More than a one night stand

[GoodMan32]

There's an active thread on here about how all it takes is one slip for a woman to "next" a man. The thread I'm starting right now is similar, only geared specifically to my circumstances.

My problem with "nexting" is how often (and how quickly) it happens.

Of the 9 free sex partners I've had, 8 were one night stands.

I want continued sex; not a one night stand.

And I've lost count of how many broads nexted me before sex even happened (The fact there's a high chance I'd chicken out anyway if a fertile broad offered me sex is beside the point. The point is: In many instances, I never even have the opportunity to find out whether I would have chickened out)

My track record begs the question: What incentive do I have to pursue broads if, based on my track record, I'm highly unlikely to get anything more than a one night stand (at most)?

My circumstances are a double whammy: In addition to a high rejection rate, I rarely get what I want even in the instances where I initially succeed in securing her interest.

If I had a high rejection rate, but at least had a decent track record of getting continued sex in the cases where I "succeed" (succeed as in "don't get insta-rejected"), I might be more motivated to pursue broads.

Don't get me wrong; I'd like to pursue more. I just sometimes have a hard time seeing the point.

 

[SW15]

Men who put up big notch counts have many one night stands.

One night stands are not much of an issue for men with a Thrill of the Hunt orientation, men with strong game (usually looks, but some combination of looks, money, status, and personality), and men with certain lifestyle factors.

You are more motivated by extended interactions and I think a lot of men are that way. Constant hunting for pussie is a difficult lifestyle.

Have you done any self reflection to figure out why you are only getting sex once in an interaction when you want interactions with sex more than once?

 

[GoodMan32]

As for self-reflection on why I didn't get continued sex with any of my 6 partners in college, there are a number of reasons.

-I was new to sex (so obviously wasn't very good yet)

-Some of my partners were cheating on a boyfriend/husband. That type of thing typically doesn't lead to extended sex.

-In one instance, she was going to sleep over, yet I nexted her before we had a chance to sleep (because after the sex, I realized I wasn't really into her)

As for the 3 free partners I've had post-college:

-1 was married. She was the steadiest sex I've ever had (monthlong affair). But as I said above, affairs tend to be short-lived (even if this specific affair wasn't as short as the ones I had in college, 1 month is still pretty short). The fact she lived a 40 minute drive away from me probably played a role too.

-There was one I nexted. I wasn't even attracted to her.

-Then as for the last instance of free sex, I'm pretty sure there would have been continued sex if it weren't for the fact she would have lost her job if she got caught banging me (No, we didn't work together. But I knew her through her work. You and @corrector know some more details about how exactly I met her)

All in all, I'd be down for one night stands too I suppose...if I got one night stands more often than I do. Whether it be continued sex with one woman or one night stands with many broads, the fact of the matter is I want free sex more often than I get free sex.

 

[Stuffnu]

Most girls except for the town bicycles will experience regret after a one night stand.
This happens to me from time to time because I break down there defenses with seduction. They wake up the next day suffering from slut syndrome, put up a wall and move on. That’s the tradeoff.

If you prefer repetitiveness, you will have to resist the urge of doing it too soon. Girl are guided by feelings and you have to build up the rapport. They have to feel comfortable with you and with themselves throughout the whole process, if they start feeling dirty and slutty, they‘ll be gone to wipe the slate clean.

 

[BPH]

I'll start by addressing your points before I give my full opinion.

-I was new to sex (so obviously wasn't very good yet)

Getting better comes with time and experience, but there are other resources. Por* is unironically a good way to learn. Certain YouTubers like Stirling Cooper, and even some amateur performers will make instructional content (such as how to eat pu**y). If you want to skip some of the learning curve I'd suggest spending some time checking those out.

-Some of my partners were cheating on a boyfriend/husband. That type of thing typically doesn't lead to extended sex.

Husband? Boyfriend is one thing, but that's a minefield I wouldn't suggest exploring...I've only knowingly been the guy a girl cheated with once, and I didn't feel great about it afterwards.

