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jaygreenb

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It’s all by design. There’s a plan to destroy the global economy and get everyone on UBI, as you say, which is just another word for Communism. It will be combined with extreme rationing, vaccine requirements and probably a forced sex-change. You refuse any of this and they just switch your account off.

Critically, you are never allowed to save your UBI (GovCoins). They reset every month. You’re a permanent slave.

We are all fvcked unless we wake up. There’s no escape and this global coup has been 100 years+ in the making. They have been slowly turning this world into One entity. They have also decided that only 500 million people can live in harmony with nature.

Who are these decision makers? The money printers.

If you have a money printer, you control reality.
Not everyone is screwed, just those that will be dependent on the govt and without the means to be flexible/relocate.
 

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Not everyone is screwed, just those that will be dependent on the govt and without the means to be flexible/relocate.
I'm a software engineer... I'll never be screwed. I could find a job within a day if I got fired and likely have several offers.
 

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I'm a software engineer... I'll never be screwed. I could find a job within a day if I got fired and likely have several offers.

There's a limit to the demand for software dev though, just like there is for anything. Just sayin'
 

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I'm a software engineer... I'll never be screwed. I could find a job within a day if I got fired and likely have several offers.
Right, the world will always need skilled people and producers, can't enslave everyone for the world to function.
 

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There's a limit to the demand for software dev though, just like there is for anything. Just sayin'
Not when you are actually good at what you do. So many average to below average devs and a lack of actual quality ones drives our demand skyhigh
 

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The game is rigged but that don't mean you have to play by the rules

I routinely shoplift items from the big supermarkets in my area .....they increased prices by 30% over night after recording record profits during the lockdowns

Sorry don't wash with me my income ain't increasing 30% somethings gotta give and that something is my willingness to act as a good little citizen

Also involved in varying degrees of tax avoidance

There are some very tough times coming and if anyone is in debt they are going to get destroyed as cheap credit ends and becomes extremely expensive

My advice do as our esteemed leaders do

Lie , cheat and steal from the system ;) dog eat dog world
 

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The game is rigged but that don't mean you have to play by the rules

I routinely shoplift items from the big supermarkets in my area .....they increased prices by 30% over night after recording record profits during the lockdowns

Sorry don't wash with me my income ain't increasing 30% somethings gotta give and that something is my willingness to act as a good little citizen

Also involved in varying degrees of tax avoidance

There are some very tough times coming and if anyone is in debt they are going to get destroyed as cheap credit ends and becomes extremely expensive

My advice do as our esteemed leaders do

Lie , cheat and steal from the system ;) dog eat dog world
Maybe you should be focusing on increasing your income rather than getting better at nefarious methods of stealing?

Just a thought...just a thought...
 

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The game is rigged but that don't mean you have to play by the rules

I routinely shoplift items from the big supermarkets in my area .....they increased prices by 30% over night after recording record profits during the lockdowns

Sorry don't wash with me my income ain't increasing 30% somethings gotta give and that something is my willingness to act as a good little citizen

Also involved in varying degrees of tax avoidance

There are some very tough times coming and if anyone is in debt they are going to get destroyed as cheap credit ends and becomes extremely expensive

My advice do as our esteemed leaders do

Lie , cheat and steal from the system ;) dog eat dog world
What lol If you have anything to lose this is horrendous advice.
 

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Funny how most that complain how things are, never have the nuts to take their stand. They just complain, and do what's told, and complain, and pay those taxes while complaining about unjust tax obligations...

If they have a food stamps type system in UK you could look into buying them from dope fiends for half price... Technically the dope fiends are the ones committing food stamp fraud.
Hate to break it to you but stealing a box of frosted flakes and a pack of twinkies isn't taking a stand. It's low level petty crime with minimal upside. If you are going to do something criminal at least do something with high upside ROI. If you want to have actual impact, develop yourself in to someone who has influence and resources, then take those resources outside the system. That can be gold, silver or bitcoin. Whatever your preference. Be sovereign and vote with your feet and your wallet.

Doing that low level crime is basically guaranteeing you will be a part of the UBI/slave class. Actually pretty sad that the population is becoming so nihilistic. Even though the world is a mess, there is a lot of opportunity out there for those willing to work for it.
 

