Night Game is Dead? Yea, and So is Day Game

[TIC]

In fact, all game appears to be dead besides social circle game. We are at a point in time where social media, texting, and online dating have officially dismantled the foundation of pick-up and game. Being a random, unknown person will no longer cut it with women, no matter how tight your game is.

Social circle is the last and final effective way to get laid/gf/**** buddy. All successful cold approaches (and by successful, I mean F-Close, not a number, not even a kiss) are to be viewed as anomalies and a window into the past, which will subsequently be followed by nostalgia.

If you aren't in a social clique, you are dead to 99% of women. Dead man walking, alone, disgraced, and shamed. Yea there may be alot of other threads similar to this, but hey, I don't give a flying **** either way. You see, none of us know how bad we really have it. We sit and complain all day (some of us), but the frightening reality is that our minds cannot even comprehend how much of a disadvantage we are at as average males who exists outside of the top 20%. This includes all of us, because I refuse to believe that a top 20% alpha male would so much as google pua/dating tips in order to find this forum in the first place. Doesn't happen. Won't happen. Don't even start feeding me bull****.

What are you gonna do? Approach a girl at the bookstore/coffee shop like a ****ing tool? Yea, you are a ****ing tool. Because while your preparing to lower yourself by approaching an american woman, you can be rest assured that there are several other tools posting semi-flirtatious comments on her facebook wall, texting her, etc etc etc etc etc. Her ego has already surpassed what constitutes the narcissism threshold. You are a tool, just another tool, and she is queen, just another queen.

She will be hit on by the entire field of guys. Alphas, betas, gammas. Short guys, tall guys. Buff guys, skinny guys. ****y-comedy guys, dark bad boy guys. Nerds. Rich guys. Middle class guys. Guys in the top 20%. Guys in the bottom 10 %. The whole field of tools, which includes you

She doesn't have to be particularly beautiful. If she's a 6 or higher, she's queen. A mini-celebrity. Demi-god. Attention *****. Ego maniac. *****, and socialite. As for her plates? She's actually a master of plate theory, and has been since she grew breasts

You see, you clowns all forgot that women are 25 steps ahead of you. Take plate theory for instance. Whatever genius thought that up missed the part where in actuality, even the most average of women have already mastered this by junior high.

You, mere mortal, cannot comprehend with your feeble mind how many times average plane janes get hit on at bars, clubs, coffee shops, grocery stores, gas stations, restaurants.

You, mere mortal, cannot comprehend with your feeble mind how many times the average plain jane gets texted, face-book friended, face-book flirted with, and messaged on any online dating service.

If you have any real experience dealing with women, you will have noticed that they seem very fickle and have short attention spans. This may or may not be true about them, but the real reason is because there's always another guy

There's always, always another guy. Lurking in the shadows, out in the open, it doesn't matter. There is always another guy. There is always another guy.

Several other guys. Several other tools, like yourself. You are nothing but a tool in her toolbox which is located in her big toolshed of tools, that she can conveniently choose to use or throw away when she gets bored with the other tools. If you so much as approach a woman, you are a tool
We are tools; pua's, don juans, whatever. All tools in her toolshed.

Why are women so fickle? Because she has a whole toolshed to herself.
Why are women so picky? She can be, silly. She has a whole toolshed to pick from.
Why are women so unfaithful? Silly tool, she has a toolshed.

 

[SoSuaveDude]

Omg... so true, I just posted a thread about this! we're screwed :crackup:

 

[Re-ac-tor]

..I enjoyed this.

 

[badboyjmm]

Social circle is the last and final effective way to get laid/gf/**** buddy. All successful cold approaches (and by successful, I mean F-Close, not a number, not even a kiss) are to be viewed as anomalies and a window into the past, which will subsequently be followed by nostalgia.

Not true man. A Social circle helps a lot, but it's not everything. You still gotta introduce yourself, be your best self, C&F and all that great stuff.. Your definition of being successful is way too specific. Being successful means you didn't get awkwardly rejected and that you are feeling good with your interactions with woman. With a definition of success that only relies on whether or not you fvcked a woman makes you outcome dependent.

We sit and complain all day (some of us), but the frightening reality is that our minds cannot even comprehend how much of a disadvantage we are at as average males who exists outside of the top 20%.