-In one instance, she was going to sleep over, yet I nexted her before we had a chance to sleep (because after the sex, I realized I wasn't really into her)

Jesus dude...you sent a girl home AFTER she f***ed you, when she was planning to stay over, because you didn't like her enough? Do you think there's a reason WHY these girls don't see you again? Because I do.

-1 was married. She was the steadiest sex I've ever had (monthlong affair). But as I said above, affairs tend to be short-lived (even if this specific affair wasn't as short as the ones I had in college, 1 month is still pretty short). The fact she lived a 40 minute drive away from me probably played a role too.

Ignoring the fact that one month is the longest you've been able to retain a woman, this is f***ed up man. You drove 40 minutes to regularly bang a married woman...you're kind of a piece of s*** man.

-There was one I nexted. I wasn't even attracted to her.

If you weren't attracted to this girl, why next her? Why even mention her? I'd assume you wouldn't have made plans with somebody you're not interested in, so I'm wondering why you made and cancelled them instead.

-Then as for the last instance of free sex, I'm pretty sure there would have been continued sex if it weren't for the fact she would have lost her job if she got caught banging me (No, we didn't work together. But I knew her through her work. You and @corrector know some more details about how exactly I met her)

There's not enough context here to have an opinion, but when you say "free sex", does that mean you're paying for sex?

First thing's first, my personal opinion of you is that you're kind of a piece of s***. Having been on the receiving end of cheating (and having been on the giving end once) it is one of the worst feelings. The fact that you willingly engaged with multiple "taken" women, including one who was married leads me to believe you have low morals and a mindset of "take what you can get".

To answer your question; are you somebody who women would want to keep seeing?

Are you charming, are you attractive, are you good in bed, are you not weird or clingy? I know for a fact that you are not, on account of your thread you made some time ago that had 10+ pages about your issues and fetishes.

So instead of looking at what might be these women's problems, look at your own. Do YOU think you deserve regular sex with these women? Or are they ending up drunk in bed with you as a rebound where you're not even giving them the decency to stay overnight after giving you the goods?

Look in the mirror. Would YOU want you?

 

[GoodMan32]

I'll start by addressing your points before I give my full opinion.



Getting better comes with time and experience, but there are other resources. Por* is unironically a good way to learn. Certain YouTubers like Stirling Cooper, and even some amateur performers will make instructional content (such as how to eat pu**y). If you want to skip some of the learning curve I'd suggest spending some time checking those out.



Husband? Boyfriend is one thing, but that's a minefield I wouldn't suggest exploring...I've only knowingly been the guy a girl cheated with once, and I didn't feel great about it afterwards.



Jesus dude...you sent a girl home AFTER she f***ed you, when she was planning to stay over, because you didn't like her enough? Do you think there's a reason WHY these girls don't see you again? Because I do.



Ignoring the fact that one month is the longest you've been able to retain a woman, this is f***ed up man. You drove 40 minutes to regularly bang a married woman...you're kind of a piece of s*** man.



If you weren't attracted to this girl, why next her? Why even mention her? I'd assume you wouldn't have made plans with somebody you're not interested in, so I'm wondering why you made and cancelled them instead.



There's not enough context here to have an opinion, but when you say "free sex", does that mean you're paying for sex?

First thing's first, my personal opinion of you is that you're kind of a piece of s***. Having been on the receiving end of cheating (and having been on the giving end once) it is one of the worst feelings. The fact that you willingly engaged with multiple "taken" women, including one who was married leads me to believe you have low morals and a mindset of "take what you can get".

To answer your question; are you somebody who women would want to keep seeing?

Are you charming, are you attractive, are you good in bed, are you not weird or clingy? I know for a fact that you are not, on account of your thread you made some time ago that had 10+ pages about your issues and fetishes.

So instead of looking at what might be these women's problems, look at your own. Do YOU think you deserve regular sex with these women? Or are they ending up drunk in bed with you as a rebound where you're not even giving them the decency to stay overnight after giving you the goods?

