NoMarriage (.com) - thoughts?

[muscleman]

So here's a question, is a successful marriage even possible? Is there any reason, whatsoever, to get married? Even if you want to have kids, aren't you in a sense better off to knock a girl up, pay child support, see your kid (if you don't get custody), but still own all the sh!t that's yours?

Are there any cases where the guy actually got as much out of a divorce as the girl?

With divorce rates so high (and most initiated by women, go figure, easy $$) it's like what's the point? Man rape free-for-all? Will we ever get fed up and amend the Constitution to at least get rid of some of the totally BS occurences (voided pre-nups, no-fault alimony, etc)??

For that matter, how is marrying a non-western woman any different with regards to laws? Once she has a green card/citizenship it's the same deal ... other than she's more likely to stay.

Reading all of this is a little depressing, true as it may be.

 

[puma183]

A workable solution would have to include the following:

1) Marry a woman who makes the same as or more money than you do. At least no less than 70% of what you make.

2) Keep practicing Game/DJ skills in your marriage.

 

[muscleman]

The whole "staying a DJ" thing is such a moot point though. All of the laws seem to point to a woman being allowed to get a divorce at any point for any BS reason. There is nothing, not one thing, that by law prevents her from saying "peace out" and getting half (or more) of what's yours - forever.

What gets me with these articles is all the negative facts, but no instruction on how to "do it right". Obviously part of the financial independence revolves around having separate, untouchable accounts (funds?) and the like, but even that becomes blurred as is suggested.

Is it really a no-win scenario? In which case, is marriage even a thing to consider as it stands today?

This reminds me of those shows by ex (thank God) used to watch - The Real Housewives of ___. Made me want to vomit. WTF is on tv these days!?!

 

[DJDamage]

This guy is making sense:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXpsT3e8UsM

 

[muscleman]

Awesome video.

I don't know law that well with regards to cohabitation and out-of-wedlock children, but if the following is fact I personally see no reason at all in marriage as it stands today:

"Cro-Magnon man had children long before lawyers invented marriage contracts. Often, you do not need to be married in order to share health benefits. You do not need to be married to designate your partner on a life insurance policy. You do not need to be married to own a dream home together. It is ironic that responsible parents who raise a healthy family, but never actually sign marriage paperwork, get less respect than divorced parents or married parents who are ineffective, inattentive or incompetent.

-Having a lifelong, faithful, committed relationship has nothing to do with being “married”.
-Owning a beautiful dream home together has nothing to do with being “married”.
-Rearing healthy, happy, and successful children has nothing to do with being “married”.
-Building a family and life together has nothing to do with being “married”.
-Growing old together has nothing to do with being “married”.

In fact, recent changes in cohabitation, partner and marriage law have proven that the only tangible consequence of marriage is having a formalised separation process that usually requires the talents of an attorney.

You do need to be married in order to throw an extravagant four-hour party, and share the same last name.

You do need to be married in order to involve the state and government in your romantic affairs.

You do need to be married in order give away half of everything you own.

Besides that, marriage does nothing more than introduce lawyers and social workers into your life. These are people that otherwise would have nothing to do with your life or your relationship."

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

The site looks like illuminati propoganda to me.

 

[Nutz]

This guy is making sense:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXpsT3e8UsM

So true!

 

[muscleman]

I had an interesting experience last night. Me and my buddy went to see the UFC fight at a local sports bar. We ended up getting a number for a couple girls that I'll invite to an upcoming party, but that's beside the point. A group of 4 (5?) ok-looking milfs decided to join us out of nowhere; apparently they were having a GNO. We all talked and joked a bunch and a couple were very touchy-feely, but none met my standards for looks. It was funny observing some 40yr old drunk chicks embarrassing themselves. The point I wanted to make in all this was one of them who had 3 kids but was divorced ended up leaving with a guy she met that night ... who was married. There's a bit more to it that I don't feel like typing, but it confirmed almost everything I've read the past few days regarding marriage in the US - don't do it.

 

[SXS]

So here's a question, is a successful marriage even possible? Is there any reason, whatsoever, to get married? Even if you want to have kids, aren't you in a sense better off to knock a girl up, pay child support, see your kid (if you don't get custody), but still own all the sh!t that's yours?

If in your country 50% of the marriages fail, then the other 50% can be called "sucessfull"...
I think if you want kids, you better do like Michael Jackson. It's the only way you can get kids that are YOURS and yours only. No child support either.

The problem isn't only the laws regarding marriage that are in favor of women. A few generations ago people could stay married and raise their kids. The other problem is quite simple, people these days just SUCK. That includes women. And feminists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzK0DL_iX-I&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkiYTAVWZpg&feature=channel_page

 

[trent81]

Behind Every Good, Successfull, And Ambitious Man, Is A Wife. Married Equals Better Life. Healthier, Productive, And Safer Life. This Is Documented And Scientifically Proven. But It Doesn't Mean She Has To Be The Only Woman In Your Life.

 

[piranha45]

Behind Every Good, Successfull, And Ambitious Man, Is A Wife. Married Equals Better Life. Healthier, Productive, And Safer Life. This Is Documented And Scientifically Proven. But It Doesn't Mean She Has To Be The Only Woman In Your Life.

I can't figure out if you're being sarcastic or serious.

 

[trent81]

Listen bro,

It is proven scientifically that a man's life is significantly healthier if he is married. Look it up. But I would never advise on staying with a wife without something on the side. LIFE IS BETTER FOR A MAN IF HE IS MARRIED. IT'S PROVEN.

 

[SXS]

Listen bro,

It is proven scientifically that a man's life is significantly healthier if he is married. Look it up. But I would never advise on staying with a wife without something on the side. LIFE IS BETTER FOR A MAN IF HE IS MARRIED. IT'S PROVEN.

