More than a one night stand

[GoodMan32]

Yeah, I'm a little disappointed that he seems more fixated on presenting an argument justifying his actions than understanding the root of his problems. Maybe he'll get it, maybe he won't.



You are still justifying bad behavior here, and I don't know why. A woman's bad behavior doesn't absolve you of your role when you engage with it. Sleeping with taken/married women is not something to be proud of or aspire to - you are potentially ruining somebody's family, or even your own life by needlessly having casual sex with somebody whose spouse (likely) loves them and will often act out emotionally if that truth comes to light.

Even worse, you sound proud of your actions in that bold statement at the end there. I will try to give you advice so you can course-correct but know that I think you are 100% a piece of sh** for regularly doing this, justifying it, AND being proud of it.



This tells me you're not a chubby chaser - but you want sex with someone, even if it's not with someone you want. Like I said before, you lack standards, and that is not an attractive trait.



This is degenerate behavior. You waited until a woman was naked in your bed to turn her down? How in the hell does a woman you're not attracted to magically end up at your place, in your bed, undressed, without being stopped at any point before that?

Can you imagine how you'd feel if a woman was interested in you until she saw you naked? Can you imagine pulling out your c*ck and that being the moment a woman decides she'd prefer that you leave?



Fetishes in general are strange. That's why they're called fetishes. The fact that you have such a desire to exercise your fetishes means you will have to choose whether it's more important that you maintain a relationship, or whether you get to act out all your fantasies.



This is called circular reasoning. You're saying the reason women don't want you isn't because you're desperate...but also that you're desperate because women don't want you...therefore you come across as desperate and women don't want you. Do you get it?

I'm tired and need to go to bed so I'll try to wrap this up. First and foremost, as I've mentioned in some of my other lengthier posts about getting girls, you don't DESERVE anything from women. You are not ENTITLED to sex, relationships, love, companionship, or anything - you need to become the person that a woman will want those things from.

And I'll tell you what...women do not want those things with a homewrecker who searches Craiglist for sex, pays for prostitutes, has no standards, and will settle for obese women - if he doesn't kick them naked out of his bed first, and deeply desires women too old to carry his children - but not too old to carry a full bladder.

Most people's standards reflect how highly they perceive themselves because they want lovers and partners who measure up similarly. Your standards tell me that your perception of yourself is likely very low. I believe I gave you advice for how to fix that in your old 10+ page post.

Whether you take any of that advice, or any of this advice, is up to you.

As for your insistence I don't truly desire fat chicks, you're wrong. As I said to another poster on my last post, there are some fatties I find genuinely attractive.

The broad I sent home after sex (canceling our sleepover plans), in addition to being unbearable to be around, she wasn't even attractive (even if she was thin, she'd be ugly)

I like large backsides and large chests (which is one reason I'm into certain fat chicks).

Is a fat chick (even one I'm attracted to) my first choice? I'd say not. Then again, plenty of broads will settle for a man who isn't her first choice as long as he's enjoyable to be around. That's why I say if she's fat, she better at least be enjoyable to be around.

As for the first dates where the woman ended up naked in bed with me, only for me to decline sex, the problem wasn't that I found her ugly. The problem was my pregnancy phobia. One was 21; one was 38 (38 is still dangerously fertile). Therefore, your question about "what if a woman was into me until seeing me naked" is moot.

As for fetishes, they're called fetishes because most of the population doesn't share any given fetish. But that doesn't make a fetish wrong. In addition to being mild as far as fetishes go, my fetish is even mild as far as pee fetishes go (As I don't want to give/receive golden showers, nor do I want to drink pee. All I want to do is watch her pee)

At the end of the day, the fact of the matter is: Watching a woman pee is every bit as enjoyable as sex to me, therefore making it pointless to get involved with a woman who won't let me watch.

Your claim that I was desperate was totally true once upon a time (and I fully admit my desperation drove broads away in my younger days). At my current age, however, between my fallback plan for getting laid, as well as my lower sex drive, I really am not desperate anymore. Yet I still have bad luck.

