No results online dating

[Fuglydude]

I hate to say it man, but online dating, at least in my experience, is very superficial. In addition, I think online dating works against guys especially on POF. Most women on those sites are generally lower quality than the guys. Hot, high quality women are getting hit on all the time and likely won't need to resort to online dating to find dates. Sure you might meet some hot career chic who needs online dating cuz she's too damn busy to use conventional approaches, but in general I think guys are still disadvantaged. Haha, that being said, I did actually meet my fiance on POF! I was using POF as a quick hook up site as I was busy w/ school/work. The women I did hook up with were generally substandard relative to the kinds of girls I know I could get, but they were great for practice and great for getting your cack sucked... I had a fair bit of success on POF because I think I went towards "easy" women (substandard women that I knew were attracted to me).

I guess my point is that online dating/hook up sites should be just one mode for meeting/interacting w/ women and creating social networks. Its great if you're a busy guy, as I'm sure you are with school and stuff... However, I do encourage you to step out of your comfort zone and try different things to help with networking. In my experience fitness classes at your local gym are actually a pretty cool place to meet cute/hot fitness minded women. Maybe take a hip hop class or join a rowing club. Changing up physical activities will both help you grow as a strength athlete and also help with networking.

I think north american women tend to be quite superficial as well, so unfortunately aesthetics do matter. I know you're a strong phucker, but maybe try and focus a bit on getting lean. Get a tan and do something with you hair/look that signifies that you're a hypermasculine male that loves to destroy pu$$y. You need to have a strong internal state that is confident and sexual... As you know I was a stripper for 3 and a half years, and I'll tell you right now women are extremely sexual creatures. You have to be able to convey sexual confidence and dominance to them in a non-verbal way.

As far as your actual profile goes, if you'd like you can PM the link and I can have a look to give you tips. Maybe lean up get a tan and hire a photographer to take some pics of you. Pics make a huge difference. Remember, there's nothing wrong with going out/screwing substandard chics if you're justing using them for practice or sex... You're basically doing them a favor as far as I'm concerned.

 

[terran2k]

to me, I think the chics on those online dating sits are crazy. I mean what is wrong with the girl if she's hot and has to resort to an online site to meet men. There's gotta be something wacked out about her; the girls that I know that have resorted to online dating sites are freakin nut jobs. I suspect that for the 99.99% of the rest of them that are on there too. it's their last desperate resort for attention.

then they have some ungodly expectation of who should message them, something that you can almost never measure up too.

 

[Kerpal]

I guess I'm hoping just to get lucky and meet that 1/100 girl on there who isn't a nutjob. Also just dating more girls and getting more experience in general wouldn't hurt. I literally have no other way to meet girls at the moment so this will have to do

 

[Zarky]

LOLing at OP.

Dude, send at least 5-10 emails PER DAY, delete your "sent" ones as soon as you send 'em so you're not tempted to look at whether they were read.

I've contacted about 800 women on POF in the past few years and slept with 10 of them. Do the math, that's one lay per 80 or so initial emails.

Put up your best pic, don't write anything nerdy or lame in your profile, and then hit on hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of chicks.

Online dating is ALL about numbers. You find something in a woman's profile to throw a quick comment to her about, and then forget her. The vast majority of the time they'll just delete your email. Sometimes you'll get an email from her. Rarely will you get a second, etc.

Don't take any of it personally and don't get hung up on any chick. Just turn out email after email until one indicates that she's easy.

I've sent so many emails to so many random chicks that I find myself sending emails to ones I already sent 'em to. Occasionally one will go, "Didn't you say that same thing to me a week ago?" But hey, it's an opening. Usually they just delete it again.

It's like passing out flyers to get new customers to come to your new car wash or deli or whatever. Do you care individually about each person you hand out the flyer to? No, you just hand out as many flyers as you can. 80% of the people are going to throw them in the trash immediately. The others may think about it.

Keep handing out those flyers. I've been doing online dating for almost 8 years and that's how it works.

 

[terran2k]

why do you have no other way of meeting girls at the moment? are you in prison or something?

 

[Kerpal]

No social circle.

 

[terran2k]

can you join a sport club or something? and hang out when they setup parties and such.

 

[Leporello]

With each message you send back and forth it decreases the chances of her responding. Get a screen name or a phone number or something that establish contact OUTSIDE the dating site.

 

[Kerpal]

LOLing at OP.

Dude, send at least 5-10 emails PER DAY, delete your "sent" ones as soon as you send 'em so you're not tempted to look at whether they were read.

I've contacted about 800 women on POF in the past few years and slept with 10 of them. Do the math, that's one lay per 80 or so initial emails.

Put up your best pic, don't write anything nerdy or lame in your profile, and then hit on hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of chicks.

