My self-improvement program

[snowdog]

buzzit, that's awesome to hear, man! I'm really glad this thread helped you. One of the main reasons I write my stuff on here is to motivate and help others and it's great to read that I have helped you out! Keep at it buddy! Our day will come for sure.


Little update, not much of substance, but I'll write it down anyway to give you guys an idea of how I'm doing these days. My approach anxiety is pretty much gone. Granted, in the morning when I'm still half asleep, I'm not as active as I am during the day. But still, once I have the idea in my head to walk up to a girl and talk to her, I just do it. I don't keep *****ing around anymore. I just go for it.

This morning I had to go to the dentist. I asked the hot assistant out. She wasn't interested, and I kinda could had known beforehand. Why? It was 8 AM, I was half asleep and looked like ****, and I just had 3 holes drilled in my tooth. If you ever went through that, you know the excruciating pain that gives you. I completely lacked the energy and motivation really, but I did ask her. F*ck it, I don't care. At least I took a shot.

Later today a bit more successful one. I was pretty happy with myself after this. I sat down in the bus next to this blonde hottie. The train at that bus stop stops next to the bus. A lot of the time, just as the train pulls in, the bus drives away. It's really really annoying when you're in the train.

This happened while I sat next to her and I just started laughing a little.

[laughing]That is so annoying when that happens

Not much of a reaction

...but it's pretty funny when you're in the bus, don't you agree?

-Yea, hehe

Little hesistant, still not much of a reaction. This is a part of my new philosophy. Just keep talking till the conversation "hooks". Persistence, persistence, persistence.

So..., you're going home from college as well?

-Yea, I do [don't know how to translate that]

Really? What does that really mean?

-I work with retarted kids, homeless people, old demented people

Sh*t...

She laughed a little

Oh, hey, that's something you definitely CAN'T do. You can't laugh at them when you're actually having that job!

I kinda grabbed her a little and she laughed loud now

We talked a bit about how you need a thick skin for that kind of job, but I really jumped fast from this because the interview-style chat is a bad thing. Keep it light, fun and make her laugh is the key. I told her I studied psychology for a year or so (see start of this thread, by the way) but I quit because I couldn't stand the illnesses stuff, too depressing.

She asked me if you learn about yourself studying that (she seemed really intrigued). I told her yea and I asked her if it also was the case with her study. She said it did. So I replied with: So, you might end up like a bum as well. This really made her laugh. We were in a nice two-way conversation now. Things were heating up as well. Great eye contact, talking with faces pretty close to each other, I noticed her pupils dillating, I sat there with a half boner. It was good. The conversation continues. She asks

So, what do you wanna be?

-I wanna be a rockstar

She laughs

No seriously. I'm doing this education thing and it's fine you know... but I haven't let go of my dreams.

-Huh, that's cool

Hey, if I at least take a shot, I know I have done more about it than 98% of the other people out there. Life's too boring and short not to try.

-Alright...

She was kinda puzzled by this, but I could tell she liked it. I just put it out there, didn't care and wasn't ashamed about anything. This was in a full bus. People around us were listening to our chat. I didn't gave a f*ck, it was like they weren't even there. I went in for the close.

What's your name by the way?

-I'm [jamie]

I'm snowdog

We shook hands

[girl]Oh, I'm sorry, my hands are a little clammy

-It's not because of me, isn't it? (eye contact, smile)

Nooo, it's not haha

-Hey, how would you like to continue this conversation another time?

You need to get off the next stop?

-Yea, that's why I didn't ask you sooner (eye contact, smile)

Well, unfortunately I have a boyfriend

She showed me a ring, with diamonds in it.

-Oh well, you can't blame a guy for trying

She smiled and we said goodbye.



Conclusion: this is the sh*t. I felt great after this. It felt so easy and natural and I couldn't believe I had a hard time with this. I'm definitely heading where I wanna go. This is becoming a part of my lifestyle. It'll be just a matter of time. I'm planning on going out a bit more, but school's getting crazy again.

Oh well. I'll keep this thread updated. Thanks for reading.




*Good news on a sad day, though. We lost another hero today. Keep it rockin' up there, Dio.

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[GreatHornedOwl]

"how would you like to continue this conversation another time?"

Yikes. That's extremely cheesy.

"No seriously. I'm doing this education thing and it's fine you know... but I haven't let go of my dreams".

:facepalm:

"-Oh well, you can't blame a guy for trying"

You're basically telling the girl you didn't think you had a shot to begin with.

"Hey, if I at least take a shot, I know I have done more about it than 98% of the other people out there. Life's too boring and short not to try."

Awkward.

Snow, this self-improvement journal is 3 years-old and you don't seem to be making much progress.

It's great that you don't feel anxious after an approach, but you should have been past that a long time ago.

I'm not saying this to be mean, but you're not going to get any girls like this. You're sending off the creeper vibe.