As for getting with married broads, searching Craigslist for sex, settling for fatties and/or broads I'm not attracted to, paying for sex, etc...I've done all of that because I have a hard time getting sex any other way.

Do you really think I wanted to post Craigslist ads looking for a woman when I was in college, when I had access to foxes galore at school? Of course not. I went the Craigslist route because broads at school largely didn't want me (OK, my pregnancy phobia played a role too...but when virtually no broad at school wanted me, the fact I might have kicked her out of bed anyway...because I'd be afraid to get her pregnant...is moot)

As @SW15 has said before, if a college student relies on tech methods to get laid/dates, that's a sign he has a hard time attracting a female classmate.

 

[GoodMan32]

That is up to you. Do you think you've hit your ceiling and can't improve? We're not here to tell you what you should do with your life. But if you want advice on how to improve, that's the best way to use this forum.

According to @SW15, I've hit somewhat of a ceiling for the foreseeable future. He says I've aged out of boytoy territory (thus rendering me worthless to cougars), yet haven't aged into the age range most 45-60s broads prefer.

 

[Vanderdonck]

According to @SW15, I've hit somewhat of a ceiling for the foreseeable future. He says I've aged out of boytoy territory (thus rendering me worthless to cougars), yet haven't aged into the age range most 45-60s broads prefer.

And according to you?

 

[BaronOfHair]

Yeah, I'm a little disappointed that he seems more fixated on presenting an argument justifying his actions than understanding the root of his problems


You are still justifying bad behavior here, and I don't know why

Let's give OP credit where it's due: He's in touch with the spirit of the era in which we currently exist, more so than those of us who operate under an "Identify your goal, then pursue that goal" mindset are

One finds this iron determination to rationalize self-defeating behavior everywhere from university campuses(Where students and even staff grouse over just how anxious and depressed they are, yet demand "safe spaces", where they never hear words or thoughts they might find objectionable)to political parties: Getting one's clock cleaned during an election no longer prompts self-reflection/asking oneself: "What tactics and strategies do we need to leave in the past, and which do we need to adopt, if we're to start succeeding again?", but a DOUBLING down on all the nonsense that undercut your success to begin with

 

[BPH]

As for your insistence I don't truly desire fat chicks, you're wrong. As I said to another poster on my last post, there are some fatties I find genuinely attractive.

The broad I sent home after sex (canceling our sleepover plans), in addition to being unbearable to be around, she wasn't even attractive (even if she was thin, she'd be ugly)

I like large backsides and large chests (which is one reason I'm into certain fat chicks).

Is a fat chick (even one I'm attracted to) my first choice? I'd say not. Then again, plenty of broads will settle for a man who isn't her first choice as long as he's enjoyable to be around. That's why I say if she's fat, she better at least be enjoyable to be around.

As for the first dates where the woman ended up naked in bed with me, only for me to decline sex, the problem wasn't that I found her ugly. The problem was my pregnancy phobia. One was 21; one was 38 (38 is still dangerously fertile). Therefore, your question about "what if a woman was into me until seeing me naked" is moot.

As for fetishes, they're called fetishes because most of the population doesn't share any given fetish. But that doesn't make a fetish wrong. In addition to being mild as far as fetishes go, my fetish is even mild as far as pee fetishes go (As I don't want to give/receive golden showers, nor do I want to drink pee. All I want to do is watch her pee)

At the end of the day, the fact of the matter is: Watching a woman pee is every bit as enjoyable as sex to me, therefore making it pointless to get involved with a woman who won't let me watch.

Your claim that I was desperate was totally true once upon a time (and I fully admit my desperation drove broads away in my younger days). At my current age, however, between my fallback plan for getting laid, as well as my lower sex drive, I really am not desperate anymore. Yet I still have bad luck.

As for getting with married broads, searching Craigslist for sex, settling for fatties and/or broads I'm not attracted to, paying for sex, etc...I've done all of that because I have a hard time getting sex any other way.

