If a man is born gay, can a man be born a pedophile?

[Alle_Gory]

Whoa. You're good. You found me out. I'm a member of an organization called "The Others". We are responsible for all the things you call "conspiracy theories". You're right, they are not theories, they are solid fact. You must be very smart to be able to see our master plan everywhere. We control everything from the earth's magnetic field to the color of your cereal in the morning.

But we can't let you get the word out, so our operatives will label you as a loon, crazy. Whenever someone disagrees with you, they are an operative of our organization.

if man was born pedophile and not aborted then he or she should be executed via public hanging

You are completely correct. A man can be a he or a she. Women are another conspiracy theory. There are no women, only men posing as women.

Now let me also note that majority of elites are pedophiles. I'll give you some names, George Soros, Zbigniew Brzezinski.

Yes they are and we like to keep things very quiet about that. You see yet through another veil. A worthy adversary.

The reason you are being asked to think and morally judge and get feminized about such low lives is because that's where they are taking it.

You are right. We have intoduced morality and thinking as a form of brainwashing. People with closed minds are very hard to manipulate. But if we force them to think for themselves and judge for themselves, they will think for us... it's all very complicated but I'm sure you'll figure it out.

For those bastards it's a pleasure to **** a goyim boy or girl. Take a .50 and blow their brains out!

GOYIM Boys, that project isn't even finished yet. Someone leaked the information far too early. I hope it's not someone close to you, they have already been taken care of.

 

[Boxer]

I personally believe that pedophilia is a Sociology issue. The environment the person was brought up in basically turns their mind into a pedophile. Pedophilia is the attraction to a prepubescent human (normally younger then 10 years old) So pedophilia itself is not really a crime, acting on urges is though. Germany is starting to get it right. While imprisonment Germany re-socialize pedophiles basically to cure them of their attracting to prepubescent children giving them a much shorter jail sentence then the US does. The faster they are fixed, the faster they can be released.

 

[jafyk]

While this is true about some things, it's not true for everything. Genetics help define your appearance, your blood type, IQ, body type (I don't mean how fat you are - more like height and proportions), and disease vulnerabilities. I don't think it's a stretch to speculate that sexual orientation could also be influenced strongly by genes.



This really has nothing to do with the topic...



My opinion is that it can come from genetics or sexual abuse as a child. Either way, no one in their right mind would CHOOSE to be gay in today's society.

Sorry, people choose to be gay in today's society because it is now acceptable and we are making up reasons that people are born that way. If someone can be born gay why can they be born a pedophile. I believe the whole thing is a choice. Look around you at nature even the animals that a lot of you here believe we come from any gays among them? So, why is it that we are then suddenly born gay.We've all hard strong urges to do certain things(not necessarily sexual) but didn't because we know it's not right.

 

[Gaucho]

This is a great thread question and really opens up a can of worms on philosophy.

If people are 'born' a certain way, then what chance is there of a heaven and a hell and how does god know where to send them? Considering if the statement holds true, 'god' created somebody a certain way, he effectively sentenced them to an afterlife in heaven/hell before they were even born.

 

[Darth]

This is a great thread question and really opens up a can of worms on philosophy.

If people are 'born' a certain way, then what chance is there of a heaven and a hell and how does god know where to send them? Considering if the statement holds true, 'god' created somebody a certain way, he effectively sentenced them to an afterlife in heaven/hell before they were even born.

Actually that is not a valid criticism.

1. People are not born gay. People may be born predisposed to being gay. Some people are also predisposed to being criminals. I may be predisposed to becoming an alcoholic.

2. Even if gayness is something inside a person from the very beginning, having gay feelings is not a sin. But ACTING on that perverted lust would be wrong.


See there are two different things: 1. Lust and 2. Love.

LUST is the feeling you get when you look at a pornographic picture.
LOVE is the feeling you have for your beautiful new wife whom you know inside and out.

In the attraction of man to woman, BOTH lust and love are possible.

