I'm tired

[STR8UP]

Literally and figuratively.

Literally in that I have had maybe three days off in the past six months. 65-70 hour work weeks back to back SUCK.

Figuratively in that I'm at a point where I don't want to deal with any women crap, even if it's a normal part of the process. I almost don't have enough energy to socialize with my guy friends who don't require any maintenance!

And both of these are interlinked. If I had more of a "life" then working around someone's schedule and poor time etiquette wouldn't be such a big deal.

I have kept the Lebanese chick I was seeing on the burner. She is working two jobs for the holidays, so add that to my fukked up schedule and it's tough to make anything happen.

Went out with her last week and had a great time. At the end of the night she tells me that she wants to buy me dinner next Saturday (which is tomorrow) and all but came out and said she was planning to spend the night.

So I made plans to take Sunday off, which I need anyway, but it was partially because I was planning on her staying over.

Texted her last night. She responds late today, saying she is in my neighborhood and asking about stopping by my work to say hi. No prob, we BS for awhile, she gets ready to leave and says something about how she gets off work at 8 tomorrow night. I'm thinking "Ok, so were gonna lock this down", but then she says something about her supposed to be going to a Christmas party with a friend, and that she wants to get out out of it, but she will call me tomorrow and touch base.

I didn't even flinch, just said "yea, talk to you later", she kisses me goodbye and leaves. But after she leaves I'm thinking "WTF.....she offers to buy me dinner then tells me she might have to go to a Christmas party instead??"

I don't know if she's planning on meeting up AFTER the party if she goes (or even if it's legit in the first place), but as I have said before, when I make plans I keep them. Even if I made plans with a barely average looking chick who was barely into me I would follow through. I just don't understand this loosey goosey concept of time and keeping plans.

Tomorrow night a friend of mine who knows half of the hot women in town is having a birthday party in a restaurant/bar right located right on the first floor of the building where I live. We're talking a party that is probably 60-70% HOT women, right outside my front door. DOZENS of hotties.

I also have a female friend who invited me to join up with her and her friends (some of whom are also easy on the eyes as well) tomorrow night. They will be partying within a three block radius of my place.

So if the Lebanese chick flakes, it isn't like I have nothing to do. Hell, most guys would probably tell me to ditch HER in a case like this.

But I'm f'in TIRED.

I didn't plan to spend the night trying to socialize with a bunch of people. I know if I hit up the party and meet up with the ladies I'll likely have a great time, but I had pretty much resolved myself to dinner and kicking back on the couch.

Maybe I'll just say "fukk everyone" and sit on my ass at home like I do most weeknights. If I did that I would be wondering what I'm missing while all of my friends are out having a good time.

I just can't win.

 

[Phyzzle]

I didn't even flinch, just said "yea, talk to you later", she kisses me goodbye and leaves. But after she leaves I'm thinking "WTF.....she offers to buy me dinner then tells me she might have to go to a Christmas party instead??"

Dam, I remember moaning about this before! You are surely starting to see things from my point of view now!!

You are a 35 year old man who works 6.9 days a week; it's time to learn how to make a plan. You can't just keep depending on a social life to fall into your lap at 6:47 am on a Tuesday when you suddenly have some free time. Even when it does, you may not be prepared, or have enough energy for it, if you don't see it coming.

Don't you see that it's getting serious now? You pulled strings to get Sunday off, but you're just so used to informally futzing around that you've wasted your time.

At the end of the night she tells me that she wants to buy me dinner next Saturday (which is tomorrow) and all but came out and said she was planning to spend the night.

Honestly, thought experiment: what if right then you had said, "well, I can free up Saturday at 7pm. Come to my place then." Seriously, what would have happened if you said that? Would she start to have heart palpitations "OMG, you are so anal and formal! Go to Hell!" Dude, that won't happen. Just make a plan. Don't be afraid. Nothing bad will happen. It will be okay.

 

[KarmaSutra]

All risk should come with a reward. What reward are you reaping by killing yourself on a 70 hour back to back to back workweek? Is it monetary? If so it's understandable and worthy IF you're stockpiling it away for the near future. If not, stop reevaluate and reassess those areas which lie in importance.

Women should never, ever be a goal man must attain. It should be learned through progression and understanding himself.

You need a fvcking vacation brother.

 

[Last Man Standing]

I suggest you find a woman and quit tangling yourself up with hors who sap your time, energy, and mind!!

