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I know this has been talked about on this forum for a long time, but honestly, I've got better things to do than always be the person in control. It's exhausting thinking of always having to lead her around by the nose. So he what, works all day, busts his behind to make a good living and now he has to come home and try and game his wife into bed? I want a woman that's ready and willing to go at a moment's notice, not someone I have to game into being into me.
HAHAHAHA. LMAO. Oh man. Your posts really crack me up. Has to come home and try to game his wife into bed, hahahahahaha xD
 
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Duty is better than none. At least with duty she cares enough to make an effort. Sexless is the total lack of respect and she figures your not going anywhere.
Haha, well either way is a nightmare, which is what being in a LTR with children sounds like from the guys here (I've got 0 good examples from my own parents' lives with either each other or their 2nd partners either). Basically if you want to have children, you need to choose between three options. Be a sperm donor, be ready to break the relationship up despite the kids, or be ready to commit masculinicide.
 

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Haha, well either way is a nightmare, which is what being in a LTR with children sounds like. Basically if you want to have children, you need to choose between three options. Be a sperm donor, be ready to break the relationship up despite the kids, or be ready to commit masculinicide.
Our entire society is setup for the masculinicide option. They are entitled to stand in your masculine space. All that sexless, duty, nagging etc was a slow process of getting full control.
 

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Our entire society is setup for the masculinicide option. They are entitled to stand in your masculine space. All that sexless, duty, nagging etc was a slow process of getting full control.
They don't act this way before they've got you though, right? Or can you see it there in hindsight?

Do they genuinely think they want to be with you, but then their biology makes them do this - or is it their half-conscious plan all along? I'm taking the experiences from you guys because I've never been in a LTR.
 

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They don't act this way before they've got you though, right? Or can you see it there in hindsight?

Do they genuinely think they want to be with you, but then their biology makes them do this - or is it their half-conscious plan all along? I'm taking the experiences from you guys because I've never been in a LTR.
Its a combination of themselves and the societal programming.

In the old days they would fvck and feed and have favor to her man. Its my belief this is the NATURAL program.
 

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HAHAHAHA. LMAO. Oh man. Your posts really crack me up. Has to come home and try to game his wife into bed, hahahahahaha xD
And that's the point, it's a joke, marriage that is. Relationships are always a power struggle to some degree, at least when you are with a woman who's been around and knows the game. You get a younger girl, maybe at least for a little while you might get to be in charge. At some point though, unless you have all your bases covered, they always go downhill to some degree. Me, I'd rather love em and leave em.
 

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HS... your posts here are A+.

I don't know what's more demeaning and unfulfilling. A relationship with no sex, or with only duty sex?
That's a good question but I'd have to lean towards no sex. Look even if it's only duty sex but she does pretty much what you want? Not optimal by any stretch but at least she's attempting to satisfy him, even if her heart isn't fully in it.
 

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I'm 34 never married and zero desire now or ever previously. So no experience. But what is really super obvious to me is every friend who is either married or been in a LTR living together sex dies. If she is giving occasional boring maintenance sex and continually using you as emotional tampon I wonder what would happen if you refuse to listen to her? After all she has a need for emotional outlet you have a need for sex. She's having her needs fulfilled but not you. And it needs to be at least OK sex not just lie down like dead person sex.
But that's where the relationship governor is taken off for her by modern society. If the man doesn't want to put a good effort into the relationship, if he has anything, he stands to lose quite a bit. A good portion of your resources, access to your kids, I could go on but you get it.

If she doesn't want to put anything into the relationship, it doesn't matter. She walks away, takes him to the cleaner's, takes the kids and is off riding the neighbor's c*ck next week.

This is the imbalance that is killing LTRs and marriages. What man really wants to put any sort of concerted effort into a serious relationship when he already starts out of the gate hamstrung? But women complain there are no good men and the crazy part is that they are responsible for the exact lack of quality men that they complain about.

I honestly should have learned the first time around in marriage, it's a losing game, the deck is stacked against you. The saddest part is, at this point, I'd kill for regular maintenance sex.
 

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But that's where the relationship governor is taken off for her by modern society. If the man doesn't want to put a good effort into the relationship, if he has anything, he stands to lose quite a bit. A good portion of your resources, access to your kids, I could go on but you get it.

If she doesn't want to put anything into the relationship, it doesn't matter. She walks away, takes him to the cleaner's, takes the kids and is off riding the neighbor's c*ck next week.

This is the imbalance that is killing LTRs and marriages. What man really wants to put any sort of concerted effort into a serious relationship when he already starts out of the gate hamstrung? But women complain there are no good men and the crazy part is that they are responsible for the exact lack of quality men that they complain about.

I honestly should have learned the first time around in marriage, it's a losing game, the deck is stacked against you. The saddest part is, at this point, I'd kill for regular maintenance sex.
Was right there with you 10y + with her
1+ yeah without sex
I told her it was not working with me anymore ( hard for me because i wont see our 2 kids as often) i took the naggin, resentment and bitchyness for way too long wihout saying a word. Then in the space of a few week it all exploded in her face.
Here in Canada laws are not as hard. Now ill be in even better financial situation than before because now she cant have all of it and dont have a word to say about it

Im in great shape and in my bias opinion good looking so i im welcoming whats to come.
 

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New here looking for some thoughts on the topic of married sex life.

Wife and I have been married for 5 years, together 10. Throughout the courtship, I possessed what I think was an alpha mentality. High status job, unintentional amused mastery, etc.

To make a long story short, the sex was always enthusiastic and plenty. But even though we have 2 kids today, the sex today is more less obligatory duty sex, not to mention I no longer have the high status job. That would be bad in and of itself, but what makes it even worse is that she got into the 50 Shades of Grey trilogy one day out of the blue just to "see what the craze was all about," and as "something to do."

She devoured all 3 books within a week and a half, and even bought one of the books on her birthday (I know this because we share an Amazon account). I also noticed that she has the music from the movie downloaded on her iPod.

When I asked her about it, she claimed it was just the "story" she was following, and that she simply liked the music. She even claimed to have "skipped over the sex scences" because to her, they were "unrealistic."

I have a hard time believing this since she seems so uninterested in sex, or even discussing the topic, with me. Yet she'll blaze through thousands of pages about salacious sex acts. I'd be remiss if I didn't add that she watched the movie Magic Mike one day when I wasn't home as well.

Now I know some might say it's no big deal, or that I should use it to my benefit, but I argue that even if I do that, it doesn't change the fact that she's not into sex with me, and even if she were, is she not thinking about another man?

I know this sounds incredibly beta, and maybe it is. It's just something that's really been bothering me.
I have a fantastic sex life with married women. They do the propositioning which makes me confused as to why husband is cuucked and cut off.

My suspicion is the amount of low testosterone and beta.
 

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I have a voice recorder. And I'll definately be taking this step in the future. Its war but most people don't know it and soldiers do whatever it takes to win. Top man
Just need to think with your big head, not your smaller one any you'll be fine.
 

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A married man shouldn't ever go without sex. If the wife isnt giving it to him, there are plenty of other places to get it.
 
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