LOST theories

[KarmaSutra]

locke was up in jacob's house when hurley passed by. lots of talking and whispers going on.. hurley saw old jacob rocking back and forth, and then bam! theres locke up at the window and hurley's running.
were they talking about how locke could "help" jacob?

Interesting observation. Could it have been Richard?

 

[penkitten]

Interesting observation. Could it have been Richard?

perhaps.... but it will eat me up until i can figure it out.
the wonderful thing about lost, is that it never goes down hill... it always amazes me with twists and turns that i would not have thought about until it happens.

 

[KarmaSutra]

The more I subdivide the possibilities the more I see it as Richard being the one with Locke in Jacobs cabin. Richard has a very deep connection to Locke and has lost his faith in Ben.

Ooh, it could be Mikhael back on The Island with Jacob and Locke? Now Hurley has seen him too. . .

 

[penkitten]

some answers here:

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/krist...ea-19b1-4e42-ae78-d57998c34318&sid=fd-kristin

it is now jacks father in the house with jacob.
hurley only heard jungle whispers.

 

[KarmaSutra]

I don't buy it. I think if he were even allowed to say who it was in Jacobs cabin he would have lied about it.

Lindeloff and Abrams are too smart for this.

 

[kickureface]

hurley never knew about jacob, and i highly doubt locke would tell him about much of his experiences.
jacob seems to be jacks father. look closely again, looks just like him in the chair and he's wearing the infamous white sneakers with his suit . if not, that certainly is jack's father and jacob may be invisible. why they're there i don't know, but why was locke's father on the island. as for the eye, i think it's locke's. it isn't weird to think that he would be welcome at jacob's house.
i agree with the 4toe thing. wtf is it...
i dont know wtf the whispers were, but the first few times the whispers came the others soon followed. this time, they seem to randomly come about and without ben ordering to do anything with hurley, i figure they came from jacob the weirdo.

richard never seen jacob, as i recall, nor met him. only ben has any contact with him.

we don't know that people not in the 6 were murdered. clearly there has been a split in the island and so far we know jack+kate+hurley are back. jack and kate planned to be rescued, and hugo is just a weirdo who somehow got back. i think that the "secret" they're keeping is that there are more survivors on the island and that the 6 made a pact to say nothing about it. hence, interrogators after hurley for information. this seems to follow with the s3 finale, when jack doesn't want to "lie anymore."

anyways, first scene-immediately thought of hurley about to plow into that, but not with a car!

one thing i want to know: why are the seasons 16 now, and this season 8?!
my favorite show. <3. it's either this or everybody loves raymond.

 

[KarmaSutra]

hurley never knew about jacob, and i highly doubt locke would tell him about much of his experiences.
jacob seems to be jacks father. look closely again, looks just like him in the chair and he's wearing the infamous white sneakers with his suit . if not, that certainly is jack's father and jacob may be invisible. why they're there i don't know, but why was locke's father on the island. as for the eye, i think it's locke's. it isn't weird to think that he would be welcome at jacob's house.
i agree with the 4toe thing. wtf is it...
i dont know wtf the whispers were, but the first few times the whispers came the others soon followed. this time, they seem to randomly come about and without ben ordering to do anything with hurley, i figure they came from jacob the weirdo.

richard never seen jacob, as i recall, nor met him. only ben has any contact with him.

we don't know that people not in the 6 were murdered. clearly there has been a split in the island and so far we know jack+kate+hurley are back. jack and kate planned to be rescued, and hugo is just a weirdo who somehow got back. i think that the "secret" they're keeping is that there are more survivors on the island and that the 6 made a pact to say nothing about it. hence, interrogators after hurley for information. this seems to follow with the s3 finale, when jack doesn't want to "lie anymore.

Some of this makes sense (if the world of Lost has any rational sense for the taking!) except for the highlighted portion. It would make sense that Richard be in touch with Jacob. He was one of the pirates from the Black Rock and introduced young Ben to the tribe.

Could be that the rescue team only had room for 6 and made the survivors swear to never tell anyone that they left everyone else behind to die.

That's probable . . .

 

[kickureface]

i highly doubt the survivor theory. some of them want to stay on the island. locke for sure. nevertheless, hurley would probably not be admitted for obvious reasons.

is richard from the black rock? i never heard that. and isn't the black rock danielle's ship, or did i confuse myself with something. if it is, then richard and danielle should be pretty close.

 

[KarmaSutra]

i highly doubt the survivor theory. some of them want to stay on the island. locke for sure. nevertheless, hurley would probably not be admitted for obvious reasons.

is richard from the black rock? i never heard that. and isn't the black rock danielle's ship, or did i confuse myself with something. if it is, then richard and danielle should be pretty close.

Roussoe was on a scientific expedition who's ship crashed on The Island long after the Black Rock. She and her company are the reason there were polar bears on a pacific island.

The Pirates of the Black Rock have been there for a long long time.

 

[kickureface]

that would explain the natives. i highly believe richard is a man of power, who will be revealed to have an important role later on.
he doesn't age.
he's handsome (no homo)
it's strange that albeit he was one of the "hostiles" he still went back to america to recruit juliet, and he seemed perfectly in tune with american culture.
he answers to ben for some strange reason.
he's always around when important things happen-locke meeting his father on the island, giving locke the idea to use sawyer, etc. last time he was on the show ben told him to go somewhere, which seemed like a fortress or something.
explain the poalr bears? they brought polar bears on her ship?!

