My self-improvement program

[Perfect]

yeah man cannibus fcks with me too, sometimes. I get real self concious and shyt. I got stories of times where it's really effed up my chances with a hot chick but this isn't the appropriate thread to post all that in lol.

But yeah, sometimes I'm pretty good when I'm high, sometimes I get this crazy anxiety. It sucks. But I'mma keep smokin me weeeeeed :rockon: shyt I need me a girl to roll my weed!


Being drunk on the other hand, I can deal with. I'm afraid to say anything, and at the same time, I'm not one of those careless drunks. I try not to get ****faced in public anymore anyways.


oh and by the way cool thread. Alot of your stuff lately seems a little over the top but I'm sure it's not as awkward as it sounds lol.. That chick you was callin a ***** wanted to fck you dude

 

[snowdog]

Just got back from Amsterdam. I drove there by car so this was going to be a sober night out. I went out with [Falsetto] and [SwissDude] who I met earlier.

We went out to a bar. Well, it was kinda a mix between a bar and a club. Music was really f*cking loud and the place was pretty small. Loads of hot girls there though. From the start I had a great vibe. I approached a big group of chicks, danced a little with them. I was really aggressive physically, I just grabbed them and pulled them against me. No half-assed sh*t. There was this guy with them, who was the cousin of one of the girls. He was ****blocking me the entire time. Half of the time I can deal with annoying guys, but this one was a raging homosexual who was acting all nasty towards me. That sh*t threw me off balance. *******s I can deal with, but guys like these not so much.

I messed around with the girls, having fun. Self amusing. There was this tall blonde with them, the hottest one. I chatted a bit, danced a bit, she seemed fun. At one point she said:

"You're kinda a weird guy"

-"Damn straight"

I dunno, I guess I did do something wrong because at one point they didn't have much interest anymore. [SwissDude] was doing pretty well. He's a smooth guy who had his sh*t under control. [Falsetto] had trouble getting into the vibe. At one point [SwissDude] pushed him into a group of girls and he was doing alright.

I approached and approached and approached. It went so so. After a while I just completely lost it. I felt like utter sh*t. Just completely out of it. I hated everything and everyone around me and I just wanted to go home. [SwissDude] cheers me up and tells me to just keep approaching. I do so and get blown out non-stop for thirty minutes. Every time I get blown out it sucks, but I keep on doing it anyway.

At one point we meet these chicks from Australia. One small blonde and an Indian chick. [SwissDude] is all over the Indian chick and at the end of the night makes out with her. I kinda like the blonde. She ain't exactly pretty, she ain't exactly small... hehe, a little reference there to a famous Australian band. I did find her hot in some way though, there was something about her. We chatted a bit, again aggressive physical contact. At one point she grinds on me and she doesn't f*ck around. She thrusts her ass into my crotch with force. It must had looked like we were banging doggy style there with clothes on. At one point the Indian chick pulls me aside and tells me she has a boyfriend. She also says something in the blonde's ear and then all of a sudden she's all distant and sh*t. Oh well, F*CK IT, NEXT.

I do a couple more approaches and it doesn't go that well. Then I see a blonde girl. She's beautiful and all alone. I see guys standing around her looking at her, but not doing anything. I go in and open her. She's actually very cool and friendly. I didn't expect her to be so open and nice. We talk a bit. I have my arms around her waist and pull her against me. We talk to each other faces real close, it's great.

In my mind: I can't believe I'm doing this with this amazingly hot, cute and cool girl that all these guys around me don't even dare to approach.

I tell her to give my number so we can find each other in case we lose each other. She gives it to me. I go to the loo and take a piss and walk up to my new pickup buddies. We talk a bit. [SwissDude] is constantly approaching girls, he's a f*ckin machine. Constantly high energy, having fun. [Falsetto] is approaching too, he's making a good effort. At one point he's talking with this smokin hot brunette, but he doesn't close. Ten minutes later, she's kissing with another guy. Sucks for him. Another hard lesson learned I guess.