 

[kingsam]

This morning I had to go to the dentist. I asked the hot assistant out. She wasn't interested, and I kinda could had known beforehand. Why? It was 8 AM, I was half asleep and looked like ****, and I just had 3 holes drilled in my tooth. If you ever went through that, you know the excruciating pain that gives you. I completely lacked the energy and motivation really, but I did ask her. F*ck it, I don't care. At least I took a shot.

but you had no rapport or IOI's from her...
and as you said you looked like ****

We were in a nice two-way conversation now. Things were heating up as well. Great eye contact, talking with faces pretty close to each other, I noticed her pupils dillating, I sat there with a half boner.

WTF?

 

[snowdog]

"how would you like to continue this conversation another time?"

Yikes. That's extremely cheesy.

"No seriously. I'm doing this education thing and it's fine you know... but I haven't let go of my dreams".

:facepalm:

"-Oh well, you can't blame a guy for trying"

You're basically telling the girl you didn't think you had a shot to begin with.

"Hey, if I at least take a shot, I know I have done more about it than 98% of the other people out there. Life's too boring and short not to try."

Awkward.

Snow, this self-improvement journal is 3 years-old and you don't seem to be making much progress.

It's great that you don't feel anxious after an approach, but you should have been past that a long time ago.

I'm not saying this to be mean, but you're not going to get any girls like this. You're sending off the creeper vibe.

I can understand that this can sound weird and creepy to you if you read it here like this. These are just words you're reading here, a rough translation of how it went down.

This conversation wasn't awkward or weird at all. She was laughing most of the time and she showed lots of IOI's (god, I hate overanalyzing, nerdy terms like that). The whole interaction went down as if we had known each other for a long time. It's was natural and good. The was touching going on and it was just spontaneous fun. Did you know that 80% of all communication is non-verbal? In the end, it doesn't really matter that much what you say.

Oh, and don't worry about my progress, buddy. I'm a completely different person than I was before. I transformed into someone else over the last few years. If you can't tell that from the tone of voice in my writing alone... well, I guess you just don't see it.

I'm not saying this to be mean either (I mean that), but I think you're the one missing the point here.

Stop overanalyzing and just look at the facts. I opened a complete stranger in a crowded space. I ignored all social pressure and distraction around me. We had a fun chat that had equal input from both sides that lasted for over twenty minutes. It was a light, fun chat and there was this really flirty vibe going on. There was no weirdness or awkwardness and in the end I went for the close. I didn't get the number, but hey, at least I gave it a shot. At least I wasn't one of those f*cking chodes that occupied the rest of the seats. Really, if I was creeping her out, she would had let me know. If I would get a buck for every time a girl freezes me out or flat out tells me to f*ck off, I would have a big screen TV in my room by now.

but you had no rapport or IOI's from her...
and as you said you looked like ****

I don't give a f*** about how I look, because looks don't matter at all anyway. I take my chances. When I want to close, I try to close. It's that simple. I wasn't going to see her for another six months anyway, so why not. I got no result, and I don't care. Enough fish in the sea. If I hadn't even tried it, I would had been 100% sure of a 'no'.

The more I pay attention to IOI's and rapport and sh*t like that, the more I get into my head. It works against me. Sure I notice things like her leaning over, pupils dilating, licking her lips, the way she holds eye contact etc... But I try to shut off my thinking as much as possible and just act, act, act. If you actively pay attention to those things and try to ajust yourself to that, you only get int your own way.

WTF?

Whatever you feel, she feels. It was in the air, man. I created a little spark in her as well. I'm not denying nor apologizing being a man. Give it a try, accepting yourself for what you are. It'll do wonders I promise.

 

[snowdog]

Yesterday I picked up my official diploma of the first year I wrote about here earlier. The moment I got it into my hands, it suddenly was something real. Still slowly sinking in. Good, good stuff. Letting go of the old negativity more and more.

The day after that, today, I quit my job. I had worked there for over two and a half years with a lot of fun, but I was just having enough of it. It was a pretty big step as well because I made a lot of friends there and I had fun in my work. Another chapter closes. Quite the coincidence, these two big things so close to each other.

I'm feeling more and more liberated, more and more calibrated, more and more happy. I slowly start to turn into myself. A year ago or so, I found out who I am. Now I am becomin who I am. I feel it in every fiber of my body. I'm starting to live through my core. The armor is gone, this is me.

I notice I'm developing a very natural and cool charm about myself. I have a quick response on pretty much everything and I notice that girls pay attention to me without me having to do anything.

I went to this bar with a couple of friends. Just to chill out and sort of celebrate my retirement from the job. I had a nice flirty conversation with the girl (she was really hot and cute) who took my jacket at the entrance. When we were leaving I chatted her up again. Great eye contact, great vibe, it was just perfect. High point in the conversation:

Me: "I'm probably the tenth guy telling you this, but you're really the cutest one here"
Her (blush, smile): "You're actually the first"
Me: "Look, I barely know you but I know I wanna hang out with you"
Her: "My boyfriend wouldn't like that"
Me: "You have a boyfriend?"
Her: "Yea"
Me: "That's such a shame really" (laser eyes)
Her: "Yea, it really is"
Me: "...cos I'm sure we'd make a great team"
Her (f*cking porno eyes): "Yea, I think so too"

Sure, no close at all, but that proved to me that I'm definitely going in the right direction.