Look in the mirror. Would YOU want you?

I'm going to address your questions.

As for the married broads:

The broad I lost my v-card to was in the process of ending her marriage (so I suppose it's questionable whether she counted as a married woman)

The 2nd broad I had sex with, funny story. I met her on Craigslist. When she got to my apartment, the very first thing she said was that she was going to call her husband. I was terrified to hear that (she never mentioned a husband when we chatted on Craigslist). I asked why she was calling her husband. She said he's aware (and is ok with the fact) she beds younger men she meets online; she's only calling him to let him know she made it into my place safely (because there are obvious risks that come with a woman going into the places of Craigslist dudes). Since she had her husband's blessing, it's questionable as to whether that counted as adultery.

Then at 23, I had the monthlong affair with a married woman. Her husband hadn't banged her in 2 and a half years; he was really in no position to complain if he were to find out. I didn't drive 40 minutes to her by the way; she drove 40 minutes to me.

As for the broad I sent home (when she was initially going to sleep over), my biggest error (in retrospect) was inviting her to sleep over before I had even met her in person.

After the sex, I didn't send her home right away. I gave it about an hour. At that point, it became clear I couldn't bear spending the night with her. She was probably 250 pounds (and was unbearable to be around). You'd find her unbearable too. Whether she wanted to see me again is beside the point; I dumped her (not vice versa)

There was a YouTube vid on this forum recently about broads running into a problem where they can't get a guy to commit if she goes for men above her on the looks scale. As the narrator of the vid said "Because these men are out of your league. And they don't truly want you. That's why they don't commit"

As for the other one I nexted, she also was fat, ugly, and unbearable to be around. She started chatting with me while catching a ride on public transportation. Then she basically followed me home and got naked. That's the only reason I banged her.

To answer your question about why I say "free sex," the vast majority of the sex I've had was paid. This discussion is only about the free sex I've had.

To answer your closing question, I would want me.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

To answer your closing question, I would want me.

So, you're also a masochist? Interesting. Not.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Then be a man who is worthy of a woman wanting to see you again after they got a taste of what you had to offer.

 

[BPH]

The broad I lost my v-card to was in the process of ending her marriage (so I suppose it's questionable whether she counted as a married woman)

First of all, not to get too hung up on semantics, but do you realize how often to refer to women as "broads"? I know sometimes I will use the term "plate" to identify that I'm not seriously seeing this woman, but "broad" is often derogatory, and you use it often. Ever considered that part of you detests women or wants to see yourself above them?

As for the actual adultery, women (and people, by extension) will often say what you want to hear to get what they want. The important part of this equation is the husband - HE may not want a divorce or even know he's being cheated on. Imagine him finding out. People die doing stuff like this dude...

The 2nd broad I had sex with, funny story. I met her on Craigslist. When she got to my apartment, the very first thing she said was that she was going to call her husband. I was terrified to hear that (she never mentioned a husband when we chatted on Craigslist). I asked why she was calling her husband. She said he's aware (and is ok with the fact) she beds younger men she meets online; she's only calling him to let him know she made it into my place safely (because there are obvious risks that come with a woman going into the places of Craigslist dudes). Since she had her husband's blessing, it's questionable as to whether that counted as adultery.

Ok, so you're meeting women from Craiglist, of all places, and a married one with a cuck husband at that...you sure know how to pick em...

Then at 23, I had the monthlong affair with a married woman. Her husband hadn't banged her in 2 and a half years; he was really in no position to complain if he were to find out. I didn't drive 40 minutes to her by the way; she drove 40 minutes to me.

Again, as I mentioned above, this really doesn't justify your role in this. You don't know whether she's lying, what his reason may be if this is true, and above all else they're still married. "He's in no position to complain" is a wild thing to say, you're a bit of a piece of sh** dude.

