what I am doing. Those are the things that I use when engaging women, I don't let the outcome cloud the moment. Attention is given to the environment, the woman and conversation. If it progresses to something more, great. Until then I am in the moment.
Smile and don't forget to say things that that the woman can easily respond to. Nothing esoteric, keep it light and fun.greenlake said:not thinking of the outcome is a good advice, that's what i always do and it need to stop.
okay, i'm going to the bookstore tomorrow. got any more good advice guys?
That happened to me twice last night. I approached girls from the side, they saw me coming, yet they STILL jumpeda little bit. This isn't necessarily bad. Actually, it is somewhat good because it jsut gioes to show that girls are not expecting to be approached during the day. It takes alcohol for most guys to have the balls to talk to a woman, so the worst that can happen is the woman rejhects you, but she still sees something unique and different about you.Delta said:yup, i've done about half a dozen approaches in bookstores.
one of the biggest things that lead me to think they have blinders on is the look of SURPRISE that anyone has actually invaded their personal space. i'm not sneaking up on them, they see me, i see them, i go over and open my mouth and it's like deer in headlights - "what's going on? what's happening here?"
There are thousands of things to work with, you are just not seeing them. You can literally just go up and tell the girl you wanted to meet her and then fluff talk about stuff that does not have anything to do with the bookstore you are in. Half a dozen approaches is nothing. I'm not claiming that I've done more, but you need to be relentless. It might take a hundred approaches before you are somewhat comfortable with this. You will start becoming successful when you begin to stop living in your head when you approach and talk to the woman.Delta said:as for what section they are found at, usually the attractive one aren't actually hanging out in sections. i find them seated, in the cafe or in the magazine racks.
that's what i mean. doesn't give you much to work with.
delta
You got it. I'll add something else which seems obvious but it goes along with being in the moment and not projecting to the end. When you see her don't just take note of what she's reading, notice her. Notice what she's wearing, what she's carrying. You may be able to figure out if she is a student or a working girl. Whether she is she trendy or more eclectic. Is she sitting or standing? It'll tell you whether she is available to chat for a while.greenlake said:hahah, thanks, don't worry tho, i don't usually talk about something that a girl would have a hard time responding to. to tell u the truth, i don't even know the word esoteric until i look at the dictionary. so i wasn't esoteric to that word. hahah. once again thanks. so what to keep in mind is.......observe carefully especially the book they are reading or the genre aisle where they stand and "nothing esoteric". got it.
listen to him, he knows whats up:rock:Francisco d'Anconia said:You got it. I'll add something else which seems obvious but it goes along with being in the moment and not projecting to the end. When you see her don't just take note of what she's reading, notice her. Notice what she's wearing, what she's carrying. You may be able to figure out if she is a student or a working girl. Whether she is she trendy or more eclectic. Is she sitting or standing? It'll tell you whether she is available to chat for a while.
Where is she in the store? Is she in a place where she can be seen and watch other people or is she in a secluded corner behind the stacks of self help books. You're on an intelligence mission, the things that you find out will give you some idea as to how to approach her and what to talk about. Better still, she may catch you studying her and thus notice you too!