Yeah we are in disadvantage, but we have two choices: Complain and jack off or work on ourselves and try not to worry to much about the ladies

What are you gonna do? Approach a girl at the bookstore/coffee shop like a ****ing tool? Yea, you are a ****ing tool. Because while your preparing to lower yourself by approaching an american woman, you can be rest assured that there are several other tools posting semi-flirtatious comments on her facebook wall, texting her, etc etc etc etc etc. Her ego has already surpassed what constitutes the narcissism threshold. You are a tool, just another tool, and she is queen, just another queen.

Why not approach like a man, and see the result ? It's this kind of mentality that makes guys develop one-itis whenever a girl is polite with them, makes guys pvssies and not approach chicks. If she's just another queen, then it should be a problem to verify if she can be YOUR queen. Abundance mentality works better

Also doesn't matter that she gets hit all the time over some virtual media... It's ego boosting of course, but if she cares about you, nothing about facebook post, twitter messages will be important. Care about yourself, not the competition

If you have any real experience dealing with women, you will have noticed that they seem very fickle and have short attention spans. This may or may not be true about them, but the real reason is because there's always another guy

There's always, always another guy. Lurking in the shadows, out in the open, it doesn't matter. There is always another guy. There is always another guy.

You are right there's always another guy... But guess what, I don't care because there's always another girl... If I get rejected by a million women, there's will be another million that I can talk to. Again abundance mentality

You either play the game or get played

Make your choice...

 

[IKO69]

This is one hell of a post and perfectly summarizes what guys are up against today. You're absolutely right about it!

That being said it's important to remember while a woman does have all those men giving her attention she is not interested in most of them and chances are out of the bunch there are only a few that she really cares about at any given time. What it means is this- It's absolutely crucial that you be the best you can be and do the best you can given the opportunities you get. Most women decide early on if they are open to anything with a guy they see and meet. That never changes and if you happen to be in then who cares about what other guys are doing or trying to do. What that shows is you're too worried about others and not secure in yourself yet....because really if you're the type of guy who this comes easy to and you have a girls undivided attention, who really cares about what others think or are trying to do? Not saying you don't have reason, but it is what it is. The only person's opinion that matters is her's and everyone else is a nonfactor.

I have been doing a lot of observing lately, getting a real feel for the situation and i'll tell you what- the type of guy women are looking for, what we define as a 'desirable' guy is still very rare. Fact is most men struggle with women and don't have the confidence a lot of times to really go after someone in a less than ideal situation. Everything has to be perfect- they have to be wearing the right clothes, be seen with the right person, the stars perfectly aligned etc. There are men, the naturals who can pull this off with the odds stacked against them but they are a very small minority and they pull this off because of extreme self confidence and absolute disregard to fear, humiliation & rejection. Most men will never retain this level and go about dating and attracting like a blind person in a dark room looking for a needle. When they happen to get someone it's through sheer luck and have no idea how and why it happens. For people who do take trying to get better with women seriously and improving their own life are at a really big advantage.

 

[backbreaker]

When I am not out pimping hoes or cashing signers at the horse track, I run a web development company. I prefer to use freelance sites to get work versus using my site for various reasons, mainly because it controls marketing costs.

There is one site in particular I use, it's pretty big. "There are forums there, just like this forum on the site where they all talk about how "this site is dead" and how all clients are *******s and how the only way you can compete with the "guys overseas" is to work for scraps and blah blah blah I'm bleeding out my Virgina help me.

It never seems to occur to them,, that maybe.. just maybe.. maybe.. they just ****ing suck. Or they aren't as good as they precieved themselves to be. which happens alot in the web development industry. I know that 80% of our business comes from one site and we make close to 100k a month in revenue, the site can't be that ****ing bad. There is another company who I would guess brings in every last bit of business from this site, makes about 150k a month, based in dallas texas, not Singapore or japan.

You have some people in the horse racing game so delusional that that have convinced themselves the only way you can"beat the game" is by breaking even or doing a little worse than even and living off rebates.
And you come here and you honestly believe that the only way you can hook up with a chick is if she knows a friend of yours?

First of all, if you have been here for a year or less, you should not be writing end all be all posts about how game works, when you don't have any. it took me 5 years to get "game". not 10 months. Not saying it should take you 5 .i ahd a unique set of circumstances, but it will take you longer than 10 months before you honestly know what does and does not work.

