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So its wrong for me to be suspicious of a department with a history of corruption? A smart person would scrutinize both sides in this case. Why so quick to drink the blue koolaid given all the bs that's been going on with law enforcement in the USA?
 

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Jaylan said:
*yawn* I knew I was wasting my time responded to Peaks. Considering he gets his news from Hannity and finds the dude at all credible should have told me Id be debating with another wall here.
Look for yourself, I checked out your link(s), check out mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHHRVv293U0
 

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Some of you guys are missing the point here.

You can't compare Treyvon Martin to this case because it is totally different.

George Zimmerman was not a cop and was told not to follow Martin until the cops arrived. He ignored the instructions and decided to go out on foot to confront him. That is an altercation between two citizens where if Martin felt threatened he can defend himself as well as Zimmerman. It doesn't matter if Martin was a thug or up to no good, when you're being confronted by another man you should expect an altercation to happen or turn violent when there are guns involved.

Now with this case, common sense tells you that if you get into a fight or have an altercation with a cop, there is a good chance you will get shot when the cop feels his life is being threatened by the indivudual even if the individual did not start the altercation.

The robbery did not end the man's life, so that doesn't matter, the altercation is what did.

Any cop has the right to question anybody regardless of color if they look suspicious walking in the neighborhood under the community police program.

When there is reported robbery, or if a person matches a suspects description, a cop will confront that person (or persons) because that's his job.

Yes, there are mistaken identities and bad cops, but when you are fighting them, odds are you are going to get shot like what happened here. When you get into an altercation with a cop, chances are things are not going to end well no matter if you are innocent or not.



Peaks&Valleys said:
Why does everyone of your posts have to be 8 Million words?

Drugs?
:crackup:

Well, sometimes when I'm replying to ignorant people such as yourself, I have to use more words so you can finally comprehend what you fully didn't understand the first time. :yes:

You should remember the "Public Pissing" thread where your ignorance was on full display in that one. You supported that along with men streaking at outdoor venues at sporting events.

Who gives a sh1t how many words there are. Do you count the words in an author's book or an article questioning the number of words?

Why are you still posting here? You made a thread a few months back stating that you were never posting here again. That one got deleted though.


Fatal Jay said:
For real, the only dude on here written novels and no one is taking the time to read it.
A lot better than your paragraphs of your bvllsh1t comments saying a black man can't be a racist.


Peaks&Valleys said:
Fox news and Hannity killing it tonight. Anyone interested in this story should be checking it out.
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Well that figures you watch FOX News because of your ignorance. Sean Hannity, the guy who still supports bush after he said he wouldn't if there were no WMD's found. The same guy who believes in Voter ID Laws for others, but doesn't want it for himself.


There was a poll conducted that shows FOX News Viewers are less intelligent and more misinformed than people who don't watch any news at all.

You're another guy who sits around watching the talking heads on TV giving you biased news. You guys watch FOX, MSNBC and believe everything they tell you. Most of it is false and not even accurate and you people take it as gospel. Get you news from good independent sources without the spin. Those talking heads are being paid millions of dollars to get you to fall in line with their thinking.


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I never said that didn't, but sh*t like that is extremely rare. You don't have black gang members sitting around talking about, "Let go find some white people to f*ck up today."

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Yeah, so those black thugs who jump white dudes for fun and beat them up posting the videos online didn't premeditate that? I'm sure you will make some lame ass excuse for that saying the white dudes "just happened to be there at the wrong time".

Seriously Rex, you are a defender, an apologist, and a sympathizer for blacks no matter what they do. Any racist or violent act they commit, you have some lame excuse for it trying to downplay it saying "it's rare" or that whites do it more or worse. It doesn't matter man, blacks are still doing the act which makes it racist in which you refuse to admit they do. I don't want to label you, but racists always defend and refuse to admit of any wrong doings, they always try to justify it even when it's wrong.

There are racists that come in every color, you refuse to admit that. You are always going to disagree with me no mater what on everything.

You refuse to admit that Democrats help to uplift blacks and that all the programs greatly benefited them over the years.

You can't just initiate a program solely for only one specific race, because that would be discrimination. Everybody is included under the program, but it was mainly targeted for blacks because black congressmen worked on the legislation to get it written and passed. Who do you think they were trying to help out dude?

You want to be technical arguing with me over stupid sh1t. As long as 1 black was helped, he was lifted up by a Democrat and the program benefited him. That is something YOU can't deny. Without the Democrats help, nothing would have been accomplished, civil rights or any of the programs active today.

