Is it possible to find this type of girl, where to look?

[SW15]

I am probably perceived as socially awkward, even though if you and I were to have a video call you would not think so in the slightest.

This is because I am introverted and not a "bro" like the stereotypes go. I don't care about watching sports, social media trends, TV shows, netflix, brunch, dogs, etc. I can fake interest in this enough time to get a one night stand and have done so in the past, but always felt empty and generally terrible, phony afterwards.

I don't really know how to fix this aside from drastically changing my personality, which I am not keen to do, or even think is possible to do.

I'm not a typical bro either. I like playing sports but not watching them. That's fine. I also am not really into social media trends, TV shows/streaming app content, brunch, or dogs. I can talk about cooking and food, which women seem to enjoy. Sports participation and exercise does make me relatable to women.

As long as you're not a boring science or engineering guy, you're probably ok.

If you're fine with going on drinks dates at bars with women you meet at non-bar venues, you can be ok.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Many times I have found what I am looking for but the girl was overweight. Maybe I should reconsider this being a dealbreaker, and workout with her after the fact.

Exactly. A few pounds isn't an issue, you can work those off her in a few months if you run Mr. Activity Guy with her and she follows your lead. Girls love it when their HV boyfriend is in the gym with her, training her specifically. This could be your route.

Wanted to add: you can't look like an NPC, you need a great haircut (not the same one all the other engineers are getting), and develop a personal dress style that differentiates you as well - if you have not already.

 

[DreamAgain]

I'm not a typical bro either. I like playing sports but not watching them. That's fine. I also am not really into social media trends, TV shows/streaming app content, brunch, or dogs. I can talk about cooking and food, which women seem to enjoy. Sports participation and exercise does make me relatable to women.

As long as you're not a boring science or engineering guy, you're probably ok.

If you're fine with going on drinks dates at bars with women you meet at non-bar venues, you can be ok.

It seems that social circle is more important now than any other stat or interest. Basically, if you are part of a big social circle and can talk about other people in this social circle (really this is gossiping, and it is the number 1 thing I have found girls love to do above all else), that makes up for any other shortcomings.

You can be fat, ugly, whatever, but if you are for whatever reason well positioned in an extensive social circle and have some status, that trumps everything else.

 

[NealIRC]

To me, girls can divided into 2 types: church girls and non-church girls. You didn't specify religion? You want a girl that gets along with her parents? Try church girls?

 

[SW15]

It seems that social circle is more important now than any other stat or interest. Basically, if you are part of a big social circle and can talk about other people in this social circle (really this is gossiping, and it is the number 1 thing I have found girls love to do above all else), that makes up for any other shortcomings.

You can be fat, ugly, whatever, but if you are for whatever reason well positioned in an extensive social circle and have some status, that trumps everything else.

You're a top tier physique guy at 6'5", 200 lbs, and low body fat. Top tier physique matters more than a social circle.

Social circle is great for getting a girlfriend. Pay close attention to the words "a girlfriend". That means one girlfriend. If you're looking for an extended relationship (2-5 years or more), your best bet for getting that with the least amount of grief and frustration is social circle. Many men who get social circle girlfriends tend to retain those girlfriends for a long time and often beyond the useful life of the relationship. A lot of the social circle girlfriend guys are beta males and beta males operate from a scarcity mindset. It's common to see a 10 year+ relationship from social circle which does lead to a marriage proposal.

A social circle introduction is a higher percentage play than a swipe app interaction or approaching a stranger (either in a bar or non-bar setting). It's a more difficult path and it's not a path I recommend highly. Social circle is better in the shorter to medium term. You can get a solid, medium term (1-4 years) girlfriend via social circles more easily than through approaches or swiping more easily.

The problem with social circles becomes sustainability over a longer period of time (5+ years). Social circles have a way of getting pissed off at men who continually exchange girlfriends without marriage or babies, even if the relationships are semi-long (1-4 years) Remember that social circles generally have a blue pill viewpoint on romantic relationships. After 2 or so instances of medium term relationships, the social circle will run dry. Social circle is not likely ideal for a serial monogamist who does have extended relationships but doesn't commit or the player type who tends to have relationships of less than 1 year.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I'm 31, not 33. What I would like to find:

1. An HB7 or 8 girl that is white. Ironically if I was ok with asians a lot of this list would be satisfied, but I prefer white girls.
2. 5'7" or taller.
3. I do not want to date anything higher than an 8 for a long term relationship, I don't believe they are good candidates. The allure of social media and attention wh0ring has poisoned that well too much.
4. College educated, I don't mind careerism or feministic in "some" respects as I get along with these quite well. Better than drone like NPC conservative girls, at least the conversations can be interesting/dynamic.
5. Thin, takes care of her health, eats organic. I don't want gym obsessed girls who post on social media.
6. Minimal social media usage, only posts family stuff very sporadically. No attention seeking selfies, public profiles to gather followers. Does not use tiktok.
7. Has some sort of career going for her, preferably in STEM or the arts. Business, law, sales, etc. I do not like. Same for teachers.
8. Up to age 30, preferably around 25.
9. Has a good relationship with her parents.

I have spent some time in the south florida area and these types are very hard to find. @Jesse Pinkman pretty accurately sums up the market, a lot of hot gold digger brainless types. So I am thinking to make a pivot.

Based on what I am looking for, Washington DC or Boston seem to be the best fit. Chicago I would consider but I consider it too midwestern for my tastes.

Seattle is maybe another options, but the ratio there for men is not good. Denver as well.

However, even in these cities, is the best bet to go to bars and swipe apps like everywhere else? Unfortunately I can't go back in time and attend one of the universities in these cities, I instead attended a big state u for financial/cost reasons. But it is what it is.

These are good ideas. I haven't tried volleyball but I'll look into it.