 

[STR8UP]

Honestly, thought experiment: what if right then you had said, "well, I can free up Saturday at 7pm. Come to my place then." Seriously, what would have happened if you said that? Would she start to have heart palpitations "OMG, you are so anal and formal! Go to Hell!" Dude, that won't happen. Just make a plan. Don't be afraid. Nothing bad will happen. It will be okay.

As many damn times as people do this kind of sh!t I still haven't learned.

Same situation last time with this chick. Last time she suggested we hang out. No specific activity. Thought it was a done deal, obviously it wasn't. This time she says she wants to buy me dinner, so I didn't think much of it. I mean, who offers to buy dinner then makes other plans?

The rest of the world, that's who, cause this isn't an isolated case, and it isn't just women.

Don't know if that was a joke, but I'm not afraid of locking down plans. It's just that I'm the kind of person who is true to his word, so I take for granted that other people will have the same courtesy. And I understand that things come up. But the people who make plans with three different people then pick what they want to do at the last minute piss me off. Maybe if I can't beat 'em I need to join 'em. That would eliminate any problems, no?

 

[STR8UP]

All risk should come with a reward. What reward are you reaping by killing yourself on a 70 hour back to back to back workweek? Is it monetary? If so it's understandable and worthy IF you're stockpiling it away for the near future. If not, stop reevaluate and reassess those areas which lie in importance.

Women should never, ever be a goal man must attain. It should be learned through progression and understanding himself.

You need a fvcking vacation brother.

Ahhhhh.....a vacation.....that would be re-invigorating to say the least.

I'm not working this much by choice. Basically it's either bust my ass beyond my physical limits or my life will be fukked up for a long, long time. Fortunately this is probably the worst of it.

Three months ago I was set to be able to start taking a day off every week, then my business partner fractured a vertebrae in his neck in a car accident and was in a brace and out of work up until last week. That not only meant that I couldn't take a day off, but also that I had to take on his work load as well. Now that he's back at work I have to play catch up, AND we are going into busy season.

This last year and a half has been awful. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. And one of the really bad things about it is that my social life hasn't been the same. it really takes a the edge off when you are able to get out and hang with friends a couple of times a week, not to mention being able to have any kind of a relationship with a woman.

 

[joekerr31]

str8up, im gonna lay some gospel on you brotha and i hope you listen to it.

i believe that your number one problem is that all the chics you are gaming all seem to be the partying type. these are women in their 20s and 30s who haven't grown up.

i think, because of the social circle you run in, that these are the chics that you notice.

i think you need to start opening your eyes to different types of women. perhaps quieter ones. they are everywhere. on the elevator, in the grocery store, etc.

because what you need is a solid, reliable woman. and i don't think you are brushing elbows with such women in your work or social life.

now the other thing i wish you'd work on is your negative attitude about women. do not get me wrong, your observations are mostly correct as they apply to a certain TYPE of woman. but they are incorrect as they apply to all women!

i can tell you from your posts that you are a good human being. i think you are a reliable guy who wouldn't screw a friend over and would help someone out if they needed it.

i think your major problem is that you don't believe what you are looking for exists and that in your present social circles it doesn't.

but i really wish you would start to believe that there are good women out there. not every woman has banged 25 guys believe it or not. not every woman is a gold digging ego-based scatter brain.

there are GREAT women out there. but now that we are in our 30s, this women are often sort of shy, dress more casually, etc. - they aren't ugly, but they don't advertise their goods like the floosies do. they aren't looking to get as many guys hard as they can during their day so that they can still feel like they are worth something.

i think you've got so many things going against you right now. your burning yourself out at work. you seem surrounded by floosies. your social circle seems to be filled with male floosies as well.

you need to find a way to cut back on the work a tad. you need to start looking at women who aren't like the women you typically hang out with. find the more refined ones. and you need to believe that the woman for you is out there. you need to say to life (gawd that sounds like such new age bullsh*t) "I'm ready for a good woman."

are you ready dude? do you still want the party hot bimbo or are you ready for a REAL woman?

if you are ready, then wake up every morning and say to life "im ready for a great woman! don't keep me waiting to long."

a strange thing happens when you wake up and 1) know what you want and 2) believe you will get it. somehow, someway, it comes your way.

but you have to really know what you want and really believe you'll get it. you can't go out there thinking 'ya that woudl be great, IF such a woman existed. but she doesn't, so why am i going to fool myself into thinking she does."

anyway, im just throwing this out there. hopefully you don't take offense to any of my comments. i think you are a great guy and i hate the fact that you spend so much time around a bunch of floosies and then getting down that you can't find a quality woman.

