"Open the door or Take me back to my car"

[Bluntmaster]

Blunt, I will say, you have made a lot of good strides in the past 6 months or so in regards to women and your overall life. You seem much less OCD and you have stopped wasting your life on meaningless endeavors....and women. And your advice on the boards is much more insightful. Congrats on your progress.

I bought her flowers too, and I did that BEFORE I banged her. I didn't care, I wanted to do it. That's all that matters. It worked out in the end.

 

[SoldMySoul]

I bought her flowers too, and I did that BEFORE I banged her. I didn't care, I wanted to do it. That's all that matters. It worked out in the end.

Man, do your thing!!! If it feels good and the lady appreciates (that is a big if) Then what you are doing is cool with me. I mean you cannot be a harda$$ all the time.

If you are getting 100 percent from woman and giving as much, then all is good in the hood. This is ONLY if you want to keep and want a LTR.

 

[jophil28]

I bought her flowers too, and I did that BEFORE I banged her. I didn't care, I wanted to do it. That's all that matters. It worked out in the end.

ON the subject of giving flowers....NEVER give her flowers when she is pissed with you. Allow her emotions to just wash through.. they always do.
IF you deliver those long stem roses to her office the day after a drama, you are telling her that creating drama = her getting flowers.

 

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Blaaaah "cougar" ... what a joke. Whatever happened to "old lady"?

Another fail by amoka. Safe to say if 40 somethings are giving you grief your doing it wrong.
Seeing as you seem to have this recurring theme of creating unnecessary drama and hostile environments with these birds, why not go all out and give yourself a laugh in the process?

Old bird: Would you open a door for me?

You: Would you regurlarly make me sandwiches, hold sacred the idea of the family unit and know your place as a woman?

Actually, if you had of said something like that with half a smirk none of this would have happened.

 

[teacha]

This was another epic fail for the OP. The woman left. How could this not be an epic fail?

how is that an epic fail? is it because maybe you see getting laid as an achievement? getting laid and being successful with women are two entirely different things.

He just dodged a bullet there. All the woman was trying to do was trying to figure if he can compromise his principles just to get laid by giving him an ultimatum. This woman is freaking 40+years old but still acting like a teenager giving him stupid ultmatums so that she can feel special again. First this, whats next? Telling him its over if he ever left the toilet seat up? Its funny how this site teaches men not to give ultimatums to women but sees nothing wrong with it when a woman does it and to make matters worse, the guy is at fault if he does not comply. Fvck societal conditioning.

It is. The girl never asked him to open the door for her at first, she just asked WOULD he. Really? You guys need to show you're all manly men by refusing to even consider the option of opening a door for your date? Your gf? You wife? Are you guys really that angry at women? Absolutely nothing wrong with opening a car door for your date. NOTHING.

Now, once he responded with a no, (which imo was a **** thing to do) then she came back with her responses and escalated, which is her fault. So they both did wrong here. But if he would have simply come back with a c/f answer to her first question, all the while maintaining his manliness while also satisfying her, they both could have been winners that night instead of both going home angry over something so trivial.

I understand some of you guys are willing to compromise your principles just to get some but not everyone is like that so stop with the shaming tactics already. maybe she shouldn't have asked the question in the first place if she didn't like the answer besides chilvary is outdated and has no place in today's world.

Fvck being C&F, she was just being a bitch about it....as they say, 'If she wants to be a bitch, the dog is coming out to play.':trouble:

 

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how is that an epic fail? is it because maybe you see getting laid as an achievement? getting laid and being successful with women are two entirely different things.

It's a fail because his goal was to take her back to his place. The rest is conjecture and hearsay.

He just dodged a bullet there.

He didnt dodge sh!t, he phucked himself in the ass because he was not equipped to play her crap back at her and disarm her ingrained entitlement ideas.

 

[f283000]

"how nice it is of him to open the door for her". I said "good for him." Then she said, "would you do that for me?".

I would have said, "i feel like eating lasagna, would you cook that for me?"

