I'm tired

[John-467]

^^^ Well Karma I tell u what.....one word I can spell is LAMEEEEE...and ummm after looking in the Dictionary I thank (yes I said thank) they pretty much describes you buddy.

Lol

 

[STR8UP]

Karma:

You suprise me.

MMMM, not sure if that name suits you with that post.

Are we sure where not going down the road of discrimination?

Also, what is your BEEF, with this guy?

Let me answer that one.

First off he's half assed retarded. Can't string two sentences together in his native language.

And on top of that it isn't enough for him to disrupt a civil discussion in another thread, he has to come to another UNRELATED thread and try to antagonize people enough to get THAT one closed as well.

Did you read his first post on this thread?

Also STR8UP, you have not answered my QUESTION.

I know you haven't and you KNOW IT TOO.

But you know what it's cool, you know the answer anyway.

dude....what question???? seriously

 

[penkitten]

i can see why you are tired.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Karma:

You suprise me.

MMMM, not sure if that name suits you with that post.

Are we sure where not going down the road of discrimination?

Also, what is your BEEF, with this guy?

Come on be truthful.

I don't give a sh!t if I surprise you, shock you, turn you green with envy, or make you cry. My job is not to have people like me but to give them the opportunity to self explore and grow. If I'm thrown into the bastard role so be it. Idiocy is idiocy. I wasn't stereotyping or racially profiling anyone but if you're going to talk ebonically I'm going to try to make you understand, in your native tongue, that which makes you look foolish. Love me or hate me, I'm still going to sleep better than a baby.

Also STR8UP, you have not answered my QUESTION.

I know you haven't and you KNOW IT TOO.

But you know what it's cool, you know the answer anyway.

And STR8UP does not have to answer anyone for anything. He is a free thinking, self reliant, grammatically sound man who speaks with vigor and clarity and with tremendous aplumb.

 

[Phyzzle]

Nice. Now I have a troll following me. At this rate I give it a few weeks till you're banned.

No, he won't. The admin actually gave up on banning him a few months ago. He has been banned between 20 and 30 times, but keeps using dummy I.P.'s to hack into this place to keep posting and posting and posting. Surprising it took this long to start spamming the MM. Poor guy needs a life outside this forum. A lot like Skip2mylou (assuming they are separate people.)

 

[STR8UP]

What a b!tch.

Tells me she is gonna buy me dinner and NEVER EVEN CALLS.

I went out and had a great time anyway, but that's beside the point. No more effort is going into this on my part. If she wants me she knows how to find me.

 

[Lunar Jim]

I've been back on the market just over a year now, doesnt seem to matter whether they are 25 or 45, if I meet them in the bar I work a part time job in or at my local bookstore, single or divorced, women are women.

Same sh1t, different toilet.

Cynical? Hell yeah. But you can only go by your own experience, I've literally had women falling over themselves telling me how much they are thinking about me one day & dumping me the next.

I've stopped even listening to the nice things now. If they say something nice, I'm thinking about the big game at the weekend. I dont want to be like that, I want to accept the compliment & reciprocate. Its difficult to explain, I dont really have the words, but I wonder if women say things with the expectation I will behave in a certain way.

Probably why I'm more 'successful' with women now than ever is I've stopped giving a sh1t. Its like they thinking 'ooh, tried that line, that didnt work, lets try something else'. I wonder if women are only interested in me because I'm not sticking to their script!

In my dark moments, I wonder if women even remember what they say sometimes, it seems its all about how they feel at that moment. Str8 chick flaked because, well, she felt like it, & that to her was reason enough.

It shouldnt be this hard, should it, finding a good woman that wants to bring something to the table. I found this place looking for some answers, it seems like I'm not alone.

Hope you get the job sorted Str8, I'm in the same boat working two jobs at the moment & theres nothing I can do about it except ride the storm out.

 

[grinder]

I think you are guilty of inductive reasoning: Of globalizing and generalizing from your current unpleasant experience with this chick to other chicks, even life itself.

I think the colloquial term for this is: MIND FVCK.

When what precious free time you have is spent (wasted) on this chick and the experience is exasperating at best, then it colors your entire experience, you perception, even your ability to think clearly.

I keep my own field and general journals and from this experience if I find myself writing more than a few hundred words on any one chick then this is a red flag that I am losing my frame to her, focusing too much energy on her.

If I meet a chick and move quickly and without any forethought into a zone that just feels natural I find I have no need to write anything in my journal about her. There is no conflict, no problem. There quite literally is nothing to write about.

 

[ketostix]

What a b!tch.

Tells me she is gonna buy me dinner and NEVER EVEN CALLS.

I went out and had a great time anyway, but that's beside the point. No more effort is going into this on my part. If she wants me she knows how to find me.

