New Deicide Approach and Lifestyle Journal

[Deicide]

I haven't been going out as much, but I think taking time off from active pick-up has helped me out. I'm starting to just enjoy being out and if there is an opportunity, I can go get it.
October 28
I went out throughout the local community putting up flyers for language tutoring lessons. I just did one approach on a HB 6 Petite at a grocery store, she seemed happy I approached her. I talked about the bakery and deli with her(went indirect) and I found out she was still doing homeschool high school stuff. I don't mess with women unless they're 18 or older.
October 29
I went to the store after I had lunch at a restaraunt with my family. Then I went to my favorite place to get ice cream. While I was there, I saw an attractive young woman sitting by herself.
HB 6 Brunette
I was way too hesitant and nervous with her because I thought she might be under 18 by the way she looked. Not to mention restaraunt approaching makes me more nervous than usual. So, I was setting myself up for negativity.
I went up to her, said Hey, how're you doing? I commented something about how her food smelled, and went to the bathroom. Then I came back to the table because I thought "Rejection and reaction be damned" and just went for it. I asked her what kind of phone she had and commented a little about it Internet use with it, and asked about the ring on her ring finger, and she said it was an engagement ring. I then mentioned something about that and told her it was nice talking to her, she had no answer.

 

[Deicide]

November 1
HB 7 Brunette
I was walking at a retail store when I saw her looking at movies. This time, I was nervous, but I used the environment to my advantage.
I said Hey, and she responded by saying Hey, how're you doing? I said good and then said that you must be looking for a movie. She then told me what movie it was and explained to me what it was. I said Wow, that really doesn't sound like a romance movie at all. I didn't figure you'd be into that kind of thing. And we got on the subject of watching movies that we haven't seen all the parts of. This was a normal conversation with no negging. She mentioned that she was from out of state and was visiting her boyfriend. I really believe I could've got this girl to hang out with me if she was single. But things happen, and I was glad to have talked to her.

 

[Deicide]

November 3
I went to the store again and got some mints.
HB 6 Young Brunette
This was a work of improve. I told her Hey, how're you doing. No facial change or emotional response for her. So I just commented on the juices in the section we were in. She wasn't responding so I asked her where that smell was coming from(chicken), and she said that was hers. And I said "Oh, that's what brought me over here" She laughed and that broke the ice. I told he that I preferred the buffalo chunks in the deli section instead of the chicken. And she said that it was the first time she had eaten that kind of chicken in a while. I asked who she was cooking for, and she said her boyfriend. I told er that I was surprised she wasn't cooking for him instead of buying food. And I said it was nice talking to her and left.

 

[Deicide]

November 4
Another trip to the store, except this time it's a Friday.
HB Athelete 7 with friend
I wanted to approach her earlier but she was with her friend, and my lack of approach experience with multiple sets makes me a little more hesitant than usual to do these sets. Still, I know I can do them
She was in the soap aisle looking for lotion when I asked about what kind she was looking for. I mentioned that my Mom liked a certain kind that she didn't like, and her friend interrupts me. I try to get back into the conversation but it all goes downhill from there. My insecurities got the best of me as I asked another question and they walked off.
HG 6 Hispanic
I walked up to her and asked how she was doing and she smiled, and mentioned that she didn't speak much English. Then we got into a Spanish conversation where I found out she had a husband and kids. Still, a good time.
HB 6 Make-up
I saw her in the make up section and I was hesitant about approaching her because she was in the make up section and I had no business there. So when she was leaving the aisle i approached her. Made her laugh, talked about life and jobs, I asked her if she wanted to eat ice cream sometime to which she said she was taken.

