Is it possible to find this type of girl, where to look?

[I_have_BDE]

I'm 31, not 33. What I would like to find:

1. An HB7 or 8 girl that is white. Ironically if I was ok with asians a lot of this list would be satisfied, but I prefer white girls.
2. 5'7" or taller.
3. I do not want to date anything higher than an 8 for a long term relationship, I don't believe they are good candidates. The allure of social media and attention wh0ring has poisoned that well too much.
4. College educated, I don't mind careerism or feministic in "some" respects as I get along with these quite well. Better than drone like NPC conservative girls, at least the conversations can be interesting/dynamic.
5. Thin, takes care of her health, eats organic. I don't want gym obsessed girls who post on social media.
6. Minimal social media usage, only posts family stuff very sporadically. No attention seeking selfies, public profiles to gather followers. Does not use tiktok.
7. Has some sort of career going for her, preferably in STEM or the arts. Business, law, sales, etc. I do not like. Same for teachers.
8. Up to age 30, preferably around 25.
9. Has a good relationship with her parents.

I have spent some time in the south florida area and these types are very hard to find. @Jesse Pinkman pretty accurately sums up the market, a lot of hot gold digger brainless types. So I am thinking to make a pivot.

Based on what I am looking for, Washington DC or Boston seem to be the best fit. Chicago I would consider but I consider it too midwestern for my tastes.

Seattle is maybe another options, but the ratio there for men is not good. Denver as well.

However, even in these cities, is the best bet to go to bars and swipe apps like everywhere else? Unfortunately I can't go back in time and attend one of the universities in these cities, I instead attended a big state u for financial/cost reasons. But it is what it is.

Here in FL that's very tough to find! What is it with women under 50 in FL? They're more plump, more tats, etc. The ones I see you describe are snatched up already. Most that move down to God's waiting room are already married and move to FL for their jobs like healthcare field. In your age range in FL those girls mostly went to school here and met someone already.

Really, any major top 30 city in the United States would be best for you. That's where the larger corps and better pay is at.

Florida is very transient. I see lots of scammer green card women in FL. I'm from St. Louis and the women there are far hotter. It's midwestern, but lower midwest since Missouri is a "border state." Low cost of living too. A smaller city like Springfield is a college town and a lot of hot chicks, but that might be too southern and bible belt for your taste. Will have to attend church to meet those types of women.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I'm 31, not 33. What I would like to find:

1. An HB7 or 8 girl that is white. Ironically if I was ok with asians a lot of this list would be satisfied, but I prefer white girls.
2. 5'7" or taller.
3. I do not want to date anything higher than an 8 for a long term relationship, I don't believe they are good candidates. The allure of social media and attention wh0ring has poisoned that well too much.
4. College educated, I don't mind careerism or feministic in "some" respects as I get along with these quite well. Better than drone like NPC conservative girls, at least the conversations can be interesting/dynamic.
5. Thin, takes care of her health, eats organic. I don't want gym obsessed girls who post on social media.
6. Minimal social media usage, only posts family stuff very sporadically. No attention seeking selfies, public profiles to gather followers. Does not use tiktok.
7. Has some sort of career going for her, preferably in STEM or the arts. Business, law, sales, etc. I do not like. Same for teachers.
8. Up to age 30, preferably around 25.
9. Has a good relationship with her parents.

I have spent some time in the south florida area and these types are very hard to find. @Jesse Pinkman pretty accurately sums up the market, a lot of hot gold digger brainless types. So I am thinking to make a pivot.

Based on what I am looking for, Washington DC or Boston seem to be the best fit. Chicago I would consider but I consider it too midwestern for my tastes.

Seattle is maybe another options, but the ratio there for men is not good. Denver as well.

However, even in these cities, is the best bet to go to bars and swipe apps like everywhere else? Unfortunately I can't go back in time and attend one of the universities in these cities, I instead attended a big state u for financial/cost reasons. But it is what it is.

