My Amazing LTR GF has a "Bad Past"

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Rudy_TubeSteak said:
How about you LMS, do you have a squeaky clean past?
Yes I do - my life is based on principles, reason, and quality of life!! Hors deteriorate all three!!!
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Yes I do - my life is based on principles, reason, and quality of life!! Hors deteriorate all three!!!
I can't argue there. That's why I exclusively date slvts, since they want nothing more from me that my affection, attention, and playful sex.

I don't date any girl who only has sex-for-hire - classical 'good girls' who are looking for husbands are ABSOLUTELY out of the question, as are any woman who hesitates even for a moment in determining if she wants to go to bed with a man because she's afraid having recreational sex with him will lower her 'market value' when considering selling herself to a husband.

If she doesn't make her choices regarding her own sexuality ENTIRELY based upon her desires and enthusiasms, but rather restrains herself because society has reminded her that men won't want her if she's been using her own free-will, then she's not just a wh0re, she's also an idiot.

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Lol, LMS you must be getting quite a work out on sosuave with the trend of hors. I could just imagine the keyboard letters , O, R, H, S (not in particular order) rubbed out from heavy use. I respect your cause, it is not a smooth road. You are definitely rare!

Sadly a quality woman that you would talk about is very rare and is only seen in my family (first partner is last) although I am the black sheep and definitely the wayward one.

LMS, could you one day talk about the quality girl and share with us your experience with quality women. Could you perhaps start a separate thread?
 
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Rudy_TubeSteak said:
Lol, LMS you must be getting quite a work out on sosuave with the trend of hors. I could just imagine the keyboard letters , O, R, H, S (not in particular order) rubbed out from heavy use. I respect your cause, it is not a smooth road. You are definitely rare!

Sadly a quality woman that you would talk about is very rare and is only seen in my family (first partner is last) although I am the black sheep and definitely the wayward one.

LMS, could you one day talk about the quality girl and share with us your experience with quality women. Could you perhaps start a separate thread?
Yes, I said this before - but I feel the need to expose the "Hor" matrix, but I fear most here will not understand my expose since they are the most affected by "IT" and thus the perpetrators of "IT" - the hor matrix!!!!

YES!!! It is the men who are advancing the hor agenda!!! Fools - weak men have promoted the unnatural order of things!!!
 

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Ahh once there's the blue and red pill, what then?

I can't say I haven't been involved in that hor agenda...but dang I'd have to lock myself up or live with my mother until I marry someone!
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Rudy_TubeSteak said:
Ahh once there's the blue and red pill, what then?

I can't say I haven't been involved in that hor agenda...but dang I'd have to lock myself up or live with my mother until I marry someone!
Not so!! But once you enter the "Hor Matrix" - the hor is in control!!!! Just look outside of your window and see The Matrix at work!!! Foolish weak men supplicating to to a lower life-form - the hor!! You have been bamboozled, hoodwinked, led astray!! The man has been manipulated and controlled by "sensuality" (the woman's domain) and not "reason" (the man's domain) !
 

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LMS, there is a HUGE difference in allowing yourself to be controlled by a hor and having no hang-ups about sex.

I don't give my power away to women, if she chooses to celebrate her life with an awesome person like me, great, if not, I can always find another woman. What this thread is about is something completely different. It's absurd to have unhealthy sexual inhibitions. Having a threesome has nothing to do with being a hor, unless you have them every night with different people you barely know.

I have to agree Johnny, this girl is a keeper and has a free sexuality. Rudy was wrong by judging her and trying to inflict erroneous beliefs in her.
Read David Shade. Why?
"This guy who I interviewed knows more about how to please a woman than practically anyone else alive. He is the real deal." -David DeAngelo
I couldn't agree more.
 

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I wasn't really judging her, I wasn't inflisting erroneous beliefs I was just saying it didn't feel right with me for some unknown reasons (o rknown for some of the guys here). I was searching for a way to be logical about things and see her for how she is with me not what she did back then which was out of her character in the first place.

She always used protection, health checks and gets pap smears every so often and with good results. She wouldnt do anything with me until she knew for good I wasn't carrying anything.

I guess its a case of different strokes for different folks. Judging by this thread I am still finding out a balance.
 

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What the hell...? This is the 21st century, of course every girl you meet will have sucked more c*cks than you can image and swallowed more jizz than you've had water. There is no way to get around that. Learn to accept it and embrace the hor!
 

