Looks do matter on men

[floydb25]

Word... But they don't guarantee ****. Girls used to call me very complimentive things in regards to looks, and were very interested in getting physical, but I couldn't sustain attraction for ****. These are two very different things, but still intervined (ie, looks required FOR attraction). If you come on too strong, show too much interest, present no value or challenge, aren't assertive or confident, act like an asexual frog, come off as weak, desperate, insecure, and undesirable, etc, you're not going to last for ****. They might still be turned on by you, and have sex with you, but there will be no sparks, passion or excitement. FWBs and placeholders are common. Certainly no respect or value will be given, or placed upon you.

This works both ways, too. "Hot" girls who showed too much interest, revealed too much, were too "nice" (not being kind or sweet), easy, etc, weren't as exciting or interesting as those who didn't give a ****, had lives, other options, held back, etc. Everyone likes a challenge; something to fight for, and someone of value.

I think its a combination of looks + emotions. And this is for both genders.

 

[Down Low]

My spreadsheet model shows that if you're a MB4, you're in the top 33.86% of male looks. If you're a MB5, you're in the top 24.68%. Your target group are HB3, who are in the top 28.39% of female looks. Female beauty is rarer than male beauty. IOW, women are uglier than men. Here's the chart in case you missed it in other threads.

DOWNWARD-CUMULATIVE SCALE

HB . . women . . men
9+ . . 0.88% . . 3.01%
8+ . . 2.21% . . 6.77%
7+ . . 4.19% . . 11.47%
6+ . . 7.17% . . 17.34%
5+ . . 11.64% . . 24.68%
4+ . . 18.34% . . 33.86%
3+ . . 28.39% . . 45.33%
2+ . . 43.46% . . 59.67%
1+ . . 66.08% . . 77.59%
any . . 100.00% . . 100.00%

(HB7+ means everything from 7.0 to 9.9. There are no perfect tens, but there are plenty of perfect 0.0s.)

 

[rrrrr]

Every girl has their own taste in men and what they find physically attractive. What is hot to one girl might be relatively ugly to another girl. The point is what THAT GIRL finds physically attractive.

Not you.

Not her friends.

HER.

And women have the ability to be as damn picky as they want in society these days. They will always have a flock of men to choose from.

Explain Pamela Anderson. Christina Hendricks. Kid Rock is not handsome. And don't give me the excuse that Kid Rock has fame. So does Pamela and she could have gone out with any other rocker that was better looking.


I used to think like you until I've seen this enough. An 8 in me looks doesnt necessarily get an 8 at best in the opposite sex. If you come off as very assertive that takes you up a few notches

 

[ScottMustaine]

Explain Pamela Anderson. Christina Hendricks. Kid Rock is not handsome. And don't give me the excuse that Kid Rock has fame. So does Pamela and she could have gone out with any other rocker that was better looking.


I used to think like you until I've seen this enough. An 8 in me looks doesnt necessarily get an 8 at best in the opposite sex. If you come off as very assertive that takes you up a few notches

Personality ?

 

[bish0p]

Personality ?

Yeah, but this thread is about male looks and how it pertains to women.

Another thing I've noticed is that you don't see a lot of female celebrities with buff men.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Explain Pamela Anderson. Christina Hendricks. Kid Rock is not handsome. And don't give me the excuse that Kid Rock has fame. So does Pamela and she could have gone out with any other rocker that was better looking.

I used to think like you until I've seen this enough. An 8 in me looks doesnt necessarily get an 8 at best in the opposite sex. If you come off as very assertive that takes you up a few notches

Hollywood is not a representation of the rest of society. You have to realize that what you see in 15 seconds on TV is not a representation of the celebrity's actual life out of the views of cameras. When you see Pamela Anderson on TV, she has about 17 lbs of makeup. She's not that attractive in person without makeup. You probably wouldn't look twice.

Have you seen female celebrities without makeup? You know Kim Kardashian? She's about a 5/6 without makeup. Look her up online. With makeup people think she is an 8.

Being assertive is better than being a pushover. All I'm saying is that it doesn't change your looks and that is the first item you will be judged based on.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

And you've just conceded that looks don't matter because they're radically subjective.

That's an erroneous inference. I am saying looks matter. I am just saying the type of look may vary a bit from woman to woman. That fact that you must fit HER type of look is what does not vary. EVER. AT ALL. You MUST fit her idea of attractive. All the game in the world won't matter if you don't fit the mold.

Not all physical traits are universally attractive or unattractive...EXCEPT ONE:

1) Symmetrical facial features - Regardless of ANYONE'S type, man or woman, symmetrical facial features signifies "good genes" and is an attractive trait. It is universal across all cultures. It is in our blood.

Here is what is NOT universal:

1) Build - some women like smaller men. Some like muscular men. Some like chubby/fat men.

2) Height - This one is controversial, however, not ALL women like tall men. MOST do, but not all. I have met girls who actually did not like taller men. All of my ex's bf's in the past were under 5'10.

3) Hair - some girls love a bald head. Some love a head full of hair. Not much to say here.

etc, etc, etc

 

[VladPatton]

Yes looks matter to a woman, as well what others in her life think of you. Something to the tune of:

]-What her friends, besties, and bff's think: 60%

]-What her mother and other family members think: 30%

]-What she thinks personally: 10%


If all 3 connect, you just may have a chance.

 

[sambwoy]

Yes looks matter to a woman, as well what others in her life think of you. Something to the tune of:

]-What her friends, besties, and bff's think: 60%

]-What her mother and other family members think: 30%

]-What she thinks personally: 10%


If all 3 connect, you just may have a chance.