My progress is slow, but it's solid as a rock. I haven't got a worse night than the last one since forever. When I compare my nights, it really shows that I'm moving forward and it's great. I have never used canned openers; I'm doing everything myself, making stuff up on the spot. I'm working on becoming a natural, not some dumbass who can throw some random lines in the air and use it as a tool.

I'm only cool when I'M really cool. I'm only smoth when I'M really smooth... nothing is fake. I can't do it anymore. It's just out of my system. When I try, it just feels wrong and it'll never work.

I really don't care about what others think of me and I'm comfortable in my own skin.

I just know that I'm going to be awesome at this eventually. Mark my words, guys. Mark my words.







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[Julius_Seizeher]

"If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain: Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you."

 

[snowdog]

Went to a rock concert yesterday, Aerosmith, baby!

Mostly guys there, old women, not much hotties. There were a few and I opened every one of them. I went in showing my intent from the start. This was my opener:

”You’re a rare case, you know that?”

-“Why?”

“Well you have a good taste in music, and you’re pretty hot. That’s rare”

They started blushing and laughing right away. It was great. It didn’t help me get some numbers though, but it was all fun and good. I didn’t get shot down hard.

At one point there was this blonde cutie with this mini skirt standing around. I opened her and chatted a bit. Giving compliments seems to help.

”Where you’re from?”

-“Groningen” (this is where the distinctive Dutch beauties come from, including Doutzen Kroes)

“Ah that doesn’t surprise me at all actually”

-“Why?“

“You got that real nice natural beauty about you. Blue eyes, blonde hair” (running my hand through her hair)

-“Well, I just moved there a couple of weeks ago actually” (blushing, laughing)

“Well, I’m still right. It just took you a while to find your natural habitat that’s all”

First time I did it like this, showing clear intentions from the start. It seems to work, I just have to calibrate it a little more. I got her number within 3 minutes.

She had an ugly/fat friend that kinda bothered me but I disarmed her pretty good and she left us alone. The show started and during the songs we sang together every now and then. I left her alone a couple of times to be crazy with my buddies. During ”I don’t wanna miss a thing (Power ballads for the mother ****ing WIN) I put my arm around her and we both sang along. I grabbed her hips and we grinded a little, I grabbed her ass and she was cool with it, she went with it. Every time I wanted to create a little opening for kissing her I felt a little resistance. The rest of the show kinda continued like this. I told her to come sit on my neck to get a good view but she didn’t want to because her skirt was really short. “It don’t matter, you’ll make the guys behind us happy”. I didn’t gave a **** and she liked my bull****.

But still, no close. She just kept resisting somehow every time I went for it, I couldn’t pinpoint it really. I was all over her and she stuck around all the time. I was in the moment, I was handling **** from my core, but still, she didn’t want the tongue. Now I think about it, I went in for the kiss 3 times and at one point I sorta gave up. I realize this JUST NOW as I’m typing this. Heh, at least I know what to work on. Keep plowing.

Still, great stuff for me though. I couldn’t dream of being as smooth as I am now. Still work to do though.

Read on in the next post because I still had her number. Text message exchange time.



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[snowdog]

ROUGH TRANSLATION OF TEXT MESSAGE EXCHANGE:

Snowdog
Hey beautiful, still alive?

AerosmithChick
Huh, yea of course. Weed stays alive for a long time (expression, like ‘bad people always feel good’, or something)

AerosmithChick
Who is this, by the way? Hihi

Snowdog
Guess.

AerosmithChick
Errr Santa.

Snowdog
Wrong.

AerosmithChick
The sandman who will make me sleep through the phone with sand. Are you gonna help me?

Snowdog
Hahaha maybe, but no.

Snowdog
Hehe, rich fantasy you got there, but no. I want to help you sleep but I’m not the sand man. Night kissy.

AerosmithChick
Hey, you give a night kissy. How do you know about that? But you’re not gonna help me?

Snowdog
I know more nice kisses. You gotta try a little harder though.

AerosmithChick
I’m a little tired which makes my fantasy go crazy. You gonna give me a hint? The night kissy’s are totally my thing.

Snowdog
Hehe, we’re more alike than we thought it seems. Just met you at the show. If you still remember my name I’ll give you another one, [AerosmithChick]

AerosmithChick
Hihi I was thinking that. But you didn’t introduce yourself, so I don’t know your name yet.

Snowdog
Yes I did, but it doesn’t matter. I also suck at name, but I know yours!

