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[horaholic]

Horaholic are you referring to me?? LOL What does that have to do with anything? I'm average height, weight, appearance. Nothing special really. I have a photo uploaded on my profile here I think.

I was just politely wondering if you were a fatty... and yes, that has EVERYTHING to do with anything, btw.

You're making the guy even more shy by doing this. He's 22, and obviously a huge AFC, possibly even a virgin, so help him out, if you like him. You're 29, and Im sure you've been around the block enough to know what to do here. Just grab him by his balls, since HE obviously wont, and hump each other already. Worry about a 'relationship' later. He's not going anywhere, he's too AFC. You'll have him wrapped around your finger doing your every whim before you know it, but at least throw him a bone in the meantime.

Live up to your name for once! lol.

 

[Mr CIDH]

ThE piNk biG And SmAll LetTers looK Like yOu Are 15. Not 29. But yah you never know with women....

:flowers:

Are you afraid of sex PlAyThInG? Is that why you pursue him?

 

[pLaYtHiNg]

KRUT - The few guys I have dated have all waited for me to be ready, and I was ready and comfortable within a relationship situation before anything happened. So worrying about a relationship after the fact is something new to me.

DJDamage - We didn't have sex because I wasn't ready. He was every bit as willing to have sex as he was to wait. It was totally up to me, and I really like that he is respectful and understanding. In a way, that says to me I am worth more than sex to him, otherwise he would have pressured me, I think.

KontrollerX - Thank you for your post. I had never thought about things in that way before. I am not completely sure how/why it is determined that it is not worth the wait, but I think I've got a grasp on it. She either wants you or not. I definitely do.

Horaholic - No, I'm not a fatty. According to my BMI I am slightly overweight, (5'4" 150 lbs) but not gross I don't think. I used to be really skinny! I am somewhat uncomfortable with my body now because I think men will judge me for not being a "10". He is definitely no virgin, if anything he's got much more experience than I do. I've been with three guys my entire life, all of whom I were in relationships with. (3 yrs, 5 yrs, 4 yrs). In each case I came to the conclusion that the relationship was NOT what I wanted and left. Reasons varied, but I was always the one who called it quits.

Mr CIDH - In my previous relationships I've been an outright nympho. Def not afraid of sex. The better I'm treated the more I WANT to put out, it seems. (Which is why this guy has me "on" 24/7)

In my current situation I feel quite vulnerable, as I have strong feelings for this man. I just adore him to pieces. Tonight he texted me for the first time since he left for Job Corps. (I've been giving him plenty of space and not texting him unless he texts me, I don't want to seem clingy, but he says it doesn't bother him that I sometimes am). I think I may have made a mistake towards the end of our conversation, so, here's the jest of it...

HIM: Hey it's about Lights Out for me. but I was just saying good night I've been doing a lot though. Lots of meetings and not a lot of time. Well goodnight.

ME: I was just thinking about u. I missed talking to you, Babe. I hope you're having lots of fun! I'm doing ok, Sis gave Doo away ='( Goodnight, Sweetie. (Doo is a dog).

HIM: Have a good night at work! I have to be up at five thirty every morning so I'm trying to sleep. Well night night.

ME: Thanks, Babe. U made my night! Sweet Dreamz

HIM: Yeah I'm missing you too. And yeah so far it's pretty cool not a lot of fun though. And that sux about Doo Man, I can't wait to get off campus lol but it's cool

ME: Let me know when u want to get away, u know I will come get u. We'll have fun

HIM: Well it's hard to text but I will when I can. And I'll chat til Lights Out.

HIM: Ok I will for sure I can't wait already And I really want to relieve stress too. Buddy of mine is getting a bunch of nude pics from chicks lol

ME: I can help relieve stress lol

HIM: lol yeah that would be nice And I've been smoking on campus lol just not often and we have to hide it. Lol but some of the teachers don't mind if you do. It's cool.

ME: O u rebel lol So I shouldn't wait until I am married? Not sure I want to neways

HIM: Lol yeah I am and you can wait if you want to. Lol but that can be awhile. But whatever you want to do

ME: U know I want u lol I just don't want to hurt my chances of ever having a relationship with u. On the other hand I'll do what I need to get it. (!)

