People Aren't using Tinder to Date or Hookup

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I don't like small women. I like tall, thin women. I am only banging slim women, typically at least 5'6. There are plenty of them in Australia.

There's 2 separate issues with banging Asian women that you're not connecting.
Yes, Asian women are slim and feminine and this is a revelation for average simps who have never had a submissive, slim, feminine white woman. I get that.

Here's the big issue. It's how you're perceived by other women (and men) when you select Asian women. This then morphs into how you perceive yourself (negatively).

We can pretend that it all doesn't matter, but you can see the angry personalities of guys here that openly brag about their sexpat lifestyles and it's pretty easy to see that what I write is accurate.
I don't see myself as a sexpat, but maybe.... depending on what that is exactly.

I don't perceive a man that has an Asian woman with him in any negative because of that. So honestly I don't get what you mean. Can you tell more about what it is that you think when you see someone with a good-looking Asian woman?

I don't see it at all how you are telling, but I am interested to understand what you are telling even if I don't agree.

Dumb it down some for me and tell me what you think the issue is if a man decides to have other than a skinny tall white woman?

By default, until I understand better from whatever you tell, it sounds like female logic trying to push a feeling or rationalize perhaps about an Asian woman that caused some pain. Really, don't get it.

As a kid I didn't travel much, so mostly only saw white. The ones I liked always looked like a small Asian, only white. Not many of those around.
 

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Never been to Australia but I imagine Aussie women to be more tanned versions of their British and Irish counterparts. In other words, stocky "peasant-like" build, proneness to obesity, and not the greatest genetic material overall. Still, someone must be banging them...lol.
Also consider sort of the Brit the core gene pool of Aussies descend from...
 

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Sure Whatever you say Mr Goldberg
I'm wondering what the point of all this academic, pontificating talk is. Who cares about all this historical data, evolutionary culture nonsense?

You got looks? Great. Now go get money. Then you get laid.

Who gives a sh!t about the way cultures have been blended over the last 873 years, or why mixed race people tend to do XYZ, or why guys think white women are hot.

Wtf.
 

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I can't relate with any of this. Since breaking up with my LTR in June, I have messed around online with minimal effort. When I actually applied myself with a little online game, I slept with both girls I went on dates with the same night. Keep in mind.....I only went on two dates period. Maybe opened 5-8 girls in the tinder chat. I was really lazy with my approach overall.

That being said, Online dating is NOT the best option for dating. I can say though that it isn't that bad. My suggestion is reflect on what you are doing or your standards and perhaps both. A high value man shouldn't struggle that much to get laid.....honestly. I am making it happen being out of shape with braces.

Before people say anything, the women are gross trailer trash girls either. The girl I saw last week retired at 30 from a good career and has a house in the hills of a gated community. Attractive and well off.
 

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Yeah but what does he want me to do about it? Force ethnic women to stop dating white guys.
You can show some respect and never say that I am incel coping again. I never blamed you for how women behave, but I can blame you for being an entitled d1ck about it.
 

Peace and Quiet

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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You're a smart guy.
yes; as are you.
Look at it logically.
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If banging 3rd world women wasn't deeply shameful, then why would any guy care if they were called a "sexpat"?

They'd be like:

"Yeah bro. I'm a sexpat. I love banging women, I want it to be easy, and so have I gone to live in a country where I'm wanted."

This would be the obvious response if sexpats were actually happy with their decision. But what's actually happening is sexpats appear to get triggered by feelings of failure, rejection, and displacement from their country of birth. It must be upsetting.
I understand your viewpoint on that now. would you want to be called a homewrecker, probably not? but dark horse game with family women results in that. you would find many excuses and rationalizations, but facts are facts. sometimes the stereo-type names don't really help anyone to understand. are you ashamed when a stupid beta leaves his wife and kids because of you, probably not or you would not. The point is I understand that a bad result was not your goal, you simply enjoy the women and don't care. Now carry that idea of to what you're telling about Asians. You see it one way, many ways to see it.