I get back to the blonde and picked up where we left off. She's with her friend and she constantly c*ckblocks the sh*t out of me. I really have no chance of making her happy as well. She's a weird chick. [Falsetto] tries to wingman me and keep her occupied, but also without luck. What's wrong with this one? Is she on drugs? I get intimate again with the blonde and try to kiss close a bunch of times but I get the cheek every time. I try to pull the blonde away and isolate her but she doesn't want to. This sucks. When the bar closes we kiss goodbye and I say I'll text her (we texted a bit, I'll do a write up tomorrow or something).

The funny thing is, is that I usually would be thrilled to number close a smoking hot girl like this, but I wasn't happy. I wasn't playing the game to get a f*ckin number. I wanted to F*CK THE SH*T OUT OF THIS ONE, RIGHT THERE AND THEN!!!! I guess playing a different game leads to different results. I never number closed a chick this hot. Once again, it shows I'm heading into the right direction.

A night where I learned a lot for sure. I'd like to thank [Falsetto] and especially [SwissDude] for hanging out together on this great night out.

All in all, I'm very happy about last night.

Sum up

• Talking and interacting with chicks actually boosted my vibe. That's where I need to get my positive energy from. The chicks are the source of my "Woo" in the club. Every time I talked to one of em, I felt happier and enthousiastic.
• Just have fun.
• If you feel like sh*t, just keep on approaching anyway
• Don't take it seriously, cause it's all bullsh*t anyway
• Why would I care about these people or what they think?
• I'm doing awesome already sh*t by just walking up to them, most of the guys don't even do that
• You don't need to be perfect, game isn't perfect, it's ugly most of the time
• Getting rejected can be funny
• Just don't give a **** and move on to the next one
• Physical contact, eye contact!
• Going out sober is the sh*t, and it saves a ton of money
• Again, for the record, IF YOU FEEL LIKE SH*T, KEEP APPROACHING ANYWAY AND DON'T GIVE UP, YOU F*CKING P*SSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Aazman]

just finished reading your thread- took me a few days.

Boy- i've been reading this everytime i'm on the laptop, you've got me hooked.

I have to say you are a true inspiration and amazing. I kind of had bad **** that happened to me in school- just left school and I've sorted all the stuff out.

I have 3 issue that hits me quite often:

1. Being me, women and guys will say stuff like: your random. or your so bold. These kinds of statements- how do you respond to them? Ignore or take them on board? I think i take what they say alot. I guess I was busy treying to make the right image i wanted to make.

2. In a group with another one alpha male- ie i end up being beta. Avoiding the guy isnt an option because he's naturally confident all the time. Did you build it all up- by keeping at it till it becomes natural to act it?

I mean I'm confident, but it fluctuates. And someone once told me: your only so confident at your lowest point.

3. I'm at uni, and my course group is big- so word goes round. Is it advisable to try flirting with multiple girl in the same group? Otherwise the "player" term goes agaisnt me and women will deter.

Again man- your a credit to this site. keep it up and I'm going to keep following you! PEACE

AAZ

 

[snowdog]

just finished reading your thread- took me a few days.

Boy- i've been reading this everytime i'm on the laptop, you've got me hooked.

I have to say you are a true inspiration and amazing. I kind of had bad **** that happened to me in school- just left school and I've sorted all the stuff out.

Thanks, man. I appreciate that. I'm happy for you that you sorted the bad **** out, that's the first step.

I have 3 issue that hits me quite often:

1. Being me, women and guys will say stuff like: your random. or your so bold. These kinds of statements- how do you respond to them? Ignore or take them on board? I think i take what they say alot. I guess I was busy treying to make the right image i wanted to make.

well, if you're just being you and not putting up a show, be proud of it and embrace it.

Her: You're random

You: Yea, I know. Cool **** huh?

Or this happened to me last week when I was out in Amsterdam.

Girl: You're kinda a weird guy, aren't you?

Me: You bet your f*ckin ass

I'm not a firm believer of all these theories that everything is a test and sh*t like that. But when guys or girls say something that'll throw most guys (like you now) off balance and you DON'T react to it, that shows massive confidence and it shows that you're not relying on their opinion to make yourself feel good.

It comes all the way back to you not giving a sh*t about what they say. But a little more subtle this time. This is not important enough to let it influence you.

