If a man is born gay, can a man be born a pedophile?

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emotions are caused by the brain releasing a special enzyme , like for anger depression happiness love.... everyone of these have enzymes that are linked into these different emotions, now by thinking a single thought for a really small time like a nanosec our brain rlses an amount of enzyme that links up with that emotion.... like depression for example , now i f a person is consistently depressed his brain will alter in a way that will make it easier for him to get depressed , cuz he is getting too much of these enzymes, his brain makes it alot easier for him to recieve alot more of these enzymes , aka makeing him depressed more and more.... now he can get out of this horrible cycle but it takes time and a different way to think....
Emotions arent caused by enzymes but by neurotransmitters.
 

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In the age of rebelling against not only your parents but society as a whole (why do you think dressing punk is so cool)? It's actually becoming cool to be gay. To join the fight to legalize gay marriage... Being a part of something that will one day be in history books. Like the women who fought for nothing more than having a right to vote. To be everything your mother and father didn't want.
Good theory, but if it were true more homosexuals would be open about their orientation. As it is now, the vast majority are "in the closet" and too scared/ashamed to admit it. If it were a conduit of rebellion, they would flaunt it. Your dressing punk example is perfect - it's a very noticable and undeniable form of rebellian. Exactly the opposite of the behavior of most homosexuals.

To be everything the opposite sex WANTS. Just look at women. Almost too many women are ATLEAST openly bisexual. Then you have the lesbians/gays seduction technique. "Women know what women want" or "Men know what men want". Sounds kind of tempting to have the ultimate orgasm because supposedly someone knows exactly what you want because they are the same sex as you.
Bisexual, young women are the obvious exception. It's trendy to be a bisexual, young woman because it's another way to attract men. It's like wearing makeup or getting a boob job; Fake and nice to look at.

Bisexual men are descriminated against as much as gay men.

Everything you know about Science is wrong.

And by the way, everything you know about psychology is probably wrong too.
This is absurd and you know it.
 

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"Good theory, but if it were true more homosexuals would be open about their orientation. As it is now, the vast majority are "in the closet" and too scared/ashamed to admit it. If it were a conduit of rebellion, they would flaunt it. Your dressing punk example is perfect - it's a very noticable and undeniable form of rebellian. Exactly the opposite of the behavior of most homosexuals."

What world are you living in? Have you ever spoken to a lesbian? Have you ever asked a woman if she'd ever make out with another chick? They have no problem admitting it. Men are slowly getting there too.

"This is absurd and you know it."

Scientific proof is based off scientific evidence which is based off of past scientific evidence. Science is based off science is based off science.

I guess I'm just illiterate. ;)
 

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Originally posted by diplomatic_lies
Weren't people peds in the past? I mean we had Romans and Greeks sleeping with little kids, and medieval nobles marrying 10-year-old girls.

"Legal age" is relative to the society we're in.

this is the best answer so far
 

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Originally posted by diplomatic_lies
Weren't people peds in the past? I mean we had Romans and Greeks sleeping with little kids, and medieval nobles marrying 10-year-old girls.

"Legal age" is relative to the society we're in.
they also had slaves they also raped and killed women freely they also tortured people for no apparent reason other then joy for some sick bastards.....
They also put children in cages where they were fed to be strong workers when they grow up so that they could sell them for more money.....

so why arent we doing these things now ?
is it because of the society we live in ?
NO ITS CUZ WE UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE THINGS ARE WRONG , SAME GOES FOR HAVING SEX WITH UNDERAGE CHILDREN...... 14 and younger = children.....
 

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NO ITS CUZ WE UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE THINGS ARE WRONG , SAME GOES FOR HAVING SEX WITH UNDERAGE CHILDREN...... 14 and younger = children.....
There are no standards other than the ones we have now, so what then did back then cant be considered as being "wrong".
 

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i think most pedofiles are the guys who never got any love when they ware young. when they got older (mid twenties-fortys) and started getting in the relationships they ware hugely disapointed. Out of that disapointment they turned back looking for that young inocent love that they wanted so bad back in their youth (and never got it). YOUNG GUYS WHO ARE STARTING IN THEIR PUBERTY MUST BE ALOWED TO EXPRESS THEIR SEXUALITY AND HAVE (APPROPRIATE) RELSTIONSHIPS WITH FEMALES THEIR AGE. No i'm not saying that 13 yo guys should be having sex. what i'm saying is that they should be alowed to have relationships even if they are just holding hands with a gurl.... that part of their life has to mature also......
 

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Even if someone is "born" a pedophile or a serial killer or whatever, that has no bearing on if they should be in jail or not. The simple fact is: they are still a danger to society with or without free will.

Ya know, assuming human beings have free will to start with.
 

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Originally posted by thederekeffect1
Screw science. Science has been proven wrong time after time. A science teacher once told me that Science has more flaws than it has proof, intelligence and right's.

Everything you know about Science is wrong.

"Weren't people peds in the past? I mean we had Romans and Greeks sleeping with little kids, and medieval nobles marrying 10-year-old girls.

'Legal age' is relative to the society we're in."