 

[joekerr31]

also, one other thing. please be careful (i know i have to be) about getting down on being in your mid 30s.

its tough, no matter what anyone says, to have been in the 'dating' world for 15 years and to have never found a gold nugget. standing in the river for 15 years, mining for gold, breaking your back, and only finding fools gold, never the real thing, is damn discouraging.

BUT, try to remember that you are better off than if you had married, had some kids, and then got divorced. or if you had found your true love and then she died of cancer or got hit by a car. or a myriad of 10,000 other horrific things that happen to people.

or look at my problem. my problem is the opposite of yours. i've mined for gold and found actual gold nuggest probably 6 or 7 times in my life. and each time i tossed the nugget back. crazy eh?

now im 33 and im thinking 'what if i never find another nugget?!!"

but then i remind myself, that life is simply an 'experience'. my experience has been such that i wasn't ready to settle down until now. for better or worse that's how the cards were delt.

some people get really horrible experiences and then die. others hit the jackpot. but whatever the case, all you can ever do is go with the flow - experience the experience.

as tough as your life is, its a 1,000 times better than many people in this world have it. right now, as we speak, some 18 year old chic is letting some 250 pound 45 year old greasy italian slam his d*ck in her for a 100 bucks.

life can be worse my friend.

anyway, the clock is far from running out. you're really only in the second quarter of your adult life - its not even half time yet!

so chin up, go easy on yourself and please STOP and really think about what you would like from life.

cuz im telling you, there are lots of great women out there who are sitting there going 'why are there no good guys out there?!!!" now, yes, the b*tch women are also saying that! but my point is that the b*tch women won't appreciate who you are dude, but the good women will, and they are out there.

but you gotta learn how to spot them. maybe you need to change up your venues a bit.

start stopping in at the local starbucks on the way home. or stop in at the local bookstore once a week. you need to start going to different locales so that your chances of bumping in to a different kind of woman increases.

anyway, don't let life get you down. hey, your 35 and your d*ck still works, so as far as im concerned you're still in the game!

 

[RedPill]

You are pushing yourself to achieve something that most never will. Most lack the balls to take the kind of risks you're taking, and the mental strength to continue on with it despite the seemingly endless obstacles and deviations from the plan.

If it's at all possible, take one day a month and do nothing but assess where you're at with the progression of your project, and make sure it's still congruent with your personal reasons for launching it. I'm sure you have a vision and a plan to circle back to.

I might also suggest to be more selective with your time and energies. Not that I have any great insight into your life, but you do post here quite frequently and seem to allocate a fair amount of your mental energy to petty people dramas - both your own and others' on here. Since time and energy outside of working in your business are at a premium for you right now, I would advise you to guard those vital resources very carefully. They're like precious drops of water in a hot desert right now.

There will come a time, when your project is sufficiently capitalized and you can wean it off of you, where you can return to a more "sane person" lifestyle. At the end of the day, what means more to you - the temporary sacrifices in your personal life, or the life-altering rewards of climbing this mountain? The chicks, the booze, the scene - it'll all be there when you return, even if that isn't for a couple years. There's no shame in disappearing to take on a meaningful journey. At least, I assume and hope this project has serious meaning for you.

Believe me I can empathize with your situation. Do absolutely everything within your current capacity to ward off the burnout.

 

[aliasguy]

str8up, im gonna lay some gospel on you brotha and i hope you listen to it.

i believe that your number one problem is that all the chics you are gaming all seem to be the partying type. these are women in their 20s and 30s who haven't grown up.

i think, because of the social circle you run in, that these are the chics that you notice.

i think you need to start opening your eyes to different types of women. perhaps quieter ones. they are everywhere. on the elevator, in the grocery store, etc.

because what you need is a solid, reliable woman. and i don't think you are brushing elbows with such women in your work or social life.

now the other thing i wish you'd work on is your negative attitude about women. do not get me wrong, your observations are mostly correct as they apply to a certain TYPE of woman. but they are incorrect as they apply to all women!