Social circle is the last and final effective way to get laid/gf/**** buddy. All successful cold approaches (and by successful, I mean F-Close, not a number, not even a kiss) are to be viewed as anomalies and a window into the past, which will subsequently be followed by nostalgia.

you don't even know what success is.

Being successful means you didn't get awkwardly rejected and that you are feeling good with your interactions with woman. With a definition of success that only relies on whether or not you fvcked a woman makes you outcome dependent.

closer. but not quite.

I refer you both to this

Lesson Eleven

Comfortable with himself and his successful habits, he relaxed and reacquainted himself with his friends. He noticed they had lady-problems.

“Why are women female?” one opined. “Everything would be much simpler if they weren’t female and would logically make sense!”

“Indeed! They are not just female but so annoyingly female.”

And on and on they complained.

Years later, the young man found his old friends married or in serious relationships. In every single one, the girl chose him. Each and every one of them was chronically unhappy.

However, they wouldn’t admit it to themselves. They said, “What! You are still single? Oh, poor guy! You will one day progress and get a chick like us.”

“Indeed,” said another. “I just got a new girlfriend and you are still single! Hah!”

And a third said, “We all are married or have girlfriends but you, poor chap, are still single. You need to start listening to our advice…”

And together they said, “Give the woman flowers, chocolate, poetry, declarations of love, your full attention, your promises, your exclusiveness, your time, your dreams, your LIFE and adopt her desires, her plans, her manipulations, and her designs on your future.”

The young man laughed. “Shrug off my Manhood for a girl? No thanks. For…”

“Getting a girl is not the success.”

“Pook! Whatever do you mean by this?”

“Most guys still think like women. They think that by sleeping with lots of women, by having a girlfriend, or by having a wife means they are successful with women.”

“You mean that ‘beggars can’t be choosers.’ You mean for guys to PICK the girl rather than the other way around.”

“You’re closer and that is true. But women date for all sorts of reasons. They marry for all sorts of reasons. They sleep with you for all sorts of reasons. To the addition of the above, you want to find a woman that is interested in YOU.”

“I don’t understand.”

So Pook summoned forth a guy and his girlfriend. The guy, smug, says, “I got a girlfriend now! Dobedobedo!” Pook summoned a single guy into the room. The coupled guy smugly said, “Oh, poor thing! You will get a girl like me one day!”

The single guy bowed his head and looked sad. Alas. He had no chick. Boo hoo.

“Now,” said the Pook, “let us fast forward several years.”

Years later, the guy and his girlfriend got married. Why did they marry? “It seemed like the next thing to do!” Alas, the divorce swiftly came in a few years.

“The error is guys defining their success on having a woman or women. They should rather be concerned with having a woman that DOES actually like them.”

“Why do you say this, Pook? It sounds like a bit more work.”

“Yes, but if you do this then you won’t be like the following:”

“She said she loved me and we got married! Why does she want a divorce now?”

“All my friends thought ‘she was a keeper’. So why is she cheating on me with her ex?”

“She won’t return my repeated calls? What is going on?”

“I do her date ideas and she thought I was ‘boring’. What does that mean?”

Pook shook his head. “When you aim at something long term, you need to make sure the woman like you. Just because she dates you, sleeps with you, and yes, even MARRIES you does not mean she likes you.”

“So what should I do?”

“You define what the dates are at first. She will work with you if she likes you. You can ‘soften’ up later like in a couple of months. If she starts breaking dates, giving you the run around, or seems INFLEXIBLE then that should be warning signs that she doesn’t like you.”

“I see… But what if you’re so awful at DJing that NO woman likes you?”

“Then you’ll have more free time with your buddies. Success cannot be getting a girl because that means failure is being alone. No. Failure is being in an unhappy marriage or a relationship where she has no true interest in you.”

“So the focus must be on you, including her interest?”

“Right. Drop the ‘getting a girl is success’ mantra and you will never be DUMPED.”

