Incoming Recession 2022/2023

[jaygreenb]

 

[BackInTheGame78]

What you’ve just written - That’s another way of not engaging with someone. It’s similar to calling someone a Troll. It’s rather cowardly.

You’re out of depth, dude. I feel bad for you. All you can do at this point is name call. I can’t have intelligent economic discussions with guys like you because you don’t understand the system you live in.

You have none of the education or required knowledge, or any of the critical thinking faculties, to see what Crypto is all about. And then fit into a wider picture for humanity’s future.

It’s either that (you’re really dumb) or you’re a very bad man and you actually want global communism because you benefit in some way. That wouldn’t surprise me either.

What you’ve just written - That’s another way of not engaging with someone. It’s similar to calling someone a Troll. It’s rather cowardly.

You’re out of depth, dude. I feel bad for you. All you can do at this point is name call. I can’t have intelligent economic discussions with guys like you because you don’t understand the system you live in.

You have none of the education or required knowledge, or any of the critical thinking faculties, to see what Crypto is all about. And then fit into a wider picture for humanity’s future.

It’s either that (you’re really dumb) or you’re a very bad man and you actually want global communism because you benefit in some way. That wouldn’t surprise me either.

 

[jaygreenb]

You’ve done the clown thing a few times now.

I actually like clowns. Good memories of the circus and scary clown stories like IT by Stephen King.

Anything else?

Or shall we keep this thread on topic?

If you love what you do then you never work a day in your life. Congrats clown.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Dude, you’re a regular circular firing squad.

Your need for ego validation is stellar, epic and oh so cliché.

You never fail to satisfy. One doesn’t even need to mention you and you respond as if a message was directed to you. That’s very feminine behavior coming from you you Alpha stud.

You’re a legend in your own mind.

I’m gonna sit back and watch you respond to us, it’s gonna be fun!

You’re the poster boy for Dunning-Krueger.

Regale me with your wisdom Pancake. I welcome it.

Pierce Govhammer wants you to use the government-invented term Fake News.

It’s amazing how threads like this expose the absolutely mindless and the communists.

Who decides what the Real News is Pierce? You? lol.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Dear Pan87,

It seems like you’ve really given this some thought. Thank you for your well thought out, erudite response.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, I know it seems right to you, and I know that you wholeheartedly believe it.

I am, however worried for you, so much bluster, anger, lashing out, have you considered talking to a professional about it?

Pierced Betahammer, your mask of “I’m too cool for school” has slipped. And you’ve descended into menstruation.

You aren’t successful. You couldnt possibly be with a rant like that.

You need self control in the business world. Emotional control.

This thread is largely about “how to be successful in a world that is about to screw us over big time with a communism bait-and-switch”

There ain’t nothing more important in the world than facing this future atm.

Pierced Betahammer, your mask of “I’m too cool for school” has slipped. And you’ve descended into menstruation.

You aren’t successful. You couldnt possibly be with a rant like that.

You need self control in the business world. Emotional control.

This thread is largely about “how to be successful in a world that is about to screw us over big time with a communism bait-and-switch”

There ain’t nothing more important in the world than facing this future atm.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Actually he won’t answer because he knows that the worst thing you can do to narcissist is to ignore them. See? Now he has YOU adjusting to HIS frame and talking about him. Hah

He won’t answer. Because it’s obviously not sustainable.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

No one said you were, re-read.

I'm not a narcissist...

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Don’t let him sidetrack you dude. Make him justify crypto. If he can’t, then he’s scamming you in a very serious way. He is trying to disinherit you of your wealth like a snake oil salesman. He would have received the death penalty not too long ago.

Dude. Focus. You’re letting him off the hook by allowing him to frame-steal.

This is not about narcissism. This is about men disseminating bad information (financial advice) to their fellow men on purpose. To ruin you. On purpose!