That still happens in some countries. It doesn't make it right.

"Off-the-wall sexual behaviours seems to stem from childhood trauma of some sort. I don't think anyone is "born" anything, but has different levels of 'potential' that arise through the years due to experiences."

Actually, I think that a pedophile is attracted to little kids because they're still pure. The majority of pedophiles are men. Men are attracted to innocense.

"My opinion is that it can come from genetics or sexual abuse as a child. Either way, no one in their right mind would CHOOSE to be gay in today's society."

In the age of rebelling against not only your parents but society as a whole (why do you think dressing punk is so cool)? It's actually becoming cool to be gay. To join the fight to legalize gay marriage... Being a part of something that will one day be in history books. Like the women who fought for nothing more than having a right to vote. To be everything your mother and father didn't want. To be everything the opposite sex WANTS. Just look at women. Almost too many women are ATLEAST openly bisexual. Then you have the lesbians/gays seduction technique. "Women know what women want" or "Men know what men want". Sounds kind of tempting to have the ultimate orgasm because supposedly someone knows exactly what you want because they are the same sex as you.

And by the way, everything you know about psychology is probably wrong too.
Oh good.

I'm glad you cleared that up.
 

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Originally posted by thederekeffect1

What world are you living in? Have you ever spoken to a lesbian? Have you ever asked a woman if she'd ever make out with another chick? They have no problem admitting it. Men are slowly getting there too.
Now you're just being stuborn.

Scientific proof is based off scientific evidence which is based off of past scientific evidence. Science is based off science is based off science.

I guess I'm just illiterate. ;)
Scientific proof is based on experiments, data, and logic. Here's an example of a very early experiment: I drop a bullet and a cannon ball off of a building. Which one will land first? The heavy one? Nope, they both land at the same time. Before this scientific experiment, it was believed that heavier objects fell faster than lighter ones. Science just proved this wrong based on an experiment, not other science.
 

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Morals are not relative. I'm sick of people justifying their actions. There is a right and wrong concerning everything. It's all black and white, there is no gray.
 

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Originally posted by Iamnotacrook
Morals are not relative. I'm sick of people justifying their actions. There is a right and wrong concerning everything. It's all black and white, there is no gray.
Who defines these morals, then? Does everyone "just know"? Is there an objective list of rights and wrongs somewhere that we all understand that we should abide by?

No, this is not the case. Moron.
 

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Originally posted by doctoroxygen
Who defines these morals, then? Does everyone "just know"? Is there an objective list of rights and wrongs somewhere that we all understand that we should abide by?

No, this is not the case. Moron.
I guess this answers the original question. doctoroxygen was born a paedophile.
 

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there is no such thing as choice. its all cause/ effect in your brain like a computer. your brain is just a computer.
 

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Originally posted by dirtyvibe
there is no such thing as choice. its all cause/ effect in your brain like a computer. your brain is just a computer.
Dont be so naive. I dont see how YOU can completely rule something out. Ever heard of girls who get sick of guys and want to play with boobs? Thats a choice little boy. Your brain is NOT a computer. Your brain is FAR more complicated than a computer. Parallel processing vs Linear processing. Sit down, shut up, and take a number.
 

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Originally posted by oakraiderz2
Dont be so naive. I dont see how YOU can completely rule something out. Ever heard of girls who get sick of guys and want to play with boobs? Thats a choice little boy. Your brain is NOT a computer. Your brain is FAR more complicated than a computer. Parallel processing vs Linear processing. Sit down, shut up, and take a number.
did you ever think that maybe they always were gay and denied their gay feelings?

they didn't choose to be gay, they chose to come out
 

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Originally posted by oakraiderz2
Dont be so naive. I dont see how YOU can completely rule something out. Ever heard of girls who get sick of guys and want to play with boobs? Thats a choice little boy. Your brain is NOT a computer. Your brain is FAR more complicated than a computer. Parallel processing vs Linear processing. Sit down, shut up, and take a number.
parallel processing is just multitasking.. like doing running and juggling at the same time instead of just running or just juggling. i dont see how that implies choice.
 

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Originally posted by thederekeffect1


"This is absurd and you know it."

Scientific proof is based off scientific evidence which is based off of past scientific evidence. Science is based off science is based off science.

I guess I'm just illiterate. ;)
Yes. Yes you are.

The Philosophy of Science

Try knowing what you are talking about before you spout BS.

From the article:
However, it is common for members of the public to have the opposite view of science — many lay people believe that scientists are making claims of infallibility. Science serves in the process of consensus decision making by which people of varying moral and ethical views come to agree on 'what is real'. In secular and technological societies, without any stronger conception of reality based on other shared ethical or moral or religious grounds, science has come to serve as the primary arbiter in disputes. This leads to the abuse of scientific dialogue for political or commercial ends.
 

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Originally posted by Alicorn
Yes. Yes you are.

The Philosophy of Science

Try knowing what you are talking about before you spout BS.

From the article:
that's cute man really.
woh look man you're like the science man of sosuave man. you know thats a cool shirt man. i used to have one just like it man.
 
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