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I wasn't really judging her, I wasn't inflisting erroneous beliefs I was just saying it didn't feel right with me for some unknown reasons
That is the same thing, mate. You we're demonstrating your self-limiting beliefs by reacting the way that you did. I don't know how much you reacted to it and how extreme, but it gave her an impression of your sexual beliefs, that's for sure. I'm not saying you can't turn this around. She's probably still really attracted to you and loves you. I would chill out for a minute, fix the way you view sexuality and than tell her you we're a bit overwhelmed by it when she said it to you but now that you've got some time to think about it you accept and understand it. Maybe you can even hook up with another girl for a ONS in the future. As long as you make clear that you love YOUR girl and that to the other girl it's just a fun night based on physical attraction towards both your girl and you, it's all good.
 

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Yea I wasn't even that aware, I was kinda shattered or overwhelmed by it.

To see where she stands by her experience. Let me share you my experience.

For the girls Ive been with who I know for sure have less "experience" than my current gf:
-Absolute Psycho who gives off really bad vibes. A bit crazy and play more head games than anybody. Usually hairy and use a bit of teeth too much. Ouchies.
-Only do things when they are drunk and totally a different person. A real top class clinger as well. Tries to put guilt on me or even make it out as if I pushed it too far...What was I suppose to do when they take me home, pay or drinks and cab, make me breakfast afterwards then later on blame me for making them do bad thing...e.g letting them get on top, letting them guide their mouths on to the wang, scream out for Os etc. Just stupid.
-More likely to have cheated from they 4year relationship boyfriend etc.

For the girls Ive been with who I know for sure have more "experience" than my current gf:
-STDs (later on from other peoples stories, but I'm clean and they got worse as they go about theyre business.
-Too shady and make false commitments and promises I couldn't care less in the first place.
-They drop me to see if I would chase them (LSE, surprise surprise) to see how much they think they are that important. They get extremely depressed when they find out I don't play into the games.
-Spin too many plates and just too scary who they've been with.
-LMS would love this, the generic, textbook hors.

So yea, I guess I have a pretty good keeper and I just have to work my way upback to the level I was with before I had this minor "setback". I just hope she is not being her "too honest" self and regurgitate way more information that I am prepared for.

Anymore advice I would really appreciate. Thank you very much, this had made my day.
 

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Yea I wasn't even that aware, I was kinda shattered or overwhelmed by it.

To see where she stands by her experience. Let me share you my experience.

For the girls Ive been with who I know for sure have less "experience" than my current gf:
-Absolute Psycho who gives off really bad vibes. A bit crazy and play more head games than anybody. Usually hairy and use a bit of teeth too much. Ouchies.
-Only do things when they are drunk and totally a different person. A real top class clinger as well. Tries to put guilt on me or even make it out as if I pushed it too far...What was I suppose to do when they take me home, pay or drinks and cab, make me breakfast afterwards then later on blame me for making them do bad thing...e.g letting them get on top, letting them guide their mouths on to the wang, scream out for Os etc. Just stupid.
-More likely to have cheated from they 4year relationship boyfriend etc.

For the girls Ive been with who I know for sure have more "experience" than my current gf:
-STDs (later on from other peoples stories, but I'm clean and they got worse as they go about theyre business.
-Too shady and make false commitments and promises I couldn't care less in the first place.
-They drop me to see if I would chase them (LSE, surprise surprise) to see how much they think they are that important. They get extremely depressed when they find out I don't play into the games.
-Spin too many plates and just too scary who they've been with.
-LMS would love this, the generic, textbook hors.

So yea, I guess I have a pretty good keeper and I just have to work my way upback to the level I was with before I had this minor "setback". I just hope she is not being her "too honest" self and regurgitate way more information that I am prepared for.

Anymore advice I would really appreciate. Thank you very much, this had made my day.


All of those are hors. It's a vicious cycle. I can see you truly love this girl due to all the "logical" :rolleyes: arguments you are making for her in order to justify her wrong doings in your own mind! I know and see right through the act because I've done the exact same thing several times in my past.

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This my friend is VERY unhealthy. In this hor matrix we are forced to swallow up our rational motives and made to look evil for having this natural instinct in the first place. Why would you literally lie to yourself and accept these filthy nasty hors as "women" and treat them as the princesses who they think they are regardless of her horish past. I can't even describe it in words how bad this is. If anything I could probably write an entire book on it.
 

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LMS, there is a HUGE difference in allowing yourself to be controlled by a hor and having no hang-ups about sex.