Do you really think I wanted to post Craigslist ads looking for a woman when I was in college, when I had access to foxes galore at school? Of course not. I went the Craigslist route because broads at school largely didn't want me (OK, my pregnancy phobia played a role too...but when virtually no broad at school wanted me, the fact I might have kicked her out of bed anyway...because I'd be afraid to get her pregnant...is moot)

As @SW15 has said before, if a college student relies on tech methods to get laid/dates, that's a sign he has a hard time attracting a female classmate.

I don't think anybody is going to be able to help you, including myself.

You seem more intent on arguing your points and justifying your actions, rather than looking at how women are treating you and addressing the problems that you have control over.

This will likely result in another multi-page conversation with multiple people telling you the same thing with you continuing the discussion just for the sake of keeping it going, without taking any real action on the solutions you've been given.

Good luck to those of you willing to entertain this, again.

 

[GoodMan32]

The fact that you constantly call women "broads" likely tells a lot about why it doesn't happen.

Because you actually hate women.

Broad is merely an outdated slang term for woman.

On the other hand, a lot of posters call a woman a plate (which is flat-out objectifying)

 

[GoodMan32]

And according to you?

I'm more optimistic there are 45-60s broads willing to get with a man my age (especially toward the lower end of that age range)

As for general improvement, I'm open to learning (for example) seduction methods.

Certain things (like my mental illnesses) are beyond curing, however.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Maybe part of your issue is you seem to have an Archie Bunker schtict going; probably would help to stop calling them broads like it’s 1972 - or is that just a part you’re playing here as an alter ego?

 

[Divorced w 3]

On the other hand, a lot of posters call a woman a plate (which is flat-out objectifying)

most of them aren’t spinning any either

 

[GoodMan32]

Maybe part of your issue is you seem to have an Archie Bunker schtict going; probably would help to stop calling them broads like it’s 1972 - or is that just a part you’re playing here as an alter ego?

Archie Bunker

Speaking of 1972, that's a perfect birth year for a woman (see, I said woman)

In all seriousness, I'm aware the typical woman doesn't appreciate being called a broad. I've never directly called a woman I'm into a broad.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Archie Bunker

Speaking of 1972, that's a perfect birth year for a woman (see, I said woman)

In all seriousness, I'm aware the typical woman doesn't appreciate being called a broad. I've never directly called a woman I'm into a broad.

Doesn’t mean you aren’t intimating it with your verbal and non verbal communication. Look I’m just giving you feedback you requested - there’s another poster on here that is posting threads for attention but has no real intention to heed any of the advice. Just suggesting you think carefully and not be that guy if you want folks to keep giving you ideas. You seem to be straddling the line right now based on other commentary in this and other threads.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

OP, maybe you should play this song and tell them this is how you feel about them when they are with you...

Maybe tell her she is a rebound so you caught her off the backboard.

 

[corrector]

I don't think anybody is going to be able to help you, including myself.

You seem more intent on arguing your points and justifying your actions, rather than looking at how women are treating you and addressing the problems that you have control over.

This will likely result in another multi-page conversation with multiple people telling you the same thing with you continuing the discussion just for the sake of keeping it going, without taking any real action on the solutions you've been given.

Good luck to those of you willing to entertain this, again.

Dude, he said he has a fallback plan.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I don't think anybody is going to be able to help you, including myself.

You seem more intent on arguing your points and justifying your actions, rather than looking at how women are treating you and addressing the problems that you have control over.

This will likely result in another multi-page conversation with multiple people telling you the same thing with you continuing the discussion just for the sake of keeping it going, without taking any real action on the solutions you've been given.

Good luck to those of you willing to entertain this, again.

If this isn’t the pot calling the fvcking kettle black

 

[BackInTheGame78]

There's an active thread on here about how all it takes is one slip for a woman to "next" a man. The thread I'm starting right now is similar, only geared specifically to my circumstances.