2. In a group with another one alpha male- ie i end up being beta. Avoiding the guy isnt an option because he's naturally confident all the time. Did you build it all up- by keeping at it till it becomes natural to act it?

I mean I'm confident, but it fluctuates. And someone once told me: your only so confident at your lowest point.

Is this in a social circle, or in random situations? What's the context?

My confidence has its ups and downs too, it's only natural I guess.

3. I'm at uni, and my course group is big- so word goes round. Is it advisable to try flirting with multiple girl in the same group? Otherwise the "player" term goes agaisnt me and women will deter.

Sure, flirting is always good. I flirt with all the girls I deal with. It's fun! Keep it light though. If your style is light and fun and not creepy, sure, I say go ahead.

My question is, though; are you the kind of guy who's over-obviously showing that he's a "player"? If you're just a normal guy, who naturally loves women, it's only a positive thing that you flirt with them.

Again man- your a credit to this site. keep it up and I'm going to keep following you! PEACE

AAZ

Thanks for the nice words, man. You should start a journal too, I'll follow you.

 

[snowdog]

So, I went on holiday for a week. I joined my parents and traveled with them. They have a nice sailboat (nothing huge though, it's not like they're super rich or something) that's been with us for fifteen years now. I spent pretty much every summer holiday on there since I was a little boy.

I kept a little journal of my dealings with the ladies. Don't expect too much spectacular stuff though. I spent most my time reading a book or listening to music in the sun, drinking a beer or a wine in the sun, and swimming in the sea.

Here goes:

[24-07-2010]
I texted a bit back and forth with the hot blonde I met at the bar last thursday. At one point I called her up, she was at work and I should call her later again. I did and we had a nice chat. This girl is weird and crazy. I love it. Really my style, I never thought there would be girls that are both hot and ****ing cool. Some of the things she said were downright ****ing NUTS. I loved it. The talk was light and fun, but I lead it. At one point:

Me: So, when I'll get back from vacation in two weeks, we should hang out.
Her: Really?
Me: Yea, Utrecht sounds good to me. That's like natural ground, so no gangsta's of your city and ninja's of my city can wait around the corner and cause trouble.
Her: Hahahha so, you're kinda a scared guy? You gotta face danger in the eyes. Face it head on.
Me: Why do you think I approached you? You looked ****in' dangerous.
Her: Hahahaa etc.

It was good and cool. I'll text her every now and then to keep this vibe alive. This girl is really cool.

I joined my parents on their boat today. They're on holiday. I had to take a two hour train ride to get there. At one point at the last fifteen minutes, when I was half asleep, these two hot chicks get on the train. I start to talk with them, it doesn't go really smooth, but alright. I was still tired from the party yesterday. They're sisters, the oldest one (23) is the one I'm interested in. She tells me she's studying to become a doctor. A study that'll take like 10 years. Hot AND brains. I tell her to give me her number and she does. I'll text her tomorrow.

This is awesome. It isn't that hard if you don't give a ****. I'm quite happy with myself right now.


[25-07-2010]
I texted both girls today. Didn't get a response so far. Hmm....

To the hot blonde:
”Hey blonde beautiful, did you have a spacey time yesterday? Haha x” (On our phone chat, she used that word and I made fun of her for using it)

To the chick I met in the train:
”Hey sexy Dr. [Danielle]. You enjoyed the nice weather today?”

F*ck, now I read this back, I realize that that sh*t was f*cking lame. Oh well. I won’t contact them tomorrow, or maybe even the day after that. I’ll give the blonde a call in a day or two, that was more fun anyway. The girl from the train I’ll text. When I do that, I’ll make sure it’s something at least a little crazy.


[26-07-2010]
Nothing happening on the girl front today. Like I said, I’m not texting or calling any of them. I don’t really know if it’s cool if I’m gonna call her tomorrow. It just feels too soon. Meh, I’ll do whatever feels right. The blonde girl is really cute and cool and I don’t wanna lose her, but I’m gonna make sure I don’t fall into the same trap I did many times before, e.g. texting/calling too much.
It’s not like there are a lot of targets in my daily area at the moment. Beautiful girls are everywhere… yea, I know it’s supposed to be true, but not really here.