I don't give my power away to women, if she chooses to celebrate her life with an awesome person like me, great, if not, I can always find another woman. What this thread is about is something completely different. It's absurd to have unhealthy sexual inhibitions. Having a threesome has nothing to do with being a hor, unless you have them every night with different people you barely know.

I have to agree Johnny, this girl is a keeper and has a free sexuality. Rudy was wrong by judging her and trying to inflict erroneous beliefs in her.
Read David Shade. Why?


I agree with you on the entire control issue however you must realize that these women you speak of you DON'T fall in love with. The issue here is that our original poster fell in love. This happens to so many men when they fall in love with a girl/woman and she decides to tell him about her stupid past. What better timing.... AFTER the man falls in love in oder to not scare him away. They sure do a hell of a job at creating an image in order to trap your heart. If anything I can state that this is very unhealthy as well. If you're not planning on marrying a girl then I feel it is ok to not judge and take it for what she is. However when it comes down to something serious you MUST stand your ground!
 

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The amount of men, even on this site, who will accept/excuse bad behaviour on the part of women is astounding. I do not understand it. I can only assume they do it in the hopes of women like Oprah validating them as "good" men and hoping against hope that this will get them laid.

I do understand the desire to be able to have sex with multiple women, of course, but not the constant excuses. It does not matter if a girl flakes, is an AW, a slvt, a hor, a liar, underhanded, duplicitous, etc. Somebody will come on here, and under the guise of some new-age "sexual freedom" approach, make excuses and blame the MAN for demanding that a woman have integrity.

LMS is right. We live in the hor-matrix! We are all slaves, gentlemen.

Where is my red pill?

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God, talk about regressing on this issue.

I knew from the start about her history, NOT after I fell in love with her, She wasn't trying to create an image to keep me, if anyone is guilty of that it would be me in the first place. I was the one creating an image necessary to keep her (fake it till you make it).

Some people on this thread failed to make judgement on her positives and instantly focussed on the negatives. Everyone just sees it as an act this or act that.

I've been with girls with lesser experience who has constantly display wh*rish behaviours. Even virgins who play and sex up so many boys and wh*re for others attention.

Man, from what everyone on the "anti-hor" team states, every girl I come across are HORS! So how am I suppose to do my sarging and practise my love? The CONVENT???
 

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ducaro said:
my sincere advice: whatever said and done, don't fall head over heels in love with any woman. it will take you no where.:nono: remember we are logical and they are emotional.
Ducaro, I almost mistook you for Dr. Phil! Not because I'm assuming that you're a fat, bald hick with questionable credentials, but because of the stellar advice you offer up. Have you ever been in love? Do you know how wonderful it feels to share something beautiful with another person?

Yes, women may be more in touch with their emotions, but what you call "logic" is often tragically flawed. Trust me, your open hostility towards women really will take you nowhere.

In fact, I would recommend that you read the thread titled "why are women nuts?", specifically paying attention to a post by Johnny Soporno (#65). I hope you find it helpful :)
 

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I just broke up with her. Her good friend who got her in a threesome just busted her way into visiting her and staying for a few days. I just find it very disrespectful and insulting but her friend insists on coming because she doesnt want to refund her ticket. And my gal (well ex) said she couldnt stop her from coming cos she's worried about their friend ending their friendship.

Neither could compromise. My gal (ex) said said she tried convincing her not to come but not enough to go somewhere else but to no avail.

I hope it was all worth it to lose me. This is not an ultimatum, but a question on where who's credibility, loyalty and integrity lie.

I am hurt but at least there is a solution.
 
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Rudy, your departure is no surprise, it is expected! Hors are for themselves and not for you -- us men!! I guess you just found out!!
 

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Good for you Rudy though it must have been tough.

In the same scenario reversed I'm sure you would've moved heaven and earth to get a friend to stay somewhere else if it made the girl that you truly loved uncomfortable for good reason to have that friend around.
 

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Yea you are right...I can't deny I feel like absolute sh*t right now.

Her friend is such a selfish hor anyways. She probably thinks "oh they will get over it, or she can find a hotter guy with me anyways" Her friend ignored her (ex) pleas to not come around but that pigheaded hor of a friend decided to come anyway.

My ex has also moved heaven and earth to please me as well...I guess some things just can't be helped but I wasn't too sure if she has done enough to prevent her friend from coming around anyways as she has her big finals coming up.....Now she will probably fail because of the break up. She was the top of her class too which I feel really bad about.
 

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