But in man to man "attraction", the sexual attraction is only lustful in nature.

And to conclude, the obvious proof that homosexuality is a deviation is built into nature itself. The anus is meant for objects going OUT, not going IN. That's not opinion, it's simple biology.

 

[Alle_Gory]

This is a great thread question and really opens up a can of worms on philosophy.

If people are 'born' a certain way, then what chance is there of a heaven and a hell and how does god know where to send them? Considering if the statement holds true, 'god' created somebody a certain way, he effectively sentenced them to an afterlife in heaven/hell before they were even born.

In the bible, God killed millions of people. The Devil? Somewhere around 10.

Who's the bad guy?

 

[highconscienceness]

A woman can be a pedophile too dumb ass.

Man could represent a male and man kind. Just another prove you're retarded. :crackup:

 

[Darth]

I don't know which religion you believe in, but,

Matthew 5:28

But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Looking at other men and imagining having sex with them, clearly, would be a sin.

All I'm saying is, gayness itself is not a sin if you didn't deliberately choose it. I mean, kids grow up in bad homes and they get confused when they're a teenager....that's all it takes sometimes.

And the public school system doesn't help much either- they encourage middle schoolers to "question their sexuality" now.

I really do believe environment has a huge impact. Look at this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...x_partners_in_the_last_12_months_been_men.JPG

Check out other graphs of percentage of gay people over time.

 

[Alle_Gory]

A woman can be a pedophile too dumb ass.

Man could represent a male and man kind.

That's a good excuse. Better stick with that one.

Looking at other men and imagining having sex with them, clearly, would be a sin.

Then you're sinning too when looking at women. Your dad was a sinner too because he looked lustfully at your mom, and your mom is a sinner too because she looked lustfully at your dad before marriage.

I really do believe environment has a huge impact. Look at this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...x_partners_in_the_last_12_months_been_men.JPG

Check out other graphs of percentage of gay people over time.

For an extreme example, check out Senator Larry Craig. Yes I was soliciting sex in the men's bathroom and got caught by a police officer, no I am not gay.

Environment also influences how truthful people can be with each other.

 

[Darth]

Then you're sinning too when looking at women.

Clearly we are all sinners. I'm a sinner, no doubt about it. You're a sinner. My parents are sinners.

If you've ever been in love, though, you know the difference between that and lust.

ALSO, I think Jesus may have been exaggerating to make a point there. He does that in other things he says (like when he said it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God).

I'm pretty sure that actually doing the deed is worse than thinking about it. Especially an unconscious thought you have no control over.

Like if you dream about having sex.

Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Darth]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but you're probably right. I'll ask a priest sometime. You're right, I'm no theologian. I should get an expert opinion.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Like if you dream about having sex.

Nothing wrong with that.

Interesting how you are able to make up your own morality. But the book of God is very clear. Only those who accept and follow Jesus Christ and his teachings may enter through the gates of heaven.

1 Thessalonians 4:7-8, "God has called us to be holy, not to live impure lives. Anyone who refuses to live by these rules is not disobeying human rules but is rejecting God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you."

Exactly my point thank you.

I know I can't follow all of Gods rules, but I don't try to twist the meanings and make up a reasoning that exempts from them.

Unfortunately, you also do. We are all sinners and therefore, we are all damned.

 

[Darth]

I have to take issue with this...

Interesting how you are able to make up your own morality.

Huh? That last thing I said is true.

SAINTS have had sexy dreams. St. Thomas Aquinas even said, it's not a sin because it wasn't voluntary.

So you're incorrect there.

 

[TheGrandRascal]

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"Take a look at Deep Dish's signature."

Ah -- I missed that part of the message. Gotcha. Apologies for my inattention. :kick:

 

[TheGrandRascal]

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"Take a look at Deep Dish's signature."

Ah -- I missed that part of the message. Apologies for my inattention. :kick:

 

[TheGrandRascal]

Deep Dish, I'm still awaiting answers to my questions! I'd be much interested in any input you have.