Finding someone like that is going to be impossible, as some of your requirements are contradictory. For example, you want a career-oriented woman in her 20's who is looking for a long-term relationship? Good luck with that. Careerist women in their 20's tend to focus on...*drumroll*...establishing and building their careers. They only start thinking (and panicking) about serious relationships when they are well into their 30's and realize that's it's last call for getting their eggs fertilized. Also, a feminist who has a good relationship with her parents? Yeah right. Feminists are typically products of broken families and single mother households.

 

[DreamAgain]

Finding someone like that is going to be impossible, as some of your requirements are contradictory. For example, you want a career-oriented woman in her 20's who is looking for a long-term relationship? Good luck with that. Careerist women in their 20's tend to focus on...*drumroll*...establishing and building their careers. They only start thinking (and panicking) about serious relationships when they are well into their 30's and realize that's it's last call for getting their eggs fertilized. Also, a feminist who has a good relationship with her parents? Yeah right. Feminists are typically products of broken families and single mother households.

I don't think it's mutually exclusive to have a daughter who wants to look out for her career and not be dependent on her man to live. My mother was like this and was raised in a traditional household. My grandfather actually emphasized this to her, to study and establish a good job for herself so she would not marry for money.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Here in FL that's very tough to find! What is it with women under 50 in FL? They're more plump, more tats, etc. The ones I see you describe are snatched up already. Most that move down to God's waiting room are already married and move to FL for their jobs like healthcare field. In your age range in FL those girls mostly went to school here and met someone already.

Really, any major top 30 city in the United States would be best for you. That's where the larger corps and better pay is at.

Florida is very transient. I see lots of scammer green card women in FL. I'm from St. Louis and the women there are far hotter. It's midwestern, but lower midwest since Missouri is a "border state." Low cost of living too. A smaller city like Springfield is a college town and a lot of hot chicks, but that might be too southern and bible belt for your taste. Will have to attend church to meet those types of women.

LOL you are in Florida too? No wonder we relate so well with the Online Dating downfalls so well!

 

[DreamAgain]

LOL you are in Florida too? No wonder we relate so well with the Online Dating downfalls so well!

Yes online dating in FL is waste lol.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Yes online dating in FL is waste lol.

Online dating in Miami in a nutshell:

1. OnlyFans accounts looking for more followers.
2. Girls with their IG up wanting more followers but do not really check the app.
3. Passport girls thousands of miles away gold digging in Miami.

 

[Dr.Suave]

@DreamAgain How do you get these girls? You don't commit to anything less, and keep looking until you get one.

@DreamAgain This! This is the answer ime.

Only thing I would add is you have to accept there is a possibility that you may never find her but stick to your standards anyway. If you never find her then so be it. But hopefully you will find her sooner rather than later. Im rooting for you.

 

[DreamAgain]

OP you may have to go outside the US if you are serious.

Where would you recommend?

Due to smartphones and social media poison, I bet many places have become quite similar to the US.

 

[NealIRC]

Online dating in Miami in a nutshell:

1. OnlyFans accounts looking for more followers.
2. Girls with their IG up wanting more followers but do not really check the app.
3. Passport girls thousands of miles away gold digging in Miami.

And the beach??

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Leave the checkbox list for women.

Tell us what you have going on for yourself to be on the same frequency as the woman you are looking for.

 

[BeExcellent]

I don't think it's mutually exclusive to have a daughter who wants to look out for her career and not be dependent on her man to live. My mother was like this and was raised in a traditional household. My grandfather actually emphasized this to her, to study and establish a good job for herself so she would not marry for money.

This is exactly how I was raised^^^

I was exactly this girl at that age except I’m 5’6”. I was in LTRs during my 20s (2 years, 5 years, 1 year, 2 years). Next man I dated became my first husband. The amount of interest I got constantly was ridiculous and this was before smart phones and swipe apps.

Thing is @The Duke is absolutely right. If that is the type woman you want, you hold out for that and you keep your eyes open everywhere you go. The list of BFs I noted above? Here’s how I’d rate them and what they were educated in/did:

Electrical Engineer/MBA/ME PhD: SMV 8, Italian/Indian man, 6’2” trim athletic; gregarious personality which is rare for engineers but seems more common in Indian culture. Dated from 20-22. He cheated & broke my heart & I dropped him after that. Met in nightclub.