After the sex, I didn't send her home right away. I gave it about an hour. At that point, it became clear I couldn't bear spending the night with her. She was probably 250 pounds (and was unbearable to be around). You'd find her unbearable too. Whether she wanted to see me again is beside the point; I dumped her (not vice versa)

Are you a chubby chaser? Everybody has their preferences, but if you're not, this goes to show what lengths you'll go to for sex out of desperation rather than maintaining any standards. "Take what you can get" mentality, as mentioned before.

There was a YouTube vid on this forum recently about broads running into a problem where they can't get a guy to commit if she goes for men above her on the looks scale. As the narrator of the vid said "Because these men are out of your league. And they don't truly want you. That's why they don't commit"

I don't know what this has to do with anything but I'll address the point anyway. I'm not sure what video you're mentioning but this has little truth to it; I know plenty of attractive guys that settle for very unattractive women all the time. Why that is, I do not know...maybe because they're easy, maybe because they feel more attractive in the relationship and therefore have more confidence that they'll supplicate, I don't know. You yourself are a perfect example of this statement being incorrect - your entire post is about the women you're sleeping with NOT committing to more than a one-night stand. YOU are who they don't truly want in this situation.

As for the other one I nexted, she also was fat, ugly, and unbearable to be around. She started chatting with me while catching a ride on public transportation. Then she basically followed me home and got naked. That's the only reason I banged her.

Ahh so you're incapable of saying "no" or having standards, what a victim you are.

To answer your closing question, I would want me.

If you're not going to be honest with yourself, there's no point to this thread because you won't do anything differently and will instead see yourself as a victim of your environment and choices rather than somebody who is in control of those things.

You just told me that most of your sex has been paid for, that you'll willingly sleep with multiple married women multiple times, that you will sleep with obese women, that you've resorted to Craigslist to find partners, and that you are incapable of having any standards with who you reject - all in addition to your insatiable desire to exercise strange fetishes rather than maintain a normal relationship.

This is not a man that women would find attractive.

You have no standards, no morals, are desperate, and even when you get what you want you seem ungrateful and judgemental along with having no backbone.

 

[Gamisch]

There's an active thread on here about how all it takes is one slip for a woman to "next" a man. The thread I'm starting right now is similar, only geared specifically to my circumstances.

My problem with "nexting" is how often (and how quickly) it happens.

Of the 9 free sex partners I've had, 8 were one night stands.

I want continued sex; not a one night stand.

And I've lost count of how many broads nexted me before sex even happened (The fact there's a high chance I'd chicken out anyway if a fertile broad offered me sex is beside the point. The point is: In many instances, I never even have the opportunity to find out whether I would have chickened out)

My track record begs the question: What incentive do I have to pursue broads if, based on my track record, I'm highly unlikely to get anything more than a one night stand (at most)?

My circumstances are a double whammy: In addition to a high rejection rate, I rarely get what I want even in the instances where I initially succeed in securing her interest.

If I had a high rejection rate, but at least had a decent track record of getting continued sex in the cases where I "succeed" (succeed as in "don't get insta-rejected"), I might be more motivated to pursue broads.

Don't get me wrong; I'd like to pursue more. I just sometimes have a hard time seeing the point.

Even Tom Brady, Johnny Depp and many more HVM got "nexted ".

I am sorry but that's just part of the game. Women are fickle, and sex isn't as important to them as we men like to believe. I say this because this sob-ish mindset is something you'll carry with you like a dark comic cloud that follows you.

As mentioned before, EVERY DAY you should b working on improving yourself. Because (imo) it's about racking up successes..the more personal victories ,the better you'll feel, the less you care about female validation and this the more you will attract them! Mind you, might be small successes as " 7 days streak inthe gym" or " started with that business plan ". Whatever, its should NEVER be about women particularly . They ate a BYPRODUCT.

While on this journey many women will come and go. Never forget women wait at the finish line.

What is your definition of "the finish line"? Of a win? What trophy do you chase?

 

[GoodMan32]

Then be a man who is worthy of a woman wanting to see you again after they got a taste of what you had to offer.