Str8up, I don't know the situation fully. But why didn't you call/text her to see what she was doing and to try to make plans with her? Perhaps you could've invited her to what you ended up doing last night and then took her back to your place or who knows what could've ended up happening.

When she said she wanted to buy you dinner and would call you, she might've meant it at the time at least. And when Saturday night rolled around, she might've still meant it but she didn't really mean she'd be the one to call you. She very well could've been sitting around wondering the same thing, wondering why you haven't called her. I know she said she'd be the one to call, but it's rare that a girl has been the one to call and finalize the plans even if she said she would IME.

I just get the sense that you're playing it really disinterested with her. Maybe too disinterested. And it's like two people, you and her, are playing the same game. Someone has to act. If you're at the point of intending to drop her anyway, what harm would it do to push a little and "make the ho say know"? Or at least push things to get a more clear answer. There's not much to lose.

As I said I don't know the situation fully and I could be off on this, but it's just the sense I get from what I do know about it, and is something to consider.

 

[STR8UP]

Str8up, I don't know the situation fully. But why didn't you call/text her to see what she was doing and to try to make plans with her? Perhaps you could've invited her to what you ended up doing last night and then took her back to your place or who knows what could've ended up happening.

When she said she wanted to buy you dinner and would call you, she might've meant it at the time at least. And when Saturday night rolled around, she might've still meant it but she didn't really mean she'd be the one to call you. She very well could've been sitting around wondering the same thing, wondering why you haven't called her. I know she said she'd be the one to call, but it's rare that a girl has been the one to call and finalize the plans even if she said she would IME.

I just get the sense that you're playing it really disinterested with her. Maybe too disinterested. And it's like two people, you and her, are playing the same game. Someone has to act. If you're at the point of intending to drop her anyway, what harm would it do to push a little and "make the ho say know"? Or at least push things to get a more clear answer. There's not much to lose.

As I said I don't know the situation fully and I could be off on this, but it's just the sense I get from what I do know about it, and is something to consider.

Dammit Keto! You always manage to find things I hadn't thought of and then I have to rethink it.

The fact that she is usually very enthusiastic whenever i talk to her would lead me to believe that you might be right about me not taking enough initiative, playing it too disinterested. But SHE did say that SHE would call me, and if she says something like that and I go and contact her I look a little anxious, don't you think? I suppose even at her suggestion for dinner it would be to my benefit to say "I will call YOU to set it up".

I mean, she is middle eastern, so she might have a little bit different idea of how the "mating dance" should play out. Maybe she wants to be "chased" a little?

Funny thing is, everytime I have seen her since the first night we hooked up she greets me and says goodbye with a kiss. Not a peck on the cheek type thing. In public, like something she would give a boyfriend. I usually don't get that from chicks I am casually dating.

I see what you are saying. If two people are doing the same thing there won't be any progress.

Maybe I will wait a couple of days and just shoot her a text saying "You owe me dinner. When and where?" Granted, that's leaving it up to her to plan, but it's based on a command by me.

I just don't want to let it go to sh!t over a technicality. I'm not really THAT interested, but enough so that if there's any hope I don't mind seeing what happens.

 

[ketostix]

Dammit Keto! You always manage to find things I hadn't thought of and then I have to rethink it.

The fact that she is usually very enthusiastic whenever i talk to her would lead me to believe that you might be right about me not taking enough initiative, playing it too disinterested. But SHE did say that SHE would call me, and if she says something like that and I go and contact her I look a little anxious, don't you think? I suppose even at her suggestion for dinner it would be to my benefit to say "I will call YOU to set it up".

I mean, she is middle eastern, so she might have a little bit different idea of how the "mating dance" should play out. Maybe she wants to be "chased" a little?

Funny thing is, everytime I have seen her since the first night we hooked up she greets me and says goodbye with a kiss. Not a peck on the cheek type thing. In public, like something she would give a boyfriend. I usually don't get that from chicks I am casually dating.

I see what you are saying. If two people are doing the same thing there won't be any progress.

Maybe I will wait a couple of days and just shoot her a text saying "You owe me dinner. When and where?" Granted, that's leaving it up to her to plan, but it's based on a command by me.

I just don't want to let it go to sh!t over a technicality. I'm not really THAT interested, but enough so that if there's any hope I don't mind seeing what happens.

Yes and even if she tries to strings you along again, you haven't lost that much face. So when you cut her off, you will be taking more away from her with you, you're takeaway should be more effective. The one problem I see is if you don't try to force her into a decisive move soon and you string it along too long , the window of opportunity can close and she'll lose interest and nothing likely will be effective.

 

[STR8UP]

Yes and even if she tries to strings you along again, you haven't lost that much face. So when you cut her off, you will be taking more away from her with you, you're takeaway should be more effective. The one problem I see is if you don't try to force her into a decisive move soon and you string it along too long , the window of opportunity can close and she'll lose interest and nothing likely will be effective.