Finance/MBA/Rancher: Chad tier model good looks. SMV 9.5. Cross between Charlie Sheen & George Clooney, classic athletic build with V drop from shoulders to waist. He was 6’2” white with 1/8 Cherokee. Great guy, great family. Dated from 22-27.
Found out he had ONS’s behind my back here & there (women constantly threw themselves at this guy), dropped him. Broke his heart. He proposed but the trust was broken. His mother told him he was an idiot & he’d never find another gal like me. He didn’t. Met at a summer pool party.

Business degree/Top (as in actually #1) sales guy in a Fortune 500 company: Wrestlers build, but about a SMV 6.5 in looks. 5’9”. Scratch golfer. Great frame/game & personality but he could not handle my SMV being higher than his over time. Became more & more needy & insecure. Competition CW dancer. Great family. Dated from 27-28. I got sick of his insecurities and I dumped him. Met out CW dancing.

Attending Dentist at NYU: SMV 7.5, Persian. Ranked pro athlete, 5’10” athletic. LDR from 28-30. Got on great but he did not want to be married or have kids (he never has in fact), and that was something on my list of life goals. He has had an Asian live in gf now for 10+ years who works in finance in Manhattan. He’s been in private practice for years. Met on NY subway.

Along the way around 30 I also dated a professional runway male model prior to my husband. 6’4” 185lb fit &trim white guy with jet black hair, Paul Newman eyes, chiseled jaw 5 o’clock shadow by 3pm every day. SMV 10. Stunning man, Chad tier looks. Women threw themselves at this guy too. I dropped him because he was a workaholic and was neurotic. He hated losing me he confessed to a mutual friend years after I married & started a family. Met at first husband’s nightclub before becoming involved with first husband.

This is what the competition looks like OP. These girls are sought after by high value men because these are high value women. You want a bookish girl who is STEM but also hot. She will be intelligent. A beautiful girl who is genuine and smart and fit is what every man wants because this is an unusual combination to find after college/med school etc.

All the men listed above approached me and made their interest known. A science girl is going to be interested in a science guy. You’ve just got to be willing to put yourself out there. Each man (and my first husband as well as my fiancé) all made a “bold move”; they ALL were unequivocal in their interest. I can share exactly what each one did/said if you like but they left NO doubt they were interested in me upon meeting me.

So I never dealt with wishy washy indecisive can’t pick between this girl or that girl (yes 2 thought they’d plate me whilst being in an exclusive LTR, and I ended those relationships once I knew), but this is the landscape your target girl operates in.

Incidently my fiancé is similar to you; Technology career with 6 figure income, Chad tier looks & soccer athlete physique on a 6’3” 180lb frame, white, two master’s degrees, introverted & somewhat socially awkward but he’s good looking enough that women approach him regularly so he’s had no issue getting laid, he’s just tired of empty meaningless interactions with vapid, vacuous and shallow women, irrespective of hotness. Maybe my guy has a more handsome face but you have a lot going for you.

Sand volleyball coed leagues are a good option, so are places like coffee shops or cafes near say U of Miami medical campus or Jackson where STEM women are coming & going near work. Maybe check out lectures in your area on topics of interest. What you need to consider is the environment that your target girl will frequent. That may be a target rich environment. Get up earlier. The typical girl like you describe is going to be a morning person. I’m an anomaly in that regard. I have always enjoyed nightlife (and frankly need an edgy man who also appreciates the nightlife environment or has at least had those experiences in life.)…

Look. Science girls go out on occasion. You just gotta give a little thought to where to circulate.

And don’t fold or freak out if you meet one.

DM if you like.

Edit: Another thought. Have you considered taking a class here or there in your field to learn additional things? You could gain access to women with similar interests there & some might be cute & single. My guy works with a pretty software developer. She is very married.

 

[DreamAgain]

Leave the checkbox list for women.

Tell us what you have going on for yourself to be on the same frequency as the woman you are looking for.

