Law of Attraction Scam

[Cigar]

Those with large thinking paradigms but no success does not belie the principle that gargantuan success is subject to large thinking paradigms.

Let’s see if your logic can make sense of that.

Paradigm is a life coaching buzzword with virtually no context.

You fit right in with these village idiots hocking Made In China products. If you lived in the 1920's, that's who you'd be, rather than doing it here on a PUA reject forum.

 

[Asasione]

Yes, the name "New Thought" is actually a bit silly because there was nothing new about it all....as you said if you go back to the Bible you'll find verses like "As a man thinketh in his heart so is he", the teachings of Jesus on having faith the size of a Mustard seed being able to move mountains etc. If you go back even further you'll find it in the Hermetica - the notion that mind/thought is causative. So this ancient principle has long been out in the open - the New Thought movement was just simply the vehicle that commercialized it and made it accessible to the public. Since then there's been no shortage of material, with "The Secret" being the biggest book/movie that has stemmed from New Thought. I didn't read the book but did see the video - it was okay. I felt it left some things out, for example it's not enough to just think of 1 million dollars. You can do that until the cows come home, it won't do anything for you, especially when deep down you most likely don't believe you deserve that million dollars. And that's the thing...your desire must be congruent with your belief in having it....many people desire x but very few from what I have seen feel they can have or deserve it, whatever it may be. Of course I am talking about "lofty" things here...most people are taught to believe they can't, or aren't good enough, or any other such thing.

I'm of the camp that believes in it. I've used it towards very specific things and its proven itself to my satisfaction...when I've mentioned it to the other people, the skeptics have said "It would've happened anyway". It happens again, "Well it would've happened anyway". You could do it 1000x and it's always "It would've anyway, so do it once more". Now could it have just simply happened anyway? Sure, I wouldn't rule it out. They could have just simply been "coincidences"....however when I think of a couple very specific times in which it has happened....to me it doesn't feel like just a coincidence and I highly doubt it would've *just happened*.

At the end of the day people will either believe in it or not. If they don't, perfectly alright, but you owe it to yourself to test it. You have to test it and not just give it lip service. A lot of people say "oh yeah I believe in it, law of attraction, imagining creates reality" but if they are perfectly honest....i'd wager they think about how they can't, the different kinds of doubts they have...basically their mind is consumed with what they don't want the majority of the time. So do put it to the test and set the bar high - it's important to pick things that aren't *impossible* but appear difficult so when it does occur, you can't just dismiss it as chance. If you do that, and it happens, and then you try it again and it proves itself again, and this happens over and over....what then does it matter what the world thinks?

For those of you who are into this kind of stuff I suggest you check out Neville Goddard. He is very similar to Joseph Murphy which some of you have probably heard of- He is my favorite lecturer/writer on this subject & I do feel he is the best (And that is not just my opinion). You'll find a lot of actual live lectures on youtube. He was active back in the 1940's until the early 1970s.

I don't really follow these law of attraction stuff much, I read a couple books understood the gist of what was required and extracted whatever value I could from it. I'm not interested like some members here to complain about the industry and the proponents who are making bank from selling seminars and other materials or how large the industry is. None of this type of content is new, as we both agree. With knowledge as with anything else you take what you can from it and utilize the good and discard the bad and move on. Great to see it helped you in your life in some way. Peace

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

But my point is this:

- If the theory of the Law of Attraction/Positive Thinking concept is that those who participate in the concept will ATTRACT financial and health prosperity to them.......

- .........and the related Self-Help industry is over $20 billion a year alone in the US

- ..........but 80% of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck with 60% of them not being able to come up with $400 - $600 for an emergency, along with 70% being overweight and 40% being obese

- HOW THEN can the concepts be working if these are the results of Americans who are indulging in these concepts to the tune of $20 billion PLUS per year?

I'll await your response.

Your logic is flawed (not agreeing with law of attraction).

The exact same could be said for dieting books. Does that mean eating less and exercising is a scam, and doesn't work?

https://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=post&id=57034AEE-364E-1DE1-4E44-B7BACFB5F72B

* Americans spend over $60,000,000,000 to lose weight, every year! That's sixty billion dollars.

* Considering the fact that 75 million Americans are actively trying to lose weight, that’s $800 per person per year!

* About 3 billion dollars are spent on weight loss chains such as Weight Watchers.

* Diet pills and meal replacement solutions are a $3 billion market.

* Home delivery services for diet food, such as NutriSystem, are a $1 billion business.

* The bulk of the money is spent on foods advertised as "diet" (for example diet cola).

* 80 percent of dieters undertake the mission on their own, while 20 percent join a paid weight loss group or see a health professional.

* The typical dieter makes 4 attempts per year to try and lose weight. That's pretty dismal, because it means at least 3 diets fail.

* Fads are part and parcel of diet industry. Memorable trends from recent years include the Dukan Diet, the banana diet, and the 17-Day Diet.

 

[Tenacity]

Your logic is flawed (not agreeing with law of attraction).

The exact same could be said for dieting books. Does that mean eating less and exercising is a scam, and doesn't work?

https://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=post&id=57034AEE-364E-1DE1-4E44-B7BACFB5F72B

* Americans spend over $60,000,000,000 to lose weight, every year! That's sixty billion dollars.

* Considering the fact that 75 million Americans are actively trying to lose weight, that’s $800 per person per year!

* About 3 billion dollars are spent on weight loss chains such as Weight Watchers.

* Diet pills and meal replacement solutions are a $3 billion market.

* Home delivery services for diet food, such as NutriSystem, are a $1 billion business.

* The bulk of the money is spent on foods advertised as "diet" (for example diet cola).

* 80 percent of dieters undertake the mission on their own, while 20 percent join a paid weight loss group or see a health professional.

* The typical dieter makes 4 attempts per year to try and lose weight. That's pretty dismal, because it means at least 3 diets fail.

* Fads are part and parcel of diet industry. Memorable trends from recent years include the Dukan Diet, the banana diet, and the 17-Day Diet.

Well....I believe there is a difference here.....let me explain:

There ARE basic scientific principles of losing weight that's supported by Researchers, Professors, and Scientists, using the composition of the body, metabolism, etc., as the foundation of the research. So losing weight or losing fat, is backed by scientific principles which can be issued as STATEMENTS OF FACT.

As a result, it can be successfully argued in some capacity that the people aren't performing the concepts right or the structure of the concepts are not properly suited/customized, or the people aren't staying committed to the structure. It's a STATEMENT OF FACT that certain scientific principles once implemented, will result in weight loss unless there's some underlying physical disease that's creating some other issue.

With the Law of Attraction/Positive Thinking concept, there's no scientific research that backs any of these theories. Secondly, the Law of Attraction at its CORE does not accompany the requirement of any actionable plan. The Law of Attraction, at its CORE, states that quantum physics is in play all of the time and energies from your thoughts manifest into your surroundings....whether you actually DO something or not.....the subconscious mind is attracting to you what you think about. That's what the theory says.

With that being said, when asked the question, of why is the industry a $20 billion a year industry but Americans are still financially broke, by the simple fact that Americans are consuming the content, it means they are THINKING about it and thinking POSITIVE at least for the moments they are consuming the content....thus.....we should have at least most Americans at financial efficiency right now as those thoughts should have manifested into a stronger financial position in the environment for most Americans. And we do not have that result.

 

[devilkingx2]

- .........and the related Self-Help industry is over $20 billion a year alone in the US

iirc self help books have a really low standard of writing so pretty much any random guy can call himself a guru

like how you don't have to be sherlock holmes to get a PI license or you don't actually need to be a black belt to open a martial arts studio