Imo they're acting on protecting their world views first and foremost. I don't think they're setting out to ruin anyone but at times it becomes collateral damage. We are in a perceptional war, due to a fundamental differences in how we think and perceive. Any evil is driven by fear. And the fear is having wasted significant time and resources acting on bad information.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Nope maybe I misunderstood the post I was replying to where I thought Pan was talking ABOUT backinthegame and why he wasn’t responding. Anyway no matter, it’s just not that important frankly.

p.s. I give a rat’s ass about crypto and blockchain, I know what it is but I don’t dabble in it or care enough to engage in the discussion you’re having about it so not sure where about where this misconception has come from.

toodles

Your statement was implying I was a narcissist, due to pan quoting my asking backinthegame a question... If backinthegame is ignoring a narcissist, its me, because I was the one that asked him something...

Though I knew what you meant and was just being pedantic

 

[BackInTheGame78]

@BackInTheGame78 What's your opinion on XMR's sustainability due to the lack of traceability?

Well, I think eventually they will create something that will allow some traceability...it's like an arms race...technology is developed that prevents something, then technology is developed that makes the previous technology either obsolete or not as effective as it once was.

Blockchain was built as a decentralized ledger available to the public, not as a way to hide transactions...in fact it was the exact opposite of hiding transactions.

XMR is interesting but how far it goes will be determined by how well it can adapt to technology that takes some sheen off of it's untraceability.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Don’t let him sidetrack you dude. Make him justify crypto. If he can’t, then he’s scamming you in a very serious way. He is trying to disinherit you of your wealth like a snake oil salesman. He would have received the death penalty not too long ago.

I think countries that have adopted it as legal tender, huge institutions that have spent tens or hundreds of millions of dollars to set up crypto divisions, the declaration of it as an asset class by said institutions, high level financial people saying crypto will overtake fiat within a decade and more and more merchants accepting it as forms of payment have done plenty to "justify" crypto.

If you wish to still be that ignorant as to what is happening in the world, you simply can't be helped.

It would akin to somebody screaming at you your house in on fire, the firetrucks being out front trying to hose your house down while trying to rescue you from the building, you watching your house burn all around you and then deciding to go lay down and go to sleep in your bed instead of evacuating.

That level of stupidity can't be helped by me or anyone else.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

There is another dynamic at play with this. Blackrock who owns a large share of just about every company is behind a lot of the corporate push, especially ESG. They are essentially another arm of the govt in many ways at this point. So it isn't only market forces pushing a lot of their decision making

I hear rumors of the depegging was due to a certain culprit. Not shocking regulations following.

 

[jaygreenb]

He won’t answer. Because it’s obviously not sustainable.

You don’t have to dig very deep before you discover how fvcked it all is.

I remember my mental alarm system triggered about 2.5 years ago when, I’m not joking, an Indian taxi driver was telling me about his crypto investments. This guy barely had any teeth. I clutched my wallet tightly to my chest.

I think the problem with these guys in this thread is they see an influencer post “buy Bitcoin” on Twitter and they obey. They are worse than chicks on Instagram, crypto bros on Twitter.

This why I know you are a liar and an idiot. 2.5 yrs ago there was no retail involved, it would be beginning of 2020 when btc was between 6-10k. The only people in this space where those that really understood it and ones building. All of retail was washed out at this point. If he was talking about it then it means he bought the entire bear market and made more money than you will ever see in your life. Today he is still up many multiples. It is very obvious to everyone with intelligence you are a fraud hence why they have all called you out.

 

[jaygreenb]

Some have, I work in invesment management and the majority do not see crypto as an asset class and most think it’s snake oil.

They may not be right, but I can say for the larger managers here, they are not putting clients into cryptocurrencies. Too volatile, too much risk.

However, I do note more crypto analysts being appointed so there is a slow but steady move towards it being looked at.

I’ve actually bought some based purely on hope and the low prices to make a quick buck.

I have a friend who is pushing me to but a meta verse coin. I’ve tried asking him why you can’t just use dollars to buy rights to plots in a metadome but I didn’t get a very good answer

What type of investment management, financial advisors? They aren't pushing it yet because there isn't a way or need for them to get their fee. It would be out of their scope of control. Imagine some of that changes with an ETF approval. Most advisors are glorified salesman in my experience.

