If a man is born gay, can a man be born a pedophile?

[manuva]

Originally posted by dirtyvibe
that's cute man really.
woh look man you're like the science man of sosuave man. you know thats a cool shirt man. i used to have one just like it man.

Pathetic. You just admitted defeat in the weakest possible manner.

 

[dirtyvibe]

Originally posted by manuva
Pathetic. You just admitted defeat in the weakest possible manner.

woh man chillllllllll down. *gives girl language eye move to girl* say can i talk to you alone for a sec away from thits guy?

BAM BANG BANG **** CLOSE

 

[Deep Dish]

If a man is born gay, can a man be born a pedophile?

I hold a certificate from a major university in Criminal Profiling. Pedophilia is one of five crimes which is qualified for profiling and I once took a class entirely devoted to Sex Offenders. With those credentials out of the way, no, pedophiles are not born.

First, let me explain that there are four components for all sexual acts done by every single person on earth: fantasy, symbolism, ritualism, and compulsion. Aside from social constructionism, the difference with the sex offender is that this process takes control of their life. They continually and gradually need to up the sexual ante in order to become sexually aroused. They often begin with relatively innocuous behavior such as voyeurism (e.g. peeping tom), exhibitionism (e.g. flashing), or crotch sniffing—yes, there are guys who actually bend down on all fours and sniff the crotches of unsuspecting women—but eventually they need more stimulation and move onto more serious behaviors. For instance, a sex offender may start out with exhibitonism, then turn towards enemas, then turn towards shoving golf tees up into their Johnny—I have seen the X-rays, then turn towards auterotic asphyxiation, and then die. I forget the exact statistics, but most sex offenders are found to engage in four or more paraphilias simulatenously.

Moving onto the pedophile, there are five types of pedophilia: fixated, regressed, situational, mysoped, and one other type which I forget. (Sorry, I am too lazy right now to look into my books and explain each type.)

With notable exception of the mysoped, pedophiles don’t intend to injure children, rather viewing themselve as a father figure (who just so happens to fvck children). It is these guys who have twisted thinking and swear that it was the child who came onto him. With the situational pedophile, their pedophilia happens only under the right circumstances. I am reminded of a case of a 40-year old Boy Scout leader who engaged in pedophilia after being devasted by finding out his wife planned to divorce him, if I recall correctly. During this devastation, he went to a Boy Scout camping event and when at night a boy came into his tent to sleep, the man decided to go to town. It was his first act of pedophilia. In regards to mysopeds, these intend to hurt children and whenever you hear an Amber Alert of an abducted child, it is always a mysoped since mysopeds are the only ones who will kidnap children. To put the mysoped into perspective, Wesley Dodd, who started out with simple exhibitionism, molested approximately 100 boys before kidnapping and murdering three boys. (There is a strong correlation with sex offenders and serial murderers, by the way.) Most interestingly, he would help boys in trouble, such as those who had fallen off a bicycle, and in his jailhouse interviews he said it puzzled him how he would inflict so harm to children who he otherwise loved so much.

Most remarkably, pedophilic men who have sex with boys are not gay. They have sex with their wives and associate themselves with heterosexuality. They would never dare to have sex with men but young boys turn them on.

(This post was written off of the top of my head and rightfully so it may contain minor errors.)

 

[doctoroxygen]

Originally posted by dirtyvibe
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[oakraiderz2]

Originally posted by dirtyvibe
parallel processing is just multitasking.. like doing running and juggling at the same time instead of just running or just juggling. i dont see how that implies choice.

Yea, homeboy said our brains are like computers. It has nothing to do with choice, and I didnt say it did.

 

[thederekeffect1]

Originally posted by Alicorn
Yes. Yes you are.

The Philosophy of Science

Try knowing what you are talking about before you spout BS.

From the article:

You know the difference is between you and me? I don't have to throw in an insult to make a valid arguement.

 

[Alicorn]

Originally posted by thederekeffect1
You know the difference is between you and me? I don't have to throw in an insult to make a valid arguement.

The difference is, you don't have valid arguments.