 

[jophil28]

It's a fail because his goal was to take her back to his place. The rest is conjecture and hearsay.


He didnt dodge sh!t, he phucked himself in the ass because he was not equipped to play her crap back at her and disarm her ingrained entitlement ideas.

Yep.

 

[cordoncordon]

I understand some of you guys are willing to compromise your principles just to get some but not everyone is like that so stop with the shaming tactics already. maybe she shouldn't have asked the question in the first place if she didn't like the answer besides chilvary is outdated and has no place in today's world.

Fvck being C&F, she was just being a bitch about it....as they say, 'If she wants to be a bitch, the dog is coming out to play.':trouble:

Chivalry is outdated and has no place in today's world you say? That is an idiotic statement. That my friend is exactly the kind of attitude that exemplifies what IS wrong with the world today. People have no morals, no sense of common decency. All they care about is getting laid, getting wasted, watching the next TV reality show. I call it the dumbing down of America, and for the Powers that be (mainly the Fed Reserve and Old time bankers) it fits right into what they want.

Keep being the way you are, and I'll keep being the way I am. As for compromising my principals to get laid, I've Fvcked more girls than I can count, have had my gf's than I can count, and am in very happy 1.5 year relationship. Trust me I'm doing fine. By the way I see you use your local as Wall Street. I am a professional day trader, make mid 6 figures on average doing it, and have posted a few threads about some stock picks over on the anything else section, you are more than welcome to join in.

 

[teacha]

It's a fail because his goal was to take her back to his place. The rest is conjecture and hearsay.

maybe to the rest of you guys he did but i fail to see the part where he actually failed.like i said earlier, i don't see getting laid as an achievement to anything in life.

He didnt dodge sh!t, he phucked himself in the ass because he was not equipped to play her crap back at her and disarm her ingrained entitlement ideas.

he dodged being in a potential relationship with someone who has no true interest in him. i mean all she really wanted was a gentleman, not him. Sure you can 'disarm' her and all that with your awesome jedi skills or pretend to be a gentleman but i wonder if she's really worth all that shit. Now i dunno about you but im certainly not gonna waste my time with someone who is clearly not into me just to put another notch on my bedpost when i got other women to mess around with.

 

[Tiguere]

one thing negative about this site is that sometimes people take it too seriously and c0ckblock themselves.

 

[bukowski_merit]

he dodged being in a potential relationship with someone who has no true interest in him. i mean all she really wanted was a gentleman, not him. Sure you can 'disarm' her and all that with your awesome jedi skills but i wonder if she's really worth all that shit. Now i dunno about you but im certainly not gonna waste my time with someone who is clearly not into me just to put another notch on my bedpost when i got other women to mess around with.

So, to you - a woman sh!t testing a man means she has no true interest in him??? A woman asking you if you'd open her car door for her is a woman who is clearly not interested in someone?

Well d@mn.... I've never had a woman interested in me in my whole life.

WTF? Seriously? You need your head checked if you believe that.


This is a basic sh!t test. Nothing more.


I can see one of you tough guys getting ready to eat dinner with a woman and this happening:
Woman: Hey, can you hand me that napkin?
Tough Guy: No, i won't hand you the napkin because you asked for it.
Woman: Are you serious? Can you just hand it to me.
Tough Guy: (gets up out of the seat and throws his napkin at the woman) There's your fvcking napkin. I now know you have no interest in me... So, I'm out of here!!!! (stomps off like a 2 year old)....


He failed because he allowed it to become a game. She failed because she allowed it to become a game.

Both are too busy trying to win to enjoy the moment.....

Next time - quit worrying about being so damn "alpha"!

 

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maybe to the rest of you guys he did but i fail to see the part where he actually failed.

It's not a hard concept to comprehend, if I have the intent purpose to do something and I fail to do that particular something then I have failed.
fail.ure
n
1.The condition or fact of not achieving the desired end or ends.
2.The act or fact of failing to pass a course, test, or assignment.

i don't see getting laid as an achievement to anything in life.