Proved where ?
But even if life is better for a man if he is married, it would be even better with a prenupcial contract.

 

[muscleman]

Listen bro,

It is proven scientifically that a man's life is significantly healthier if he is married. Look it up. But I would never advise on staying with a wife without something on the side. LIFE IS BETTER FOR A MAN IF HE IS MARRIED. IT'S PROVEN.

link? having a very hard time believing this ...

And where is RT to comment.

 

[trent81]

I remember two weeks ago I read another study on CNN.com about this. I'm not lying. I also saw it in New England Journal of Medicine a few months ago. Think about this logically.

If you are a married man (barring you are not married to Lucifer)

Less chance of an STD
Less chance of health conditions due to eating poorly (as single men do)
Less chance of loneliness and depression due to being single
Less chance of violent confrontations with other men (you won't hang out at clubs or bars as much)
Less chance of sexually dependent on masturbation, porn, or etc. (all of these have impact on men negatively.)
Less chance of financial ruin (if two people work, better life)
Less chance of unfulfilled life (men want kids just as much as women do, that's why were here, unless you are gay or hate kids of course)

I can go on and on. The key is the right wife........Single life is not healthy in the long run. I'm surprised you guys don't agree with this. Ever see old men who are single? I do. They gamble their Social security checks in my state. Do they have smiles on their faces? I read a statistic that old men with no companion die far younger than married old couples. Loneliness takes its toll, besides, a good woman to take care of you when you are dying and ill, is worth more than gold.

 

[SXS]

Less chance of health conditions due to eating poorly (as single men do)

I cook for myself since, well, very young, and I must say that I still have to find a woman who is better at the kitchen than I am.

Less chance of unfufilled life (men want kids just as much as women do, that's why were here, unless you are gay and hate kids of course)

That is my case, I hate kids.

I can go on and on. The key is the right wife........Single life is not healthy in the long run.

Then the ideal thing would be get a fat wife, who cooks and clean, and then having other women on the side.

 

[trent81]

haha, yeah that's true. The chances of a good wife is better at HB6 than HB10.

I refuse to think of marriage (though you guys have very good points) as a negative. If I meet the right woman, I think it will be a lifelong experience of positivity. But with a 6 in 10 failure rate, the odds are clearly against us. Who knows? Maybe we will get lucky.

 

[guru1000]

Statistics may state 40/60 or 60/40. The BOTTOMLINE is these statistics include ALL men. 95% of the men I know are AFC's and will compromise their souls to keep a woman. That said, I am surprised the divorce rate is not upwards to 90% given the pool of men willing sacrifice themselves for a woman.

Now, let's speak about the statistics with respect to a man who is aware, qualifies and does not compromise his frame. I give this man a 10% chance of a failing marriage.

Combine this with a prenup and asset shelters, the only downside to being married is you cannot enjoy a diverse harem.

 

[DJDamage]

I can go on and on. The key is the right wife........Single life is not healthy in the long run. I'm surprised you guys don't agree with this.

What you fail to realise is that prehaps the men who aren't married and who live a shorter life span are doing so because they don't really have a choice in the matter. Its only recently that men who do have a choice and are not sexual outcasts have awoken and have started to seriously look at marriages and its long term benefits.

There are many men who are either too ugly, too poor, too unhealthy and too anti-social from ever meeting women let alone marrying them. Lets not forget that those stats probably lumped sumed divorced men with single men and you better believe that they are likely at worse shape health wise (as a result of the divroce grind aftermath) then those who never been married by choice.

Therefore those stats do not reflect the small percentage of men who do not get married because of their own choosing and also have their sh1t together.

Ever see old men who are single? I do. They gamble their Social security checks in my state. Do they have smiles on their faces? I read a statistic that old men with no companion die far younger than married old couples. Loneliness takes its toll, besides, a good woman to take care of you when you are dying and ill, is worth more than gold.

Who says that you aren't going to outlive your wife?! who says it isn't you that is going to take care of her if you are still married? who says just because you are married doesn't mean that you are never going to be lonely? who says just because you are aren't married and you are old that you can't find yourself friends or keep yourself occupied? once again it comes down to choice rather then being depended on another being for your happiness.

 

[muscleman]

I've never been married, but:

Less chance of an STD
agree, but you have a smaller chance of death if you don't drive a car. you still drive, don't you?

Less chance of health conditions due to eating poorly (as single men do)
disagree. it's not like cooking is a giant mystery and there are plenty of women (wives) who don't feel like cooking, or cooking good for that matter

Less chance of loneliness and depression due to being single
disagree. you get over it pretty quick. I don't think you'll ever find completion or a solution to depression in a woman. you will make you happy, not another woman (in the long term anyway). put another way, if you're unhappy alone, you're ultimately not going to be happy with someone else

Less chance of violent confrontations with other men (you won't hang out at clubs or bars as much)
disagree. how is going to a bar any more dangerous as far as confrontations go than any other social gathering? bar fight? when was the last time you saw one? I've never actually seen one in person my whole life. also, see #1

Less chance of sexually dependent on masturbation, porn, or etc. (all of these have impact on men negatively.)
completely, utterly disagree. fvcking one girl over and over and over and over won't make you tired of it? if anything I watched more porn when I had an LTR than when I was single

Less chance of financial ruin (if two people work, better life)
you haven't been ass-raped by a divorce yet, have you? or a wife who decides to stop working and nothing you can do about it?

Less chance of unfulfilled life (men want kids just as much as women do, that's why were here, unless you are gay or hate kids of course)
what does marriage have to do with kids?!?!