seanchai
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That's true, though most guys suck at anything sexual. Getting to the kiss is much harder than actually kissing, but I'm sure this episode is all about pleasing the TV bosses.Deus ex Pianoforte said:
Mystery's show on VH1 [Merged Threads]
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Pradeep would've been cut if Joe D or W whatever hadn't saved him. But Joe is smart for picking Pradeep because then you always have the chance of losing Brady, Kosmo or other Joe, your biggest competition.
diablo
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I just can't help but think that each person on here is going to find someone on the show to identify with, then be crushed when that person either gets eliminated or performs poorly. Honestly, I've only seen the pilot episode before giving up on the show - it's going to be about as honest a representation of the seduction community as the Jetsons cartoon was about life in the early 2000's... 
If you would've been a great lover you would have very little problems with picking up women.
You would've had no issues with going up to a woman and closing the deal, because you KNEW that you are the best thing that could happen to her.
Maybe your defination of a 'bad lover' differs from mine.
In that case, being mediocre seems to be a lot more dangerous than to be at rock bottom.
IamMyownMan
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I saw the episode where Fred got booted yesterday. I was at my friend's house; he is a natural PUA. He has no idea what the community is.
We both burst out laughing when Mystery said about Pradeep's cut -in, "I'd kick somebody's ass if they did that to me." I thought that was the funniest thing I've heard on T.V. Mystery's skinny, make-up wearing, metrosexual-self couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag. I can just see him windmill puching like a chick right now and it makes me laugh.
At the end of the show when they booted Fred, my friend commented that the situation was pretty ****ty. He summed it up as, Fred comes on the show with zero game, social skills, self confidence, etc. basically as a last resort and then gets kicked off. So he already is forty-five and doesn't have much hope and then some Chester the Cat looking dude tells you you got no hope? Come on. He did show some resiliency after the booting. If Mystery and crew just drop him it shows where their true intentions lie.
This show is slightly entertaining. However, it is just more media propaganda and I now remember why I stopped watching 'shows' on television.
We both burst out laughing when Mystery said about Pradeep's cut -in, "I'd kick somebody's ass if they did that to me." I thought that was the funniest thing I've heard on T.V. Mystery's skinny, make-up wearing, metrosexual-self couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag. I can just see him windmill puching like a chick right now and it makes me laugh.
At the end of the show when they booted Fred, my friend commented that the situation was pretty ****ty. He summed it up as, Fred comes on the show with zero game, social skills, self confidence, etc. basically as a last resort and then gets kicked off. So he already is forty-five and doesn't have much hope and then some Chester the Cat looking dude tells you you got no hope? Come on. He did show some resiliency after the booting. If Mystery and crew just drop him it shows where their true intentions lie.
This show is slightly entertaining. However, it is just more media propaganda and I now remember why I stopped watching 'shows' on television.
Ace of Flames
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Teaching seduction isn't something suited for a TV show. Every person has assets and hindrances of their own, and some have more assets and less hindrances than others. So, it'll take each guy a different amount of time to excel at this stuff. The kinds of people that actually fit for a show like this are those that would take the least amount of time.
Having said all that, I think Mystery realizes this, and then you add the fact that he has to ensure there will be good TV throughout the show. So, he'll naturally keep around the people that are doing the best, and that don't have a whole lot farther to go as well. He has to crown someone a "Master Pickup Artist" at the end, after all. Whoever this ends up being will have to be.... at least, like....... decently ok at pickup.
Anyway, about cutting Fred. I don't think he belonged on the show in the first place. Its not that older guys can't hack it, because they can. The show just seems to be intended for the 18-25 kind of audience. And no one over those ages watches the reality shows on VH1 anyway, lol. While I do believe he can improve himself a lot, and eventually get good at seduction, it'll take him much longer than the show allows. And he'll have less success as well, since he's a 45 year old going to bars 20-somethings frequent. The show just isn't right for him. He'd do much better on a personal journey, with advice like you can find here.
Having said all that, I think Mystery realizes this, and then you add the fact that he has to ensure there will be good TV throughout the show. So, he'll naturally keep around the people that are doing the best, and that don't have a whole lot farther to go as well. He has to crown someone a "Master Pickup Artist" at the end, after all. Whoever this ends up being will have to be.... at least, like....... decently ok at pickup.
Anyway, about cutting Fred. I don't think he belonged on the show in the first place. Its not that older guys can't hack it, because they can. The show just seems to be intended for the 18-25 kind of audience. And no one over those ages watches the reality shows on VH1 anyway, lol. While I do believe he can improve himself a lot, and eventually get good at seduction, it'll take him much longer than the show allows. And he'll have less success as well, since he's a 45 year old going to bars 20-somethings frequent. The show just isn't right for him. He'd do much better on a personal journey, with advice like you can find here.
