Night Game is Dead? Yea, and So is Day Game

[sstype]

DonGorgon, please leave your room.... there are plenty, of nice, available, down to earth women out there, that just want a guy that makes them laugh and make them feel good.

Your view is totally unrealistic, and only represents a small percentage of women!

I agree with this assessment. I also see plenty of attractive women with average looking dudes....its not hard to get a girlfriend if you come off genuinely interested in her as a person.

This is why they only stick to guys in their social circle. If a guy tries to "hit it and quit it," he will get blackballed, just like what happened to the guy posting earlier. In women's eyes, social circles are a way to keep out potential "sleaze-bags"

A lot of you guys (TIC, DonGordon, Sattellite) need to just focus on getting and keeping one girl around for a few months before worrying about sh*t like "oneitis" or "spinning plates"

Being a master at cold approaching is akin to being a successful day trader. It requires a substantial amount of time and energy to just become competent. Most guys still fail to meet their goal despite approaching 1000s of women. The best PUAs have spent their entire lives perfecting their craft and still can only boast a 10-15% max success rate.

I've done my fair share of cold approaches and half the battle is just finding good opportunities.....attractive in-shape single women aren't teeming everywhere(unless you live in South Beach or Sunset Blvd), so a lot of time for me was spent looking for a girl to approach that wasn't engaged or married. Then when I did find them, assuming they were interested, it was always implied that I would not be able to get close to them unless I was willing to spend time "courting" and "dating" them.

At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself whether its worth all that trouble to dedicate your time to this when you could doing something more enjoyable to you. You can always approach if you run into someone while grocery shopping/running errands or maybe designate one night out of the week to go out to the club and just run game for sh*ts and giggles. The rest of time you should focus on improving yourself through education, career, gym, and making friends. Keep this sh*t on the backburner and don't let it consume all your energy.

You will be far more grounded and be able to mentally withstand the wild up and down swings inherent in cold approaching.

Just because I don't care to be an amazing casanova like you guys does not make me any lesser of a man or a p*ssy. I'm perfectly content having one cool chick to kick it with on the weekends. Some of us have actual lives to tend to, we're not all broke college kids with all the time in the world to burn. Live and let live.

Giving up is not the answer.....but neither is trying to impress random guys on the internet with your "Diary of 1000 Approaches".

 

[JdelaSilviera]

I'll respectfully disagree. Humor doesn't get you laid. That only entertains women. Mostly it's looks that get you laid. Of course, status or money can help. Game is a supplement to the other things.

Even in the case of a relationship, humor is something women want in a guy they are ALREADY attracted to.

Welcome back DonGorgon! You tell it like it is. I also agree with the OP.

To the other guys, nobody is saying give up on the game. Just acknowledge how difficult it is for most guys and keep at it anyway. Of course, it's a personal decision how much time and effort you want to put into it.

I know a lot of girls that chosen their boyfriends because they were funny. Yes they tell jokes, but being funny is more about being teasing, flirting, having good timing and witty answers. It´s not about being a clown.

Of course there are girls, that must have the tall guy, the abs guy, the guy with handsome face or eyes, etc... but many of them don´t.

Dongorgon views show his alienation from the world and his lack of first hand knowledge.. to say the least. There are a lot of Donas out there that think that all men will cheat and are pigs etc also.

 

[Solomon]

truth about DG

its not a secret that DG,'s views of women are morbid, he even confessed in a thread to having severe depression so of course his views on women aren't all that great. Ive known DG online since I got here, and the type of women he messes with aren't high quality at all in terms of relationship material, they may look good, but relationship wise their the bottom of the barrel

hence is negative mindset

 

[tiburon_blanco]

I didn't bother reading everything, but if the general point is real-life interaction is getting rarer then yes you are correct.

However isn't this an opportunity as opposed to a limiting factor?

In other words, some random girl is getting approached less and less in real life, and is getting more and more words / short stories / essays etc through the internet instead. This is clearly unnatural, so it's an opportunity for you to fulfill her dreams and be that REAL encounter that her sub-conscious is longing for and is missing.

Positive thinking, friend.

 

[Nygard]

For those fortunate enough to be in the top 20% :

Congratulations, whether or not social tech totally changed game as we know it, it doesn't affect you at all. For you, nothing changed, since their attention will still gravitate around you by just being you. You might not notice or care if game changed, but it did. Doesn't matter, keep on lording.

Bottom 80% :

Get a social circle, period.

Those bottom 10% of the bottom 80%:

You know who you are. You feel totally broken and hopeless. Yet you read RDSNation blogs, the DJ Bible, Roissy's blog and every single tip here. Still, you even struggle to make friends and reach out of any kind of person.
My advice: There's so much game can do for anyone and there's no "rags to riches" story I've ever seen on this. Facebook is just another nail in the coffin. Not like it matters, Facebook or not, a bum with aids is more likely to get laid than you.

As a conclusion : Get the hell out of the west.

 

[MikeBrown30]

And do you know what happened? My friends turned on me. They got very jealous. They started sowing seeds of disrespect for me in all the girls in my social circle.

They got into the ear of all the girls, especially the alpha female, the one whose opinion counted for the most, who none of the other girls would dare to think an independent thought without it first being sanctioned by her.

You really should have distanced yourself from your "friends" when this happened. You shouldn't be friends with jealous people, they will bring you down.