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Hate to break it to you, but some people aren't financially in a place to be allocating resources outside the system. Once people get successful due to luck, they lose touch of reality, and think everyone has that capability. They don't... I know, I know it was all hard work and persistence etc.... Tell that to all the people out there who did work hard, and didn't get the break.. For every successful story like yours, there's 10 others of people failing even though they put in just as much effort as you.

Once one gets to a certain level of lacking resources, it's like quicksand. The deeper you go, the harder it is to get out. Maybe he's not in a position to "level up". It's hard when eating takes up a sizeable portion of your finances... At least he has the nuts to take some kind of action even if it is "petty".
I am nobody special in the big scheme of things, just an average small business owner. Starting a service business is very obtainable for many and is pretty low risk. I have had many many set backs, its just having the persistence and stubbornness to push through. The problem with those actions of crime is it can basically take away any of those potential opportunities in the future. A big part of getting there is avoiding obvious major mistakes that will forever put a limit on you or take you out of the game.
 

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Hate to break it to you, but some people aren't financially in a place to be allocating resources outside the system. Once people get successful due to luck, they lose touch of reality, and think everyone has that capability. They don't... I know, I know it was all hard work and persistence etc.... Tell that to all the people out there who did work hard, and didn't get the break.. For every successful story like yours, there's 10 others of people failing even though they put in just as much effort as you.

Once one gets to a certain level of lacking resources, it's like quicksand. The deeper you go, the harder it is to get out. Maybe he's not in a position to "level up". It's hard when eating takes up a sizeable portion of your finances... At least he has the nuts to take some kind of action even if it is "petty".
Very few people get successful due to luck. Was it lucky that I taught myself software engineering and grinded away at it for several years after I got home from work each day for free prior to getting hired professionally?

Was it luck that I went back to school full.time and worked full time for 2.5 years to obtain my CS degree?

Was it luck that I actively worked my ass off once hired and put myself in position to triple my salary in 6 years by aggressively switching jobs every year or two rather than staying comfy at one job?

People only see the end result they never see the many hours of hard work that led up to it. People unwilling to make hard, uncomfortable decisions in their own lives deem it luck when they see the results others who are willing to make those decisions have.

Choosing the easy, comfortable, resistant to change path in your life gives you the least opportunity for growth both personally, professionally and financially.

Funny how so many people in all different situations seem to get lucky after working their asses off for many years prior without much to show for it but simply never gave up. Perseverance, dedication, drive and desire will get you farther than you know.

Try it sometime.

Most people who complain about their lives and their jobs and their situations just like to hear themselves talk because when I ask what they have done to actively change any of it in the last 6 months, they have a blank look on their face and don't have anything to say.

The reason you are in whatever situation you are in today is because you put yourself there with your decisions you have made in your life.

Stop blaming anyone else, the government, your Mom, your girlfriend and start owning the decisions YOU made that led you there.

The good thing is you can also choose to extract yourself from that situation by making different decisions going forward. Most won't bother because it's easier to do nothing and just talk.

Kinda like we say with women. Actions >>>> Words
 
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If everyone stopped paying their utility bills watch how fvcking fast the wholesale price of energy would drop

If everyone started filling their petrol tanks and driving off without paying watch how fvcking fast the price of fuel would drop

The masses are indrocnocated idiots who think they are equal with the elite :rofl:

Literally everything you think you know about life is a fvcking lie or a social construct designed to keep you in your box

Do something to at least make an attempt of rebellion , rather than ask "

what are we going to do now the elite have caused yet another financial collapse to fvck us AGAIN "
 

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If everyone stopped paying their utility bills watch how fvcking fast the wholesale price of energy would drop

If everyone started filling their petrol tanks and driving off without paying watch how fvcking fast the price of fuel would drop

The masses are indrocnocated idiots who think they are equal with the elite :rofl:

Literally everything you think you know about life is a fvcking lie or a social construct designed to keep you in your box

Do something to at least make an attempt of rebellion , rather than ask "

what are we going to do now the elite have caused yet another financial collapse to fvck us AGAIN "
And some of us are lowlife scum
 

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What was luck, was finding your passion in life. All that hard work wasn't luck, but you said it yourself, "don't get in this field if you don't have a passion for it". What about all those developers that did it due to it being a safe bet, but they didn't have a passion for it, and got passed over for people like you. They worked hard at it, but didn't have the passion, so they were not as successful as you.