i can tell you from your posts that you are a good human being. i think you are a reliable guy who wouldn't screw a friend over and would help someone out if they needed it.

i think your major problem is that you don't believe what you are looking for exists and that in your present social circles it doesn't.

but i really wish you would start to believe that there are good women out there. not every woman has banged 25 guys believe it or not. not every woman is a gold digging ego-based scatter brain.

there are GREAT women out there. but now that we are in our 30s, this women are often sort of shy, dress more casually, etc. - they aren't ugly, but they don't advertise their goods like the floosies do. they aren't looking to get as many guys hard as they can during their day so that they can still feel like they are worth something.

i think you've got so many things going against you right now. your burning yourself out at work. you seem surrounded by floosies. your social circle seems to be filled with male floosies as well.

you need to find a way to cut back on the work a tad. you need to start looking at women who aren't like the women you typically hang out with. find the more refined ones. and you need to believe that the woman for you is out there. you need to say to life (gawd that sounds like such new age bullsh*t) "I'm ready for a good woman."

are you ready dude? do you still want the party hot bimbo or are you ready for a REAL woman?

if you are ready, then wake up every morning and say to life "im ready for a great woman! don't keep me waiting to long."

a strange thing happens when you wake up and 1) know what you want and 2) believe you will get it. somehow, someway, it comes your way.

but you have to really know what you want and really believe you'll get it. you can't go out there thinking 'ya that woudl be great, IF such a woman existed. but she doesn't, so why am i going to fool myself into thinking she does."

anyway, im just throwing this out there. hopefully you don't take offense to any of my comments. i think you are a great guy and i hate the fact that you spend so much time around a bunch of floosies and then getting down that you can't find a quality woman.

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Although what you've written here sounds good, and I wish it were true, the grocery store girls and the chicks from church and the underdressed, quiet girls are JUST as nutty and inscrutable as party girls.

"Believing" that you will get what you want won't get you there. That's wishful thinking, ala "the secret"/"the law of attraction."


you are correct that not all women are scatterbrained floozies with daddy issues. But almost EVERY woman will provide a man with significant challenges. That's just the way it is. That's life.

STR*UP is, apparently, moving in a social circle with a SLIGHTLY higher incidence of "crazy" women. But, I don't believe that the incidence of "problem" women is so very much higher in his social group that any other.


STR*UP may have to face a little more OBVIOUS insanity than most guys. But, that doesn't mean that the rest of us are free of the burden or difficult women.

It's not like STR8UP will suddenly be free of female goofiness if he restricts himself to conservative women he meets in a record store or at church. I think that relatively "straight" women provide just about the same level of difficulty. And sometimes, I think that they are even WORSE, because it can all be so "under the radar."

And to STR*UP directly --- you DO sound tired. I think this Lebanese chick thing is messing up your head. You seem to be abandoning your own rules. Why let her monopolize your only free day without a firm comittment to an encounter.


Best to you STR8UP.

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[STR8UP]

Last post before I gotta get some sleep

str8up, im gonna lay some gospel on you brotha and i hope you listen to it.

i believe that your number one problem is that all the chics you are gaming all seem to be the partying type. these are women in their 20s and 30s who haven't grown up.

While there is some truth to this statement, this particular girl isn't a party girl. When she goes out, sometimes she has a bit to drink, yea, but honestly, whenever she talks about getting together she wants to do the low key thing. I don't know her THAT well, but the impression I get (that is confirmed by her best friend) is that she doesn't get out that much.

i think you need to start opening your eyes to different types of women. perhaps quieter ones. they are everywhere. on the elevator, in the grocery store, etc.

because what you need is a solid, reliable woman. and i don't think you are brushing elbows with such women in your work or social life.

You know, it's funny you say this, cause I thought about posting about this recently.

there is a lady that works at my bank. I say "lady" because "chick" just doesn't seem fitting.

She is probably in her late 30's, divorced maybe a year or a year and a half ago, no kids that I know of. She is what I would consider to be "attractive".

The Saturday before Halloween I was pulling into the bank to make a deposit right as she was leaving. She beeped her horn to get my attention, and I went over to her car and talked to her for a few minutes.

I joked with her asking if she was going out that night and dressing up. I told her I was probably going to this one place downtown where there was a costume contest. She said "No, I'm not dressing up, but I was looking for something like that to do tonight".

Now if that wasn't an invitation to ask her out, i don't know what is.