I was that man with the married woman back when I was 23 (the fact she drove 40 minutes for repeated sex with me)

 

[GoodMan32]

First of all, not to get too hung up on semantics, but do you realize how often to refer to women as "broads"? I know sometimes I will use the term "plate" to identify that I'm not seriously seeing this woman, but "broad" is often derogatory, and you use it often. Ever considered that part of you detests women or wants to see yourself above them?

As for the actual adultery, women (and people, by extension) will often say what you want to hear to get what they want. The important part of this equation is the husband - HE may not want a divorce or even know he's being cheated on. Imagine him finding out. People die doing stuff like this dude...



Ok, so you're meeting women from Craiglist, of all places, and a married one with a cuck husband at that...you sure know how to pick em...



Again, as I mentioned above, this really doesn't justify your role in this. You don't know whether she's lying, what his reason may be if this is true, and above all else they're still married. "He's in no position to complain" is a wild thing to say, you're a bit of a piece of sh** dude.



Are you a chubby chaser? Everybody has their preferences, but if you're not, this goes to show what lengths you'll go to for sex out of desperation rather than maintaining any standards. "Take what you can get" mentality, as mentioned before.



I don't know what this has to do with anything but I'll address the point anyway. I'm not sure what video you're mentioning but this has little truth to it; I know plenty of attractive guys that settle for very unattractive women all the time. Why that is, I do not know...maybe because they're easy, maybe because they feel more attractive in the relationship and therefore have more confidence that they'll supplicate, I don't know. You yourself are a perfect example of this statement being incorrect - your entire post is about the women you're sleeping with NOT committing to more than a one-night stand. YOU are who they don't truly want in this situation.



Ahh so you're incapable of saying "no" or having standards, what a victim you are.



If you're not going to be honest with yourself, there's no point to this thread because you won't do anything differently and will instead see yourself as a victim of your environment and choices rather than somebody who is in control of those things.

You just told me that most of your sex has been paid for, that you'll willingly sleep with multiple married women multiple times, that you will sleep with obese women, that you've resorted to Craigslist to find partners, and that you are incapable of having any standards with who you reject - all in addition to your insatiable desire to exercise strange fetishes rather than maintain a normal relationship.

This is not a man that women would find attractive.

You have no standards, no morals, are desperate, and even when you get what you want you seem ungrateful and judgemental along with having no backbone.

I'm aware I use the word broad pretty often. I like the way that word sounds; simple as that.

As for the woman (yeah, I said woman) I lost my v-card to, she was in the military and was already on her 2nd marriage (at age 22). It's common for soldiers to get phony marriages simply because they get more benefits that way. The fact she was ending her 2nd marriage at such a young age tells me her marriages were sham marriages.

She could have gotten court martialed if her higher ups found out about our sex. But since I'm not mentioning her name (and since this story took place almost 13 years ago), I don't see the harm in sharing these details (to give you some context)

Yeah, I heavily relied on Craigslist to get free sex in my younger days. Craigslist no longer allows us to post hookup ads. Hmm, it's no wonder I hardly ever get free sex anymore.

You're right, I have no idea if the married woman I had the monthlong affair with was telling the truth about her husband withholding sex for 2 and a half years. To give her the benefit of the doubt, if we operate under the assumption her claim was true, that marriage was a pointless marriage. Plus, with how much she enjoyed sex with me, she deserved me. My then-23 year old wood made a fat 45 year old feel young again.

Now's a good time to address your question of whether I'm a chubby chaser: Yes and no.

Being fat isn't a dealbreaker (but it also isn't a requirement). The married woman I had the monthlong affair with was enjoyable to be around. The fattie I sent home (canceling our sleepover plans) wasn't enjoyable to be around. That's what it all boils down to: If you're fat, you better at least be enjoyable to be around.

In many cases, I end up not being what the woman wants (in terms of continued sex). There are some instances, however, where I've nexted a woman after sex. If I have sex with a woman I don't truly want, that's a prime scenario for me to do a nexting.