Men don't like being called Sexpats because it is universally known as low-value, especially amongst women. You could say "it doesn't matter what people think", but if you want to get laid and be successful in life then managing other people's perceptions of you does matter a great deal.
I agree that OLDER white women tend to create and propagate the idea that it is bad for a white man to be with an Asian. This logic of yours is not sound because OLDER white women also have the same behavior about younger white women. This is the very classic and old shame technique because they are outclassed (the older white women). Its not about race its about SMV. I guarantee that younger white women don't care if you bang younger Asian unless the white is low SMV. You should know this....

If banging Asian women wasn't shameful, as a white dude, then why do they get so triggered and write tirades about the inferiority of western women, and how western women are all disgusting and fat (which isn't even remotely true). It also projects a hell of a lot of icky self-loathing (assuming the guy is white and is from a white family).
take 500 Asian women at random age 25 till 35, and 500 white from North America and or Oceania.

. Will by an astounding difference in education, fitness, and feminine behavior; in favor of the Asian group.

I am in no way ashamed of being with Asians, I was not ashamed of white or brown either. I was ashamed if the woman behaved badly and I did nothing about it.

I challenge you to rethink this one. I get completely what you think the point is. The group you are thinking about is a very small section of the overall. That small group you are thinking of is exactly like you tell. The much bigger group is not like that. I have seen the 50-year-old man that is 150 kilo and dressed in pajamas, with no money... its sad, that is only a small set.

Let's focus on the common things about all types of women that we can figure out to make our life better. Almost all of the stuff from SS about women applies to Asians and White alike. What's next... girls with red hair are losers ?????
 

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This thread is a good example of why spending too much time online discussing theory is not a good idea.
Thirsty beta virgins will be thirsty beta virgins.

Let them geek it up with each other. After all, their SoSuave time is the highlight of their day...week...month.
 

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It's too complicated for you bro. I suggest another thread or go watch some porn or something.
He's right.

The fact that you're so obsessed with the dynamic between different races, have a weird fixation with Asians, and love to call people sexpats says a lot about you.

I'm not interested in your response to this.

Why? Because I'm better than you.
 

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Asian women are perceived generally as very low value, so if you (a white guy) is seen with Asian women then you will be invariably perceived as a low value beta (because of PC rules, most people won't say it to your face. but they will think it).

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It doesn't matter how you personally perceive Asian women. It matters how society collectively views it if you want to be taken seriously by the opposite sex. It's like having a huge stamp collection, or being a hoarder. People just think it's weird, generally.

The worst thing about targeting Asian, Latina >Insert third world easy girl< is the girls themselves know it's low value. They aren't stupid.
you have had some other good points, so looking to see if something can be learned about this.

why do you think Asian women are low quality? Seriously, I have never heard this before. Did someone tell you or is it something that you just perceive yourself? Don't just tell that it is what ppl think, that's your opinion. Something tangible and objective, what ppl think that and how do you know it?

Is it the color?

If a white woman is born in Asia and identifies as Asian but has white parents but doesn't speak English is she low value?

What is it about an Asian woman that causes the low-value assessment for you?

You claim a moral bias on this and ignore moral bias on topics that most of the world would think you guilty so something is amiss, maybe your just trolling the topic.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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You're defending low-value sexual behavior.

As I said earlier, Sexpats get triggered by the reality of their low-value behavior, and you are proving this yet again.

It's just the way the world is man. Don't shoot the messenger. People will always look down on sex-patting and we can't wish it away unfortunately for you.
Some chick really hurt you earlier in life. It's evident with every post you write.

It was so severe, that it's rendered you incapable of feeling anything but judgement towards anyone.
 

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Some chick really hurt you earlier in life. It's evident with every post you write.

It was so severe, that it's rendered you incapable of feeling anything but judgement towards anyone.
that could be, if he doesn't have a real reason for the opinions, then that is it. there is always a reason for a member.
 