But the thing is, I am really not attracted to her.

As I said, she is an attractive girl, but there is something about her that just doesn't push my buttons.

I can't explain it, because she is feminine, which is rare, and she is a very nice person overall. I think it might have to do with the fact that she is a very conservative, bordering on prudish. i don't know her that well, and she might be an absolute FREAK for all I know, but she just doesn't turn me on. Plus, she is older than I generally look for.

Now if I were REALLY looking to get involved with someone who might potentially make a good wife, and I wasn't concerned about her being a sex goddess, this is the kind of woman i would probably go for. But you can't force attraction. I feel like I wouldn't be satisfied with a woman like this, and it isn't just the fact that she is conservative. the attraction just isn't there.

now the other thing i wish you'd work on is your negative attitude about women. do not get me wrong, your observations are mostly correct as they apply to a certain TYPE of woman. but they are incorrect as they apply to all women!

This is one area where I have to take issue with your opinion.

Yea, there ARE women out there who would make great partners. But for all intents and purposes, they are so few and far between that you might as well generalize when you talk about women.

I had one of these women in the past. Do I regret that I lost her? No. Why not? Because I was 25 years old when I started dating her, she was 20. I didn't know what I wanted and wasn't ready to settle down anyway. It was a life experience.

But I have pretty much resolved myself to never getting married. If I find the needle in the haystack, hey, that's great. But living in the USA in 2007 I don't hold my breath for what would basically be a miracle. Maybe it also has to do with where I live, I don't know, because I have lived here my entire adult life. I just feel like the odds are stacked against ALL of us, and I refuse to get my hopes up for something that might never happen.

you need to find a way to cut back on the work a tad. you need to start looking at women who aren't like the women you typically hang out with. find the more refined ones. and you need to believe that the woman for you is out there. you need to say to life (gawd that sounds like such new age bullsh*t) "I'm ready for a good woman."

I wish I could do something about the work thing, but at this point it isn't an option.

With women.....I look around and see the party girls you mentioned. I also see the pretentious silicone bimbos. Around here there isn't much in between, unless you're looking for trailer trash or ghetto b!tches. Sad, but that's what I see.

anyway, im just throwing this out there. hopefully you don't take offense to any of my comments. i think you are a great guy and i hate the fact that you spend so much time around a bunch of floosies and then getting down that you can't find a quality woman.

No offense taken whatsoever I come to this site partially because I learn about myself through the opinions of others.

Here's to "quality" women!

 

[STR8UP]

I might also suggest to be more selective with your time and energies. Not that I have any great insight into your life, but you do post here quite frequently and seem to allocate a fair amount of your mental energy to petty people dramas - both your own and others' on here.

Believe it or not, this is one of the only stress outlets that I can fit into my life right now.

Sad to say but picking apart the inner workings of women is just about my only hobby right now.

 

[jonwon]

Literally and figuratively.

Literally in that I have had maybe three days off in the past six months. 65-70 hour work weeks back to back SUCK.

Figuratively in that I'm at a point where I don't want to deal with any women crap, even if it's a normal part of the process. I almost don't have enough energy to socialize with my guy friends who don't require any maintenance!

And both of these are interlinked. If I had more of a "life" then working around someone's schedule and poor time etiquette wouldn't be such a big deal.

I have kept the Lebanese chick I was seeing on the burner. She is working two jobs for the holidays, so add that to my fukked up schedule and it's tough to make anything happen.

Went out with her last week and had a great time. At the end of the night she tells me that she wants to buy me dinner next Saturday (which is tomorrow) and all but came out and said she was planning to spend the night.

So I made plans to take Sunday off, which I need anyway, but it was partially because I was planning on her staying over.

Texted her last night. She responds late today, saying she is in my neighborhood and asking about stopping by my work to say hi. No prob, we BS for awhile, she gets ready to leave and says something about how she gets off work at 8 tomorrow night. I'm thinking "Ok, so were gonna lock this down", but then she says something about her supposed to be going to a Christmas party with a friend, and that she wants to get out out of it, but she will call me tomorrow and touch base.

I didn't even flinch, just said "yea, talk to you later", she kisses me goodbye and leaves. But after she leaves I'm thinking "WTF.....she offers to buy me dinner then tells me she might have to go to a Christmas party instead??"