And in some of the cases where I got nexted, it doesn't necessarily mean there was anything wrong with me; it could simply mean the woman went back to her boyfriend's sausage.

I'm capable of saying no by the way. I've shared stories on the forum about turning down sex (on multiple occassions) when a woman ended up naked in bed with me after a first date.

I wouldn't call my pee fetish strange; it's pretty mild as far as fetishes go.

Your hypothesis that hardly any woman wants me because I'm desperate is incorrect. It's the other way around: I'm desperate because hardly any woman is into me; that's why I've gone to some of the lengths I've gone to get laid.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I was that man with the married woman back when I was 23 (the fact she drove 40 minutes for repeated sex with me)

Dried up old bats can become thirsty too and they tend to overlook mental issues.

 

[GoodMan32]

Even Tom Brady, Johnny Depp and many more HVM got "nexted ".

I am sorry but that's just part of the game. Women are fickle, and sex isn't as important to them as we men like to believe. I say this because this sob-ish mindset is something you'll carry with you like a dark comic cloud that follows you.

As mentioned before, EVERY DAY you should b working on improving yourself. Because (imo) it's about racking up successes..the more personal victories ,the better you'll feel, the less you care about female validation and this the more you will attract them! Mind you, might be small successes as " 7 days streak inthe gym" or " started with that business plan ". Whatever, its should NEVER be about women particularly . They ate a BYPRODUCT.

While on this journey many women will come and go. Never forget women wait at the finish line.

What is your definition of "the finish line"? Of a win? What trophy do you chase?

Tom Brady got nexted after a long-term relationship. That's hardly the same as getting nexted in the early phases.

Johnny Depp got nexted because he got with a much younger woman. He should have known there was no way a woman that much younger would stay with him.

My idea of a winning trophy at the end of the finish line: A sexy 45-53 year old cougar, eager to drop her panties for me (Yeah, I know I've said my age preference extends all the way to 60s...and it does...but 45-53 is my absolute favorite)

I get what you mean about working on myself too. For example, I take pride in my appearance. And I've done some more traveling than usual this autumn (for personal enrichment)

 

[BaronOfHair]

You don't have a GF who leaves a halo hanging from the corner of your four post bed

The perils of you ending up with a one night stand are thus miniscule. Rejoice

 

[Clockwerk50]

If you're not going to be honest with yourself, there's no point to this thread because you won't do anything differently and will instead see yourself as a victim of your environment and choices rather than somebody who is in control of those things.

He not only ignored the most important paragraph of your post, but he also generally fails to understand the basic principles of gender dynamics, despite many people explaining them to him. He just wrote a lengthy post about his past conquests (again!) like everyone cares, not knowing all those relationships opperate under Briffault's law (gender dynamics!). I wrote this to him on September 24, 2024, and it remains relevant today.

“… Instead, you’ve chosen to ignore it, defend yourself and write lengthy posts about your past relationships, which don’t seem to bring you any benefit. From my perspective, your posts come across as somewhat self-centered, reflecting narcissistic qualities, as you often steer the conversation toward yourself. You are missing the inner voice that should remind you that you’re not only wasting everyone's time, but you are boring everyone else. This is the real reason why women do not like to spend time with you; this deep-rooted selfishness.”

@GoodMan32 Women may not offer you sex because they communicate differently than men (for the 4th time). Additionally, you struggle to step outside of your own perspective to provide focused, individualized attention that caters to their desires and pleasure. This could be due to traits like entitlement, narcissism, insecurity, impatience, selfishness, self-consciousness, sensitivity, self-absorption, and fear.

As per Briffault’s law, “the female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place”. Please start here if you REALLY need to know why you are not having continuous sex.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I was that man with the married woman back when I was 23 (the fact she drove 40 minutes for repeated sex with me)

It's not about a single time, it's about working on being that every time.

Without paying.
Without resorting to fat or ugly women.
Without resorting to only women who are unlikely to reject you for various reasons.