What about all the inner city youth and after school programs targeted for blacks to help them? What about all the free lunches they receive at school? The programs to get black kids out of gangs and to deter them from joining? Health clinics for the poorest people. Those are programs designed to help blacks initiated by Democrats in which Republicans are trying to eliminate. You can't deny that either.

You confuse me Rex, you call whites racist for doing the same thing as blacks do, but you condone the racist acts that blacks do, you refuse to recognize all the programs that benefited them, but then you support Voter ID Laws that discriminate them in which I'm against.

It's a waste of time trying to have a conversation with you because you are too closed minded about everything. I think you know the truth but don't want to admit it. You try to argue technicalities here, you can't do that because you will always be wrong.

I suggest you do some research on the internet, look at the some of the polls that show how people believe that blacks are more racist than whites, the race hate crimes that some blacks commit against whites and other races, and the programs that help lifted them up.

Also, contact Congressman John Lewis in the 5th District of Fulton County, GA and ask him what Democrats did to lift up blacks, how the programs helped them, how the Voter ID Law discriminates, and if he believes there are no racist blacks in this country. He will set you straight dude, and will give you a good education. Maybe you will come back with a different frame of mind and will finally be reasonable about things.
 

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rascal99v said:
You should remember the "Public Pissing" thread where your ignorance was on full display in that one.
As I recall, no one really agreed with you. How is it my ignorance was on full display? Because you say so and cannot comprehend what are posters are telling you?

Is this Golden Goose/TARKUS/asa_don?

You supported that along with men streaking at outdoor venues at sporting events.
Did I "support" that? Still twisting words as usual. What I supported was them NOT being put on the SEX OFFENDER list. <-----This little statement was the whole POINT of the article, and something that was pointed out to you by a few of the other posters as well. Something you STILL do not understand.

Who gives a sh1t how many words there are. Do you count the words in an author's book or an article questioning the number of words?
The more you talk, the more I think you even confuse yourself. FYI: most people don't come on here to read a "book".
 

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Again, the bum rush story is not proven and should not be accepted without scrutiny when dealing with a PD with a reputation for clear corruption.
 

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^Fact of the matter is that there are counter-points to everything you said in numerous news articles. All we can do now is wait for trial. Ive done enough debating on this, and Im not about to spend another pages on end doing the same thing.

You arent looking at this situation anymore objectively than anyone else. Hence why people have different interpretations of the different autopsy reports that have come out.

Like I said, people shouldnt be rushing to drink the blue koolaid from the glass of a PD with a history of corruption. Its not beneath them to be brutal to citizens, twist facts, create lies, and falsify reports (theyve done it before and an innocent man was almost thrown in prison). So let's see what happens in court.
 
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Its possible for those angles if someone is surrendering and and takes a shot to the head as their body reacts to previous bullet damage. If a big guy like Mike Brown is already leaning forward and his head is not straight, its entirely possibly for a shot to hit him in his eye, and then if he was already started to fall forward because of the damage he took from multiple shots, that he could be hit in the top of the head by a bullet.

All I know is court will be interesting. Because I would like to see how the officer's defense team explains how a 6'4 man is shot in the top of the head by a 5'9 officer during an alleged bum-rush...while also having shots line up all down his right arm, hand, and shoulder. How does a person in a wild bum rush get shot in such a manner?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/michael-brown-shooting-harrowing-video-4072685

Numerous eye witnesses say the officer was grabbing at Brown, and that once he got free and ran, the officer shot at him while chasing. Then Brown decided to stop and surrender after he noticed he was being shot at, and then the officer shot him dead.

Numerous witnesses say this is what happened. Let's see what happens in court. People where arguing to high hell about ballistics in the Michael Dunn trial, and that dude ended up going to jail for life thanks to eyewitness testimony. So let's wait and see.
 

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And exactly how did the cop get a broken face? Is there a conspiracy theory for that one?

Break a cop's face = get shot. I think that rule transcends race.
 

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Julian Cummings CNN @JulianCummings

Wilson was taken to the hospital after the shooting. He had xrays which came back negative. He was treated for a swollen face.


Fine, beat a cop in the face until his face swells up = get shot. I think that rule transcends race, too.
 

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Danger said:
See this is the part which I don't understand.

How does a guy get shot in the eye, and his head goes forward? It could happen, given the scenario you mention, but there would be pre-requisites which do not make sense.