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=59150

What are you gonna do? Approach a girl at the bookstore/coffee shop like a ****ing tool? Yea, you are a ****ing tool. Because while your preparing to lower yourself by approaching an american woman, you can be rest assured that there are several other tools posting semi-flirtatious comments on her facebook wall, texting her, etc etc etc etc etc.

this is pretty much how I met every girl I have dated since I have been grown

girl 1: approached her while buying a wallet at dillards
girl 2: approached her while she was my waitress at a sports bar
girl 3: approached at burger king
girl 4: sold her a car
girl 5: sold her a car lol
girl 6: met at an AA meeting
girl 7: met literarly at a bookstore while I was going to pick up a richard dawkins book. ****ed that night. dated for 4 months.
girl 8: met at a strip club
girl 9: met at the horse track res truant
girl 10: met at clocker's corner at the horse track, this is now my fiancee.
girl 11: met in the movie theater lobby while going to watch I robot the day it came out. The sad part about it was I was actually on a date, i had went to get some nachos and candy lol.

Note those are serious relationships not flings. the closest I have come to a social circle is ****ing my ex's cousin when I saw her at a bar about a year later. I wanted to get with her when I was dating her cousin lol. in fact i have never been hooked with a girl by a friend or though a social circle in my entire adult life. I don't have friends that good. all my old friends were too hood looking and if they k new them they wanted them and if they knew me they wanted me. in fact we kept them from each other until we had our hooks into them lol.
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some of you are like the guy who goes to the track and who don't put bets in because they are afraid they might lose the 2 dollars lol. so the **** what. you can only win if you aren't afraid to lose. You would rather walk out with your 20 dollars in your pocket, then risk something and possibly come out with 200.

And **** i'm not perfect. I've been given the national rejection hotline number before. more than once actually lol. I've had drinks thrown at me. I've been harassed, I've been lead on, lied to, rejected nicely, not so nicely, used for money, used for drugs, used to get into a new car lol, i've been used to make another guy jealous, i've been flaked on.. It's going to happen. And if I go back in the playing field it will continue to happen. But that is not an excuse not to play the game. The game is the game is the game. The quicker you realize it, the game doesn't change. You have different players in the game, you have some different tricks but the game is the game. And the game is to be played.

If everyone actually just sat out and did the DJ boot camp this site would run so much smoother. By the time I got down talking to 100 girls I had a cabinet full of plates. I would sit at work not knowing what I was doing, but **** between 5-7 girls, damnit i can find something to do. ?that is the mentality you should have.

As far as night game, I have never had much success with night game but then again I don't go out lol. I never was a big night owl. If it's not a sports bar at night or a nice jazz club I'm out and then I'm not there to look at women.

 

[Falcon25]

This is a great thread.

 

[satelliteparties]

One of the best posts I've ever read on here (Have lurked for years and been on here with other sns in the past.)

Social circle game is how most things happen. I can't speak for everywhere in the world or across the country, but where I live, that's how it happens. That's how I met a really hot girl and dated her. Not exactly, but same concept...we were facebook friends, knew who one another were but didn't know each other, chatted one day, really got along, found one another physically attractive and one thing lead to another. Sure...without the physical attraction she wouldn't have been interested regardless of what circle I belonged to...but that type of commonality gives girls a "He's safe and not a random guy" vibe.

My friend is male model looking...tall, in shape, model looking face...and he sarges because he just likes doing it and has a low success rate despite good game. He got numbers when he was working a customer service job and helping female customers...but as far as random bookstore, cashier type of approaches has no luck despite the fact that he has good game and is as good or better looking than the women he approaches.

Women don't think like us when it comes to meeting people. We see random HB9 on the street and think "I have to meet her, oh I'd love to do her." Woman sees hot guy on street and might check him out but doesn't think "I hope he talks to me" (In most cases anyway, there are exceptions depending on the girl and the situation.)

Social circle game is why you see men that are UG3s with HBs and the HB seems to genuinely like him. That commonality and security is to women like tits and ass are to us.

 

[Doctrine Dark]

Great post, backbreaker! The scenario about the guy being afraid to bet because he's afraid to lose describes me perfectly. Gotta stop focusing on the negatives.

 

[Falcon25]

I agree 100% with TIC. Times have changed. It's downright depressing out there, I will give specific examples later.

 

[Falcon25]

In fact, all game appears to be dead besides social circle game. We are at a point in time where social media, texting, and online dating have officially dismantled the foundation of pick-up and game. Being a random, unknown person will no longer cut it with women, no matter how tight your game is.

Social circle is the last and final effective way to get laid/gf/**** buddy. All successful cold approaches (and by successful, I mean F-Close, not a number, not even a kiss) are to be viewed as anomalies and a window into the past, which will subsequently be followed by nostalgia.

