Let's Change The World. Seriously.

[GoodMan32]

Chiming in here.

First I'm going to address the claim that I'm a disbeliever. My disbelief isn't entirely unfounded. My disbelief comes from the fact every single time I've expressed interest in a gal based on perceived IOIs, I've been wrong. When it happens 100% of the time, you begin to question your ability to gauge IOIs.

Now to address the general topic of the thread.

Whether the mods keep me or not is their call. I respect their decision either way (I've found plenty of online communities through the years. I can easily find more if I get the boot here)

Even if I stay, I won't post any of my borderline incel posts/threads anymore (as the mods have made it clear they don't want that type of content going forward)

I'm going to take a moment to point out, however, there have been gains I've made on this forum.

I learned that the man is supposed to pick the venue for dates. I learned the shirt I posted a thread about isn't the most flattering shirt. Any lesson I've learned, no matter how slight, is a step in the right direction.

I've started reading some literature that was recommended to me.

I've started traveling more, per @BaronOfHair's recommendation.

Additionally, I've learned some stuff through DM.

I've attended organized singles events. Even if the usefulness of these events has been questioned on the forum, the very fact I'm attending these events (rather than being glued to my laptop on the weekends like I would have been 6 months ago) is a step in the right direction.

 

[BaronOfHair]

And I hate to kick a man when he's down . But at some point you gotta be looking at the purpose of the forum and act accordingly

This really isn't complicated, when we think about it: The fellas who show up on this website asking for aid, then repeatedly and desperately concoct rationalizations for NOT adopting more adaptive beliefs and behaviors have no business being on website devoted to promoting self-development


To run with the analogy you provided a bit: An atheist is genuinely welcome in the pews of most houses of worship, IF they're at least willing to educate themselves about what's being professed at said house of worship/meet The Faithful halfway on some points. They only get shown the door when they start desperately trying to prove those whom they share space with "wrong"(and themselves "right") on every point

 

[corrector]

Your decline has been interesting to watch. You had a few moments that were really hopeful and it seemed like you was taking babysteps forward, but now you are running backwards again.

I bet Chat-GPT got more bl0wjobs than @The Duke . Right?

And how do you know I'm not taking babysteps now? I'm not documenting them here. At least when I use Chat-GPT, I get, on the nose constructive feedback without the heckling or even discouraging feedback that I get on here. It's now more likely that I will get somewhere as I'm being held accountable.

 

[BaronOfHair]

And how do you know I'm not taking babysteps now?

Fairly recently, we had this thread https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/cringe-lunch-or-personal-social-experiment.281356/ , despite you having been a member of SS since '09. The weight of the evidence indicates that you haven't been learning

 

[BaronOfHair]

They aren't seeking help, they don't want solutions to their problems, they just want someone to tell them they are right and the ability to have someone listen to them complain

Men in America/The Post-Industrial West more generally, have been no less suspectible to the sort of self-sabotaging pathologies that became de rigeur among women, non-whites, and gays from '16-the present

 

[Vanderdonck]

And how do you know I'm not taking babysteps now? I'm not documenting them here.

By only sharing your defiance and negativity here, you're proving everyone's point.

Imagine a weight loss forum where one member just posts discouragement and self pity and doesn't bother sharing his progress. Sorry, it doesn't make sense.

 

[corrector]

By only sharing your defiance and negativity here, you're proving everyone's point.

I don't think so. When I post about "baby steps" on other threads I get attacked by other members on here, especially @Gamisch. There is more constructive feedback using the AI then making posts about "baby steps". So I'm actually calling out @Gamisch on that.

With exception of a few posters, I have not had any constructive feedback and just get attacked as well for whatever coping strategies that I have as well.

Imagine a weight loss forum where one member just posts discouragement and self pity and doesn't bother sharing his progress. Sorry, it doesn't make sense.

I've shared progress before and get attacked on here. Baby steps is not considered progress. In fact, I have not been posting much here about anything. Find me any so called "defiance and negative" post over the past month (ie other than in defense to a stupid post) then I'm all ears. In fact, I've lost interest in posting period, other than an update thread from chat-gpt.