HIM: Well it's Lights Out now so I'm going to bed now. Night night talk to you tomorrow

ME: I guess that came off as desperate... Text me tomorrow, Goodnight


Okay so the last thing I want to do is look desperate, but I hadn't realized how that may seem before I sent it. Oh well.

I've totally decided to go for it. I've thought about it, and the progress in our relationship will be quite slow (too slow for me) without sex or possibly not at all!! What the heck? I want it, he wants it. There's a first time for everything, and I try not to live life with regrets. I may regret it if I don't. According to most of you guys here, it could substantially increase my value to him, I just don't want to seem like a slvt or that I do this all the time. I've only known him for two months, I don't want him to think I'm easy!

If this evolves into the dreaded Friends With Benefits situation I just want to know, does it ever become more?

Last thing: Can you guys please explain the acronyms you use? Such as AFC, ASD, OP etc. Thanks for all your help, fellas. Now I just need the opportunity... and an easy way to come on to him without being really uncomfortable. (Serious) Suggestions?? Oh and why is there a limit to the number of posts you can have in a day? It's kind of aggravating! I can't reply as soon as I'd like.

 

[KontrollerX]

"Thank you for your post. I had never thought about things in that way before. I am not completely sure how/why it is determined that it is not worth the wait, but I think I've got a grasp on it. She either wants you or not. I definitely do."

Rollo's brilliant advice here cuts through all the bullsh!t and gets guys the best possible deal for their time and helps guys get what they want but not only that it also helps the woman as well get what she wants equally by making her "put up or shut up" as the saying goes.

Meaning if she really wants a relationship then there is no need for "waiting for when the time is right" or any other such stalling nonsense a devious game's playing woman who is not really interested can try and pull to extend her interaction with the man in order to get something else out of him that doesn't benefit him at all but benefits her greatly such as stringing him along just long enough to get emotional support and advice for some issue until she is ready to cut him loose and go search for a guy she really wants to let bang the crap out of her.

Now we here do understand that when women are really interested in a guy for a relationship they think that well if I have sex with the guy right away he'll think I'm a slvt and then not give me the relationship I really want to have with him so in order to not come off that way I'll suggest we wait until the time is right.

Problem is some women drag out the waiting game 6 months to a year or even years in some cases which wastes both parties valueable time and youth so that the woman who really wants to be with that guy can be assured that she's not going to come off as a slvt in his mind and for women like this I really do sympathize and understand where you're coming from as in today's pvssified culture the true information is even hidden from you all to serve radical feminism's interests so I'll tell you the truth.

If you don't want to come off as a slvt not putting out on the first or second date is definitely cool and understandable but if your man is not up to his nuts in your guts by the third date and he's a man that knows the score and his own worth well then honey you are going to be nexted as he's going to take it as a sign of disinterest. You'll know if you've landed a weak male also known here as an AFC or rather Average Frustrated Chump if he continues to see you after that three date period has passed with no sex.

"Last thing: Can you guys please explain the acronyms you use? Such as AFC, ASD, OP etc. Thanks for all your help, fellas. Now I just need the opportunity... and an easy way to come on to him without being really uncomfortable. (Serious) Suggestions?? Oh and why is there a limit to the number of posts you can have in a day? It's kind of aggravating! I can't reply as soon as I'd like."

Yeah we've got a retarded 10 post rule here probably due to bandwidth and cost concerns but supposedly we've got it because it will somehow up the quality of the posting here but anyway if you are prevented from posting you'll either have to wait a day to post again or a few hours, its a highly confusing post allowance system.

As for AFC I covered that term earlier, the other ones you listed...

ASD- Anti Slvt Defense (which can take many forms. Its where a woman who wants to have sex with a guy refuses in order to not come off looking like a slvt. Our job as DJ's is to make you all feel comfortable enough and not judged so that you will drop the panties and let us into the promised land.

OP- Just stands for original poster as in someone that started a topic here. If it stands for anything other than that I'm sure someone else will chime in eventually.

Another one you may see around that confused the sh!t out of me for a while was IOI and that simply means indicator of interest which is one of the things you chiquitas do to let us all know that you're buying what we're selling.