 

[satelliteparties]

mike32ct...excellent post. no one is saying to give up, that's not what most of us are saying. what we're saying is that looks matter more than this site leads on (if you want young conventionally attractive women.) game matters when the attraction is already there to begin with.

if you see some fat guy or ugly guy or average guy with a hot woman, chances are he met her at work, through a friend, at a party...in other words...he didn't cold approach her on the street.

and i know what i'm talking about as far as cold approaches...i've done many myself...and have a friend that's easily a 9 on most women's scale (tall, model looking)...and has a low success rate...isn't "beta" has good game that women usually respond to otherwise, etc. . at least where i live (not a big city...just a bunch of surrounding towns)...women don't want to be chatted up by strangers. i mean look at scott peterson or the facebook killer...they were good looking but they were crazy. it's a sign of the times.

the guys on here that claim to have high success approaching are approaching at bars/clubs, or they live in a conducive area (a big city.)

the guys that are hating are either 1.)the 20 percent, or 2.)ugly/average guys that don't want to face that game won't get them where they want to be.

sstype...i agree with you as far as dating one quality girl at a time, but they're hard to find. they're out there, but hard to find. if i had seen the first girl i dated at the mall for example...i would have thought "hot, out of my league, difficult"...and if you approached at her at the mall, you'd probably be right...but if she knows you, or knows someone you know...she couldn't be a nicer person.

my point being though, i'm a bad judge of character. i assume (wrongly i know) "oh she's a white girl that's a 7/8 to most, she won't like me."

 

[Deicide]

But how long did he try for? 10 months is nothing! It took me years to hone my skills.

The OP's problem, like so many other guys on here, is that he expected game to be a magical cure to his problem of not getting laid (enough). When that didn't happen, he became disillusioned and started blaming Game for his shortcomings. Instead of playing blame games, the OP should work on improving as a person first, then as a DJ

It takes a while just to beat Approach Anxiety, and then you go from there. And that AA comes in different forms, like initially we are afraid to approach isolated female targets. Then, 2 and 3-sets, mixed sets, and so forth. It takes a long time to realize what you are doing right and wrong. I'm 6 months into this, and I'm still confused as hell about openers to use on cold approaches. But then again, I do a lot of cold approaches, mostly in the day.
I'd recommend that the OP read up on how to go about acting after getting the number. Gaming from the initial approach is different than gaming on a date.

 

[Jitterbug]

Must be a lot of frustrated women out there when all avenues of Game seem to be dead...

Anyone here watched Swingers? Remember the black guy who kept saying "this place is dead anyway"?

 

[yuppaz]

Some of the principals of cold approach and attraction are being ignored. Women have and always will respond well to strong men that screen them for REAL qualities....because you won't give a **** about who she is if you just want to **** her. Women want strong leaders with options, show that you are one, don't hesitate and you will be fine. You are probably just going about it wrong. I also get discouraged when I feel sh*tty and try to approach and it seems like begging for p*ssy, they reject and I feel like @ss, so do what you need to to feel strong, determined and lead the interaction. Work on that for yourself and let it become a habit and they will follow up with you because you are a special snowflake like her daddy

 

[ohnoes]

The game isn't dead--it's just challenging. What makes it difficult or easy is your approach. If you want to win, you have to change your strategy. Cold approaches are difficult because you are trying to attract her when she isn't even aware of you. COLD says it all. Instead of trying to attract, ATTRACT her. Captivate her ATTENTION.

How do you do that? by being interesting and standing out. Not all girls will find you interesting. **** them. If you are interacting and meeting new girls every day, it's a guarantee some of them will show interest in you and you will get her number and you will have a fun date..

You have to make a woman FEEL. Likewise, she must make you FEEL too. Have you ever had a girl look into your eyes and it set you on fire and at that exact same moment you know that she is burning inside as well to FEEL you, to TOUCH, you to F_CK you??

The question to ask yourself is how can I make a COLD approach a WARM approach??

 

[BadNews]

This is some straight up AFC **** if I've ever heard it.

I have 1 thing to say to the OP:

THERE IS ALWAYS ANOTHER GIRL! THERE IS ALWAYS ANOTHER GIRL! THERE IS ALWAYS ANOTHER GIRL! HAVE SOME ****ING SELF RESPECT BUD!

Geez...your apparent struggles with women really REALLY do not surprise me based on everything you've written. Place a higher value on yourself, grow some balls, and get the **** out there and close some women! In a coffee shop, in a bookstore, walking down the street, in the gas station, in the bar, at work...WHEREVER! I honestly feel sorry for guys like you.

Best of luck.

 

[DonGorgon]

its not a secret that DG,'s views of women are morbid, he even confessed in a thread to having severe depression so of course his views on women aren't all that great. Ive known DG online since I got here, and the type of women he messes with aren't high quality at all in terms of relationship material, they may look good, but relationship wise their the bottom of the barrel

hence is negative mindset

most of the hos i mess with have boyfriends and husbands like you who think she is a good girl...

it is sad and depressing when you really truly accept human depravity and that is what depresses me..

yes i can get sex but humans dont really have valuable meaning full committed relationships they have lie and secrets that may or may not ever be revealed to the people who trust them..

99% of the time one mans ho is another man housewife/ good girl/ mom/ sister/ soul mate etc etc etc

feel free to hate me and the truth i bring but you will live it..

 

[TIC]

Dongorgon, no offense, but why do you type like a pilled-out 3rd grader?

 

[Lexington]

If the game is dead, then how come bars and clubs are still so crowded these days? Why the heck would people bother to get dressed up to go to a loud, crowded place where they have to wait for expensive drinks?

Next time you're at a bar and you see a group of people sitting together all playing on their iPhones, take a closer look. How many of those dudes that accompany those girls are actually bumping uglies with them?

People want to interact with other people. That is still ultimately why people go out to bars. If all they wanted was drinks with their friends, there are plenty of cheaper ways to do that. Of course, smartphones have provided people with a new crutch in these social situations.

You can however use this to your advantage. While the chumps are just sitting around checking Facebook for the millionth time, you can get busy approaching broads. And while those girls may act like they are tending to important business on their phones, what they are really saying is "approach me."