Thats neither here nor there. I've already responded to this.

he dodged being in a potential relationship with someone who has no true interest in him.

And you know this how? Sounds like your grasping at straws now.

 

[SoldMySoul]

maybe to the rest of you guys he did but i fail to see the part where he actually failed.like i said earlier, i don't see getting laid as an achievement to anything in life.

I am with Cord, T I T S and Blunt on this one. It was an epic fail because he set out to hit the "cougar" and did not accomplish his goal which equates to FAIL!!!!

Chivalry is outdated and has no place in today's world you say? That is an idiotic statement. That my friend is exactly the kind of attitude that exemplifies what IS wrong with the world today. People have no morals, no sense of common decency. All they care about is getting laid, getting wasted, watching the next TV reality show. I call it the dumbing down of America, and for the Powers that be (mainly the Fed Reserve and Old time bankers) it fits right into what they want.

Keep being the way you are, and I'll keep being the way I am. As for compromising my principals to get laid, I've Fvcked more girls than I can count, have had my gf's than I can count, and am in very happy 1.5 year relationship. Trust me I'm doing fine. By the way I see you use your local as Wall Street. I am a professional day trader, make mid 6 figures on average doing it, and have posted a few threads about some stock picks over on the anything else section, you are more than welcome to join in.

I like what you are working with!!!!! You hit the nail right on the head. Being a DJ does not mean being a $hit head all the time. Chivalry is the appropriate thing to do and does not diminish ones game. Quite the contrary; I think it makes your game that much tighter. Leave them better than you found is what Neil Strauss would say and I love that saying!

People today are so self absorbed and selfish. They have forgotten the golden rule of treat others like you want to be treated. I have done my share of bytching about women on here, but my core still appreciates the ones that have a solid base and know how to treat others.

 

[squirrels]

You protest way too much.

If you didn't wanna do it, you could've played it off like Zekko said. You instead decided to make a major issue of it. That's why she pressed you and it came to a head like that.

There's a middle-ground between obsequious and objectionable. You need to find it.

 

[Bluntmaster]

I would have just said "OK I'll open the door but you are lucky I'm such a gentleman" and then winked at her and open the door with a swagger.

I would have proceeded to take her to my bedroom and bang the hell out of her.

 

[SoldMySoul]

I would have just said "OK I'll open the door but you are lucky I'm such a gentleman" and then winked at her and open the door with a swagger.

I would have proceeded to take her to my bedroom and bang the hell out of her.

Yep and that sir is how I would have done it as well!!!

 

[cordoncordon]

Yep and that sir is how I would have done it as well!!!

It absolutely kills me how so many guys are on this site for 2 reasons. Either to get laid more, or to have a better relationship with their future gf's and wives. And yet so many of these same guys treat women like the enemy. Makes absolutely no sense. If you hate women so much....go with the gay!!!

 

[Jeffst1980]

You came off as though you were trying to prove a point to her, instead of laughing it off. So, in that respect, you could've done things differently.

But, the fact that her reaction was so demanding and inflexible suggests that she would be a poor choice of a partner anyway, so there isn't much of a loss here.

 

[SoldMySoul]

It absolutely kills me how so many guys are on this site for 2 reasons. Either to get laid more, or to have a better relationship with their future gf's and wives. And yet so many of these same guys treat women like the enemy. Makes absolutely no sense. If you hate women so much....go with the gay!!!

The thing is hard enough as it is. Why make it harder? The difference between a good date and a bad one. When the date is or has the chance to go well, why would you step on your d i c k? Makes no sense. At least give her a chance. I understand what he was saying about the entitlement, but was this one acting that way? More I think about, I would say no. She was projecting what she liked.... Take the lead and if you listen, these woman will give you hints. Hard enough trying to read most of them, but if they give you freebies, capitalize on that $hit.

At times, I have come across as negative towards women and lump them altogether. But there are good ones out there.