Let's Be Real Here Pt.3 - You should have started EARLIER

[savi0r]

Looking back, yeah, i should have started earlier. I had my mistakes, i admit that. But damn how life throws you around sometimes. I was insecure, i thought i had time, i procastinated some things. When it hit me, i was like 30, 31 maybe. I started putting my life in order from that point. But i can't bang my head against the wall now because i didn't do this or did that. I was life, it was as it was and i am looking for a better future. I have many good years left and hopefully i learnt from my mistakes and will do better in time. We all have our regrets. We have to live with them, eventually. Like ragnar lothbrock said : "don't waste your time looking back; you're not going that way". And regarding women, yes. It may be true that the good ones are locked early. But each of us is different, each life is different. Who knows what the future has in store for us? My job is to do all i can to live a good life, whatever that means for each of us. The rest is up to God.

 

[Smooth_texter]

It amazes me the level of autism in this forum.


By your own quote " Congrats on your progress. Every man should always improve" IT IS IMPOSSIBLE for that same guy at 28 be better than when he's 35, you know guy? Because "Every man should always improve" The only reason he can be worse is baldness or low testosterone, and even those things have cure.

You're just crying here because you are 33 and don't have an LTR, and blaming it on age. Have you thought that maybe you're fat, no money, social awkward, no interesting life, have no status, have no game, and instead of getting better you have the defeatist mindset "oh well I'm 33 I'm done, its not my fault its my age" Pathetic

So you're saying a 35 years old guy with everything in his life in check, finances, physique, status, game, will lose to lock down a 20 something quality girl against a 28 years old guy with very little going for himself? Why are you fooling yourself with that defeatist mentality?

I was commenting on the example that you gave earlier, of two guys: 35 y.o. and a 28y.o. competing for a 20s woman. My point was that age alone does not tell us everything, and the older guy is not always necessarily better (again, in your own example, you were comparing two different guys). Plus, the older you are, the more requirements are put upfront from women. An early 20s guy most times would only need to show that he is on the right path.

Regarding your guesses - none of those are correct (I have worked out on/off and have had abs since 16, have my own career achievements, above average in salary and height for my country and so on). I have had hair loss, which impacted my SMV. Which tends me to believe that looks is a lot more important than the red pill actually admits.

Game alone cannot create physical attraction, regardless of what you read here or watch on youtube.

 

[Smooth_texter]

I agree with this “ lets be real”
You should focus on:

Well being-relationships
/ \

Money/career Fitness/Health

All at the same time, the sooner the better balancing all three.

Hi.

Yes, the sooner these are dealt with, the less problems down the line when a guy is older.

 

[Smooth_texter]

Looking back, yeah, i should have started earlier. I had my mistakes, i admit that. But damn how life throws you around sometimes. I was insecure, i thought i had time, i procastinated some things. When it hit me, i was like 30, 31 maybe. I started putting my life in order from that point. But i can't bang my head against the wall now because i didn't do this or did that. I was life, it was as it was and i am looking for a better future. I have many good years left and hopefully i learnt from my mistakes and will do better in time. We all have our regrets. We have to live with them, eventually. Like ragnar lothbrock said : "don't waste your time looking back; you're not going that way". And regarding women, yes. It may be true that the good ones are locked early. But each of us is different, each life is different. Who knows what the future has in store for us? My job is to do all i can to live a good life, whatever that means for each of us. The rest is up to God.

Hi mate.

That is true and it is the usual way that things play out in life.

Regardless of where you are currently, you should improve for yourself. My thread is for the 18-23 y.o. guys to better understand the actual reality, instead of delaying some aspects of their life, in order to have them in their mid/late 30s.

 

[Smooth_texter]

Of course different people of different ages will be better or worse than others, mix and match, nobody is denying that.

If you have all of that, it means you're extremely awkward socially and can't even hold a simple conversation to game the girl, you expect every girl to drop her panties as soon as she sees you?

In the red pill they say muscles, money & game, not one at the expense of the others, idk where you heard that physique don't matter as much. I will say today is what matters the most, cause women can make their own money, they want a "hot" guy who gets it and at least don't leave under a bridge, cause "hot" guys are scarce when obesity is through the roof like 60%, and what is scarce creates value.

No, I understand game, know how to spark and withdraw interest and so on.

I rarely can seduce the specific women I want, and if I do so, I cannot keep them. But I have limited myself to not mess with women from the places I've worked, that are the ones usually sending me IOUs.

Physique matters less than height, hair and facial aesthetics. I have lost women to guys that had just height over me.


Women crave good looks + height. They start considering the other things that you or the red pill mentions if they want an LTR with the guy.

 

[Smooth_texter]

So you're 6'5", she replaced you for a guys who is 6'6" or 6'7", 2 inches taller and you're saying it was because you're not tall enough, funniest $hit I've read in here.

Can you point out where I have said that I am 6'5''?

But it does not matter, the thread is not about me.

 

[parabellum]

Then its best to assume any woman that one enters a "monogamous" relationship with will fvck some other guy. So then would it not be prudent to just lie to women and fvck on the side?