 

[corrector]

Fairly recently, we had this thread https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/cringe-lunch-or-personal-social-experiment.281356/ , despite you having been a member of SS since '09. The weight of the evidence indicates that you haven't been learning

That's for bringing up an old thread I made last year. That is not a recent thread (ie is the date that thread started "recent"). You had to dig for that one. It shows people are more intent on attacking me rather than offering any constructive advice. However, when using an AI algorithm like Chat-GPT it just offers constructive feeback because, unlike the idiots on here, AI is not interested in attacking me, but offers constructive feedback.

 

[Gamisch]

I don't think so. When I post about "baby steps" on other threads I get attacked by other members on here, especially @Gamisch. There is more constructive feedback using the AI then making posts about "baby steps". So I'm actually calling out @Gamisch on that.

With exception of a few posters, I have not had any constructive feedback and just get attacked as well for whatever coping strategies that I have as well.



I've shared progress before and get attacked on here. Baby steps is not considered progress. In fact, I have not been posting much here about anything. Find me any so called "defiance and negative" post over the past month (ie other than in defense to a stupid post) then I'm all ears. In fact, I've lost interest in posting period, other than an update thread from chat-gpt.

You know, there is something about me that makes people like you hate me. IRL it's the same. Recently I almost had to behead a colleague at work for acting like a bytch. It doesn't faze me anymore. If anything, I look at it as a compliment. My energy makes men like you shiver.

I'm a no bs-zero tolerance- stfu and go- type of brother. I came from the gutter and had all odds stacked against me. Yet I am rising and making progress every damn day.

I've literally spend my precious time thinking typing and responding to you and Goodman and other incels. From the heart. And this is how y'all thank me. You are 48 and you talk about babysteps ..URGENCY should be your Magix word. You should be going all in, babysteps is for men in their early twenties.

Whatever. I can take a punch or two. I am calling guys like you out again and again and again untill you either leave this place or do what I tell you to do.

I am here to either create a harem or to find a unicorn or both. I'm addicted to women so sosauve is the absolute best thing for a man like me. You either follow and ride along or you get of the boat. I literally have life-long friends like you IRL and I had to cut them off be because I refuse to surround myself with that type energy. I can't do it anymore. I have to go forward, I am a father who needs to carry his offspring and I am motivated AS FECK.

You muppet

 

[corrector]

You are 48 and you talk about babysteps ..URGENCY should be your Magix word. You should be going all in, babysteps is for men in their early twenties.

I do not consider that to be constructive feedback. To address the elephant in the room: Why would I bring up "baby steps" after you are writing something like that and hold that position? You then want to make a statement that I'm declining because I'm not posting about these "baby steps" so you can continue mocking me?

 

[Vanderdonck]

I don't think so. When I post about "baby steps" on other threads I get attacked by other members on here, especially @Gamisch. There is more constructive feedback using the AI then making posts about "baby steps". So I'm actually calling out @Gamisch on that.

With exception of a few posters, I have not had any constructive feedback and just get attacked as well for whatever coping strategies that I have as well.



I've shared progress before and get attacked on here. Baby steps is not considered progress. In fact, I have not been posting much here about anything. Find me any so called "defiance and negative" post over the past month (ie other than in defense to a stupid post) then I'm all ears. In fact, I've lost interest in posting period, other than an update thread from chat-gpt.

You just said you weren't documenting them here. Which is it?

 

[Gamisch]

Chiming in here.

First I'm going to address the claim that I'm a disbeliever. My disbelief isn't entirely unfounded. My disbelief comes from the fact every single time I've expressed interest in a gal based on perceived IOIs, I've been wrong. When it happens 100% of the time, you begin to question your ability to gauge IOIs.

Now to address the general topic of the thread.

Whether the mods keep me or not is their call. I respect their decision either way (I've found plenty of online communities through the years. I can easily find more if I get the boot here)

Even if I stay, I won't post any of my borderline incel posts/threads anymore (as the mods have made it clear they don't want that type of content going forward)

I'm going to take a moment to point out, however, there have been gains I've made on this forum.

I learned that the man is supposed to pick the venue for dates. I learned the shirt I posted a thread about isn't the most flattering shirt. Any lesson I've learned, no matter how slight, is a step in the right direction.

I've started reading some literature that was recommended to me.