Pretty much every major money manager has declared this is a new asset class. Fidelity, Goldman, Citadel, JP Morgan, Blackrock. As well some of the top investors in the world.

The vast majority of crypto is a money grab or scam, that doesn't discount the only several real use cases . There is literally no connection to the properties of Bitcoin comparatively. Bitcoin is the paradigm shift separating the power of money from the state. Everything else is at best a venture tech bet

 

[jaygreenb]

It was sometime in 2020 because it was just after the first lockdown.

People have made a lot of money from crypto. That’s not the point. You’re not understanding the scam.

It’s like the toxic loans in the USA in 2008, which allowed KFC cashiers to buy property. It’s all fake wealth. Crypto is fake wealth. What’s happened is that the Fed has printed trillions of dollars and it’s all gone into the stock market and crypto speculation. It’s all fake!

What is happening is that they are purposely murdering fiat by printing trillions of it. That’s why taxi drivers are getting rich. But it’s also why the price of fruits and vegetables is exploding. You can’t make everyone rich. That’s not how wealth works. Wealth is relative. You are rich if you have 1 dollar and everyone else has 20 cents. But if everyone has a dollar then we are in communism.

The goal here is to destroy fiat by printing it into oblivion, and then switch us to GovCoin.

It’s not that complicated dude. If you can’t understand simple scams like this then I hate to see what you’re like with female mind games.

Yeah, just pointing out the reoccurring pattern of you being a liar and a fraud. You make up stories and fake accomplishments to give yourself credibility.

 

[jaygreenb]

How does bitcoin do this better than monero?

It is more decentralized, secure and liquid. Having a public ledger is important for large nations and entities to be involved.

 

[jaygreenb]

You’re an Intellectual failure dude. Everything I’ve said is consistent and I never said people haven’t made money from crypto. I’m saying it’s fake money….just like the toxic bonds from 2008.

I see you as a KFC cashier with your 10 investment properties. Bank about to call in your loans and your dumbass is going to get flipped upside down with this shift.

The shift that’s going to happen for you is suddenly all your fiat is useless, your Bitcoin is banned, all your assets are confiscated and you’re issued with a GovCoin allowance. You get it every month, and then it resets. So you can never accumulate or save your GovCoin.

How about this. I will sign an NDA and give you 5k if you can verify who you are and what you have accomplished. Just need personal and corporate tax returns and ID. If you are who you say you are, I'll send immediately. I'll put an addendum I have to pay an additional 50k if I release any personal information to anyone else, deal?

 

[jaygreenb]

Why do you want to know who I am? Why can’t you focus on what I’m telling you?

Don’t you have any vague hint of recognition with anything I write? Does it seem possible or feasible to you?

You know that the people who run this world view you as a cattle, right? And it’s because you can’t figure this out.

Because you lie and that makes you untrustworthy. You also lack the experience to give your opinion any credibility. If you are telling the truth, that is an easy 5k. Just email your accountant and request copies, easy money,

 

[jaygreenb]

If what I’m saying is wrong, you should be able to focus on the argument and disprove the arguments.

If you want to know who I am, it’s because you’ve lost the argument and you want to go into personal attacks. Many guys on this forum have tried to dox me already. I’m familiar with it. I know what you want to do.

I have no interest in who you are. Like I said, your communication tells me your station in life.

Anonymity to me is important. For self protection if nothing else. You’ve shown yourself to be quite an emotional and dangerous wreck of a man. Angry and hurt men are very dangerous. I don’t deal with them.

Guys like me will only tell you this stuff if we are allowed to be anonymous. Saying this stuff publicly gets your excluded from the Game, or worse. It’s not in my interests at all to go public.

Sure lol honk honk

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Why do you want to know who I am? Why can’t you focus on what I’m telling you?

The religion of Consensus attracts both women and authoritarians alike.