 

[Deicide]

November 5
Saturday! It was a time to go to the store again.
Why oh why am I so hesitant to approach? Especially when there are two or more women together?
HB 7 Young Blonde and HB 7 Young Brunette
I saw them in the store and had a lot of doubts about approaching them, worrying that they'd walk off if I caught them in the wrong situation. I finally did approach them when they got in line. It didn't turn out so bad.
They were receptive to me approaching them and I talked about their clothing, guessed jobs, found out they were taking pictures, talked about cameras. Made them laugh a lot. lol Came to a silence point and asked about a football game, which then transitioned me to talk about how I was going to watch MMA tonight, they didn't like MMA. I ended up asking the HB 7 Blonde to get some ice cream and she said she had a boyfriend.

 

[Deicide]

November 10
Moral of today's lesson: Don't wait 5 DAYS to go into approachable public places. It makes you weird and slightly misanthropic.
I'm unemployed so I have to save money and be careful about my sarging ventures.

I saw this attractive HB 7 Young brunette in the card aisle and it set off the "Oh Damn alarm!" in my head, but I couldn't bring myself to approach her immediately. I was nervous and not even looking for cards, so I had no reason to be there.
I went and acted like I was looking at cards, subtly circling her to try and see her face to see how old she was. I got close to her and said Hey, she smiled and said Hey back, and then an older man came up. I got a little scared because I thought it might've been her father and she may've been underage. NOT THE CASE!

She went to another card aisle and I found her in another card aisle after she walked off. I asked if she had found the a card yet, and she said yes. I mentioned the X-mas cards and how there had been so many over there. I asked if she went to school around here and she said she was out of school. I talked about how school can be so much work and how I was glad to be done with college since last semester. I mentioned her wearing shorts/a skirt and how cold it was to be doing such a thing. I said her hat must've meant she was an artistic type person and she said it wasn't, she was into other things. I mentioned how I liked learning languages. She said she had to leave to get ready for her friend's birthday party.
This girl was not into me, even though I made her laugh.

On the bright side, I set up a date with a former high school classmate of mine. Even though I'm not that successful with cold approach game, it's done wonders for my social circle game, even though I don't focus on it too much.

What do I need to say to make women hot for me? That's something I need to learn to do, how to flirt with women properly. I've no idea how to do it. I'm getting alot better at my conversation skills but my confidence/approach anxiety are at similar levels as they've always been.

 

[Vice]

How do you dress/groom yourself, dude? This plays a factor.

And don't "float" around while you gather the balls to approach. Just do it. Because all you're doing is building up more and more anxiety which in turn she will feel, and make HER anxious.

These two factors may be why they're gently rejecting you like this.

 

[Vice]

HB 6 Make-up
I saw her in the make up section and I was hesitant about approaching her because she was in the make up section and I had no business there. So when she was leaving the aisle i approached her. Made her laugh, talked about life and jobs, I asked her if she wanted to eat ice cream sometime to which she said she was taken.

There is a reason for you to go there: you saw her and wanted to meet her.

Remember, girls know what's up when they get approached by dudes.

They appreciate it when guys are clear with their intentions. Think of how many other guys are out there chatting her up about her job and that kind of boring sh*t. BORING. You were in a makeup aisle; that's fertile ground for some interesting topics.

How many other guys are clear about what they want from her, and don't try to hide it? Don't be sheepish. Be bold. Stand out.

And quit this "eat ice cream sometime" horse sh*t. That's asking them for a date right away, and it's obviously putting them on the defensive. It's also not very concrete. Either instant date, or just get their contact info. I used to ask girls if they wanted to go "salsa dancing", and it took me well over a year to learn what I was doing wrong.

 

[Deicide]

There is a reason for you to go there: you saw her and wanted to meet her.

Remember, girls know what's up when they get approached by dudes.

They appreciate it when guys are clear with their intentions. Think of how many other guys are out there chatting her up about her job and that kind of boring sh*t. BORING. You were in a makeup aisle; that's fertile ground for some interesting topics.

How many other guys are clear about what they want from her, and don't try to hide it? Don't be sheepish. Be bold. Stand out.