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It's too complicated for you bro. I suggest another thread or go watch some porn or something.
You’re a fraud.Been here just over a year and been through a few personas already.”Psycho Viking rapist” and “recovering sex addict” if I remember correctly.Pathetic.Most people with sense see right through you and your BS.So potent it is that it’s driven some quality members away from the forum.Literally lowering the quality of the place with your presence.Ha.But I’m sure I’m not the first nor will I be the last to call you out on your “knowledge.”Here you are talking about race,like there aren’t hot girls of every ethnicity,trying so hard to come off as some philosopher.Just waiting for the day you spare us your hypocrisy and leave the forum or say something stupid that gets your b!tch ass banned.
 

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If you aren't aware of how society perceives white man/asian female pairings then you need to develop your social awareness man.

This is objective reality.

The man is generally perceived as a sexual failure within his own race, and an outcast. He's also seen as a deviant who fetishizes small, meek women - It's viewed as a huge power imbalance and exploitative. Whether this is true or not doesn't matter. It's just how it is perceived.

If you want to do well with hot women, then you can't go around presenting yourself as a sexpat. This is DJ advice and it's why I'm here. It's not a troll. I'm am constantly baffled by the lifestyle choices and justifications I see here.

Next I'll see a post about how chickens make good girlfriends. I'm sure it's coming.
I do well with women I think are hot. Probably can improve, but I have more options than I can use. If that is a failure, my understanding of the definitions of such words is broken.
 

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Another triggered sexpat.

@metalwater - this is why you don't want to be a sexpat, man. Look at who your friends are! You're with the lowest dregs of society - angry little sexpats who want to ban people who tell the truth.
Sexpat? :lol: :rofl:Alright bud.Let me go get my lube and watch that porn you suggested.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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"Who hurt you?" is the classic femine gaslight.

You're a sexpat. Own it! If it's so great, then why do you care what I think?

Answer: It's not great. And I'm helping other men to see that.
pan, define sexpat. what is it, give enough detail so we can understand how bad it is.
 

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"Who hurt you?" is the classic femine gaslight.

You're a sexpat. Own it! If it's so great, then why do you care what I think?

Answer: It's not great. And I'm helping other men to see that.
No you're not. You just think you are. You misspelled feminine, by the way.

Something is very wrong with the way you see people. You have a technical term for everyone and everything.

Go hug someone. Eat a cookie. Tell someone you love them. Admit that a puppy's cute.

My door's always open if you need to talk.
 

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A Sexpat is a man who fails in the western dating market and starts targeting ethnic women because they are easier and more vulnerable. He will either target them within, or outside his country.

Sexpats then try to pretend that what they do is normal, healthy and even superior to dating within their own races. They actually become bizarrely racist in an inverted way. It manifests in anger and an absolutely noxious personality (as you can see from the Sexpat responses above - you'll start to notice it consistently if you pay attention to it).

The heart of my point is this:

If this is a forum about getting better with women, then men who engage in low-value targeting of 3rd world women should be roundly condemned. I criticize guys who bang fat chicks too. It all leads to inner-Game self destruction.
ok, so the issue you see is with the man, not the Asian woman.

meaning if you saw an Asian you thought is hot and wanted to date it would be ok because your not a failure.

to be a sexpat means to you that the man failed in the western market.

do I have it right?
 

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What does eating cookies or cute puppies have to do with targeting 3rd world women and pretending it's cool?

I'm talking about objectively low value behavior that should be discouraged on a self-improvement forum. It's not that complicated bro.
There you go, redirecting again.

Your profile says you're 34. It's not too late to seek the counsel of a licensed therapist.

You judge and label others as a defense mechanism. You're afraid that, if you show a human side, you'll get hurt again.

You have the emotional equivalent of a Napoleon Complex.

The sooner you recognize this, the sooner you can begin to heal.
 

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Haha and then she suggests "therapy".

She even went out of her way to call herself Family Man to throw you off the scent.
It's okay. Let it out. Let it out.
 
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