I second this, provide that you didn’t get the good girl in your early 20s. Not a popular opinion with the cool aid drinkers thought.

 

[pipeman84]

One of the biggest celebrities in the pick up communities (and a day game titan) - Paul Janka said in a recent podcast that his biggest regret was having a daughter at 39-40, because his father was already too old and saw her only once before he passed away.

"I make a much better father and husband now than I could have earlier … I sometimes think all men should wait till they're 50 to settle down," Stallone told Women's Day in 2007.

 

[Smooth_texter]

"I make a much better father and husband now than I could have earlier … I sometimes think all men should wait till they're 50 to settle down," Stallone told Women's Day in 2007.

Quoting famous people aside, how realistic is having a 18-20 year old wife in your fifties? Especially with your requirement for her to be a virgin.

How many friends from real life do you know that have done this?


P.S. Stallone has 100s of millions of dollars, and is an action movie icon. I do not think that his advice is applicable for an average or a bit above average Joe.

 

[SW15]

how realistic is having a 18-20 year old wife in your fifties?

It's barely realistic for a 30 year old. Even at 35, you're going to need to have $$ to pull that off.

 

[pipeman84]

P.S. Stallone has 100s of millions of dollars, and is an action movie icon. I do not think that his advice is applicable for an average or a bit above average Joe.

Stallone is basically just repeating Aristotle's message from 2300yrs ago

ideal age for a man to get married is when he's about 37 with a woman who's about 18.

and probably said 50 years because he was that age back in 2007.

Now let me ask you this: how realistic is a that a 25yrs old guy on average income is going to have a happy family life with enough time to dedicate to his wife, sufficient wisdom and patience to raise children? If they are high school sweethearts, that's fine, that's their challenge, to discover life together. But this modern, nonsensical arrangement of a guy in his mid-later 20s to marry some woman the same age just because many people around him do it and it's normalized by society is a recipe for strife and unhappiness.

Quoting famous people aside, how realistic is having a 18-20 year old wife in your fifties? Especially with your requirement for her to be a virgin.

Firstly, I didn't say that a +50yrs old guy with a 18-20yrs old wife is the ideal. Secondly, the issue is not how realistic or not it is, but how many guys really want it, and then what they're doing about it. From my observations, most guys don't even envision the thought of marrying a younger, virgin woman. Look at the father of manoshphere, Rollo, married a woman 3-4yrs older who was fvcking at least 2 other guys in the early stages of their dating. Look at all the millionaires marrying hoes and single moms. Guys have been thoroughly brainwashed and are sheep doing what they see the majority around them do.

 

[Smooth_texter]

Now let me ask you this: how realistic is a that a 25yrs old guy on average income is going to have a happy family life with enough time to dedicate to his wife, sufficient wisdom and patience to raise children? If they are high school sweethearts, that's fine, that's their challenge, to discover life together. But this modern, nonsensical arrangement of a guy in his mid-later 20s to marry some woman the same age just because many people around him do it and it's normalized by society is a recipe for strife and unhappiness.


Firstly, I didn't say that a +50yrs old guy with a 18-20yrs old wife is the ideal. Secondly, the issue is not how realistic or not it is, but how many guys really want it, and then what they're doing about it. From my observations, most guys don't even envision the thought of marrying a younger, virgin woman. Look at the father of manoshphere, Rollo, married a woman 3-4yrs older who was fvcking at least 2 other guys in the early stages of their dating. Look at all the millionaires marrying hoes and single moms. Guys have been thoroughly brainwashed and are sheep doing what they see the majority around them do.

- Regarding your first part of the argument - "happiness" lasts usually 1-3 years. Regardless of you met in your teens or fifties. Wisdom and patience are acquired by dealing with difficult every day life situations and problems, and nobody can teach you how to be a good father or husband, especially youtube or forums. So, if you have never been a father before, you would make the same mistakes whether you are 50 or 25 years old. Also, most kids were either loosely planned or were not planned at all. A 20 something man has a better chance statistically of creating a family with a 20 something woman (same generation, interests, both in their prime, shared memories from college for example), compared to a 50 year old. I have never said to be strapped to some woman in your 20s for the sake of it.

My point was that a man needs to already be a man at 25 (I wasn't a man enough then, and this impacted me later on), in order to be able to deal and lock a beautiful and submissive 20 something woman. The red pill and the forum are literally preaching the opposite - "you are not ready in your twenties, you should focus on your purpose and start screening at 35+ y.o." Thus resulting in 28+ y.o. men who are still acting as teenagers and learning basic things. Everyone should self improve at any age, but by starting earlier, you would be better at a younger age.

- Regarding your second part of the argument - Most guys have not envisioned having a virgin wife, since it is extremely rare in the modern world. It's possible that a guy might not find such a woman, let alone for her to commit to him with a 15+ year age gap. (I agree that there is an agenda.) Rollo and the others that you have cited just show that looks determine your dating pool and options, and the women in those relationships higher perceived SMV and the upper hand .