 

[dirtyvibe]

Originally posted by oakraiderz2
Yea, homeboy said our brains are like computers. It has nothing to do with choice, and I didnt say it did.

there are computers that parralel and linear process. hyperthreading p4s makes 2 virtual processors and some server boards use 2 processors. some computers use linear processing. it doesnt matter anyway, im just trying to say that your brain is like input->output where the output will be the same everytime for a brain in a certain state with a certain input

 

[The Juan and only]

Originally posted by WORKEROUTER
Off-the-wall sexual behaviours seems to stem from childhood trauma of some sort. I don't think anyone is "born" anything, but has different levels of "potential" that arise through the years due to experiences.

I'd agree with that. I don't think anyone is born "gay"...but then to be honest I don't really know.

 

[Monkey]

Originally posted by Morphiex
if ur attracted to males then its cuz of an experiance u had from before probably....

Not so. I think most gays are born that way.

Straight men are attracted to women without knowing why.

In its rawest form we can get hard-ons just by looking at hot woman and we don't conciously 'create' them , they just happen, its a chemical response to what we see.

I'm sure this is the same for gays

 

[WORKEROUTER]

Originally posted by doctoroxygen
Gays aren't born gay, they become that way. It's like being cool: there's no cool gene, there's no gay gene. Some people just choose to express their sexuality in another way, for reasons that probably have a lot to do with environment.

Part of it is environmental stimuli, but the other part is genetic, that is, the particular way the person reacts to that stimuli.

I really don't see why someone would "choose" to be gay in a society that is still largely homophobic.

Pedophiles don't ONLY prey on children because of their purity. What about the fact that it allows them to exhibit a sort of dominance over something, thus satisfying a primitive male urge that is not being satisfied in their life? But regardless, all of the "reasons" why a pedophile desires young children are odd sexual behaviours that must have stemmed from previous (probably childhood) trauma.

 

[TheGrandRascal]

A Few Questions About Mysopeds...

"...In regards to mysopeds, these intend to hurt children and whenever you hear an Amber Alert of an abducted child, it is always a mysoped since mysopeds are the only ones who will kidnap children. To put the mysoped into perspective, Wesley Dodd, who started out with simple exhibitionism, molested approximately 100 boys before kidnapping and murdering three boys. (There is a strong correlation with sex offenders and serial murderers, by the way.)..."

Deep Dish, I have two questions regarding Mysopeds, a subject which (in my humble opinion) has received far too little attention:

1. Does the Mysoped typically target a paticular age, sex, race, hair, build, or physical type of child? Or will just ANY child do for a target?

2. I have read elsewhere that Mysopeds generally prefer blitz attacks and forcible abductions over any more subtle means of capture; but I am wondering if there might not be exceptions. Just as certain serial killers (Ted Bundy was an example) may use such ploys as faking physical infirmity to lure women into assisting and going with them (Bundy wore a fake cast on his arm), might not certain Mysopeds prefer to lure, to seduce, or to trick their target child into their control, relishing this as part of "the hunt" or "reeling in the prey"? It certainly is a sadistic mindset that I can very easily conceive of in such a person...

Incidentally -- and not to be argumentative -- but when you say that "whenever you hear an Amber Alert of an abducted child, it is always a Mysoped, since Mysopeds are the only ones who will kidnap children", surely you are overlooking parental abductions? I frankly find it very difficult to conceive that ALL child abductions should be due to Mysopeds!

I appreciate your time and attention in this matter, and thank you for any insight you can furnish in this matter.

 

[Rogue]

I appreciate your time and attention in this matter, and thank you for any insight you can furnish in this matter.

In the five years since this thread, my memory is fuzzy. I will take some time to dig around in some research, refresh my memory, and recalibrate any wording.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Most remarkably, pedophilic men who have sex with boys are not gay. They have sex with their wives and associate themselves with heterosexuality. They would never dare to have sex with men but young boys turn them on.

Are they also turned on by the wife in the heterosexual part of their life?

About homosexuality being a choice, it is and it isn't. There's been plenty of studies done on homosexual men, women and straight men, and the consensus is that homosexual men have a specific part of the brain located in the hypothalamus that is very similar to women. Straight men have the regular structure, and there have been cases of this part of the brain being damaged for whatever reason (surgery and etc.) where the straight man has turned gay. Anecdotal evidence, so it's not too reliable.