 

[Rogue]

TheGrandRascal:
1. Does the Mysoped typically target a paticular age, sex, race, hair, build, or physical type of child? Or will just ANY child do for a target?

I don't know. I looked through my old college books and really couldn't find any mention of children preferences for mysopeds in particular.

2. I have read elsewhere that Mysopeds generally prefer blitz attacks and forcible abductions over any more subtle means of capture; but I am wondering if there might not be exceptions.

While I couldn't answer your first question with rock solid certainty, I did find an answer for this second question.

Some pedophiles who molest children specifically want to harm their victims physically. This type of pedophile, usually male, equates sexual arousal with fatal violence. Typically, the child is a stranger to this aggressive and sadistic child offender. It appears also that this stranger will stalk his victim rather than use any form of seduction (the typical method for pedophiles).

The mysoped will often abduct a child from places where children gather, such as playgrounds, schools, or shopping center game rooms.

(In regard to Amber Alerts, this may be the difference between mysopeds, parental abductions, and hospital abductions. With parental abductions, the abductor is not a stranger. With hospital abductions where a newborn child is stolen by a would-be mother, it may be a stranger but hospitals are not the scene for pedophiles, presumably for the premature development of infants. It could be if an Amber Alert has the combination of a child being abducted by a stranger in a public place, particularly where children gather, it may very well be a mysoped.)

He will usually not attempt to seduce or otherwise induce the child to go with him; he simply takes the child by force. However, some exceptions to this example do exist. Westley Dodd, a mysoped, abducted a 5-year-old child, Lee Eisley, from a schoolyard. He encouraged the child to go with him by promising to take him to McDonald's and to buy him a toy at a toy store. He strangled the boy and hanged him his closet when he went to work. After coming home at the end of the day, Dodd committed sexual acts against the corpse and expressed a desire to perform exploratory surgery on the child (author's files). Dodd was executed for his crimes.

The mysoped often mutilates the body of the child and commits acts of necrophilia (e.g. Dodd). Small girls are also victims of the mysoped. One serialist told us:

I got her [a 12-year-old] to my home. My brother was working the late shift so I knew I would have her all to myself. I ravished her for 12 hours and then strangled her. I inserted 7 pounds of rock inside her vagina, up her rectum, and down her throat. That was gratifying. Only after my fantasies were realized, I decided that I must dispose of her body before my brother gets home, he knew nothing of desires. (Author's files)

The mysoped often terrorizes the child because this is part of his fantasy; he feeds off his victim's terror. Sometimes a weapon is used, and the crime is premeditated and ritualized. Sadism is an integral part of the mysoped's actions, with the death of the child being the desired end (Burgess, Holstrom, Sgroi & Groth, 1978).

Source: Sex Crimes: Patterns and Behavior, second edition, Stephen Holmes & Ronald Holmes.

 

[Reyaj]

This is a great thread question and really opens up a can of worms on philosophy.

If people are 'born' a certain way, then what chance is there of a heaven and a hell and how does god know where to send them? Considering if the statement holds true, 'god' created somebody a certain way, he effectively sentenced them to an afterlife in heaven/hell before they were even born.

When it comes to whether God exists or not... I think you have to ask yourself whether or not there is a will to things or is everything just random? I read recently that a super Genius physicist denied that there was a God but that everything happend randomly through the Big Bang theory.

But think about it... doesn't even a typical day have a sequence to it? It's day, and then its night. The sun goes up, and the sun goes down. The sun gives us energy and life...

 

[Alle_Gory]

But think about it... doesn't even a typical day have a sequence to it? It's day, and then its night. The sun goes up, and the sun goes down. The sun gives us energy and life...

There's sequence to lots of things, that doesn't mean there's a god. You can't prove or disprove anything like that. It's a very emotional practice. We all know, that no matter how much logic and reasoning you can NEVER explain away emotion.

Just talk to a woman some time. Try to reason with her when she's emotional.

Can't do it can you?