Online dating is ALL about numbers. You find something in a woman's profile to throw a quick comment to her about, and then forget her. The vast majority of the time they'll just delete your email. Sometimes you'll get an email from her. Rarely will you get a second, etc.

Don't take any of it personally and don't get hung up on any chick. Just turn out email after email until one indicates that she's easy.

I've sent so many emails to so many random chicks that I find myself sending emails to ones I already sent 'em to. Occasionally one will go, "Didn't you say that same thing to me a week ago?" But hey, it's an opening. Usually they just delete it again.

It's like passing out flyers to get new customers to come to your new car wash or deli or whatever. Do you care individually about each person you hand out the flyer to? No, you just hand out as many flyers as you can. 80% of the people are going to throw them in the trash immediately. The others may think about it.

Keep handing out those flyers. I've been doing online dating for almost 8 years and that's how it works.

I know it's a numbers game, but at this rate I'm going to run out of girls in my area to message before I get any results

 

[Naughty Ninja]

To the O.P. I had this in my other thread regarding P.O.F and added more to it here. (It's a long read but totally true and proven. I've read of other dudes doing the same thing I did and proving it over and over again.)

As far as Plenty of Fish-excrement goes it’s basically an extended ‘Flakebook’ site for diseased minded women seeking attention to stroke their shallow and over inflated ego’s in search of the top 5% of males to write or respond to. I’ve tested it myself to see what the results were of what these ‘ladies’ who write what I call “fluff filler” on their page (to come off as a ‘nice’ person who has so much to offer and is approachable) are REALLY in search of: The HOTTEST guy they can land. They just stick their profile up, write the same old same old mundane stuff, and let it sit until the best looking guy writes or they see his pictures and write to “him”. All their other laundry list of “requirements” are looked for if at all, AFTER they’ve seen the pictures of the handsome stud they’re after.


I had my own original profile up and took it down after I’d written short funny one liners off their headline ,had good pictures up of myself and a well written basic profile (not overdone in the writing about me) only to see “read” “read deleted” “unread deleted” one after the other after the other. Only a few responded to my original profile. I had various nice normal pictures of me out having fun, no cursing, intimate innuendo in the emails sent, nothing. All of them claimed to “love to laugh” Blah,Blah,Blah etc. I then posted a fake profile with hardly anything written on it with several pictures of a ’10′ in looks guy and wrote to the same and more women (best looking, average, etc.) with basically the same lines I used in my original profile and….it was MAGIC!


EVERY ONE of them responded, almost within minutes! And I’m talking about at least twenty or more of multiple ages. Most were very attractive with multiple pictures, some average etc. They “loved” my sense of humor, kept trying to IM “me” and pushed for conversation with questions about me even though basically NOTHING was written. I had emails sent without writing, a constant PARADE of women viewing “my” profile, been added to “favorites” etc. I made small talk and eventually deleted the fake profile and left THEM all hanging.


My advice to anyone reading this is if you don’t believe me, try it for yourself. Remove your profile if you have one up and post up the best looking unknown guy you know (so they don’t realize it’s fake) and write or let it sit. You’ll AMAZE yourself at how these women are so interested in you based on your “10″ pictures with nothing to say in the about me section. They’ll be sweet as pie, initiate IM’s, laugh at everything you say, try to turn the conversation sexual (which I ignored on purpose.) And offer email addresses, Facebook pages, phone numbers, etc.

My conclusion is: It’s all about the best looking guy women can land while doing no work. Don’t drive yourselves insane writing crafted responses based off their profile nonsense “fluff filler”. They only decide if they want to talk to you if you look like a “10″. Online dating, especially a free site is a waste of your time and efforts, even going into detail about yourself. They don’t read your profile unless you look like a chiseled God in your pictures. Making the ‘10’ young in age 25-30 and over 6′ helps tremendously as well.


Meeting people in real life is much more productive and you aren’t judged by shallow people with various emotional and mental issues who though attractive need to resort to online “dating”. You also don’t have a “profile resume” hanging off your neck giving any mundane, insecure “princess” an automatic reason to blow you off their ‘checklist’ because they wouldn’t say to your face they are shallow and you aren’t their “perfect 10″ dreamboy.

Most of the women on that site are the bottom feeders of society looking for an ego boost, have boyfriends and are looking to “upgrade” behind their backs, are bi-polar or have any other assortment of mental and emotional problems. They are too plugged into the matrix of society and brainwashed with what they see on Sex and the City, Desperate Housewives, Reality T.V., and are most likely Flakebook, MySpace attention wh0res. These women are NOT relationship material and you should thank God they don’t respond because they wouldn’t know what to do with any man they claim they are looking for.