Posted some of my stats earlier.

 

[DreamAgain]

Thanks @BeExcellent good post, I was told I'm cute lol but I'm no Sean O Pry or Brad Pitt at all.

Great level of detail in your writing

 

[DreamAgain]

I have no problem sharing some of my online dating matches (with profiles anonymized) to prove im not bs-ing. And even proof from actual dates. But obviously I need to further step up all aspects of my SMV if I am to be more competitive.

 

[BeExcellent]

Thanks @BeExcellent good post, I was told I'm cute lol but I'm no Sean O Pry or Brad Pitt at all.

Great level of detail in your writing

Appreciate that. The model looked almost exactly like Fabricio Zunino. Same facial bone structure, same thick dark hair, same ice blue eyes. Less body hair, thinner. But Zunino is otherwise nearly a dead ringer for him.

He would get away with wearing the latest Versace, Prada or Gucci outfit without looking like Guido. Beautiful man. Also very intelligent and kind.

Died of a drug overdose. Got too caught up in the party scene trying to fill a void. Really sad.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Where would you recommend?

Due to smartphones and social media poison, I bet many places have become quite similar to the US.

You need to let go of the social media hate, most sane women will have somewhat of one. However, if you want quality white girls, I find that the best places are tier 2 cities in any state, for big enough states that is. This means that for Florida, you avoid Miami and go to any other larger Florida city. For Georgia, you avoid Atlanta but check out Savannah. For South Carolina, you go to Charleston.

Tier 1 and world class cities are generally the worst places to find quality white women. The endless amount of "diversity" has them thinking their $hit don't stink. Instead, you go more to tier 2 cities in the western world and you may start to luck out.

College towns can occasionally be decent if you are LTR minded. If you want to rack up a lay count, good luck with that.

 

[TheEveningChronograph]

You need to let go of the social media hate, most sane women will have somewhat of one. However, if you want quality white girls, I find that the best places are tier 2 cities in any state, for big enough states that is. This means that for Florida, you avoid Miami and go to any other larger Florida city. For Georgia, you avoid Atlanta but check out Savannah. For South Carolina, you go to Charleston.

Tier 1 and world class cities are generally the worst places to find quality white women. The endless amount of "diversity" has them thinking their $hit don't stink. Instead, you go more to tier 2 cities in the western world and you may start to luck out.

College towns can occasionally be decent if you are LTR minded. If you want to rack up a lay count, good luck with that.

Good point. For some reason I still pulled mad ass in Columbia, SC.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Good point. For some reason I still pulled mad ass in Columbia, SC.

SC girls are the best girls in the south IMO.

SC girls can be quite hot and are top tier wife material. Most other southern states are just full of overcompensating types trying to desperately prove that they are not "southern". I mean one visit to Ratchet-Lanta (A Town) and you will cringe at how bad the south has fallen.

Georgia, Tennessee, North Carolina, and Virginia probably produce the most prudish, stuck up, and Karen-like creatures for women in the south and perhaps America.

 

[TheEveningChronograph]

SC girls are the best girls in the south IMO.

SC girls can be quite hot and are top tier wife material. Most other southern states are just full of overcompensating types trying to desperately prove that they are not "southern". I mean one visit to Ratchet-Lanta (A Town) and you will cringe at how bad the south has fallen.

Georgia, Tennessee, North Carolina, and Virginia probably produce the most prudish, stuck up, and Karen-like creatures for women in the south and perhaps America.

I couldn't have said it any better myself. Hence why I am looking to relocate to a southern state that's not on the list. I'm still researching some hidden poverty paradise spots to carve up for myself. I grew up poor enough in FL (JAX we'll say) to thrive in today's environment.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I couldn't have said it any better myself. Hence why I am looking to relocate to a southern state that's not on the list. I'm still researching some hidden poverty paradise spots to carve up for myself. I grew up poor enough in FL (JAX we'll say) to thrive in today's environment.

I hear JAX is underrated these days. Those spots are definitely out there. SC is underrated for sure. Oddly the best college town in the SEC I have gone to is Oxford, MS.