 

[KarmaSutra]

that would explain the natives. i highly believe richard is a man of power, who will be revealed to have an important role later on.
he doesn't age.
he's handsome (no homo)
it's strange that albeit he was one of the "hostiles" he still went back to america to recruit juliet, and he seemed perfectly in tune with american culture.
he answers to ben for some strange reason.
he's always around when important things happen-locke meeting his father on the island, giving locke the idea to use sawyer, etc. last time he was on the show ben told him to go somewhere, which seemed like a fortress or something.
explain the poalr bears? they brought polar bears on her ship?!

Rousso and her people were on a scientific expedition when they crashed on the Island. I assume they were coming back from Alaska or somewhere towards one of the poles with the bears when they veered off course (similar situation?) and were abandoned by the search party.

As for Richard, he's going to become very powerful indeed and in the near future. Ben has a mutiny on his hands. First Juliet, then Richard. Seems he doesn't like not being able to manipulate everyone when the Island is turning on him. The Island has found a new conduit in Locke. Ben grew to be a very strong willed and cunning leader which is why Richard and his people follow him. Richard though, is far more than what he shows.

 

[kickureface]

agreed. when did richard turn sides? i dont remember that. in fact, i dont remember half of season 2 or 3. or 1, for that matter
if you follow the philosopher theory (john locke, rousseau, hume, etc) then richard alpert has great importance. his was named ram dass, meaning servant of god.
he also seems to take a liking to locke. when they sat together and he gave him sawyer's files, he earlier stated that ben doesn't want locke to seem important, i forget the wording. richard then follows with the implication that locke has a far more powerful connection to the island than ben does.

 

[KarmaSutra]

agreed. when did richard turn sides? i dont remember that. in fact, i dont remember half of season 2 or 3. or 1, for that matter
if you follow the philosopher theory (john locke, rousseau, hume, etc) then richard alpert has great importance. his was named ram dass, meaning servant of god.
he also seems to take a liking to locke. when they sat together and he gave him sawyer's files, he earlier stated that ben doesn't want locke to seem important, i forget the wording. richard then follows with the implication that locke has a far more powerful connection to the island than ben does.

Exactly. Which is why Locke has been healed of his bullet wound and his paralysis. The Island has found a stronger, more dominant conduit for itself. Ben has been slowing dying as Locke has become stronger. See a pattern here?

I think The Island was trapped within the electromagnetic field and it needed Locke to stop Desmond from pushing the numbers. Now watch as Black Smoke comes for Ben and the others who've kept it prisoned.

 

[kickureface]

when was the smoke ever imprisoned?
the only thing known about the smoke is that it's some sort of security system, to test whether those are worthy of staying. the pilot in the pilot episode didnt pass, but locke did. i think kate did, with the smoke taking the form of the black horse. i even beleive that it extends to the forms of hallucinations that hurley and jack have witnessed (dave and his dad, who now seems to be jacob's tea buddy). eko died for his own reasons. and after the hatch exploded, mr smoke seems to have left.
the island had indeed been trapped. the place could not have been found with such high interference and such powerful magnetic fields stopping machines from getting near it. after it blew up, penny's searchers said they might have found desmond. etc etc.

 

[KarmaSutra]

I think the smoke is the Island's projection. It's the manifestation of itself as it was contained by the magnetic field. Once Desmond turned the key it burned away the field and allowed outside contact until Ben sent forces to man Looking Glass Station to reapply the field. But it was too late as Naomi and her group had found the Island.

I think Black Smoke is as real as Locke and just as deadly. Though the two of them understand each other. If you recall in season one when Locke has the face off with it and then came back to the Island saying what he saw was "beautiful". It was B.S.'s test of courage for Locke to see if he would be the next chosen one over Ben. Locke won.

 

[penkitten]

i wish they would show more about richard... but i guess they cant give it all away at once now can they?

 

[Harpe]

I always thought that the polar bears came from Dharma. They were kept in the cages that later housed Kate and Sawyer and escaped when the other killed all the Dharma people.

The smoke monster has made a few appearances since the explosion in the hatch. It was shown being kept at bay by the magnetic field and it also killed Eko.

Small tidbit I remembered after watching the season 3 finale: Charlie uses the wrong hand for the sign of the cross just before his death. One more strange small detail that will probably never be answered, but still has me puzzled.

Also, I think the secret that they are keeping has to be bigger than there are other survivors on the island, seems too easy to figure out for lost.

I wonder how they are going to deal with the flashforwards now. Every character on the show usually gets at least one, usually two episodes focusing on them a season. Now that they have shown Jack and Hurley flash forward, there are only (presumably) 4 others(including Kate) who are off the island who can have flash forwards, unless the other characters will flash forward and still be on the island, or flash backwards still (which would be disappointing). That would mean that if they do a Kate episode next week, we could see the 4th person to get off the island by week three. Then again, they might scrap the flash forward/flash backward thing for every episode this season (I think they scrapped it for one episode last season).

I am thinking that they will do a michael episode this season as well. There's no way that is the end of things with him, especially as Locke saw Walt, and I am half way convinced that was him in the coffin...

 

[penkitten]

walt comes to people every now and then, and has since he left the group with the others back in season one.
i think he appeared to locke last season after he was gone on the boat with his father.

 

[KarmaSutra]

I always thought the polar bears were brought to the Island by Rousseau and her team. It seems that the Dharma group built cages to contain them but didn't bring them to the Island with them. They seemed a bit too nefarious for that.

I agree about the flash forwards, there will be more of those regarding the 6 than the flashbacks of the survivors.

 

[penkitten]

i guess i never suspected the french lady's team bringing the polar bears. do french people have much access to polar bears?
seems to me that dharma had more money to invest in such experiments and research than french lady's team.... and probably more access to the polar bears.
whatcha think?