Most of the people who have a boat are either in their fifties, like my parents; or they’re young parents. Not many youngsters around here. Plus, we’re out at sea, most young guys/girls don’t have the experience or guts to go there.

Anyway, I’m enjoying my vacation, getting some rest, letting it go. I gotta say though, there has definitely taken a transformation place the last few weeks. It really feels like I’m a different kind of guy. When I talk to girls and am smooth with them, it doesn’t feel like pretending anymore. It’s ME.

I’m going to try some cold approaching as well when I get the chance.

Things to focus on

• Statements not questions
• Offering value
• First set
• What you feel, she feels!
• THE CLAW
• Qualify
• Bust their balls

[27-07-2010]
I decided to text the girl I met on the train again. After all, my rule Is to text twice and if no reply, delete the number. So, I texted her once more:

Hey, [Danielle], I hope I wasn’t too direct for you there. I’ll ne honest with you. It doesn’t happen every day that I walk into a cute girl that also has brains. Give it a chance, Dani California. I’m pretty sure we could click. X Snowdog

I always get a reply when I play it like that, if she has given me a real number anyway. Within fifteen minutes I get:

Hey Snowdog. I’m sorry, but I think not. I have a very cute boyfriend. Have a nice holiday and have fun in the USA.

Alright, I can take my loss. I couldn’t resist sending a last little flirt her way though. Just for my own amusement.

The fact you got a boyfriend got nothing to do with that . Maybe we’ll walk into each other one day, who knows. X


Well that’s it for today, folks. Nothing much exciting going on. I did find it nice that she actually gave her real number to me. Like some guys suggested to me, I just put my phone in her hands and tell her to give it to me. It hasn’t failed once since I’ve used it. Number closing isn’t that hard actually. Making it work after that IS.

[28-07-2010]
We anchored out at sea today. Spent the day sitting in the sun, reading a book and listening to music while enjoying a nice drink. Haven’t seen a single human being for miles around me today. It really makes you feel like a rich person, having so much space around you. I finally get to chill a little bit. I was really stressed out from my school sh*t still. I’m sure that being more relaxed when I get home will surely help my game as well. Sh*t is still slowly sinking in.

I’m capable of doing awesome things.

[29-07-2010]
Went shopping for some clothes today. The girl that helped me out was pretty cute. There was a nice flirty vibe going on the entire time. I enjoy flirting with cuties and it’s like an automatic thing that happens. I don’t have to force it anymore. She liked it also, it was nice.

Still chillin’. It’s hard to do this when you’re at places where there are hardly girls and when you’re around your folks all the time. Then again, maybe a hiatus isn’t so bad every now and then. I’m chillin’ out, yo.


[31-07-2010]
Just got back home. Saturday night. Probably goin' out!


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[Aazman]

I don't know how to quote so here I go:

In reference to the Alpha Male q- it's normally in a social circle. i'm normally confident out of this circle. I have potential to advance just that he kind of negs me to become quite. And his lapdog joins in too.(also in our social circle)

Next q: yeah, i think the flirting was wayy too obvious. think this is why. However then again, flirting is always something that they can understand. else it wouldn't be flirting. But i did things like touching their hair. Nothing much. Never held them round the waist etc. i think it depends on how confident you are. IF you are very confident, then it is accepted. If its not confident- comes across as weird.

but my issue is: i don't really know what flirting/ kino is. I kind of do. But i have no clue how to. Any clue how i can sort this out? all the chicks i have picked up are with confidence and looks.

I think my hardest things is flirting, but doing it without thinking. If i think, then it makes me feel awkward. Trying to get that social conditioning out of me. But i think that takes practice. And i think confidence too- you can't do it on small occasions.

been a bit peeved with myself and am gearing up for a major change in my life. I've going to do a journal too, so I def will keep you posted on it. It's time for change.

Peace

Aaz

 

[snowdog]

Aazman, I'll get back to you through P.M.

[22.18]
So, I just got out of the shower and I'm goin out tonight! Solo! This night it'll be Utrecht. It's a 45-minute drive by car. This forces me to not drink. I'll keep my browser window open and update when I'll get back.

Yea, I'm excited. I put on an old CD I bought ages ago of L.A. Guns, an Eighties cheesy hairband, haha.