My problem with "nexting" is how often (and how quickly) it happens.

Of the 9 free sex partners I've had, 8 were one night stands.

I want continued sex; not a one night stand.

And I've lost count of how many broads nexted me before sex even happened (The fact there's a high chance I'd chicken out anyway if a fertile broad offered me sex is beside the point. The point is: In many instances, I never even have the opportunity to find out whether I would have chickened out)

My track record begs the question: What incentive do I have to pursue broads if, based on my track record, I'm highly unlikely to get anything more than a one night stand (at most)?

My circumstances are a double whammy: In addition to a high rejection rate, I rarely get what I want even in the instances where I initially succeed in securing her interest.

If I had a high rejection rate, but at least had a decent track record of getting continued sex in the cases where I "succeed" (succeed as in "don't get insta-rejected"), I might be more motivated to pursue broads.

Don't get me wrong; I'd like to pursue more. I just sometimes have a hard time seeing the point.

Because you haven't even come anywhere close to putting in enough time on task with women to expect great results with virtually no effort.

You are basically at your floor right now without even ever having done any amount of work that would make you reasonably expect that you would achieve better results than you have prior.

Essentially you have just given up. And that's fine. But stop acting like there is no room for improvement and start admitting that you just aren't willing to put any amount of work to become better.

If you choose to lie to yourself then fine. But please stop lying to us. We see through it.

 

[Gamisch]

Tom Brady got nexted after a long-term relationship. That's hardly the same as getting nexted in the early phases.

Johnny Depp got nexted because he got with a much younger woman. He should have known there was no way a woman that much younger would stay with him.

My idea of a winning trophy at the end of the finish line: A sexy 45-53 year old cougar, eager to drop her panties for me (Yeah, I know I've said my age preference extends all the way to 60s...and it does...but 45-53 is my absolute favorite)

I get what you mean about working on myself too. For example, I take pride in my appearance. And I've done some more traveling than usual this autumn (for personal enrichment)

Never two scenarios will be identical. Gotta look at with a helicopter view. I just point out that EVERY man has to deal with rejection one way or another.

What this really is about is you are far removed from the understanding what female energy is all about. How women project their energy towards you is something YOU gotta (try to) control.

I told you before that your "endgoal" is CAP. I sleep with women between ages 18 and 50 but ofcourse imma prefer them younger. You see , eve tho your preferences are and standards are low you still can't pull....think about that. Might as well take two steps back, see the bigger picture and return with a fresh, healthy state of mind.

 

[BPH]

If this isn’t the pot calling the fvcking kettle black

Are you gonna become another Gamisch/Baron every time I post?

The obvious difference between me and this guy is I didn't ask for financial advice.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Are you gonna become another Gamisch/Baron every time I post?

The obvious difference between me and this guy is I didn't ask for financial advice.

I had nothing to say to you until you tried to give someone advice you couldn’t ever seem to employ yourself ; it’s a men’s improvement board and if you’re going to post publicly be ready to get checked on your bs

 

[corrector]

If you have a fat naked woman in your bed, and you don't want her, how did you manage to get rid of her? I can't imagine there would be a nice way of doing that.

 

[BPH]

I had nothing to say to you until you tried to give someone advice you couldn’t ever seem to employ yourself ; it’s a men’s improvement board and if you’re going to post publicly be ready to get checked on your bs

What BS?

This is a guy asking how to regularly get laid. I regularly get laid, therefore I provided my advice.

He did NOT ask for financial advice to move out of his parents', nor did I, though a handful of you seem intent on providing it. I recognize my strengths and weaknesses, but you seem to dismiss all my strengths because of one weakness.

EDIT: I try to respond to threads of people asking for advice that I believe myself to be in a position to give during my free time at work, usually threads that initially don't have a lot of attention since I don't care to theorycraft about the dating world like a lot of the posts by the regulars here look to do.

If my advice about ONE area of life isn't good enough for you because I don't have ALL areas of my life sorted out to your standards is your problem, not mine.