The bullet entered his right eye, and left through his lower right-jaw, per the autopsy. That would mean the cop would have to have been standing right over him. And that would also mean that Brown was on his knees. If that is the case, how did all of the bullets get into his arm? It just doesn't add up. I can't see any manner in which all of these bullets hit him the way they did, unless the Officer's version is accurate.
Shots to the arm > body slumping forward because of damage done by shots to the arm > thus those shots to the head.

Pretty simple and ties into what witnesses described happened (Brown turning around and then surrendering before being shot)
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Julian Cummings CNN @JulianCummings

Wilson was taken to the hospital after the shooting. He had xrays which came back negative. He was treated for a swollen face.


Fine, beat a cop in the face until his face swells up = get shot. I think that rule transcends race, too.
Uh huh, and he could have bruised his face during his struggle trying to pull at Brown through his window. And him grabbing at Brown, and Brown escaping and running away has been corroborated by numerous witnesses.
 

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Uh huh, and he could have bruised his face during his struggle trying to pull at Brown through his window. And him grabbing at Brown, and Brown escaping and running away has been corroborated by numerous witnesses.

If a cop grabs you, and you pull away so suddenly that he mashes his face up, then that's felony battery on a police officer. And that's the starting point, here, before the rest of the facts come in.

I don't especially like cops, but I know if I fvck with them, they will shoot me, even though I'm white. And I'm fine with that. I think that's a good rule. Fvck up a cop = get shot.
 

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Black cop kills unarmed white, media hide race

What happens when the roles are reversed except there seems to be no evidence yet the victim even did anything wrong.

http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/black-cop-kills-white-man-media-hide-race/

While national news media continue to focus on race in Ferguson, Missouri, where a white police officer shot and killed an unarmed black teenager, they apparently don’t think a similar case in Utah with the races reversed is that newsworthy.

Police in Salt Lake City are continuing their probe into an Aug. 11 shooting outside a 7-Eleven convenience store, when a black police officer, whom local media are referring to as “not white,” shot and killed 20-year-old Dillon Taylor, who was unarmed at the time, according to his supporters.



The Taylor case was examined Wednesday by talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh, who said, “Note the similarities to the Michael Brown story [in Missouri], except in this case there’s no evidence the victim actually committed a crime.”

He noted Taylor “didn’t resist. He didn’t hit the cop. He didn’t try to flee and yet he was shot dead.”

He also pointed out how most news accounts did not specify the race of the police officer who killed Taylor.

“They are referring to the officer as ‘other-than-white,’ which reminds me of George Zimmerman becoming only the second-known white Hispanic, a title given by the New York Times.”

“They can’t wait to mention the racial aspects in St. Louis,” Limbaugh continued. “They don’t talk about the racial aspects in [the shootings in] Chicago, and there aren’t any racial aspects here in Salt Lake City.”


There’s a mindset out there, and the way it works in situations like this [is] only people of color can be victims. A white person can never be a victim. It just can’t happen. That’s not permitted, that’s not allowed because it isn’t the case. The whites are the oppressors. They’re the majority. In the liberal worldview, every majority is an oppressor, whether they’re white or whatever. They’re all oppressors. The minority is always the victims, and the victims are with whom we should always sympathize, no matter what. And the victims are permitted to do anything precisely because they’re a minority, and I’m talking about in numbers, not skin color. They’re outnumbered. The evil majority does horrible things to the minority. And so the minorities, be it skin color or numbers … [are] always victims. And so anything they do is justified and we must try to understand the rage.

“But in the current climate in the United States, a black person can never be the oppressor and a white can never be the victim. And that’s how you have a corrupt or perverted news business in Salt Lake City, refusing to identify a black cop who may have shot an innocent person. That destroys the whole picture we’ve been creating here for centuries. That could totally destroy the image that we’ve been trying to concoct. Oh man that could blow it sky high; that’s just not supposed to happen. And so they come up with these things to hide it or to not reference it at all.”

Taylor’s aunt, Gina Thayne, told the Deseret News that police know they “killed an innocent kid.”