Some reading about brain differences: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/06/080616-gay-brain_2.html

And that little part of the brain I mentioned: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suprachiasmatic_nucleus

So in conclusion: Homosexuality is a choice and it isn't. First you have to define what is homosexuality. Behaviour, or simply that inner desire. Straight men can engage in homosexual behaviour, and homosexual men can engage in straight behaviour. So which makes you gay?

 

[Darth]

Homosexuality itself is a mental disorder, like bipolar or someone with a weird fetish. They weren't born with it, but they could be genetically predisposed to developing it.

Into the 70's, homosexuality was a mental disorder and was in the official handbook as such.

The DSM-II listed homosexuality as an abnormal behavior under section "302. Sexual Deviations." It was the first deviation listed.

Why was it changed? New research?

Nope.

It was gay activists harassing the APA.

"The effort to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the DSM was the result of power politics, threats, and intimidation, not scientific discoveries...After much political pressure, a committee of the APA met behind closed doors in 1973 and voted to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the DSM-II. Opponents of this effort were given 15 minutes to protest this change."

 

[Darth]

"Dr. Socarides, writing in Sexual Politics and Scientific Logic: The Issue of Homosexuality writes: "To declare a condition a 'non-condition,' a group of practitioners had removed it from our list of serious psychosexual disorders. The action was all the more remarkable when one considers that it involved an out-of-hand and peremptory disregard and dismissal not only of hundreds of psychiatric and psychoanalytic research papers and reports, but also a number of other serious studies by groups of psychiatrists, psychologists, and educators over the past seventy years…" "

 

[Alle_Gory]

Homosexuality itself is a mental disorder, like bipolar or someone with a weird fetish. They weren't born with it, but they could be genetically predisposed to developing it.

Good argument. I can see how you could potentially become homosexual if predisposed to it. Like autism and diabetes and other genetic abnormalities. Some people have damaged genetics and could develop these conditions. Makes sense.

Into the 70's, homosexuality was a mental disorder and was in the official handbook as such.

There's been much progress in the field of psychiatry since the 70s. It's less the garbage bin of the medicines and now a more respected field. I doubt that info still remains valid.

The DSM-II listed homosexuality as an abnormal behavior under section "302. Sexual Deviations." It was the first deviation listed.

But is it really? Or is it some remnant of our past. Look at animals, they exhibit homosexual behaviour sometimes. Is this deviancy? Can it be deviancy if it happens naturally?

Many questions to answer since homosexuality is more complex.

Why was it changed? New research?

Nope.

Yes, yes new research. Especially in other fields like anatomy and biochemistry. Thanks to new technology and computer processing power we can now see how the body functions in real time... without killing the patient!

This has led to new discoveries. And this is how we found out about the structure of a gay man's brain, a straight woman's brain and a straight man's brain. There's no conspiracy, it's just research.

Now the question is, is the homosexual man's brain malformed like other conditions involving the brain, or is it just another natural variation?

 

[highconscienceness]

Let me take your pointless debate to a higher level.

if man was born pedophile and not aborted then he or she should be executed via public hanging




Now let me also note that majority of elites are pedophiles. I'll give you some names, George Soros, Zbigniew Brzezinski. The reason you are being asked to think and morally judge and get feminized about such low lives is because that's where they are taking it. For those bastards it's a pleasure to **** a goyim boy or girl. Take a .50 and blow their brains out!

 

[TheGrandRascal]

Ahem: Is "Deep Dish" Now "Rogue" ???

"In the five years since this thread, my memory is fuzzy. I will take some time to dig around in some research, refresh my memory, and recalibrate any wording."

Pardon me, but my message was addressed to "Deep Dish". Have you changed your handle since your original posting?

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P.S. & N.B.: I have amended my second question for clarification; you might wish to re-read it. It has not been changed in general gist, but I have somewhat expanded upon it.

 

[Rogue]

Pardon me, but my message was addressed to "Deep Dish". Have you changed your handle since your original posting?

Take a look at Deep Dish's signature.