Fitness classes in south florida haven't yielded great results, but I should look into paying more for a better gym, so this is on me too.

You are describing Jewish Women in your OP. South Florida has 500K jews. What exactly is the problem again?

History of the Jews in South Florida - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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[DreamAgain]

You are describing Jewish Women in your OP. South Florida has 500K jews. What exactly is the problem again?

History of the Jews in South Florida - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

.

Hard to find ones that are single. I see many of them with boyfriends though, I would be happy to date a jewish girl.

 

[DreamAgain]

You're a top tier physique guy at 6'5", 200 lbs, and low body fat. Top tier physique matters more than a social circle.

Social circle is great for getting a girlfriend. Pay close attention to the words "a girlfriend". That means one girlfriend. If you're looking for an extended relationship (2-5 years or more), your best bet for getting that with the least amount of grief and frustration is social circle. Many men who get social circle girlfriends tend to retain those girlfriends for a long time and often beyond the useful life of the relationship. A lot of the social circle girlfriend guys are beta males and beta males operate from a scarcity mindset. It's common to see a 10 year+ relationship from social circle which does lead to a marriage proposal.

A social circle introduction is a higher percentage play than a swipe app interaction or approaching a stranger (either in a bar or non-bar setting). It's a more difficult path and it's not a path I recommend highly. Social circle is better in the shorter to medium term. You can get a solid, medium term (1-4 years) girlfriend via social circles more easily than through approaches or swiping more easily.

The problem with social circles becomes sustainability over a longer period of time (5+ years). Social circles have a way of getting pissed off at men who continually exchange girlfriends without marriage or babies, even if the relationships are semi-long (1-4 years) Remember that social circles generally have a blue pill viewpoint on romantic relationships. After 2 or so instances of medium term relationships, the social circle will run dry. Social circle is not likely ideal for a serial monogamist who does have extended relationships but doesn't commit or the player type who tends to have relationships of less than 1 year.

The thing is, I dont look jacked with clothes on. Since I'm lanky I would probably need to be 220-230 lbs for my physique to be noticeable. This is a lot of effort and I would have to force feed myself to probably achieve this. @sangheilios probably looks much more jacked than me and has the physique that women would be after.

You are right with your analysis of social circles though.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Hard to find ones that are single. I see many of them with boyfriends though, I would be happy to date a jewish girl.

Match.com is your friend and you can filter by religion. That site is chock full of 'em.

 

[SW15]

You are describing Jewish Women in your OP. South Florida has 500K jews. What exactly is the problem again?

History of the Jews in South Florida - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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I don't think he is describing a Jewish female. Most Jewish females are not 5'7"+ and athletic.

The thing is, I dont look jacked with clothes on. Since I'm lanky I would probably need to be 220-230 lbs for my physique to be noticeable. This is a lot of effort and I would have to force feed myself to probably achieve this. @sangheilios probably looks much more jacked than me and has the physique that women would be after.

In terms of attracting women, a jacked look like the one @sangheilios is likely to have is the one that will produce the most IOIs from the most attractive women.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I don't think he is describing a Jewish female. Most Jewish females are not 5'7"+ and athletic.



In terms of attracting women, a jacked look like the one @sangheilios is likely to have is the one that will produce the most IOIs from the most attractive women.

Again though you can search by height & body figure. You have tall and thin jewesses just like you have latinas. And there are enough of them to meet that or near those standards (ex. 5'6 and in good shape)

 

[SW15]

Again though you can search by height & body figure. You have tall and thin jewesses just like you have latinas. And there are enough of them to meet that or near those standards (ex. 5'6 and in good shape)

That's a fair point. Most Jewish women have at least a bachelor's degree.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

OP, you have a "distant" Jewish relative, right? You can always J-Date.

 

[DreamAgain]

OP, you have a "distant" Jewish relative, right? You can always J-Date.

Im actually Christian.

 

[The Duke]

@DreamAgain my exgf checked almost all of those boxes. Found her on hinge. She was definitely a top 10% girl. How do you get these girls? You don't commit to anything less, and keep looking until you get one. They aren't on every street corner and aren't available for long. There is no one place they all hang out either. It just doesn't work that way.
I've been with over 70 girls and this one was tied for 1st place.

As a man you better bring a lot to the table as well. She will expect equal SMV.

 

[DreamAgain]

@DreamAgain my exgf checked almost all of those boxes. Found her on hinge. She was definitely a top 10% girl. How do you get these girls? You don't commit to anything less, and keep looking until you get one. They aren't on every street corner and aren't available for long. There is no one place they all hang out either. It just doesn't work that way.

As a man you better bring a lot to the table as well. She will expect equal SMV.

Congrats that is a good find. Yes, for sure I will continue to work on myself to make sure I deliver on my end.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

@DreamAgain my exgf checked almost all of those boxes. Found her on hinge. She was definitely a top 10% girl. How do you get these girls? You don't commit to anything less, and keep looking until you get one. They aren't on every street corner and aren't available for long. There is no one place they all hang out either. It just doesn't work that way.
I've been with over 70 girls and this one was tied for 1st place.

As a man you better bring a lot to the table as well. She will expect equal SMV.

You gotta lasso that wild mustang, pardner

 

[The Duke]

You gotta lasso that wild mustang, pardner

Those wild ones are my problem.

 

[NealIRC]

To me, girls can divided into 2 types: church girls and non-church girls. You didn't specify religion? You want a girl that gets along with her parents? Try church girls?

Looks like my question got answered late.

Finding Christian girls is easy. You gotta go church hoping. If 1 church doesn't have to, go to another church 1 by 1.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

OP, go to Ft. Lauderdale, Tampa/St Pete, or some of the more tier 2 cities in the south. Miami is not good for white girls unless you want the most plastic gold digging wh0re out there.