AN I'M OVER, OVER, OVERRR TEH EDGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

If you see some guy in a blue little Fiat singing like a ****ing retard, that's me.

 

[snowdog]

Well, I just got back. Didn't go that well.

On the drive to my destination at one point I was in doubt to turn around and go back because I was so tired all of a sudden. It wasn't that weird now I think back of it. I got up really early, spent three hours in the train and then drove a really ****ty piece of road that was full with roadworks. I also heard a pretty close friend of my parents, whom I also knew all my life, died of cancer. That kinda was also in the back of my head, sorta. It brought back a lot of urgly memories of a relative I lost a few years ago, also cancer.

But, I said to myself "No excuses, you will go out", so I did. And now I think back of that and that it all into account, I could had known that this night wouldn't turn out a glorious one.

Anyway, I went to this bar with a dance floor. Cool place, I visited it once before. Hung out for a while with a blonde chick. I approached her, she bought me a few drinks, I bought her one back. I couldn't really build the tension because the sexual vibe it wasn't really present in me. I just felt really tired. The funny thing is that I noticed that she was feeling attraction for me after a while. I followed the rules. I made sure I actively paid attention to my tonality, voice and 'statements instead of questions'. I built up physical contact and got more and more aggressive this time. I did all these things right, but with nothing to back it up. It felt like I was faking it. I didn't really feel like having a good time tonight.

I'm not saying this is a bad night (in terms of pickup). I believe you always learn something, even if it's not a lot. Oh well. Tomorrow will be another day. They can't all be winners.


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[Aazman]

what do you mean, you had nothing to back it up?

 

[Tesl]

I'm making this sh*t happen!

Although I will acknowledge you have made progress, you *arent* making it happen yet. You still haven't got laid right? After a good few years of writing this journal?

I don't know what it is, but there clearly is still something you are doing wrong. Spend more time evaluating the mistakes you are making and look at solving them, rather than just bragging on here about your excellent progress.

Keep up the good work all the same snowdog.

 

[snowdog]

what do you mean, you had nothing to back it up?

I didn´t feel like going out and pick up chicks at all. My mood wasn´t into it.

Although I will acknowledge you have made progress, you *arent* making it happen yet. You still haven't got laid right? After a good few years of writing this journal?

I don't know what it is, but there clearly is still something you are doing wrong. Spend more time evaluating the mistakes you are making and look at solving them, rather than just bragging on here about your excellent progress.

Keep up the good work all the same snowdog.

Alright, man. I think you´re missing the point here.

First of all, if there´s one person in the world who is NOT bragging, it´s me. Just read through this thread. I write everything down. Including and especially all my failures, embarrassments and stuff that most people would be ashamed about to even write down on an anonymous forum. There isn't a single example to find here that´s even a little bit exaggerated. If you can truly find a part where you think I'm bragging, please quote it so I can see what you mean. I'm not trying to be a cool guy here, I really don't care about my reputation on a forum. I just write down everything that I go through and people can interpret it in their own way.

The thing is, I just have a positive outlook on things. It is what keeps me going. If I wouldn't have this mentality, I wouldn't had made it this far and I had quit a long time ago. So yes, even when I haven´t gotten a number, or kissed a girl when I went out, I still see the positive things. I went out there, walked up to hot girls I didn´t even knew and I gave it a shot. I don't see failures, I see learning moments. If I go cry like a b*tch and be negative about that sh*t, I'll wind up right where I started. Sure, I feel like sh*t a lot of the time, but I try to turn it around into something positive. Every, single, f*cking, time I went down in life I told myself to man up, cause the best things don't come easy. Believe me, I went down face in the mud about a million times by now in every aspect of my life. But I got up every time I did and I worked at it till I got it. I'm approaching this whole pickup thing with the same attitude. I will keep working at this till I get good at this, you can mark my words. The progress is slow but steady. I won't bore you with my school/work history but that's the story of my life. Nothing ever came easy for me. I struggled and worked my ass off for everything I got and I'm proud of that sh*t. It made me into what I am.