 

[pLaYtHiNg]

Well he called me tonight!! After two days of not a lot of communication, (I caved and sent him two texts to say hi, last night and tonight), he called me to tell me how he's doing, and to ask how I am. He did the majority of the talking... I didn't get a whole lot of opportunities to flirt. (Ya know, he was talking about boring stuff, like Job Corps).

I was just tickled pink that he called. He knows that I hate phone calls, and he'd rather not text, but I didn't feel uncomfortable on the phone like I usually do. We talked for half an hour but then I had to cut it short to go to work.

I'd hoped he would ask me to come visit him, but his phone call seemed to have no purpose other than just to play catch up a little bit. He asked me to go to dinner with him (in a month when he can leave), so I have a date. It'll be our first dinner date so I'm excited!

Is it bad thing that he didn't seem to flirt with me? I'd really wanted to tell him I made up my mind, (about the sex thing), but it didn't quite fit into the conversation...

 

[The Logical Player]

Well he called me tonight!! After two days of not a lot of communication, (I caved and sent him two texts to say hi, last night and tonight), he called me to tell me how he's doing, and to ask how I am. He did the majority of the talking... I didn't get a whole lot of opportunities to flirt. (Ya know, he was talking about boring stuff, like Job Corps).

I was just tickled pink that he called. He knows that I hate phone calls, and he'd rather not text, but I didn't feel uncomfortable on the phone like I usually do. We talked for half an hour but then I had to cut it short to go to work.

I'd hoped he would ask me to come visit him, but his phone call seemed to have no purpose other than just to play catch up a little bit. He asked me to go to dinner with him (in a month when he can leave), so I have a date. It'll be our first dinner date so I'm excited!

Is it bad thing that he didn't seem to flirt with me? I'd really wanted to tell him I made up my mind, (about the sex thing), but it didn't quite fit into the conversation...

for someone who says shes a 29 year old woman, you have absolutely NO knowledge of the dating game, and I stand by my earlier statement - you and him are both morons, and cannot be helped

just look at you, its not like you have taken or plan to take any advice that anyone gives you, and I bet same goes for him

both absolutely retarded, seriously

 

[pLaYtHiNg]

TLP - You know what's retarded? People who CAN'T READ! I did post that I am going to take the advice given and f*** his brains out, just as soon as I get the opportunity. He is in Job Corps and can't leave or have visitors for a few weeks. I have plenty of time to plan how I'm going to make my move and plant the seed in his head that it is going to happen.

I really don't have any knowledge of the dating game, that is true. I've been tied up in LTRs since I was 17. The last 7 months of my life have been the longest period of time I've been single. I am highly selective and incredibly willing to do anything for the ones I love. So yeah if not being a slvt means I'm a moron then kudos to me.

As for him, who are you to judge? Seriously you sound like a catty woman talking sh!t behind some other person's back. Maybe you've been spending just a little too much time hanging around girls trying to get laid.

So back to my situation... thinking up ways I can seal the deal, here guys, without acting like the horndog I am. I don't want to intimidate him!! Obviously he's shy so I think a subtle approach would work best. If ya'll are up on your game I'm sure you can offer me something.

 

[TheAnswer_]

just bang him.... my god this thread is pissing me off. This dude you are trying to get with is gay or not interested. Either that or he is extremely shy with his sexuality. No friends of mine would be this scared to have sex with a girl. I know a lot of AFCs. Well, you gotta intiate this and no guy will be intimidated by a female sexually if he wants her. Lets say I pick a girl up and the first thing she does is unzip my pants and start to blow me. Do you honestly think a guy will stop her from doing this? If he is truely interested then he will let her do the business. Just do it and don't be scared of intimidating him. If he wants it then there shouldn't be any fear. Go for it. Timing shouldn't matter honestly.

Not trying to come off as a a$$. Sorry if I did

 

[Cry For Love]

so, did you f*ck him already?

 

[pLaYtHiNg]

So, here's the update.

I stopped texting him and DIDN'T cave. Almost a week to the day he called me, all wondering what I've been up to and tellin' me about how he's doing and all. (He was all telling me that he has no privacy there... LOL I think he was throwing out some hints that he's in the mood). Soooo, I think we're gonna get together tomorrow... he can only leave for like, an hour or two... but I get PAID tomorrow... so the privacy thing might not be an issue... Hehehe ::evil thoughts::

So, I'm thinking of making my intentions quite obvious and wearing a very short skirt... and who knows what else... I hope he doesn't flake out on me. He was already saying he needs to do laundry and stuff... (I'm like, wtf?? LOL)

So keep your fingers crossed for me, fellas!