Try it yourselves. Post a fake profile of a “10″ looking guy with real looking pictures, and a boring quick profile and email a few. Watch with your own eyes how fast they respond and go into “sweet girl” mode. You can basically talk to them any way you want and they will take it from the “10″ they’ve been deluding themselves about. When they try to change the conversation to sex talk either blow them off or eventually do the old “read deleted” or “unread deleted” right back at them.

Plenty of Fishtards online “dating” may’ve been good in the past, but it’s been over inundated with AW’s using it as an extended Flakebook ego fix. Unless you look like a model ‘10’ bad boy, don’t get yourself down or drive yourself insane over the chronic residents of the Plenty of Fish Asylum. It is what it is.

 

[Zarky]

My conclusion is: It’s all about the best looking guy women can land while doing no work. Don’t drive yourselves insane writing crafted responses based off their profile nonsense “fluff filler”. They only decide if they want to talk to you if you look like a “10″. Online dating, especially a free site is a waste of your time and efforts, even going into detail about yourself. They don’t read your profile unless you look like a chiseled God in your pictures. Making the ‘10’ young in age 25-30 and over 6′ helps tremendously as well.

This is clearly the opinion of someone who had no luck with online dating. Online dating is not for fragile egos because you get rejected SOOO much. Don't look at your "sent" messages or you will feel bad, because no matter how "studly" you are (and I've made fake profiles too with hunky fake guys), 80-90% of women you email will never respond. That's just how it goes.

You really need to strengthen your ego to do online dating. Otherwise you will hate the experience.

 

[loveshogun]

Is this for real?

OP, can you explain why, exactly, you cannot meet women in real life where you are?

Because to me, if you're not the type who can talk to people in real life, setting up a date online is just postponing the inevitable failure.

You aren't approaching people in real life. What's the point of talking about how to do it online?

 

[Kerpal]

Because I don't have a social circle therefore I have no way to meet women. I actually do pretty well once I meet a woman, it's just actually meeting them that's the problem. I've used online dating before with some slight success, I was in a 1 year LTR with a girl I met online.

 

[loveshogun]

?

What the hell does "not having a social circle" mean?

If you're shy, then realize that you need to get over that, and just talk to people. It gets easier, but you're the one who has to get up and do it.

Realize that people who are very social ALSO feel shyness at times. They just force themselves to ignore it.

How do you think social circles come to be? A bunch of people just sit around silently staring at each other until the hand of god makes them all friends?

So please, without excuses, explain again why "having no social circle" is keeping you from talking to people?

 

[Kerpal]

I do talk to people. I don't want to derail this thread, but I made another thread on this issue, post there if you want. Let's keep this thread restricted to the topic at hand.

 

[Zarky]

For some reason the seduction "community" looks down on online dating just as it does texting. No idea why myself. More than 80% of the chicks I've screwed have come from online. I don't like cold approaching chicks simply because I don't like strangers (don't like chicks approaching me either), but online it's no big deal and I have no problems on first dates. Chicks dig me, I just don't like interacting with strangers and I have no interest in changing that aspect of myself.

When I go out I usually have something to get done and I'm not about to slow down my day trying to pick up random chicks. And I don't have the cash to go bars and clubs all the time. So there you go.

 

[Just a Shot Away]

To the O.P. read my thread entitled: Plenty of Fish regarding looks test. You'll realize quickly that if you aren't in the top 5% of looks...

Can we get security in here, please? Security!

 

[Kerpal]

Can we get security in here, please? Security!

Since you don't agree with him on the looks issue, what's your theory as to why I'm not getting any responses?

 

[ginger]

Hey I wonder how many of you guys get messaged by girls first. I'm on okcupid and there is only like one message a week in my inbox. I can understand that girls would wait for a guy to message them, but what do you guys make of girls that visit your page but don't message. Worth messaging them if you are interested or can we assume that they don't want you or they would have messaged.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

This is clearly the opinion of someone who had no luck with online dating. Online dating is not for fragile egos because you get rejected SOOO much. Don't look at your "sent" messages or you will feel bad, because no matter how "studly" you are (and I've made fake profiles too with hunky fake guys), 80-90% of women you email will never respond. That's just how it goes.

You really need to strengthen your ego to do online dating. Otherwise you will hate the experience.

I've gotten women off online dating (Match) as well as Myspace etc. Trust me on that. Dated several awhile ago. Most are nuts with alot of issues and real wh0res. What I was getting at is FREE dating sites aren't what they originally were intended for. ALOT of good looking women join to get the top 5% in looks or to stroke their egos.

And they weren't obvious fake pics. They were 3 real pics of a dude who could model.

What I have found is some will respond at night to a "7" as "traffic" may slow down.