You on the other hand, and I don't mean this to offend or attack you, seem to focus on the negative things. I'm well aware that I haven't got laid yet. I well aware that I'm working on this thread for a couple of years. Please don't think I'm naive or stupid. I know as no other that I still have a long way to go.

But listen here; you can't possibly comprehend the place I was in when I started this. I was seriously depressed, I was socially awkward even around my family and my best friends and I couldn't even look at girls. Seriously. I couldn't f*cking LOOK AT THEM. Now I'm full-on flirting with them and getting numbers and even kissing them every now and then. The next step is only a logical and an obvious one.

The girl I met a week ago in Amsterdam, I just found out she's a professional model. And I'm constantly texting and calling with her and it currently looks like we'll probably go on a date, that is, if I can make it work. I might go down in flames in the process, but hey, I'm willing to accept that just the same. I just don't care anymore. I'll see it as just another inch closer to the finish line.

Part of the reason I don't have much success YET is probably because I only go for the super hotties. I don't care about the 7's or the fatties. I'm going for the 8's and if I see a 9, I'll go for her first. I wanna play ball in the champion's league. It's a tough game, and I'm willing (and am) paying my dues for it. I never took a shot at a girl I didn't even remotely found super hot. I didn't make out with a lot of girls, but the ones I did were all pretty hot.

Do you really think it is that weird I'm quite happy with myself right now when I'm doing these sort of things, looking at the place that I started from?

Again, you have possibly no idea how f*cking awkward and messed up I was when I started out. Take the worst social retard you know. Like the kid McLovin' from that awesome movie Superbad. Multiply that by ten. That was me. And now, 3 years later, I'm about to date a professional model.

F*ck yea, I'm happy and feelin' groovy, my friend.

 

[snowdog]

So, I had the girls' number from Amsterdam. Here's how it went.

That same night I texted while I was driving home:

Snowdog
[Joanna]!!!

(the next day at noon)[Joanna]
That's the name! x

Snowdog
You just got out of bed? My oh my

[Joanna]
I wish, I just got home.

Snowdog
Huh? You weren't arrested by the cops or something? Haha x

[Joanna]
You draw weird conclusions right away, haha. I was just chilling with some friends and stuff. x

Snowdog
I can see it happening right now right before my eyes. You wrecking some bus stop. Especially in Amsterdam

Didn't get anything back. Gave her a call the next day. It went alright. She seemed open to a date. She was at work so we had to keep it short. I was on holiday during this time. There was a bit of a radio silence for a while. I called her up a couple days later but she didn't reply. I use the rule that I send out one more message after a silence, and if that's answered again with a silence, she's out of my phone book. So, I texted:

Snowdog
Yo [Joanna], space chick. Are you ignoring me now? You're truly spacy indeed. How can anyone ever deny my offer of free guitar lessons [we talked about that stuff over the phone]? Stop being a weirdo and respond. x

[Joanna]
Haha what on earth are you talking about?

(Time to amp this sh*t up a bit)

Snowdog
What, what I'm talking about? Maybe I'm spacing too. Maybe not :O

[Joanna]
I think you're crazy. X

Snowdog
Well there's another thing we have in common, haha x

No reply. I call her the next evening. F*ck this. I'm relentless and I won't stop until she tells me to go f*ck myself.

Phone call goes well. She's at the movies and the film's about to start. She says she's up for it if we go out. Short conversation, but good again. This girl makes it hard for me, constantly testing me, but I bust her balls as well. She tells me to call tomorrow to set up a date. A couple minutes later she texts me:

[Joanna]
You got something like facebook or myspace?

Snowdog
Hells yea. Both even

[Joanna]
Haha alright. You can find me as [Joanna Miller] from Amsterdam. Seeing you got nothing else to do (I told her on the phone I had vacation).

Snowdog
Hehe, alright. Enjoy the flick x


I look her up on Facebook and my oh my. A bunch of professional shot photos turn up. This girl is HOT. Just look at those legs, and that figure, and the long blonde hair and the blue eyes. A stunner. She didn't just look hot in the bar with the loud music and lights.