 

[Daydream Engineer]

I like you feminine insight, it brings a unique and fresh viewpoint on this forum. You type in pink, well i type in BLUE! Azudragon means bluedragon so its only natural haha. I also type in blue because it stands out in the sea of black text, and because its me, That's how i role. Anyways, im glad you didn't cave,and wearing a very short skirt shows that you are in the mood. Better yet, if he comes over spill something on your shirt, take it off in front of him, and see what happens. Make your intentions very obvious, if he has a manhood he won't resist. Today, was payday for you, so Wampi Du!


P.S Does Plaything = Playgirl?

P.P.S Why havent any of the guys on this forum trying to practice their internet game on you haha?


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[Cry For Love]

I like you feminine insight, it brings a unique and fresh viewpoint on this forum. You type in pink, well i type in BLUE! Azudragon means bluedragon so its only natural haha. I also type in blue because it stands out in the sea of black text, and because its me, That's how i role. Anyways, im glad you didn't cave,and wearing a very short skirt shows that you are in the mood. Better yet, if he comes over spill something on your shirt, take it off in front of him, and see what happens. Make your intentions very obvious, if he has a manhood he won't resist. Today, was payday for you, so Wampi Du!


P.S Does Plaything = Playgirl?

P.P.S Why havent any of the guys on this forum trying to practice their internet game on you haha?


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lol dude thats already a typical porn movie plot

 

[pLaYtHiNg]

He totally flaked on me. No explanation, but whatever, I don't care. I've even come to expect this from him. I never got the chance to wear that short skirt. His loss.

None of the guys here have tried their internet game... they know I'm on to them... jk There are a lot of people who don't want me here, but I feel I'll get the best advice from men, not women.

Strangely enough... my ex, (the one in jail) called me last night. He's been clean for 8 months now... and talking to him was very interesting! He apologized over and over for all the things he did and begged me for another chance, but I am resisting. It does seem as though he's a totally new person though, and he was very open and honest about himself, his feelings and the past. It was good to talk about some of the resentment I felt towards him. I'm not saying we're going to get back together, but it was healing to be able to get some of that out.

I am happy and content with my life as a single girl, but there are days I def get lonely and wish I had someone to love and spend time with. I figure good things are worth waiting for.

P.S. "pLaYtHiNg" is actually the name of my car! (I didn't know what other name to use when I registered, and I usually use this one on the Automotive forums. I am kind of a car nut)!

 

[pLaYtHiNg]

So, any advice on where I should go from here? I think I have no choice other than to just keep on keeping on. Ya know?

 

[Igetit!]

Well,maybe something important came up and he couldn't make it. However,he should at least have the decency to call. Anyway,on to a more important issue.....ARE YOU EVER GOING TO STOP TYPING IN PINK,AND JUST USE THE STANDARD BLACK COLOR???

We got it,you're a girl. You like lolli pops,rainbows,and unicorns. You think pink is pretty. Ok,point taken. I would have replied to your thread 2 or 3 weeks ago,but I couldn't see it. I have to squint and get 5 inches in front of my computer screen just to make out what you're saying. Man,it's hard to read your posts.

 

[pLaYtHiNg]

IGetiT - Does this help? No I'm never going to stop typing in pink! I can read it just fine, maybe it's your monitor??

Don't be quite so presumptive... I don't like lollipops. LOL

I don't think something 'more important' came up... he just has a history of flaking out on occasion... I'm not worried about it... he'll contact me sooner or later and act like nothing happened. He's not my boyfriend, so what do I care?? LOL

 

[Igetit!]

IGetiT - Does this help? No I'm never going to stop typing in pink! I can read it just fine, maybe it's your monitor??

Ah,that's the spirit! I like the little bit of fire in your "No I'm never going to stop typing in pink!" remark. And yeah,that actually does help out.....a little.

Don't be quite so presumptive... I don't like lollipops. LOL

Don't like lollipops,huh? Well,I guess two out of three ain't bad.