AerosmithChick
That’s good and suprising. I did put my name in your phone after all night kissy

Snowdog
Hehe that’s very sharp at this time of night. I’ll bring that kiss by personally someday. We’ll text, hottie! X Snowdog

AerosmithChick
Sweet dreams

Snowdog
You too

AerosmithChick
Night kissy x

Snowdog
Big kiss back for you

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The next day
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Snowdog
Hey rock ‘n roll chickie. Got rid of your hangover yet?

AerosmithChick
Hehe yea, a long time. Got up early. You too to enjoy the sun?

Snowdog
Tennis huh? Preppy in disguise? Went on internship talk, sat in that damned train again this morning at 9 am.

AerosmithChick
Preppy? No :S I just like sports. How did the interview go?

Snowdog
Just messing with you. You can handle that right? Talk went alright. You’re having vacation already by the way?

AerosmithChick
Yea, one and a half week now. Was planning for 3 weeks, but it didn’t go through. Gonna do fun stuff this week. You? What kinda intern talk was it?

Snowdog
Sweet of you to cancel your vacation for me. Internship talk was at [Snowman Inc.]. Next week I’ll be free too. You go out in Utrecht?

AerosmithChick
I’m so sweet . Strangely never, but I work around the corner there. You? What kinda company is it where you gonna go on internship?

Snowdog
Haha aww. Utrecht is cool. We should go there sometime. [Snowman Inc.] is a marketing company. You watched the game tonight by the way?

AerosmithChick
Yea, bits of it. You too? In a bar? You go out a lot in Utrecht? What are you gonna do at that company?

****, what’s with the 20 questions?

Snowdog
I watched at home, relaxed. You were probably throwing beers around like a crazy person in a bar. xx

AerosmithChick
Haha, noo. Just at home. I heard yesterday, that throwing beer isn’t cool.

I was throwing beer at the show at one point and some chick behind me got pissed. I told her she shouldn’t go to hard rock concerts if she doesn’t like stuff like that. The girl noticed this little event and laughed about it.

Snowdog
Hahaha who told you that?

AerosmithChick
Haha, yesterday a friend/colleague of mine was mad at you because she got beer on her.

Snowdog
I didn’t realize she was with you. You’ll forgive me, right :’(

AerosmithChick
What’s there to forgive? She shouldn’t go to hard rock concerts if she doesn’t like that

Snowdog
True that. You had fun, right. Just a little too bad you didn’t take up my offer for the nice view.

AerosmithChick
What would be too bad for you than? The skirt was really too short for that. For that, I’m a little too dignified.

Snowdog
Too bad for you I mean, and the guys behind us. That skirt looked cute on you by the way

AerosmithChick
Thanks, yea I liked the show. I had my fun.

Snowdog
Pretty heavy that you walked around all sexy like that with all those old hippies around. I wore my jeans for the occasion

AerosmithChick
That’s a wise choice for you indeed. I can handle old hippies.


Snowdog
Here, can you imagine it? The show was cool indeed. [AerosmithChick] I’m going to sleep. It’s been a pleasure. Big x

AerosmithChick
Sweet dreams, night kissy.

Snowdog
Only a little nighty kiss again?

AerosmithChick
Hmm… What would you rather have?

Snowdog
A long passionate kiss, that will shoot shivers down your spine into your toes while lightning strikes with explosions and fireworks and ****. Can you fix that?

AerosmithChick
Close your eyes and sleep well. I might come visit you in your dream.

Snowdog
Hey, it’s a start.



Comments are welcome as always, as long as they're constructive.
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[Tesl]

Comments are welcome as always, as long as they're constructive.

Don't do massive text exchanges, there is no point. Instead, organize your next meeting so you can spend time together in person to have these conversations.

 

[snowdog]

We texted a little more, at one point I sent:

Snowdog
I like texting with you, but I'd like hanging out more. Next week I'm done with my exams. What about it?

AerosmithChick
Well, what did you had in mind?

Snowdog
I'll give you a call after the match (important soccer match, world championship)


I called her an hour or so after the match. She picked up, said she was busy, asked if she could call back later. I said sure, between eight and nine is fine. Nine thirty, still no call. I just wait and don't take the initiative again. Just as I'm about to say to myself "**** it, oh well, it was nice while it lasted". She calls, playful short conversation. She suggest we go eating out, I say it's a better idea to have a drink later in the day, she thinks it's cool.

Date set, next monday. Nice. I'll keep you guys posted.


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[snowdog]

By the way, now I think of it, the reason she was resisting me kissing her during the show could very probably be because her friend/colleague was standing next to us the whole time.

 

[snowdog]

The text message saga continues, but takes an interesting turn. Read on, dear readers.


We hadn't texted the day after we set the date, so I thought I'd send one message to get us in the mood a little bit more.

Snowdog
What up sexy lady. Enjoying the sun too?

AerosmithChick
Yea, I was sitting in the sun. Going to eat now. You're chilling too? You got facebook? I was curious for you age as well.

Snowdog
Yea I got facebook. I'm chillin in the yard, having a beer will be done later. How old would you think I am?