I call her the next day as arranged and she says she calls me back tomorrow to tell me when she's available. She doesn't. The day after that I text:

Snowdog
Well what about your availability, you unreliable piece of work

[Joanna] (right away)
Unreliable piece of work? You don't beat around the bush do you? I had expected a Facebook invite by now. I think I'm available for monday x

Snowdog
Of course I don't. Otherwise it'll get boring too fast Monday is alright for me, I have time in the evening. I'll give you a call later this week while you're at work or at the movies. x

[Joanna]
You keep being so critical? x

Snowdog
Only when necessary x

And that wraps it up for today. I got a good feeling about this.

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[cool dude]

Ya know bro I have a journal of my own. I started to get bummed because of my lack of progress , and my steps backwards in my game, but just reading one post of your got me feeling like its all gonna be cool. Ima start keeping an eye oout for you bro.

Congrats at coming this far on your own.

 

[snowdog]

That's great to hear, man. And thanks for the nice words. Of course it's all gonna be cool. After all, you're the cool dude , always remember that. And I'm the snowdog. It's gonna get freezing in here.


I called her today and set up the date for next Monday by the way. Hells yea

 

[Ease]

Snowdog
Yo [Joanna], space chick. Are you ignoring me now? You're truly spacy indeed. How can anyone ever deny my offer of free guitar lessons [we talked about that stuff over the phone]? Stop being a weirdo and respond. x

[Joanna]
Haha what on earth are you talking about?

(Time to amp this sh*t up a bit)

Snowdog
What, what I'm talking about? Maybe I'm spacing too. Maybe not :O

[Joanna]
I think you're crazy. X

Snowdog
Well there's another thing we have in common, haha x

No reply. I call her the next evening. F*ck this. I'm relentless and I won't stop until she tells me to go f*ck myself.

Phone call goes well. She's at the movies and the film's about to start. She says she's up for it if we go out. Short conversation, but good again. This girl makes it hard for me, constantly testing me, but I bust her balls as well. She tells me to call tomorrow to set up a date. A couple minutes later she texts me:

[Joanna]
You got something like facebook or myspace?

Snowdog
Hells yea. Both even

[Joanna]
Haha alright. You can find me as [Joanna Miller] from Amsterdam. Seeing you got nothing else to do (I told her on the phone I had vacation).

Snowdog
Hehe, alright. Enjoy the flick x


I look her up on Facebook and my oh my. A bunch of professional shot photos turn up. This girl is HOT. Just look at those legs, and that figure, and the long blonde hair and the blue eyes. A stunner. She didn't just look hot in the bar with the loud music and lights.

I call her the next day as arranged and she says she calls me back tomorrow to tell me when she's available. She doesn't. The day after that I text:

Snowdog
Well what about your availability, you unreliable piece of work

[Joanna] (right away)
Unreliable piece of work? You don't beat around the bush do you? I had expected a Facebook invite by now. I think I'm available for monday x

Snowdog
Of course I don't. Otherwise it'll get boring too fast Monday is alright for me, I have time in the evening. I'll give you a call later this week while you're at work or at the movies. x

[Joanna]
You keep being so critical? x

Snowdog
Only when necessary x

And that wraps it up for today. I got a good feeling about this.

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You need to improve your game. You're making blatantly obvious mistakes.

When she doesnt get back to you, and you try a last attempt, dont acknowledge that she didnt get back to you. Act like it never happened and start over. Saying 'are you ignoring me' puts you in a terrible spot.

When she tells you to add her on facebook/myspace, tell her to add you, not other way around. Don't agree to her requests like that, flip them on her, infact make requests of your own.

Stop replying to every text, you didn't need to send half of those texts to her. It would improve your situation to actually stop texting rather than try to think of comebacks to everything. Making her wonder why you aren't replying creates as much attraction as having a big ****.

Haha what on earth are you talking about?

(Time to amp this sh*t up a bit)

Snowdog
What, what I'm talking about? Maybe I'm spacing too. Maybe not :O

When she puts you on the spot like this, don't get nervous. Your reply was nervous and defensive, you should have replied with somethig more agressive. 'What are YOU talking about?' is better than 'uhh ahh i dont know sorry'. You need to be the man and she needs to be your *****, put her in her place if she tries to put you on the spot like that, dont get defensive.


You need to be more real with yourself.

