People Aren't using Tinder to Date or Hookup

[metalwater]

Exactly. I love women. I have no problem with other races, or women overall in general. Women are very easy to understand.

Men, on average, are a huge problem. Men, on average, need to stop being so sh1t and get some standards.

Why do you think women, generally, are so angry at the moment? The omnipotent male weakness is suffocating. "Please stop being so sh1t, men" they are begging.

you have part of it right, and some still to learn. its ok, I wish we had forever to figure sht out but time keeps moving.

Yes, often the men fail in the western market. The reasons are mostly the stuff that is what SS is about.

- self improvement
- dealing with men
- dealing with self
- paying attention to what women do
- haveing balls and making ok decisions

so by your definition, I am a sexpat. I never thought of it like that.

Any man that has been divorced or dumped, has failed. Very simple. I have a lot of company in that group, perhaps even you...

definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and want different results. a wise man will try new things and learn.

western men definitely get a strong SMV boost with some races, some Asian races, some white races, and some blk races. We know that if the man has a much higher SMV that he has a better chance to manage interaction with women. they will help more to make things good, both for short times and long times. we know this.

life has a limit on it in terms of time. perhaps if I work on myself for 10 years I can become a better pick up man than you, assuming you don't also keep getting better. tick tock... tick tock... time running out and we all going to the same place in the end.

or I can get an instant SMV boost and enjoy lots of female attention that I find desirable. right away.

now my friend pan tells me that I am a chump if I go live in a place with hot-looking babes that always want to get closer to me. Pan tells me that I should instead keep trying to improve and fight for skinny white attention. perhaps I will be good at that eventually or not. I have all the Beta skills one could hope for so I fore sure could get divorce raped a few more times if I wanted that.

I know many western men that live in Asia with family and have great lives. Better than similar men in the west. The men are in high demand. Now.. a man still has to know game because all women are like that, but for the man that is aware why the helll would he not want to enjoy a situation with a higher SMV.

Because Pan and his friends and few skinny white women he knows will think bad of me.

 

[Willie Naylor]

you have part of it right, and some still to learn. its ok, I wish we had forever to figure sht out but time keeps moving.

Yes, often the men fail in the western market. The reasons are mostly the stuff that is what SS is about.

- self improvement
- dealing with men
- dealing with self
- paying attention to what women do
- haveing balls and making ok decisions

so by your definition, I am a sexpat. I never thought of it like that.

Any man that has been divorced or dumped, has failed. Very simple. I have a lot of company in that group, perhaps even you...

definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and want different results. a wise man will try new things and learn.

western men definitely get a strong SMV boost with some races, some Asian races, some white races, and some blk races. We know that if the man has a much higher SMV that he has a better chance to manage interaction with women. they will help more to make things good, both for short times and long times. we know this.

life has a limit on it in terms of time. perhaps if I work on myself for 10 years I can become a better pick up man than you, assuming you don't also keep getting better. tick tock... tick tock... time running out and we all going to the same place in the end.

or I can get an instant SMV boost and enjoy lots of female attention that I find desirable. right away.

now my friend pan tells me that I am a chump if I go live in a place with hot-looking babes that always want to get closer to me. Pan tells me that I should instead keep trying to improve and fight for skinny white attention. perhaps I will be good at that eventually or not. I have all the Beta skills one could hope for so I fore sure could get divorce raped a few more times if I wanted that.

I know many western men that live in Asia with family and have great lives. Better than similar men in the west. The men are in high demand. Now.. a man still has to know game because all women are like that, but for the man that is aware why the helll would he not want to enjoy a situation with a higher SMV.

Because Pan and his friends and few skinny white women he knows will think bad of me.

A good friend of mine's wife is from Vietnam. She treats him like a king. And then some.

Another friend's wife is from the Czech Republic. Same thing.

....now compare those women to your typical modern American woman. She loves you to pieces, seems like the perfect girlfriend, and then, she randomly meets someone stronger, bigger, better looking, and starts planning to leave you.

Next day, she gets a promotion at work, and with that comes a sizable raise. She leaves you.

She's been planning her exit for months, so she's already got the d!ck on standby, and a new place to stay.

I mean, at a certain point, enough is enough.

It doesn't make you a weaker man to not want to deal with little Miss Cute Tits' sh!t anymore. It's okay to realize that women from different cultures might offer something more significant and meaningful.

 

[Velasco]

...now compare those women to your typical modern American woman. She loves you to pieces, seems like the perfect girlfriend, and then, she randomly meets someone stronger, bigger, better looking, and starts planning to leave you.

Lets be honest about hypergamy

I listen to a video from Happy Hermit and it got me thinking. A males insatiable sex drive is akin to a females hypergamy. No matter how good the female you have at home you still want to smash the next hot 24 yr old. You can never smash enough hot young perky feminine women. Every man is a...

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[Willie Naylor]

It's a very different mindset. You're looking for permanency and guarantees with women. A married woman who treats you like a king today could call the police on you tomorrow. You know that. I never take a woman's state for granted. They can change on you rapidly.

To enjoy women, you have to be able to think like women. Women are creatures of experience. Enjoy the experience with her. Whether that experience is a day, a week, a year. Nothing lasts forever.

If you are able to approach women for the "experience" and not the future-projection and trying to tie her down, then this is the wave-length to be on in the Western dating market.

If we are looking for marriage and family-creation then the West isn't for us. The downside risks are too huge.

However, if you accept that life is impermanent and nothing lasts forever, then you can start to live in the present and enjoy the moments you have with women without trying to keep her in your life.

Exactly.

So, for the man who wants a stable marriage and to start a family, there's nothing wrong with accepting that the 27 year old white chick with 99,000 Instagram followers isn't the one, and to seek a Japanese, or Czech, woman. Or, whatever other culture.

Doesn't mean he's failed. It just means he's accepted the fact that this is a mountain he can't successfully climb (Western women).

Not a knock on him that he can't successfully climb the mountain. No guy can.

 

[Willie Naylor]

Lets be honest about hypergamy

I listen to a video from Happy Hermit and it got me thinking. A males insatiable sex drive is akin to a females hypergamy. No matter how good the female you have at home you still want to smash the next hot 24 yr old. You can never smash enough hot young perky feminine women. Every man is a...

www.sosuave.net

I get that. I have read somewhere before that, even if she WANTS to cheat, if she's got a good thing with you, she won't.

Wherever I read this even went so far as to say that she could be in her car, driving to the hotel, to fvck this other guy....but she'll realize that she can't risk what she has, and will turn the car around.

I can see both sides. There's always the possibility she will cheat. The modern woman just assumes you'll never in a million years find out about it...so what's the harm?

 

[Willie Naylor]

If that's the goal then I can't argue with that.

I totally agree that the West is totally unsuitable for long term relationships. It's very sad thing for family-oriented guys.

Admittedly, I go back and forth on wanting to settle down vs wanting to just enjoy women for what they are.

 

[Willie Naylor]

It also comes down to her past notch count. If she's high notch, and particularly if she's had her heart broken by an Alpha or 2, then her ability to pair bond is usually ruined. If she's a good manipulator, then she can pretend she's bonding to you. Most guys will be fooled.

So, the guy might not necessarily be sh1t. He may have just failed to screen a damaged woman who is incapable of bonding to any man.

Sounds like my last 3-month fling. She played me like a guitar. Not gonna lie.

She's a queen manipulator.

 

[Velasco]

Lay count is not the determinate of cheating. But history of cheating:

To tie this in with that other thread with the way Lauren is looking up at DiCaprio.... If you recall, Lauren Sanchez was cheating on her husband with Bezos before they broke up. Jeff Bezos should have never married her.