AerosmithChick
I asked you first. You go first.

Snowdog
Alright, to be fair... around twenty?

AerosmithChick
Are you twenty? How old do you think I am?

Snowdog
I'm guessing YOU twenty. Keep paying attention

AerosmithChick
You've gotta be kidding.

Snowdog
Older?

AerosmithChick
For sure.

Snowdog
It was dark remember, and you probably look young. 25?

AerosmithChick
+10. Don't be shocked. I'm not so sure if us dating is such a good idea Cause you're a lot younger.

Snowdog
35?? Get the **** outta here.

Snowdog
Hmm, alright. How old do you think I am then?

[nothing for two hours]

Snowdog
Look Aerosmithchick. You aren't gonna tell me that you're going to throw away this potential adventure, that would probably be a lot of fun for you as well, because of some number? I think you're a fun girl and hot as well, that's the only thing that matters to me. Monday still 7PM? x Snowdog

AerosmithChick
Hihi... it IS a little exciting yes...

[HOLY ****.]

AerosmithChick
I think you're 21 btw x.

Snowdog
Hehe, you're wrong too. Just a little less I guess.

AerosmithChick
Alright, tell me

Snowdog
23, is that exciting enough for ya?

AerosmithChick
hihi, how do I find you on facebook. I wanna take a look at ya.

Snowdog
snowdog.facebook.biz. I'm at some bar now so I'll accept you tomorrow. I'm looking forward to Monday already, how about you?

AerosmithChick
Enjoy chilling in the sun...

Snowdog
Alright. Goodnight you.

AerosmithChick
you too

AerosmithChick
That's really sweet of you that you thought I was so much younger x

Snowdog
Yea, but you're a real cutie Sweet dreams

Conclusion:
!!!POTENTIAL AWESOMENESS AHEAD!!!


I went out tonight alone. Also glorious times featuring ass grabbing, relentless flirting and more. I will write about it tomorrow when I regained my energy a bit more.

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[snowdog]

Yesterday I had my last exam of the year. I hadn't slept before the exam, spent the night learning, up for 30 hours or so. After the exam I went home, got high in the sun (for the first time in like a year or so, it was really nice and deserving) while listening to the Doors, took a relaxing bath and went for a nap.

In the evening I went drinking some beers with a couple of my friends. We went to a bar and sat outside. The weather was really nice and we all just chilled out. My friends went home around 2 AM and I decided I'd go out alone to see if I can do some cool sh*t.

Girl 1
I first went to the Irish pub and ordered a beer. The place was pretty empty. I talked with some guy sitting at the bar for a while, finished my beer and left. I drove to another bar that I liked. I ordered a beer and walked around on the terrace. I opened a pretty cute girl with brown curly hair. We talked for a while and we hit it off pretty well.

I opened her by asking what's her opinion on me having a date with a woman that's a lot older than me. She said it's okay and I asked her if she'd date an older guy. She said she would, but it'd be different because guys are 'supposed' to be older than the girl. I asked her how old she was and she said twenty.

Me: "Well that would make me a viable candidate for you"

Her: -"Hihihi I guess so

This went on for a while. I busted her balls and it all went so smooth. In fact, I couldn't believe how ****ing smooth I was the whole time. There wasn't a single moment that was awkward or where I felt I didn't have control. I was in my perfect vibe somehow. Everything seemed to click. I had this feeling of "so this is how it's one". Awesome.

After a while one of her friends came and I handled her pretty well. A little while later another one of her friends came and she ****blocked me hard. I tried to turn it around but it was just over, BOOM like that.

Well F*CK IT. I laughed it off, ordered another beer and sat down at the bar. Some guy on the left to me toasted and hit his glass against mine. "Sometimes that's just needed", he said. I laughed and we talked a bit. I talked about how I got blown off and that it's cool and all. He had massive respect for me because of the fact that I walked up to these chicks and chatted them up. Two blondes were sitting further down the bar from us. One was pretty damn hot, the other one was a little bit fat and seemed drunk. I asked the guy if he was alone and if I should call them over. He said he was with a buddy but that I should try it. He kinda challenged me and I was like "OK" and stood up and just walked over.

Girl 2 & 3
I came standing between them, resting my arms on both their shoulders and said that they looked cranky and bored. BOOM, I was IN. More of this stuff, we shoot the sh*t, it's flirty from the start. Heavy kino on the hot one. I said that they should come over because we were bored too and they said we should come to them. After a little bit of bullsh*tting, I agreed we would come over. I know the whole philosophy about not giving your power away, but it was okay in this situation. I was ****y as hell from the start, witty, sarcastic, ball-busting. I felt immediate attraction.

I walked back to my new drinking buddy and say he should come over and that it's alright. Suddenly he turns into a p*ssy and says he doesn't feel like it. I recognize myself in this guy right now. I used to be like this a year ago. But not anymore. I walk back, grab a stool and go sit next to the hot one. I chat them both up very well. The conversation is really flirty and sexy. At one point we talk about living in this city. She says she lives with a boyfriend. I ignore and keep on doing what I'm doing.