And quit this "eat ice cream sometime" horse sh*t. That's asking them for a date right away, and it's obviously putting them on the defensive. It's also not very concrete. Either instant date, or just get their contact info. I used to ask girls if they wanted to go "salsa dancing", and it took me well over a year to learn what I was doing wrong.

Ok, I'll just go for the instadate and/or get their number. So if I stop hesitating before approaching, that will help my results out a lot?
Also, how can I get to the point where I get laid from cold approaches on a regular basis? It's just not happening for me. I'm tired of watching porn instead of having sex. I just can't get laid since I lost my virginity in August.

Today, a girl from high school didn't call me, so we didn't go out.
I asked her what she was doing tomorrow night, and I asked her to go to a cafe with me after she got done with work. She gave me her number. I texted her later that night with "Hey , I'll meet you at X 6:30 tomorrow night? I remember you had work until 6." She texted me back telling me that she'd call me on the way back from her job. She didn't. I can't believe I got flaked on by someone I'm in such consistent contact with.

I'll do my approach overview in the next post.
Today, I also realized I have a problem saying witty sexual things to women. Like in my mind it's "bad" to do such a thing. I was chatting up a waitress at a cafe tonight, and she spanked the other waitress's butt, and I thought of something witty to say, but my mind didn't want me to. Why does this happen? Like my mind blanks out me being sexual with women.

My winter fashion style has been hoodies(My Espanha one) and an American Eagle long sleeve.

Also, maybe the porn thing messes me up? I can't do one task for 10 minutes without daydreaming and losing interest. I'm always jumping from task to task in my life and mind.
Like when I was learning to cook eggs for breakfast this morning. My Dad was helping me and 5 minutes in I was losing interest and daydreaming. It also makes me feel too lazy to focus and concentrate on learning languages and guitar. It feels like I have some mild form of ADD(I doubt it, but the effects are there).
The only things that really hold my interest are: Sarging, playing Mario on the Wii, and Internet.

 

[Deicide]

Today felt like Groundhog Day in a weird way concerning my approaches.
I was in an aisle talking to a worker I've known for years. Then I see an attractive woman. HB 7 Brunette I don't hesitate much at all this time, and the reason I did was because the worker was around. I smiled and told her Hey, how're you doing. She didn't respond. I saw her do an action and told her "You played with your hair and it looked like you pointed at something you wanted". This didn't peak her interest and she ended up walking away. She was in her 30s by the looks of her.

HB 6 Blonde
She looked attractive but was sitting down looking at something. I always like to get eye contact before approaches. I went beside her and said Hey, how're you doing. I mentioned that she looked like she was having trouble finding something. She said ok, I found it. Then she walked off.

HB 7 Petite
Yes, this is in the make up aisle again. Except this time as soon as I see her, I say Hey. I ask how she is doing. I mention that I had ice cream earlier, the good Reeses kind you get from McDonald's. She doesn't respond. I ask about the make-up she's looking at and say that I don't know much about it. Though my sister might could help her. She laughs at these things but walks away. I think she had a wedding ring on.

It felt like Groundhog Day because ALL these women walked away from me. I'm tired of this happening. Now, I wasn't bothered at the time. I was cool and relaxed. But, I want results from this, I've been working hard for it with little to show. I really wish I had someone to guide me through approaching. Like a bootcamp of sorts.

Anyways, I'll be out tomorrow again. Whatever happens happens. The possibility of reward is worth all the pain and suffering.

And I'm seriously considering going a week without watching porn. Vice, I checked out your website and it's very interesting. This is going to be hard. I watch porn 5 nights a week usually. But, if going without it can possibly put my life back in order, it'll be worth it.

 

[Vice]

Ok, I'll just go for the instadate and/or get their number. So if I stop hesitating before approaching, that will help my results out a lot?
Also, how can I get to the point where I get laid from cold approaches on a regular basis? It's just not happening for me. I'm tired of watching porn instead of having sex. I just can't get laid since I lost my virginity in August.