 

[snowdog]

You need to improve your game. You're making blatantly obvious mistakes.

When she doesnt get back to you, and you try a last attempt, dont acknowledge that she didnt get back to you. Act like it never happened and start over. Saying 'are you ignoring me' puts you in a terrible spot.

When she tells you to add her on facebook/myspace, tell her to add you, not other way around. Don't agree to her requests like that, flip them on her, infact make requests of your own.

Stop replying to every text, you didn't need to send half of those texts to her. It would improve your situation to actually stop texting rather than try to think of comebacks to everything. Making her wonder why you aren't replying creates as much attraction as having a big ****.

Thanks for the advice. I did not add her on facebook, by the way. Plus, I really have to put in a lot of work to make her react to me. If I wasn't so relentless with my calling and sh*t, I wouldn't had gotten anything out of this. I got no pride, I'm going after this one. Considering I set up a date, I'm not doing that bad (I ain't celebrating till it actually happened, though).

Plus, and I'll be honest with you, I hate texting. I'm not very good at it. I'm way better face-to-face where I can look her in the eyes and touch her.

When she puts you on the spot like this, don't get nervous. Your reply was nervous and defensive, you should have replied with somethig more agressive. 'What are YOU talking about?' is better than 'uhh ahh i dont know sorry'. You need to be the man and she needs to be your *****, put her in her place if she tries to put you on the spot like that, dont get defensive.

Does that really come across as defensive to you? I was laughing to myself while I wrote that. I just thought I'd send back a text message as vague, weird and random as possible and it seemed to work cause I got a reply immediately. "uhh ahh i dont know sorry" is really different from what I sent if you ask me.

You need to be more real with yourself.

I don't think that's possible. When I look around me, I'm more "real" with myself (whatever the f*ck that means) than 99% of the people I see. That includes guys that are getting laid or having successful jobs. I'm talking about the entire personality. I'd like to think that I've been through enough good and bad sh*t to have gotten to know myself. Hell, I almost died 4 times in my life and one time I even tried to kill myself and I got lucky it didn't work. I've hit rock bottom, dragged myself face-first through the huge pile of sh*t that was lying there, and got out of it. You get to know yourself when you go through rough patches like that.


I have a nice quote for you, cause I like philosophical sh*t:

"Circumstances do not make the man, they reveal him."
(James Allen)​

You don't know me at all, so you don't even know what the f*ck you're talking about, but you bet your f*ckin ass I've been through a lot of "circumstances".

 

[Ease]

Does that really come across as defensive to you? I was laughing to myself while I wrote that. I just thought I'd send back a text message as vague, weird and random as possible and it seemed to work cause I got a reply immediately. "uhh ahh i dont know sorry" is really different from what I sent if you ask me.

Uhh ahh i dont know sorry is exactly what you sent her.

Your game is weak because you used that tone with her during the entire time. It's no surprise that she was giving you such *****y, short replies.

The idea of being 'vague, weird and random' is not good. Act like you are a cool guy. Your text and conversation should be smooth, cool and aloof. Trying too hard is the killer of text and phone game.

Who ever said being relentless with chasing a girl was a good thing? The oldschool move is to wait 3 days before calling. Playing hard to get is the real way to get girls. Dont show so much interest.

This is also what i meant about being real with yourself. Who gives a **** if you were laughing when you wrote that, it doesn't matter what you write in your journal, its the outcome for you thats important. You are more talk than action, talk less.

 

[snowdog]

Alright alright, just take it easy and watch your blood pressure bro.

 

[snowdog]

She sent me a text message today saying she met some other guy and she doesn't date two guys at once cause it's against her principles.

Oh well... I did come pretty close this time. Another number deleted from the phone.


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[yuppaz]

Yo Snowdog, read a little of your journal. Good job getting this success with women thing handled in your life. One thing that has been helping me lately is to have a plan for the week all set ahead of time and when you approach, do the invite right then and there, strike while the iron is hot. Last few sets for me were like this and they went much better then in the past where I would collect the number and then try to make plans. I'm horrible horrible with text, but great in person so I'm learning to use that to my advantage. A number for the sake of a number really has no value, set the 'meet up', then get the number. Cheers brother