Not that it's any business of other parties. Other people can be cruel, and I lose my sanity when they put you down etc.
That kind of peer pressure in dating hacks me off...girlfriends at the water cooler and all that.
A good-looking guy would only be a trophy to a woman.

 

[PapiChulo]

"Cute" in general does NOT mean attractive. It is often female code for "not sexually attractive".

Are you serious? I used to have girls chase me in my teens and that was exactly what they called me. I was like a little Justine Bieber in my younger days. There is plenty of women who dig that, but it doesn't work for me as much now. Now it seems to be about the body mostly, that's why I started lifting. Now I am 225lbs at 6'5', still not hot. I still hear cute from time to time.

 

[betheman]

Are you serious? I used to have girls chase me in my teens and that was exactly what they called me. I was like a little Justine Bieber in my younger days. There is plenty of women who dig that, but it doesn't work for me as much now. Now it seems to be about the body mostly, that's why I started lifting. Now I am 225lbs at 6'5', still not hot. I still hear cute from time to time.

being called cute in your teens is code for hot! later in life, cute reverts to..cute, nice but bland.

 

[JdelaSilviera]

PapiChulo, be careful and don´t become too big... Too much muscle can be even worse than being skinny.

 

[Mike32ct]

being called cute in your teens is code for hot! later in life, cute reverts to..cute, nice but bland.

^This.

 

[zekko]

Yes in the 40+ year age bracket, looks matter more for women.

I've never banged any woman 40 or over, so I can't really comment on that.

But there is no way that looks can matter as much to women as they do to men. Does a man care what a woman does for a living? How much money she makes? How much social status she has? How dominant she is? How much power she has? These things matter to women, and can compensate for looks to some degree.

In contrast, all a man really cares about as far as attraction factors go is whether or not the woman is pretty. He may have individual preferences about personality, but so will women, and those vary from person to person.

 

[betheman]

I've never banged any woman 40 or over, so I can't really comment on that.

But there is no way that looks can matter as much to women as they do to men. Does a man care what a woman does for a living? How much money she makes? How much social status she has? How dominant she is? How much power she has? These things matter to women, and can compensate for looks to some degree.

In contrast, all a man really cares about as far as attraction factors go is whether or not the woman is pretty. He may have individual preferences about personality, but so will women, and those vary from person to person.

thing is, I see a lot of divorcees around, they have the house, the guy has usually paid additional for kids as well, a lot of these women have jobs, basically, they have their 'own' sh1t now, what they look for is a good looking guy around 5 years younger than them, sure if some wealthy dude comes along who is older, maybe not so in shape, she will swing that way but they sem to be quite happy riding younger c0cks in the meantime

 

[sambwoy]

Girls that were age appropriate for me seemed to delight in putting me down in their gangs, but that could be prevented, as they were infatuated with looks, drama and excitement, their closed-off world views and anything lacking in substance. At least when you are around elderly people or married couples there’s none of that pressure. Nothing can come of it but at least it doesn’t cause you to lose your sanity.

 

[floydb25]

Yes looks matter to a woman, as well what others in her life think of you. Something to the tune of:

]-What her friends, besties, and bff's think: 60%

]-What her mother and other family members think: 30%

]-What she thinks personally: 10%


If all 3 connect, you just may have a chance.

Very true. But I'd replace family with strangers. Women, IME, dont judge you by what THEY think, and therefore, don't give a **** about how nice or genuine you are, or whatever. If they like you a lot, but assume their friends won't (without any actual evidence) - they won't bring you around their friends, or want to be seen with you in public. This is why perception is so important, and you don't reveal weaknesses and failures, or come off as needy, desperate, weak, etc. They won't view you as vulnerable and "real", but rather, undesirable. And this is based largely on impression and intuition. Things like confidence around women, social ability, how others treat you based on status, if you're shy, gentle, afraid, etc.

They also ask EVERYBODY about their opinions towards you - to see how your status fares. Again, decency has nothing to do with it. Nobody cares how trustworthy, kind, etc you are. That's not why all this **** happens, and this is the wrong mindset to have. They only care about how "cool" you are, and if its deemed acceptable to be seen with you.

IME, women always had super high interest when I came off as a high status bad boy player who didn't give a **** - then lost interest once reality didn't match their perception (IE, they got to know me). This, despite claiming that all guys are jerks and players, and everyone is fake. Hmmmmm? (This is why you don't sympathize, believe, or assume ****; they're fake and shallow, all the same - and seek after these types for superficial reasons).

But this is mainly the fake, status-obsessed crowd. It's all I associated with, and thus, all I know. lol. :nono:

 

[saturnalia]

absolutely irrefutabile prof that it`s all about the looks when it comes to sex

fake profile of a male model used to ask random young women online directly to get together

click on zoom after it`s loaded

http://i.imgur.com/6yJjL.jpg

 

[betheman]

absolutely irrefutabile prof that it`s all about the looks when it comes to sex

fake profile of a male model used to ask random young women online directly to get together

click on zoom after it`s loaded

http://i.imgur.com/6yJjL.jpg

this is sooo true

 

[saturnalia]

you people are deluding yourself with game

it`s always the tall, dark, handsome, laid back guy that wins the show

the rest are all scraping for leftovers

wealth is not distributed equally, so is with the pvssy

here`s your master pua designed by mother nature

http://i.imgur.com/6yJjL.jpg