There you go with "hard work solves everything" mentality. What about the unplanned things in life that can affect success such as laws being changed, biological changes, etc.... Was that hard working audio enginner a lazy bum when they became deaf, and lost their passion for music. What about that hard working Master Brewer who slowly became an alcoholic and had to quit his passion? Having no skills or training in anything else, was he just a lazy bum the whole time?
I worked at an investment management firm all though my 20's then in 2009 I got laid off due the financial crisis. I thought everything I worked for and my career was over. That next year I took the 70k to my name and started a business in healthcare in an industry literally knew nothing about. I had to completely downsize my life to around 10k a year the first few years. I rented a room from someone to get my life as cheap as possible, only way I could make it work. I literally was the sales rep, accountant, on call person, scheduler, janitor and whatever other role that needed to be filled. I worked every day of the week for almost 5yrs in order to be able to scale up and get my debts paid off. Anything worthwhile is never easy and you can always change directions. You just have to have the will to do it. I really didn't start hitting my financial stride until my late 30's. That is when all the work and decisions I made started to compound and started making real progress.
 

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What was luck, was finding your passion in life. All that hard work wasn't luck, but you said it yourself, "don't get in this field if you don't have a passion for it". What about all those developers that did it due to it being a safe bet, but they didn't have a passion for it, and got passed over for people like you. They worked hard at it, but didn't have the passion, so they were not as successful as you.

There you go with "hard work solves everything" mentality. What about the unplanned things in life that can affect success such as laws being changed, biological changes, etc.... Was that hard working audio enginner a lazy bum when they became deaf, and lost their passion for music. What about that hard working Master Brewer who slowly became an alcoholic and had to quit his passion? Having no skills or training in anything else, was he just a lazy bum the whole time?
There aren't many people who are truly working as hard as they could if they are not passionate about what they are doing. Hard to be motivated and do whatever it takes when you hate your job and can't wait to leave every day.

Just like at the gym...most people think they are working far harder than they actually are.
 

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What if you didn't choose a field that allowed you to save that 70k? What if you you were laid off multiple times during the crisis in a low end factory job, and don't have savings? How would you climb out of that hole?
Accept that you made a series of decisions previously that put you in that position and then determine what you are going to do moving forward to get you out of that position and then act on it. The acting part is where most people fail.

There is virtually NOTHING in your life that happens to you that REQUIRES you to have to make a decision where you have no options. People only act like it does.

Maybe you couldn't save 70K but maybe you could have saved 10K. But you chose to want to eat out, or stop and have coffee every morning, or spend money on things you didn't need, etc.

The bottom line is everything you keep saying is in line with someone who is unwilling to take responsibility for their own choices in their life that have led to them being in the position they are in. Until you are willing to change that nothing is going to change for you.

Choosing to be in the field you are in a decision that YOU made.

Staying in that field when you realized you weren't happy with the amount of money you were making is a decision that YOU made.

Not going to back to school to get a degree in something that would allow you to switch career fields is a decision that YOU made.

Choosing to spend money on things instead of saving more of it is a decision that YOU made.

All of these decisions added up over many years explains why you are where you are right now. Stop making excuses for them and start owning them.
 
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What if you didn't choose a field that allowed you to save that 70k? What if you you were laid off multiple times during the crisis in a low end factory job, and don't have savings? How would you climb out of that hole?
You need to get into a field that pays well. I would say get into a trade school in one of the fields that pay. You're probably going to have to dedicate 3-5yrs to get to the level of skill to make good money. Nothing is going to be overnight but better to start now, time goes fast
 

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How do you recognize a field that pays well, that's a safe bet to invest your time in when you don't have any savings? I'm sure the developers that didn't have a passion for that field recognized it as paying well, though as backinthegame says they didn't have the passion, so they didn't advance to stability/financial success as he did because it's his passion.
Depends what your natural abilities and interests align with. If you are more hands on you can go with electrician, plumber, hvac etc. Call your local unions and ask how you get involved in those fields with school and apprenticeships. The trades have severe shortages and need people, wouldn't be surprised if many covered school costs. If you are more inclined to tech and computers I'm sure backinthegame can point you in the right direction

Hardly anyone has a job they are completely passionate about, you have to be pragmatic too and use it as a tool to get yourself in a good financial position. Then you will have more freedom to add what you are really passionate about.
 
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