She calls me an ass-hole a bunch of times and I call her a b*tch and say we'd make a good match together because of this. She says, while looking me right in the eyes, that she once met a guy that she couldn't stand because he was rude, vulgar and aggressive, just like me, and still woke up next to him. I reply with some more witty sh*t and it works. I'm all over this girl. When I talk to her I talk really close to her face like I'm about to kiss her and she does the same. I put my hand on her leg, put my arm around her and pull her close, rubbing my foot against hers etc... everything indicates that it's on.

At one point she says something about her ass not looking good in the pants she's wearing. I say it looks pretty good from up here but she should stand up and walk a circle for me to make better judgment. She laughs. At one point she goes out to smoke a cigarette.

She says: "You don't smoke do you? I can tell cause your skin still looks pretty"

She strokes her finger over my forehead.

Me: -"Yea, but smoking has benefits as well. You can't have that great figure of yours just by spending time in the gym. Smoking helps you with that for sure"

She laughs

Me: "...and cocaine"

She laughs some more, punches me etc. This is awesome. I'm just having fun, the only thing I care about is saying sh*t that amuses ME.

I talk with her friend. She's pretty cool also, but drunk. I'm still pretty sober and it's hard to have a good talk with someone who's wasted. We talk about music, the bartender joins into our conversation, he's a pretty cool guy. It's all good, we're having a good time. I tell her I came here alone and she thinks that's awesome.

After half an hour or so the hottie returns. She tells us she met a friend and they talked outside. By this time they have bought me my third beer. I told them after they bought my first one that I didn't have any more money on me and that I wouldn't be able to buy them a round back. They say they think I'm a cool guy and that it's alright, and they would had told me to f*ck off a long time ago if they didn't like me. I tell them they should ask random guys here to buy them beer.

Me: "Just act like an arrogant b*tch and tell one of these dumbasses around here to buy you a drink. I'm sure you'll be able to pull it off"

Her: -"Well thank you, ass-hole. What makes you think I could do that?"

"Don't be silly. I'm sure you've done that in one point in your life. I mean you're hot enough (I run my hand up and down her leg a few times) and you already showed me you can be a b*tch, hahaha."

I tell her I took a good look at her ass when she walked off and that it's one fine ass. She tells me her ass looks big in these shorts. I tell her that's good and that any normal guy loves himself a healthy ass on a chick (for the record, she really did have a very nice ass). This was the way we talked all the time. She made fun of the town I came from and I made fun of her mannerisms and basically was calling her a bi*tch all the time. Heavy kino, aggressive.

At one point she talks about her boyfriend again and I ask her if she's planning on marrying the guy while looking her straight in the eyes with an over-obvious "I WANNA F*CK YOU!!!!" look on my face. She tells me she doesn't know, but that it's a serious relationship. I ask her if it's true that a girl knows within 5 seconds whether she wants to either marry, f*ck or kill a guy. Really flirty conversation ensues but she makes again clear that she's in a serious relationship.

I notice a ring on her finger and grab her hand to take a good look at it. She tells me her boyfriend wants to buy her a Rolex. I tell her I'd buy her the $15 eighties digital Casio watch or buy a fake Rolex for $20 and tell her it's really expensive. She laughs her ass off etc. Good stuff.

The bar closes and we all walk out. As we're outside and as I pass her I grab her ass and give it a good squeeze. I say again, that her ass is indeed a fine one. I tell here there's nothing more I'd like to do than to go home with her right now, and that "I got a feeling that she's on the same page". She slowly nods her head while looking at me while taking a long drag from her cigarette.

Me: "...just too bad you're in a relationship".

She takes another drag.

Her: "Well, I'm sure there are plenty others around that are just like me"

Me: "Yea, but..."

Her: "...but, yea, not right here, right now"

A moment of silence, eye contact, one could almost see the tension between us in the air. I wanted her and she wanted me.

Me: "Well, I'm gonna get outta here before I'm going crazy. Gimme your facebook so we can stay in touch. I owe you a few beers"

She gives it to me and we kiss on the cheeks goodbye. Holy sh*t what an anticlimax.


Conclusion
I have never been this aggressive and completely careless of the outcome. Especially touching. Last night proved to me that you can get away with pretty much everything. This is the sh*t, fella's. This is the next level. Seriously awesome sh*t!

Like I said before, every night is the best night ever. It hasn't happened to me lately that it went worse than the last time. I feel like I'm seriously on the track to becoming a womanizer, haha.



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[kingsam]

I'm just having fun, the only thing I care about is saying sh*t that amuses ME.

self amusement rules...!

I have never been this aggressive and completely careless of the outcome. Especially touching. Last night proved to me that you can get away with pretty much everything. This is the sh*t, fella's. This is the next level. Seriously awesome sh*t!

you got away wiht it coz your "woo" was there,
touching (intent) + no woo = creepy
woo + no intent = entertainer guy
you got good balance going...