I don't know if she's planning on meeting up AFTER the party if she goes (or even if it's legit in the first place), but as I have said before, when I make plans I keep them. Even if I made plans with a barely average looking chick who was barely into me I would follow through. I just don't understand this loosey goosey concept of time and keeping plans.

Tomorrow night a friend of mine who knows half of the hot women in town is having a birthday party in a restaurant/bar right located right on the first floor of the building where I live. We're talking a party that is probably 60-70% HOT women, right outside my front door. DOZENS of hotties.

I also have a female friend who invited me to join up with her and her friends (some of whom are also easy on the eyes as well) tomorrow night. They will be partying within a three block radius of my place.

So if the Lebanese chick flakes, it isn't like I have nothing to do. Hell, most guys would probably tell me to ditch HER in a case like this.

But I'm f'in TIRED.

I didn't plan to spend the night trying to socialize with a bunch of people. I know if I hit up the party and meet up with the ladies I'll likely have a great time, but I had pretty much resolved myself to dinner and kicking back on the couch.

Maybe I'll just say "fukk everyone" and sit on my ass at home like I do most weeknights. If I did that I would be wondering what I'm missing while all of my friends are out having a good time.

I just can't win.

What is your objective STR8UP, because i have a hard time following you.

What is it you wanted from this chick?

Karma:
Women should never, ever be a goal man must attain. It should be learned through progression and understanding himself.

Golden<<<<<

 

[STR8UP]

What is your objective STR8UP, because i have a hard time following you.

What is it you wanted from this chick?

Same thing I want from everyone else....a little respect for my time.

If you are asking if I want a relationship or a fukk buddy or whatever....well that remains to be seen but at this point she isn't looking like girlfriend material.

I'm about half tempted at this point to stop putting any effort into it. Although I still think she's interested, I'm not gonna sit around and play second fiddle to whatever else she has going on in her life. If tells me she's gonna buy me dinner and makes up excuses she's obviously not THAT into me. The scale is beginning to tip toward nexting. Oh well, they're a dime a dozen, no big loss. She ain't the only chick who might want me to bust a nut across her nose

 

[John-467]

Lol I'm still lost?

If it's all about being the Good Gene guy mixed with the Good Dad guy....strup don't you have all of those qualities?

Then why is your BYTCH dissing you?

hahahah....you sure she's not on my Voicemail to call back? lol

 

[jonwon]

I'm not gonna sit around and play second fiddle to whatever else she has going on in her life. If tells me she's gonna buy me dinner and makes up excuses she's obviously not THAT into me.



no big loss.


She ain't the only chick who might want me to bust a nut across her nose

Your making LEAPS AND BOUNDS

Nice.

But you still have not answered the question, you have skitted past it.

 

[STR8UP]

Lol I'm still lost?

If it's all about being the Good Gene guy mixed with the Good Dad guy....strup don't you have all of those qualities?

Then why is your BYTCH dissing you?

hahahah....you sure she's not on my Voicemail to call back? lol

Nice. Now I have a troll following me. At this rate I give it a few weeks till you're banned.

Now shoo boy.....

 

[STR8UP]

Your making LEAPS AND BOUNDS

Nice.

But you still have not answered the question, you have skitted past it.

What was the question? What do I want from her? I thought I did answer that.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Lol I'm still lost?

If it's all about being the Good Gene guy mixed with the Good Dad guy....strup don't you have all of those qualities?

Then why is your BYTCH dissing you?

hahahah....you sure she's not on my Voicemail to call back? lol

'Dis aint be how mens be tawkin' do it!"

This is how you sound you fvcking jackass. Turn your Yankees lid around the right way, pull your fvcking pants up and then wash that nasty ass wifebeater. Then follow that up with reading a dictionary to work on your vocabulary. Then come back and speak like a man to other men.

 

[jonwon]

'Dis aint be how mens be tawkin' do it!"

This is how you sound you fvcking jackass. Turn your Yankees lid around the right way, pull your fvcking pants up and then wash that nasty ass wifebeater. Then follow that up with reading a dictionary to work on your vocabulary. Then come back and speak like a man to other men.

Karma:

You suprise me.

MMMM, not sure if that name suits you with that post.

Are we sure where not going down the road of discrimination?

Also, what is your BEEF, with this guy?

Come on be truthful.

Also STR8UP, you have not answered my QUESTION.

I know you haven't and you KNOW IT TOO.

But you know what it's cool, you know the answer anyway.