True again, even if a black guy has a beta personality, he can still find some white guilt liberal woman or a mudshark to date. However, that's if his standards are really low. A black guy with higher standards will start to run in to issues.
A lot of the white guilt liberal women or mudshark White women are overweight women. When Indian/Indian-American men have sex with White women, they are more likely to be having sex with overweight White women.
I don't know a lot about Hispanic men and White women. Hispanic men are fortunate that Hispanic women are considered desirable. Many White men find Hispanic women attractive. Because Hispanic women are desirable, there's less motivation for Hispanic men to go outside their ethnicity. The biggest problem with Hispanic women is that there's a lot of single motherhood among Hispanic women. Additionally, I have seen some 30+ childless Hispanic women with bachelor's or advanced degrees mimic White women from those same categories.
This is the main issue for white men on the apps. This is why other than Chads, the edgy or artsie white men do better because they set themselves apart more.
White men need to either have a strong case that they are Top 10% male or be highly niched to succeed on apps.
A White man who isn't Top 10% or isn't strongly niched is better off focusing on social circle or approaching.
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@Mike32ct intelligent men that are analytical are not seen as unattractive due to these traits but due to the fact that they lack spontaneity. These types of men are less likely to provide women feelings of excitement and adventure simply because spontaneity is not a personality trait of theirs. With that said, a man should not feel that he has to constantly entertain a woman like a court jester. Side note, whenever I've heard other men talk about women that get bored easily it's never a good sign.
The spontaneity issue is legimate. In the 1980s, even Melinda French gave that feedback to Bill Gates as an initial rejection. If a mediocre woman with an advanced degree in the 1980s is telling an analytical STEM that, you know that it is an issue. Women do like feeling entertained, and analytical STEM type guys are often boring.
I'd say in the U.S./west the highest prevalence of inceldom would be with Asian and Indian men. A simple reason for this is that most women outside of their ethnic group, which constitutes the overwhelming majority of the population in the west, will just flat out not date them. Very few white women in the U.S would date an Indian or Asian man, these types of men would be better off going for a woman of their own race, though even they prefer white men if given the opportunity.
The typical White woman in the United States isn't interested in an East or South Asian man. Sometimes an East or South Asian man can get an overweight White woman and sometimes that's also the liberal White guilt White woman. It's a challenge for an East or South Asian man to get a White woman who is average in looks/weight or overall above average looking. This is true in both one night stands and in extended, committed relationships.
As for black and hispanic men compared to white men. From what I've seen in AZ, it's not difficult for even low quality and unattractive hispanic men to land a looks match female lol.
Often times, you'll see a blue collar/warehouse worker type Hispanic guy with a Walmart cashier type Hispanic woman.
I agree with your point about white women in that many of them are entitled and have far higher expectations than women of other races as a whole. I believe that this is especially the case for white women that grew up in upper middle class backgrounds, which is the norm for many parts of the U.S. This is going to heavily relate to how they were raised by their parents, and often times these women growing up were overindulged. Look at the sorority girls you'd see at ASU or the UofA, that's a fantastic example of what I'm talking about.
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The thing is, the whole red pill, black pill and all this other crap exists BECAUSE of the dating market being complete trash due to women's behavior towards men.
What I'm getting at is the modern dating market is far more difficult for men now than it has ever been and when large numbers of them are getting little to no success they naturally become frustrated. They then start looking up stuff on the internet about game and all of this other nonsense and eventually stumble upon some of these red pill forums where other men are venting their frustrations about experiences that they can relate to in some way or another. I do agree that some of the stuff on black pill and more extreme versions of this is very toxic but there is a reason these followings exist in the first place.
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Baby boomer males literally just needed to show up and they'd eventually get married and have children, it was incredibly unusual for them to be childless bachelors, it existed but they were not at all the norm. Many boomer men would be complete incels if they were to be young men in today's dating market.
This is true and a lot of the reason that Baby Boomer fathers who were present in their Millennial sons' lives had essentially zero impact in preparing their sons for the mating market of the 2000s-present.
Being a beta male wasn't horrible for a Boomer, unlike subsequent generations. Boomer betas could usually find wives and/or steady partners in their 20s/30s.
Women's expectations today are substantially loftier than that of their mothers, grandmothers, etc. A major part of this is due to the sheer abundance of options they have due to dating apps and social media. An average woman in a good sized metro could make a tinder profile and literally have dozens of men swipe right on her within a week. This woman would have more options in this short span of time than women of previous generations may have had in an entire lifetime. Ask any female you know that is on these apps and you'll see it for yourself, I personally can cite a few women that are very overweight and yet they literally have an entire harem of men to choose from.
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