 

[snowdog]

I have so much respect for the way you kept this self improvement program going for so long. I might try one of these soon but I have ADD so I don't think I'd be able to keep it going for long . Also, what are those numbers for at the end of your posts?

You did well with that second chick, man. The only thing you could have done better was getting a real kiss off her. Even if you went for it and she said no, you could've just laughed it off because, in the words of Pook, rejection is always better than regret.

More questions, did you get the first chicks number? and where are you from? I'm assuming somewhere outside the US.

Thanks... I write this stuff down so I can keep track of my progress as well. Just start it man, who knows. The numbers are the total amount of views the thread has had. I dunno, I just find it fun to track.

Second chick went great. I didn't get the first chick's number as her friends ****blocked me.

I'm from the Netherlands. Next year I'll be living for 5 months in Florida. Exchange student.

you got away wiht it coz your "woo" was there,
touching (intent) + no woo = creepy
woo + no intent = entertainer guy
you got good balance going...

Damn right. I had a good balance going on that night. It was ON.

 

[snowdog]

Went out yesterday. I was visiting an friend in a different town whom I hadn't seen in a long, long time. We hung out during the day and in the evening we went out. This guy is a good guy, but he has ADD. He was probably off his meds because it's holiday or something, but the guy's behavior was annoying me like crazy all the time. Sure, he can't help it, but it doesn't stop it from being annoying, plus, last time I saw him it was way less bad. He lives in his own world, doesn't notice what's going on around him and in others, he can only see sh*t from his own perspective and if something happens which isn't part of his world, he turns into a little b*tch. A person like that is really tiring to deal with.

So we went out. I was a little cranky, but determined. I was dog tired also. Hardly slept the whole week (finishing the year, all kinds of school sh*t. I aced all my sh*t by the way), had a long tiring drive with loads of c*cksuckers on the road who don't know how to drive a car and had spent the day with a semi-retard with tunnel vision.

First bar. Cute hotty with blonde curly hair. I ordered my drink and we had some good eye contact. Later on she walks by to pick up my empty glass and take a new order. I ask her if she's going out tonight and if there's stuff to do. She's not sure. I tell her to give me her number anyway so we can meet up if she'd go. She gives me her number. A few hours later I text:

What up, sexy barmaid. When's your shift over?

After two hours no reaction, I text:

Fake number, or a diss? That's the least you owe me

No reaction, I delete her number. F*ck that b*tch.

I text Aerosmithchick to try to set up a new date. She says she'll get back to me once she knows when she has free time cos she has got to work. Who knows, maybe it'll still happen.


We go to a bar. Place is pretty crowded, but the crowd is kinda dead. They play good music here. I drink a few whiskeys to get over my tiredness and get on the dancefloor and start dancing. I pull some girls into the dancefloor and dance with them. Some fat German guys with beards are standing on the side, watching. I pull them on the dancefloor too and they join the fun and are having a great time. I gather more girls and I dance/grind with them. It's nice. After twenty minutes of this, the bar is having a party. This **** is cool. I dance with the girls, but I can't really close them. I kinda missed the intent and had trouble building sexual tension. Or maybe it was a combination of being extremely tired and whiskey d*ck, who knows.

We go to a second bar and we go inside. Sh*t music here, it kinda ruins my vibe. We go outside and sit down. Some guy who my friend knows sits down and they start talking. I join the conversation every now and then. He's a funny guy. One table next to us there are 5 girls sitting. Almost all of them are hot. I shift to them and open them (can't remember how). One of them looks at me and recognizes me. She starts laughing and asks me if I was in another town last thursday. I was and she told me I approached one of her friends. I start to laugh and say she rejected me, she says she knows. (didn't write that night down).

The one girl that did comes walking up and joins us. We're all talking, chilling, laughing, it's all good. I'm the center of attention. I talk with the hot one and she says they are about to go back. I tell them we should go with them and make a party. She's pondering the idea. Just as I get the feeling I almost have won her over, a MASSIVE ****block happens. One of the friends literally jerks her away and they all start walking away. As they walk away she looks back with a face like "I can't do anything, sorry". I don't give up that easily. I walk after them and say I want to "borrow their friend for a sec". They f*ckin swarm around her and shield her. Oh well, I can't beat 5 chicks defending their girlfriend. It was a pretty cool effort anyway if you ask me.

Back to the first bar. The place is almost empty. My batteries are also empty. I keep on drinking hard booze anyway. Now I think back of it, I think the reason why I got so sloshed was that I had a sitdown with my psychologist (for the first time in half a year or so) and we talked about some ugly things that were still bothering me. Usually that sets back my mood for a few days as well. Despite that, I concluded that I was doing pretty damn well. I'm doing good in University, something that I would NEVER think was possible, and I'm going in a great direction on a personal level.