“If in fact they actually produce a tape, it will show exactly what happened,” Thayne said. “It will come out eventually. It will never bring Dillon back, though.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/black-cop-kills-white-man-media-hide-race/#z62VOK8FRt57Sf6S.99
 

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speed dawg said:
http://m.sfgate.com/news/crime/arti...-West-Point-restaurant-5709277.php?forceWeb=1

How much media coverage will that get? I guess he just deserved it.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...nly-arrest-woman-4-kids-car-article-1.1915009

Funny how a mom in a car full of small kids gets profiled. Yet police were supposed to be looking for 4 adults, in a car of different make, model, and color. Watch the video and hear the terror in the kids and moms voice. Why are they scared? Because they hear all the time of the police doing stupid sh!t to minorities and getting away with it.

I thought Id reply with this story since no one on this forum would ever think to make a thread about it in order to criticize this lazy police work. Lord knows if minority cops did this to a white family you would be quick to start a thread.

And it would have been far to easy for me to find a story of a minority being beat down by whites and it not making the news. Trust me, just because Ferguson, Missouri makes national news doesnt mean every case of racial profiling or discrimination is talked about.

Plenty, PLENTY of stories from various sides of the color spectrum dont make the big headlines.
 

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Jaylan said:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...nly-arrest-woman-4-kids-car-article-1.1915009

Funny how a mom in a car full of small kids gets profiled. Yet police were supposed to be looking for 4 adults, in a car of different make, model, and color. Watch the video and hear the terror in the kids and moms voice. Why are they scared? Because they hear all the time of the police doing stupid sh!t to minorities and getting away with it.

I thought Id reply with this story since no one on this forum would ever think to make a thread about it in order to criticize this lazy police work. Lord knows if minority cops did this to a white family you would be quick to start a thread.

And it would have been far to easy for me to find a story of a minority being beat down by whites and it not making the news. Trust me, just because Ferguson, Missouri makes national news doesnt mean every case of racial profiling or discrimination is talked about.

Plenty, PLENTY of stories from various sides of the color spectrum dont make the big headlines.
You and they should be blaming the minorities that give other minorities a bad name.
 

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You and they should be blaming the minorities that give other minorities a bad name.
No sh*t, it's like they absolutely REFUSE to address the bad behavior of the herd.
 

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No sh*t, it's like they absolutely REFUSE to address the bad behavior of the herd.
It's just like how feminism and women are too. Always blaming and lying and never taking responsibility for themselves.

Anyway so no one cares about the unarmed white kid shot by a black police officer?
 

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So if you think its ok to profile people based on the bad behavior of others, I dont wanna hear any of you whining about the so-called plight of the white man anymore. If you feel its ok for minorities to be treated a certain way because of bad apples, then the same should apply to your group.

Dont whine anymore about white guys not getting a fair shake in our society. Remember, its ok to blame and profile all white men for the crap some bad white men do. Next time you complain about white men not getting the same rights as others, Ill simply say "well some sh!tty white dudes gave all of you a bad wrap...deal with it"

Im just following your logic here guys. You wanna talk about taking responsibility when you lot spend a good portion of your time on this site blaming society for holding down the white man. Lmfao. You should just like the minorities you constantly b!tch about. Oh the irony.
 

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Jaylan said:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...nly-arrest-woman-4-kids-car-article-1.1915009

Funny how a mom in a car full of small kids gets profiled. Yet police were supposed to be looking for 4 adults, in a car of different make, model, and color. Watch the video and hear the terror in the kids and moms voice. Why are they scared? Because they hear all the time of the police doing stupid sh!t to minorities and getting away with it.

I thought Id reply with this story since no one on this forum would ever think to make a thread about it in order to criticize this lazy police work. Lord knows if minority cops did this to a white family you would be quick to start a thread.

And it would have been far to easy for me to find a story of a minority being beat down by whites and it not making the news. Trust me, just because Ferguson, Missouri makes national news doesnt mean every case of racial profiling or discrimination is talked about.

Plenty, PLENTY of stories from various sides of the color spectrum dont make the big headlines.

Did you see the one where a van full of children gets shot at by Albuquerque Police?

http://youtu.be/yJU3GhyF4e4?t=11m34s

The mom gets a speeding ticket, and is told she has to decide right there if she wants a trial or to pay the ticket. She refuses to decide and subsequently drives off. The officer pulls her over again, and decides to arrest her. Her teenage son gets out when the officer tries to arrest the mom. The Cop draws his weapon and demands they get on the ground. The family piles back into the van and locks the doors. More police arrive at this moment and they smash a window to get the van open. The mom takes off again and police open fire on the van.
The mom then runs from the police to a hospital where they take the family into custody.

The mom was clearly stupid, but the police were equally stupid for shooting at a van full of kids.
 

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