Today, a girl from high school didn't call me, so we didn't go out.
I asked her what she was doing tomorrow night, and I asked her to go to a cafe with me after she got done with work. She gave me her number. I texted her later that night with "Hey , I'll meet you at X 6:30 tomorrow night? I remember you had work until 6." She texted me back telling me that she'd call me on the way back from her job. She didn't. I can't believe I got flaked on by someone I'm in such consistent contact with.

I'll do my approach overview in the next post.
Today, I also realized I have a problem saying witty sexual things to women. Like in my mind it's "bad" to do such a thing. I was chatting up a waitress at a cafe tonight, and she spanked the other waitress's butt, and I thought of something witty to say, but my mind didn't want me to. Why does this happen? Like my mind blanks out me being sexual with women.

My winter fashion style has been hoodies(My Espanha one) and an American Eagle long sleeve.

Also, maybe the porn thing messes me up? I can't do one task for 10 minutes without daydreaming and losing interest. I'm always jumping from task to task in my life and mind.
Like when I was learning to cook eggs for breakfast this morning. My Dad was helping me and 5 minutes in I was losing interest and daydreaming. It also makes me feel too lazy to focus and concentrate on learning languages and guitar. It feels like I have some mild form of ADD(I doubt it, but the effects are there).
The only things that really hold my interest are: Sarging, playing Mario on the Wii, and Internet.

Amp up your style; go to Kinowear.com and start with the basic pieces. The long sleeve is good, the hoodie is a little adolescent. My winter fashion is Allen Edmonds dress shoes, designer jeans (no tears/fake fading), white dress shirt with skinny tie, and a leather jacket. I get some pretty good stares from the ladies.

And yes, porn saps your energy levels and focus. It's a combination of low testosterone (which also can lead to weak interactions) and your body straining to restablish normal levels of sperm. Cut the porn, and start exercising. Start doing pushups every half hour as well as breathing exercises. Start taking supplements; I'm taking a bunch that help my testosterone levels (fish oil, vitamin D, NAC, Selenium, ZMA, etc.) and it's helped.

And I'm seriously considering going a week without watching porn. Vice, I checked out your website and it's very interesting. This is going to be hard. I watch porn 5 nights a week usually. But, if going without it can possibly put my life back in order, it'll be worth it.

I'm going to remove that seven day challenge thing; it's not helping sales of the book, guys are just like "awesome idea!" then never come back when they inevitably relapse. Need to focus on amping up my internet marketing game.

 

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i really dont like this thread. here's why. you keep messing up and we keep giving you advice and then you mess up again. then you try and come up with pointless reasons why you are getting rejected like you watch too much porn or have ADD. i think there is something fundamentally wrong with your conversations, and its impossible to correct this if we can't see or hear you. if i had to guess i would say its your voice since this is something i notice with a lot of guys. if you don't project what you are saying in a masculine and dominant way it doesn't matter what you say, you are going to sound less attractive. would it be possible in any way to film or record yourself??? worry about your clothes or what supplements you are taking after you get the fundamentals down. a nicer shirt isn't going to make or break you judging by the reactions you are getting.

 

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but again, i commend you for trying so hard. you got guts.

 

[Deicide]

but again, i commend you for trying so hard. you got guts.

I'll have to buy a voice recorder sometime soon. I'm saving up my money now, so I should be able to get one in no time. Yes, I know I've messed up a lot. I have trouble learning to do things without having people to show me first-hand. I'm willing to keep failing in order to someday become successful at this though. I don't know if it's my voice or not. It could be, though not to brag, but I have a pretty nice one since I do radio work. Then again, I understand it's about tonality.

 

[Deicide]

Last night, I decided I was going to get my life back in order. As a result of this, it will be more disciplined. I am not watching porn for a week.
After breakfast this morning, I studied Japanese for 30 minutes. Then, I went to a park and ran 6 laps, which is about the equivalent of 2 miles. I had lunch, then went to the store where I did a couple approaches.