Alright, so ONE MORE CHANCE on the possibility that she's one of those chicks who just doesn't know how or doesn't want to send the ball back over into my court until she gets served a few times.

 

[ketostix]

Alright, so ONE MORE CHANCE on the possibility that she's one of those chicks who just doesn't know how or doesn't want to send the ball back over into my court until she gets served a few times.

Yeah what I'm saying is there's a possibility she's willing but has to be confidentally led every step of the way. Like on Saturday, I thought it would've been a good idea to contact her and lead her to a meet up. And if she didn't come through even after you attempt to lead her, then she should been dropped. If she doesn't deliver the goods, at some point she has to be dropped. I think one more time where you confidently and directly try to convince and lead her to a meet up and see if she falters before dropping her is called for.

 

[Tazman]

I just don't want to let it go to sh!t over a technicality. I'm not really THAT interested, but enough so that if there's any hope I don't mind seeing what happens.

Based on her "actions", wouldn't you say she's not THAT interested either? Meaning if it were me, maybe I would push things a little to score some ass but go into it without any expectations of something more. I know the little games women play when trying not to seem too interested, but usually if they are more than luke warm they put in effort to make "something" happen, even if it means purposefully "coincidentally" running into you somewhere.

I would take it as disrespectful for someone to tell me they're going to take me out and that they'd call, only to avoid contact completely. Mixed signals are usually pretty reliable when it comes to low-interest don't you think? or do you even care at this point?

 

[MikeEdward1973]

Ahhhhh.....a vacation.....that would be re-invigorating to say the least.

I'm not working this much by choice. Basically it's either bust my ass beyond my physical limits or my life will be fukked up for a long, long time. Fortunately this is probably the worst of it.

You don't have to answer this, but mind if I ask what line of work you're in?

It sounds like what's going on there is having a really profound effect on your personal life. I know what that's like, so I was just curious.

 

[STR8UP]

You don't have to answer this, but mind if I ask what line of work you're in?

It sounds like what's going on there is having a really profound effect on your personal life. I know what that's like, so I was just curious.

Unfortunately i am self employed. I own a retail business and some real estate. I say unfortunately because when you do what I do you gotta be prepared to take the bad with the good, no matter how bad the bad is.

 

[STR8UP]

OKaaaayyyyy........

Called up the AW today, as this was my first day off in awhile and i was looking for someone to get some dinner with. chilled with her for awhile and she started talking about the Lebanese girl. Interestingly she was able to shed some light on the subject for me.

I don't bring up this other chick around the AW. One reason is that I just don't talk about stuff like that to most people. The other reason is that I was still unsure of if she was cool with it or not, despite the fact that she would have no reason not to be.

Anyway, soon after I got to her house the AW says, "Sooooo.....I hear you have been hanging out with my friend lately. What's up with that??"

I didn't really answer, just tried to feel her out for what SHE had heard, but doesn't look like it was anything more than a passing convo the two had about her hanging out with me.

I blew it off, but later on in the night she again brought up her friend.

This time she talked about how she was upset that she didn't show up to her birthday party that was planned specifically around the friends schedule.

She then proceeds to tell me that this chick seems to be hung up on her ex husband FROM LIKE 7 YEARS AGO, who used her to get a green card, left her for some other woman who could have children (I guess the Lebanese girl can't have kids) and ran up her credit cards and moved out of the country.

Interesting!

So I guess when she was out of town a couple of weeks ago she met up with the ex husband, and now she thinks he is going to leave his current wife and kids to get back with her!

Are chicks REALLY that stupid??

Wait, don't answer that....I already know.

So.......there's the reason why I couldn't put my finger on what was up with her. Hot then lukewarm.

I've said it before. A woman usually has one man she "wants", another man she shares intimacy with if the man she "wants" is not available, and numerous AFC orbiters that serve to prop up her fragile ego with any attention and validation the two "main" guys don't provide for her.

See, all along I got the feeling that there was another man involved, but I didn't get the impression that she was necessarily dating someone else. Turns out I was right on the money.

So now one part of me says "Ah HA! Now I know what I am dealing with and what good can come of it! WALK AWAY!"

Another part of me says, "Okay, no reason to give up. This chick is living a FANTASY that will never come true. Proceed forward, get what you can, and take it one step at a time".

Another thing she said, which she sort of mentioned in the past, is that you can't make plans with this chick cause she's unreliable. It all falls into place....

Any thoughts?

 

[grinder]

Oneitis

 

[STR8UP]

Oneitis

I'm assuming that was a joke.

 

[grinder]

Meant to wake you up. Too much thinking! Cut it out. Too much focus on someone who deserves it not.