How can you be an AFC if you're a great lover?
I do not see that, maybe you meant that just because you're an AFC it doesn't mean you suck hardcore. But that still means mediocrity.
I don't see what's wrong with giving average chumps some escalation skills.
They really do come in handy. I certainly know I used resources/material and they've benefitted me greatly.
Sexual confidence is one of your greatest assets when you want to attract a woman.
But if your proud ass likes to feel offended when help is provided to upgrade the escalation skills of those AFC's, be my guest.
I'm talking about Sexuality here, man. Not about the act of intercourse.
If you display very low Sexuality in the early interactions with a woman, you're not going to have a 'mating sequence' with that woman, unless the woman is desperate and needy.
Thanks for the compliment, by the way.
Haha, Kosmo got the kiss awesome! However, I sort of expected that, since he had Mystery whispering everything in his ear. All the other guys were sort of on their own. Joe W COULD OF gotten a kiss close, but he just didn't know when to kiss. Dude was like getting a bunch of IOI's and the girl was really into him, but he just didn't kiss close. Still waiting to see who gets eliminated.
What the hell!? Haha, I thought for sure Pradeep was going to get eliminated, but Scott got eliminated. Oh well, I guess that's how it is. I'm rooting for Pradeep and I know he has potential, but dude, I just don't see him improving. I can see him getting eliminated next week. Dude's got potential and he's wasting it.
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Pradeep got saved because he's not such a nice guy like Scott. Pradeep ****s up a lot but I must admit, I'm glad he's still around. He's such a trouble maker - keeps things interesting.
BTW,
DAMNNNNNNN THOSE GIRLS IN THE CLUB WERE HOT! I WANT CLUB GIRLS!
BTW,
DAMNNNNNNN THOSE GIRLS IN THE CLUB WERE HOT! I WANT CLUB GIRLS!
zerocelcius
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Got to go the show is on!
GQ_Confidence_1
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-Crazy ol' Pradeep. I think the only reason they kept him was because of his "x factor" appeal...you don't know what he's going to do, or how he'll spice things up.
You've got at least 3 guys who could win (cosmo, brady, joe d or joe w), so pradeep acts as a counter weight. The guy you love to hate.
-Scott made some solid improvements. He could have done something in that club. That's more than some guys could say.
And he wasn't anywhere close to optimal with his posture, movements, speaking abilities.
-Joe W maybe had the smoothest move of all of them! That slide into the barstool, and leaning back. Had that girl absolutely.
Brady and Joe D, they could give Cosmo a run for his money. Kosmo has this ****y, "I'm a latin lover competing with these nerdy white guys" vibe. Brady's got him on height and looks. Joe D has the most energy.
Maybe Kos has a reason to be ****y ("latin guys are born knowing how to make out"). But he did freeze the first time out. I could see him backpedaling a little and the other guys getting better.
You've got at least 3 guys who could win (cosmo, brady, joe d or joe w), so pradeep acts as a counter weight. The guy you love to hate.
-Scott made some solid improvements. He could have done something in that club. That's more than some guys could say.
And he wasn't anywhere close to optimal with his posture, movements, speaking abilities.
-Joe W maybe had the smoothest move of all of them! That slide into the barstool, and leaning back. Had that girl absolutely.
Brady and Joe D, they could give Cosmo a run for his money. Kosmo has this ****y, "I'm a latin lover competing with these nerdy white guys" vibe. Brady's got him on height and looks. Joe D has the most energy.
Maybe Kos has a reason to be ****y ("latin guys are born knowing how to make out"). But he did freeze the first time out. I could see him backpedaling a little and the other guys getting better.
im still mad about pradeep. he doesnt even TRY to listen to mystery and use his method. scott was actually trying, (mystery said he was the most earnest student he ever had.. then says GAME OVER to him). it makes no sense, im guessing that what you said is true (the x factor thing)GQ_Confidence_1 said:
Sure, my statement was a generalisation, there are a lot of other factors that come into play as well and can make a difference.
But I'm sure that masculinity is the most important variable of all. Get some good material on it, so you can develop it more.
Watch movies with Alpha males in it and check how they carry themselves/behave/etc. Get into their masculine mindset.
Good movies are:
-Almost any Tom Cruise movie
-Fight Club (Tyler Durden)
-Don Juan Demarco
And of course study how women get turned on and work sexually.
-Read David Shade
-Practice push-pull/two-steps-forward-one-step-back in escalation and sex
-Watch good lesbian porn
If you have an air of sexual confidence about you chicks will sense it the moment you check them out.
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Maybe Mystery is attracted to Pradeep. Check out the extra's from episode 3 on vspot. Mystery seemed pretty serieus about Pradeep, maybe he's allowing that to influence him and rather have him sticking around so he can change that indian bastard