If you aren't in a social clique, you are dead to 99% of women. Dead man walking, alone, disgraced, and shamed. Yea there may be alot of other threads similar to this, but hey, I don't give a flying **** either way. You see, none of us know how bad we really have it. We sit and complain all day (some of us), but the frightening reality is that our minds cannot even comprehend how much of a disadvantage we are at as average males who exists outside of the top 20%. This includes all of us, because I refuse to believe that a top 20% alpha male would so much as google pua/dating tips in order to find this forum in the first place. Doesn't happen. Won't happen. Don't even start feeding me bull****.

What are you gonna do? Approach a girl at the bookstore/coffee shop like a ****ing tool? Yea, you are a ****ing tool. Because while your preparing to lower yourself by approaching an american woman, you can be rest assured that there are several other tools posting semi-flirtatious comments on her facebook wall, texting her, etc etc etc etc etc. Her ego has already surpassed what constitutes the narcissism threshold. You are a tool, just another tool, and she is queen, just another queen.

She will be hit on by the entire field of guys. Alphas, betas, gammas. Short guys, tall guys. Buff guys, skinny guys. ****y-comedy guys, dark bad boy guys. Nerds. Rich guys. Middle class guys. Guys in the top 20%. Guys in the bottom 10 %. The whole field of tools, which includes you

She doesn't have to be particularly beautiful. If she's a 6 or higher, she's queen. A mini-celebrity. Demi-god. Attention *****. Ego maniac. *****, and socialite. As for her plates? She's actually a master of plate theory, and has been since she grew breasts

You see, you clowns all forgot that women are 25 steps ahead of you. Take plate theory for instance. Whatever genius thought that up missed the part where in actuality, even the most average of women have already mastered this by junior high.

You, mere mortal, cannot comprehend with your feeble mind how many times average plane janes get hit on at bars, clubs, coffee shops, grocery stores, gas stations, restaurants.

You, mere mortal, cannot comprehend with your feeble mind how many times the average plain jane gets texted, face-book friended, face-book flirted with, and messaged on any online dating service.

If you have any real experience dealing with women, you will have noticed that they seem very fickle and have short attention spans. This may or may not be true about them, but the real reason is because there's always another guy

There's always, always another guy. Lurking in the shadows, out in the open, it doesn't matter. There is always another guy. There is always another guy. Several other guys. Several other tools, like yourself. You are nothing but a tool in her toolbox which is located in her big toolshed of tools, that she can conveniently choose to use or throw away when she gets bored with the other tools. If you so much as approach a woman, you are a tool
We are tools; pua's, don juans, whatever. All tools in her toolshed.

Why are women so fickle? Because she has a whole toolshed to herself.
Why are women so picky? She can be, silly. She has a whole toolshed to pick from.
Why are women so unfaithful? Silly tool, she has a toolshed.

THIS IS A PHENOMENAL POST, BELONGS IN ARCHIVES. Simply brilliant, only those of us who have success w women can understand this post. Outstanding.

 

[drak_ool]

FAIL

Just because you suck at game doesn't mean it s dead. I would agree with you that social game is very important. However I personally rely primarily on day/night game. Of the last 10 girls I hooked up with, only two of them were part of my social circle.

I like to walk into a bar and start hunting. Is it easy? Not always. Do I get rejected a lot? Of course! But I enjoy the challenge. I love refining my game by seeing what works and what doesn't.

Before you say day/night game is dead, let me ask you how many girls have you approached in the last week? In the last month?

I m seriously tired of guys declaring game dead when they haven't even barely scratched the surface. Do your homework and come back in a couple years, let s see if your success rate doesn't improve.

 

[backbreaker]

Great post, backbreaker! The scenario about the guy being afraid to bet because he's afraid to lose describes me perfectly. Gotta stop focusing on the negatives.