Before I went to the store though, I had two topics of interest to discuss with the women that I had watched on TV that day, One was about the origins of heavy metal music and how it had evolved from jazz and classical music(Didn't get to use this one). The other was about a show on the Travel Channell called Barhoppers about various interesting yet unusual bars. So knowing to switch to a topic would help me keep a conversation going.

HB 6 Sleeve
I saw her in the jewelry section and said Hey, how're you doing? She mentioned that she was visiting family and was living far from here. I asked where she was from, and she didn't hear me the first time, and I laughed about it and told her I don't think you heard me. Then I mentioned the watches and the jewelry section in general and how i liked the Adidas watches at the mall. Not too long after that she dismissed me and said nice talkng to you.
I think her being from out of town affected my motivation for this one. Though I could've gone for an instadate with her.

HB 7 Mature
I saw her walking in an aisle and I was able to stop her by talking to her like I had already known her. I say Hi and ask how she is doing. Then we start talking about cellphones, and I pull mine out, get close to her, and compare ours. We discuss features and models of them briefly. I then tell her that she is wearing a short sleeve in cold weather and I tell her that I'll be getting cold soon with all this coming in. I also told her about how good it felt this morning when I went running. Topic shifted to Thanksgiving for a little bit. Then I brought out the TV topic about the show having martinis that were made of peanut butter and pizza. Her face showed an unusual look when I mentioned this, and I said it was a little strange, but interesting. I also threw in the fact that I went to Spain and there was a nightclub that was outdoors. Shortfly after this, she started to walk. I stopped her, asked for her name, and her number. She told me she doesn't give her number out to people, though I could tell by her body language that I could've changed her emotions somehow. I just said I think you're missing out and smiled and that was it.

I'm going to start carrying topics of conversation in my mind in case things get dull.

And when I came home, I played guitar in 2 30 minute sessions, studied Norwegian for 30 minutes, and jumped rope for aout 15 minutes.

 

[Jack Wealthy]

Throughout that interaction, I wasn't attempting to be try hard...

Lololol, who tries to be try hard? Tryhard squared!

i really dont like this thread. here's why. you keep messing up and we keep giving you advice and then you mess up again. then you try and come up with pointless reasons why you are getting rejected like you watch too much porn or have ADD. i think there is something fundamentally wrong with your conversations, and its impossible to correct this if we can't see or hear you. if i had to guess i would say its your voice since this is something i notice with a lot of guys. if you don't project what you are saying in a masculine and dominant way it doesn't matter what you say, you are going to sound less attractive. would it be possible in any way to film or record yourself??? worry about your clothes or what supplements you are taking after you get the fundamentals down. a nicer shirt isn't going to make or break you judging by the reactions you are getting.

I agree. Except I think it may just be your crazy irrritating topic and topic changes. They're all irrelevant crap that is obviously just brought up to keep a dying conversation alive, until the next irrelevant crap ad nauseum. Then finally the woman gets bored and annoyed at all your irrelevant crap, ponders that she's not really very attracted to you but it was a nice ego boost and then wanders off.

Stop trying to act like it's normal to go up to girls like this, it isn't. We know that, she knows that and now you do to. As such there is NO excuse to go up to a girl unless you legitimately want the time and she's the closest. Coming so indirect as a pickup strategy just shows you lack the balls. Going direct to that degree will mean you lack the impression. Moderation is key, go up to her very casually and say something normal, lacking ANY line. For example:
You: Hello.
Her: Hi..
...
You: So, how you feeling?

That conversation is light and fun but doesn't mask your intention at all. there is no false pretense, just getting to know her. For you, you seem very annoying and clingy so I think you should be a bit more standoffish. Legitimately I would very rarely prescribe that but your posts make me want to punch you in the face.