Most chicks left by now. Only these goth looking chicks with tattoos are around. Oh well, f*ck it. I need practice anyway. Why not open them, just for the hell of it. We talk a bit, I grab her ass a few times. It's a nice conversation, but there's no attraction at all from both sides. Woke up with a hangover, got in the car and drove home. Halfway I realized that I was still drunk. Once I got home I took a shower and passed out and slept for 13 hours straight. God damn, I need a vacation.


CONCLUSION:
No succesful closes, but I can definitely conclude that I'm nothing short of an approach machine now. I don't care about the outcome anymore. That's completely gone, no joke. I just gotta keep on going out and it will lead to positive results, I'm sure of that.

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[HypeR]

Good job Snowdog,

You have come a long way. Looking at the last pages of this thread you got quite some balls. Closing is not your problem, seriously, if the opportunity arises I'm confident that you will close without hesitation.

But I do think that you miss sincerity in your convo's, don't flirt automatically, just go with the flow of the convo. The moment you talk to a girl she instantly knows what you are trying to do. So make sure she knows that you are trying to have a good/fun convo instead of trying to score.

 

[snowdog]

Good job Snowdog,

You have come a long way. Looking at the last pages of this thread you got quite some balls. Closing is not your problem, seriously, if the opportunity arises I'm confident that you will close without hesitation.

But I do think that you miss sincerity in your convo's, don't flirt automatically, just go with the flow of the convo. The moment you talk to a girl she instantly knows what you are trying to do. So make sure she knows that you are trying to have a good/fun convo instead of trying to score.

Yea, I feel so too. I've really reached the level of being completely careless about the outcome or what people around me think. In fact, I find it funny seeing people react to me.

Thanks for that tip, man. That's a good one. Now I think of it, I might be coming on too hard indeed sometimes.

 

[snowdog]

So, tonight I had the intention of going out alone. But, it's Monday night and there is nothing to do around here. I called a friend and we arrange to chill out and after that we'll go out. This friend makes these crazy psychedelic paintings in this place which is owned by a pretty successful painter. He tells me to come to this guy and we'll chill there first. I go there.

Crazy vibe hanging there. The guy is around fifty and he gives me a good, strong hug the first time we meet. People randomly walk in and out and they all hug me instead of shaking hands as a greet. I hear stories about people getting f*cked on drugs and sh*t. I chilled with some people, smoked some pot. This was all cool, but I still wanted to go out so I left after a while.

I drove into the city and everything I saw was closed. EVERYTHING. Till I came across a bar that was still open. Maybe 10 people here. I order a coke (I try to avoid driving and being drunk as much as possible) and make a chat with the bartender (Rule 1: Have a chat with the first person you encounter, it loosens you up).

I walk outside and see a familiar face. Cool dude, we talk a bit. I see one blonde hottie. She's literally the only girl there. I walk up and talk with her. It turns out that she's working at the police. I joke around a bit and she throws massive sh*t tests at me. I keep my cool pretty well, but she's with guy friends who kinda ****block me. At one point they start to talk about gay sex and I get out of the conversation immediately to go talk with my friend. I kinda did this because I wanted to show that I'm not caring about the outcome of the conversation. I don't like this bullsh*t, so I'm out, I'll be back later.

I talk with my friend again, and what do you know, after ten minutes or so, SHE comes over to US. We talk a bit more, but being high kinda ruined it for me. It was making me insecure and self-conscious. Nothing much came out of the conversation so at one point I just left. Kissed her three times on the cheeks. All her friends start laughing and she turns red like a stop sign.

I say while I patting her head like a dog. : "What's wrong? I'm easy like that"

I don't know why I said that or what I was trying to say. But it was funny to me. I walked out of the bar and gave one last look before I turned the corner. They were all still laughing and the girl was also laughing and looking at me. I waved and she waved back and I just did it casually, cool.

Hehe, funny sh*t. Again not much outcome but I can conclude the following things for sure:

• I'm completely outcome independent
• I just don't give a f*ck
• When I see a girl I like, I just go for it
• People around me don't affect me that much anymore
• Being under the influence of alcohol or cannabis, actually f*cks with my game

Let me tell you something, that last one in the list is a suprise for me. A big suprise actually. Up until now, the more I was completely F*CKED out of my mind by various substances, the better. Two years ago I'd get completely f*ckin trashed before I could even approach one girl. One year later I'd get a little buzzed to give me some confidence. Now I constantly feel like I'd be the best at this while (almost) sober. Because I'm more sharp and quick that way.

I don't need alcohol to take away the fear/caring anymore and that sh*t is awesome. Going out alone doesn't scare me at all anymore actually. Next Thursday I'm going to Amsterdam solo. No one knows me there and I hardly know the city or the places to go. Thursday night is the going out night for the college crowd, so that's cool too. I'm making this sh*t happen!


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[snowdog]

lol, tracked her down on facebook by the way. Sent her a PM

"Even though you're with five-o, I'm not scared of you"

I'll probably never see her again, so why not? We'll see what happens.