I was at the track yesterday with my son and my girl, while she is a horse wman she doesn't really gamble. Anyway yesterdaty in the first race of the day this one particular horse caught her eye and she put 20 dollars on him. Horse was somewhere around 13 to 1. It was a price. I didn't like the wager but **** it wasn't my money. actually it was lol but that's not the point. it was her wager.

so, they come out to the track, horse has to get his shoe replaced. this takes like 5 mintues and teh whole times he's bellyhooing about how she should go cancel her freaking 20 dollar wager. like this is her life savings or some ****. Anyway i talk her into not canceling the wager, i'm trying to teach her a lesson. Frankly I knew the horse wasn't going to win, that wasn't the point.

however, the race starts, the horse takes the lead, it's a mile race, they hit the turn, and I'll be damned if the jockey didn'try to give the field the slip at the 8th pole and opened up! i was like oh snap she might actually win this wager. Now she's going crazy and our son because she is going crazy is just going ape**** for no apparent reason, hell i'm cheering them home, i had no money in the raced, but i'll be damned if she wanw't buying dinner if the horse won. that would have paid 280 dollars for you non horse racing playing people btw.

anyway, the favorite who I liked but was too low odds for me to take, finally gets his act together and literary wins the race by about a half a nose at the wire. She is heartbroken lol. She is down, "now I know i should have canceled that wager!". I say look.. 1 minute ago you were jumping up and down with excitement and now you are saying you made a bad wager and you should have canceled? you were 2 inches from being 280 dollars richer. that was a damn good wager, because you used all your judgment can came up with a pick that i couldn't have dreamed of and i do this **** for a living. you just didn't win. so what you lost 20 dollars. You had fun and if you keep making that same wager.. you are going to win a few.

The point is, stop being so outcome dependent. you will win some, you will lose some. You will probably end up losing more than you will win, but you will win some. You will lose photo finishes, you will lose races that you should not have lost.. about a month ago I had a horse on the lead and the jockey just ****ing fell off the horse. you can't do anything about that **** but chalk it up to the game. I have had horses slipo and fall down. not get hurt, just fall down because of a wet turf course. I have had tellers punch the wrong numbers on horses I should have won. One day uI was literary tying my confirmation code for a wager that would have paid me quite nicely, only to have my son trip over the computer cable and cut the power off, only to cut it on to find out i won the wager i didn't place. the fun is not in the result but the game itself. the results will take care of themselves.

Quite frankely, if you are one of those guys that want to declare anything dead, this isn't the site for you. I seriously don't know why you are here in the first place. This is not a place where we come together and make excuses or ***** about the difficulties of laying the opposite sex. This is a place where we come to hone or skills and to learn certain truths and to become better at what we are doing.

 

[Doctrine Dark]

Haha...that story was cool. And I totally understand your point. Like they say: "there can be no success without failure", so I need to just start putting myself out there and stop worrying about failing so much. I never try, so that in itself is failing without giving myself a chance. I'd rather try than sit here and do nothing forever. Thanks again, dude.

 

[IKO69]

You guys should go and read TIC's approach thread. I take my hat off to him, he at least went out there and tried. That automatically gets my respect, however what became apparent was his tone as the thread unfolded he started becoming more and more depressed and full of despair. Therein lies the problem. In order to be successful at this you have to be willing to give yourself a chance. If you think you can't and everyone hates you (women in this case), don't you think it's going to show? It will become apparent in every single interaction with the opposite sex you have. You have to accept yourself, no bull****, before someone else will. Why would these women, who have all these men interested in them, be interested in a person who believes they have no value? If you believe you have no value then why do you want someone in your life? So you can grovel and kiss their feet? It would be a pretty miserable, one sided relationship because you'd be at her beck and call not wanting to let her go because she'd be all you have. Taking it a step further how can ANYONE, man or woman, respect someone like this? You see where I am going here? That mindset has to go before you can even THINK about having a healthy relationship with the opposite sex. Until you do you'll just be sabotaging yourself unless you happen to hit it off with a lunny, in which case hide all the sharp silverware.

The thread no matter how you slice it screams of "I'll just lay down" instead of doing something about it. Most men have this problem, it's normal. Do you want to do something about it or just surrender like most accepting whatever comes along?

On the subject of meeting women through your social circle: Obviously. That is one of the most tried and true ways of going about it. You want to have a social circle not only for meeting women, also for having guy friends so you can go out and do things instead of trapping yourself at home with your book of voodoo spells and anger at the outside world. Women want to know you have friends and the kind you have so they won't think you're some kind of mutant. So yes, if you don't have friends, try to find some. If you can't, take the initiative. It will pay dividends in the long run- and have a broad range of friends, not just one's that belong to a particular niche: this way you meet more people.

 

[satelliteparties]

The reason the OP is getting some haters is because it goes against the whole "Ugly guy can get any girl he wants by sarging her and using the right game" myth.