I've started traveling more, per @BaronOfHair's recommendation.

Additionally, I've learned some stuff through DM.

I've attended organized singles events. Even if the usefulness of these events has been questioned on the forum, the very fact I'm attending these events (rather than being glued to my laptop on the weekends like I would have been 6 months ago) is a step in the right direction.

You can't go to the Mosk saying you think Mohammed was a child rapist or go to church saying the big bang created life rather than God. They gonna eat you alive.

You are a geust here. A geust that puts his foot with shoes on the table and takes shyte from the fridge without asking.

If you wanna be successful with women you should LISTEN. We've told you that the gym is mandatory . Don't even dare to argue against it in his thread. You are simply too lazy and you don't have any self respect to pull off task number one.

I'm done pampering you man-babies. Time to make a decision. You either follow and do what you've been told or leave.

 

[corrector]

You just said you weren't documenting them here. Which is it?

Did you not read the other posts down this thread?

 

[Gamisch]

I do not consider that to be constructive feedback. To address the elephant in the room: Why would I bring up "baby steps" after you are writing something like that and hold that position? You then want to make a statement that I'm declining because I'm not posting about these "baby steps" so you can continue mocking me?

I don't see why I should give you constructive feedback. Feedback by itself should be more than enough. We are grown men.

But IIRC you are fully aware that it's not just Gamisch who is fed up with this defeatist mindset.

You can take your ball and go play somewhere else IDGAF. Mocking you? So you ignore my statement about putting time and energy into your whims and what's not? Okay dude.

Thread topic: Let's make the world a better place.
Thread content: incels defending their stance and doubling down on " boohoo woo me" .

 

[Vanderdonck]

Did you not read the other posts down this thread?

There you go again.

I'm not here to do discovery on your case buddy. How about instead of constantly deflecting and prevaricating you start from Square One and post about your progress in a brand new thread. You'll see how supportive people here can be if you make an effort instead of bytching and moaning and being creepy. The other guy too.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Chiming in here.

First I'm going to address the claim that I'm a disbeliever. My disbelief isn't entirely unfounded. My disbelief comes from the fact every single time I've expressed interest in a gal based on perceived IOIs, I've been wrong. When it happens 100% of the time, you begin to question your ability to gauge IOIs.

As for you...

This thread is not about belief. It's about gathering technology and applying it in the way that gets the best results for each man.

Every time you've been given advice you have an excuse why it doesn't (or won't) work. 100% of the time? How many times? Do it more. Express interest differently. Don't go by IOIs. Find new ways. Work around your limitations.

Or, if you don't believe it, then stop doing it. Why waste time on a seduction forum if you don't believe in its tenets? Go to PUA Hate or one of those other black pill forums. Simple fix.

 

[The Duke]

You didn't get the memo? I think Chat-GPT has already made the likes of you obsolete.

I was hoping chat gpt would make your use of this website obsolete.

 

[New_Journey]

Chiming in here.

First I'm going to address the claim that I'm a disbeliever. My disbelief isn't entirely unfounded. My disbelief comes from the fact every single time I've expressed interest in a gal based on perceived IOIs, I've been wrong. When it happens 100% of the time, you begin to question your ability to gauge IOIs.

Now to address the general topic of the thread.

Whether the mods keep me or not is their call. I respect their decision either way (I've found plenty of online communities through the years. I can easily find more if I get the boot here)

Even if I stay, I won't post any of my borderline incel posts/threads anymore (as the mods have made it clear they don't want that type of content going forward)

I'm going to take a moment to point out, however, there have been gains I've made on this forum.

I learned that the man is supposed to pick the venue for dates. I learned the shirt I posted a thread about isn't the most flattering shirt. Any lesson I've learned, no matter how slight, is a step in the right direction.

I've started reading some literature that was recommended to me.

I've started traveling more, per @BaronOfHair's recommendation.

Additionally, I've learned some stuff through DM.

I've attended organized singles events. Even if the usefulness of these events has been questioned on the forum, the very fact I'm attending these events (rather than being glued to my laptop on the weekends like I would have been 6 months ago) is a step in the right direction.

If you're doing all of that, post them as field reports. That way you can go back and see how much you've improved. Post what you've done, results and what's next to do.