people are good

[Gerard-890]

This conversation may need around 15 more pages. But we must not confuse the context and thesis of the thread, "most people are good."

The thesis implies that majority of people aren't trying to steal, corrupt, or destroy your life, majorityyy but not all. I can't really give a percentage, but let's say that 70% of people are good, and 30% of people in the world are trying to steal, corrupt, destroy.

One of the problems we have here guys, is that the 30% of people who are "bad" in this sense, contain what is known as "leader characteristics" or "mass influence characteristics," and a number of the 70% of "good" people tend be be brainwashed or can be lead astray.

In this sense, WHILE JoeKerr is right about majority of people (70%) are good, he can also be incorrect due a high percentage of the 70% being easily brainwashed, influenced, and lead astray by the 30%.

Take a look at situations in the world or even from some books. Let's say majority of the 70% are sheeps, majority of the 30% are wolfs. A number of the sheep all FOLLOW the 1 WOLF!! In this situation, we don't NEED majority of the people to be "bad" because that 1 WOLF HAS ENOUGH INFLUENCE.

This is the problem, the "bad" people typically influence a high percentage of the "good" people, and in trying to "do good for themselves and their families" many times "good" people BECOME like the wolves.

LOL for example, look in the world of business?

We can sum up that majority of sales people are good correct, let's say 70% aren't trying to rip you off. But what about the 30%?

Most times, it's the 30% of sales people who OWN the companies or MANAGE the companies, influencing their sales forces to use embedded "manipulation tactics" to make customers buy things they don't need and what actually leaves them worse off then they were. Many of the sales people don't even realize they are doing this, they are just "following the script" of their managers, who are just following the "script" of the owners.

So in this case, you might have 4 owners of a company of 200 sales people. Those 200 sales people are for the fact of the matter "good," but it's those 4 owners that have MADE them bad through INFLUENCE.

 

[feelingloved]

Evil people take advantage of good people. Crime seems to give an advantage. That upper hand, however, comes at a cost.
Evil people will knock off good people and other evil people. While good people will not knock off each other, they will knock off evil people. So good people must be vigilant against only evil. Evil-doers are targeted by everyone, both good and evil. Ultimately, there is no honor among thieves.

 

[STR8UP]

So in this case, you might have 4 owners of a company of 200 sales people. Those 200 sales people are for the fact of the matter "good," but it's those 4 owners that have MADE them bad through INFLUENCE.

Here we go again.....the guy at the top is the "evil" one pulling everyone elses strings.

Ain't buyin it man.

And people sell you sh!t you don't need every day. Doesn't make them evil. They are looking to make a paycheck to provide for themselves and their families. And this includes the owners and managers.

WAKE UP.

 

[Gerard-890]

Str8up you don't really need to buy it (believe it), but it's present .

Again going back to my argument, wouldn't you say the US soliders are good? But who's pulling their strings?

And it's true that we all have to provide for our families and there's no disputing that fact, but the people (selling things that people don't need or actually hurt customers) are doing so out of another option to OTHER methods of providing for their families that they could also use, like what "bad" people would do sort of: stealing, robbing, and taking from other people.

If the basic need is just "survival" why won't the people just rob others? Well it's because they in a sense aren't "bad people," have choose an option of providing a service instead.

The "bad" I'm speaking of is more of a subtle "bad" rather than a blatant "bad." It's blatantly "bad" to rob and steal, the bad people that JoeKerr talk about do that. But to setup a corporation and hire people, without certain information but only give other types of information to brainwash employees that they are doing a "good" when they are doing a "bad," is JUST as bad sometimes but it's an example of the WOLF leading the sheep astray.