I don't think something 'more important' came up... he just has a history of flaking out on occasion... I'm not worried about it... he'll contact me sooner or later and act like nothing happened. He's not my boyfriend, so what do I care?? LOL

You see this last remark of yours here? This is where us guys and you differ. You said that this guy has a "history" of flaking,which means that you have a "history" of putting up with the flaking. My guess is that it's the flaking that keeps you interested. Does that sound crazy? Illogical? If it does,then good. I'm right. Now us guys,we wouldn't put up with that. If she flakes once,ok. Twice,now she's pushing it. Three times,then it's a NEXT!

We don't like having our time wasted. I'm sure that you don't care anything about that,as long as you get some kind of emotional jolt out of it.
Hey,I'm not saying that that good or bad,that's just the way it is.

I don't understand why you're looking for advice on what to do now. You said he has a history of doing this. Just continue to do whatever it was you did the last 5000 times he flaked. Business as usual,right?

 

[pLaYtHiNg]

Yup, business as usual. It's not like we had specific plans... just plans to make plans to get together tomorrow.

I "put up" with it because he's not my boyfriend and I'm in no position to judge anyone. I just let him be. I have confronted him a few times about his 'disappearing' act but he always has some lame ass excuse. (I lost my phone)! Seriously, I have thought more than once or twice about never contacting him again because it IS disrespectful and rude, he could at least tell me to go f*** myself, and then we'd have an understanding. Everytime I stop contact, he will resume it. Usually acting like nothing happened.

I'm willing to bet I'm more lenient with him because I like him a great deal... when we do hang out. I haven't seen him in two weeks because of Job Corps, so I'm guessing that has something to do with it. Still, a phone call or a text would have been appreciated.

I didn't sit around by the phone all day yesterday waiting for him... I went about my business and ran my errands, paid my bills and carried on as usual... Of course, I would have made time for him... if he'd ever call...

We'll see where it goes, but I am losing interest very quickly.

 

[Igetit!]

OH SNAP!! He gave you the "I lost my phone" line? That hilarious! I thought only girls used that line. Wow,this forum never ceases to amaze me. I know you didn't intend for this to happen,but the majority of people here will look at the way this guy treats you,then go out and use it on other girls. You know why? Because it works. And you are the proof of that. I figured this out a loooong time ago. If a woman complains about your behavior,then you must be doing something right. Uh yeah,that wasn't a type-o. I said,"if a woman is complaining about your behavior,then you must be doing something RIGHT. It doesn't matter what a woman says......as long as she continues to be in your presense to say it,you're good. This guy is doing EXACTLY what he need to do to keep you interested. In fact,if he were to start listening to you,and do what it is that you think you want him to do,you'd lost interest in him a long time ago. I know you're going to deny this,but it doesn't matter. We go by what women do,NOT what they say. You've been SAYING this,and SAYING that,but what you've actually DONE is continue waiting and hanging around waiting for him to give you a morsel of his time.

I'm actually glad you're here. You and this guy you're interested in make a good teaching tool.

Alright,it's bedtime for me. I know it's 9 in the morning,but I just got off working a 12 hour shift,and boy,I'm tired. Anyway,good luck with your situation.

 

[KontrollerX]

"I usually use this one on the Automotive forums. I am kind of a car nut"

Interesting.

Kind of a random question but you ever date a bar bouncer before?

And no before you ask I am not nor ever have been a bar bouncer.

"None of the guys here have tried their internet game... they know I'm on to them... jk"

Or perhaps they are onto you...jk.

"There are a lot of people who don't want me here, but I feel I'll get the best advice from men, not women."

How many close female friends do you have? Just curious.

"Strangely enough... my ex, (the one in jail) called me last night. He's been clean for 8 months now... and talking to him was very interesting! He apologized over and over for all the things he did and begged me for another chance, but I am resisting. It does seem as though he's a totally new person though, and he was very open and honest about himself, his feelings and the past. It was good to talk about some of the resentment I felt towards him. I'm not saying we're going to get back together, but it was healing to be able to get some of that out."

You know its always so heartwarming to me that whenever I watch those MSNBC prison shows, specifically the visitation episodes the wives and girlfriends of these convicted criminal SCUM go out of their way to assure us all that underneath their stone cold killer husband or boyfriend's violent demeanor he's really got a heart of gold.

Talk about standing by your man.