So some of you like the hunt and the thrill of the chase and occasionally getting an exception lay out of it, good for you.

The biggest pimps I know wouldn't even know what the word AFC or kino means. They wouldn't be on this site in the first place. Women in their social circles come to them because of their looks or value within the circle.

 

[drak_ool]

You guys should go and read TIC's approach thread. I take my hat off to him, he at least went out there and tried

But how long did he try for? 10 months is nothing! It took me years to hone my skills.

The OP's problem, like so many other guys on here, is that he expected game to be a magical cure to his problem of not getting laid (enough). When that didn't happen, he became disillusioned and started blaming Game for his shortcomings. Instead of playing blame games, the OP should work on improving as a person first, then as a DJ

 

[IKO69]

The reason the OP is getting some haters is because it goes against the whole "Ugly guy can get any girl he wants by sarging her and using the right game" myth.

So some of you like the hunt and the thrill of the chase and occasionally getting an exception lay out of it, good for you.

The biggest pimps I know wouldn't even know what the word AFC or kino means. They wouldn't be on this site in the first place. Women in their social circles come to them because of their looks or value within the circle.

Ever see how some pimps look like? They can be pretty damn ugly. Yeah they know how to handle women but it's not like they just suddenly woke up and knew how to do it. That's the point. You can get better. Telling yourself your hopeless and spazzing out isn't going to get you there I'm afraid.

But how long did he try for? 10 months is nothing! It took me years to hone my skills.

The OP's problem, like so many other guys on here, is that he expected game to be a magical cure to his problem of not getting laid (enough). When that didn't happen, he became disillusioned and started blaming Game for his shortcomings. Instead of playing blame games, the OP should work on improving as a person first, then as a DJ

Absolutely & he was up until now. Someone has to tell him in the begging you can expect more failures than success. It's like riding a bike or doing anything else at first. No one just wakes up an expert at it. You have to give yourself a chance. By actually going out and practicing daily he's already ahead of most.

 

[backbreaker]

Ever see how some pimps look like? They can be pretty damn ugly. Yeah they know how to handle women but it's not like they just suddenly woke up and knew how to do it. That's the point. You can get better. Telling yourself your hopeless and spazzing out isn't going to get you there I'm afraid.



Absolutely & he was up until now. Someone has to tell him in the begging you can expect more failures than success. It's like riding a bike or doing anything else at first. No one just wakes up an expert at it. You have to give yourself a chance. By actually going out and practicing daily he's already ahead of most.

I signed up this site april o2. the light bulb in my head really didn't start flickering utnil what.. about april of 05 and it it didn't go off utnil really the beginning of 06.

it's not like i found this site in april of 02, and i did my 100 approached and by june i was swimming in poon or anything god no. game starts from the inside out. It took me some years, some studying.. I styed this damn site like it was an ap class. This is not a community college course, this is a grad school. This is not some **** you can pick up in 6 months and go along. It takes work. And you will fall, and you pick yourself up and brush yourself off and keep going,. and you will fall again and you keep going. until sooner or later you will stop falling as much as you used to. You know I did not have a successful approach, not one, ****ing successful approach fopr my first 3 and a half years on this site lol?

Study this **** until your mindset changes.

There are thousands of posts here, not to mention the DJ bible. In light of today being Easter sunday, you wouldn't read the real bible in a month, throw it down and the first time something bad happened to you proclaim that Christianity was not true because you weren't seeing what you wanted to see happen in your life when you wanted to see it happen? Now I'm not Christan but the point is the same.

for you to make any real changes in your life, you have to commit to this ****. IN away, i was lucky when I cam here. I didn't call it luck when I came here, a girl did me so ****ing bad it was ridiculous she strung me along for damn near a year, i wanted her so god damn bad, then one night called me drunk while getting ass driven telling me "you wish this were you don't you" just to spite me.. on my birthday no less. At that point I was emotionally bankrupt. All I knew when I typed in this site for the firs time.. that feeling how I felt that night, was no longer an option for me. I don't care what had to be done. And i mean that **** hurt. For me, there was no alternative method. This was going to work come hell or high water. It was just going to take what it took. I had tried everything I knew how to do and my "girl" was getting pounded in the ass by some dude on my birthday when she was supposed to be out with me.

 

[Chronocidal]

What's a "tool" in this context?