I talked to guys who are getting laid a lot in 2023, here's how they are meeting women.

[SW15]

There’s no single men in church anymore.

There's no single men in church anymore because there are no single women in church anymore.

If you observe the attendees of Sunday services in the Christian faiths (both Catholics and Protestant denominations), it is mainly older (45+) people with some younger families mixed in.

I remain convinced the reason most men struggle isn't just because of their average looks/height but because they have awful photos/bios.

I think a lot of men have problems with the photos/bios part of swipe apps. The bios are mainly meaningless but the photos/videos part is not meaningless. There was even a time where I got my photos for the swipe apps re-done by a professional photographer and it made very little difference on my outcomes. I got a few more matches and maybe a few more "1 date, no sex, no second date" type interactions.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Oh yes there are! But we never match with them unfortunately, lots of fake accounts too.

I match with the 7+ women quite often and while they're definitely more flakey/fickle I do occassionally land dates if not at least their #. I could record a video and upload it if ya'll really don't believe me.

There's no single men in church anymore because there are no single women in church anymore.

If you observe the attendees of Sunday services in the Christian faiths (both Catholics and Protestant denominations), it is mainly older (45+) people with some younger families mixed in.



I think a lot of men have problems with the photos/bios part of swipe apps. The bios are mainly meaningless but the photos/videos part is not meaningless. There was even a time where I got my photos for the swipe apps re-done by a professional photographer and it made very little difference on my outcomes. I got a few more matches and maybe a few more "1 date, no sex, no second date" type interactions.

I would be curious to see them. It's not just about having good quality but the story they tell. If you have a simp photographer your photos may come off that way.

 

[anonymous12345]

The typical man has a lousy experience on the swipe apps. Tinder is about 75% male and Bumble/Hinge are about 65% male. Those are flat out sausage fests. Those are the kind of ratios you'd get from a bad nightlife venue or a dayclub with a pool party/DJ.

So where the hell are the girls? If OLD is sausage fests, much of night life is too, where do they flock? In my country people have plenty of ONS according to stats, but I can't figure out where to meet these girls.

 

[EyeBRollin]

There's no single men in church anymore because there are no single women in church anymore.

Our church has a skewed ratio. The only men in there are married or are boys. There are plenty of adult women though.

 

[mikedee]

I match with the 7+ women quite often and while they're definitely more flakey/fickle I do occassionally land dates if not at least their #. I could record a video and upload it if ya'll really don't believe me.


I would be curious to see them. It's not just about having good quality but the story they tell. If you have a simp photographer your photos may come off that way.

I believe you, I only match with 8+ because I only swipe right on 8+, but it rarely happens. Easier to approach 8+ on the street, plus you dont have to pay for premium bs, no limitation.On old your just an account, irl youre the guy with a pair of balls who approached her.
On old the girls are most of the time less attractive in real life, irl this doesnt happen.

 

[I_have_BDE]

what type of girls looks wise are going to be on OLD though? Its gotta be full of 5-6s

At least thats what I saw when i dabbled in it.

Theres no free lunch in this world homie.

Same here. Pre covid there was more hotter women on old. Still not very good but better than now. Now at least 90 percent of the women are fat l, ugly, etc on old so i have no interest in them.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I try my best not to put myself with most men aka mediocrity

It's because they take the same no effort mindset of getting women in real life and surprise, surprise, it doesn't work any better online than it does there...unless you are super good looking. Gotta be able to know how to converse with people and make them want to meet you.

 

[Gamisch]

Very well said.

100% this. You're confirming a point that I've repeatedly made on SS, namely: it's highly unlikely that a clinically sane woman is going to be amenable to the kind of cold approach advertised by PUAs ... street, mall and grocery store.

C approach imo.is like learning self defense, but ofcourse its much more and better applicable than self defense.

The approach frenzy every man must go through at some point in his life is the equivalent of learning how to punch . Why? Because at some point you'll have to apply your skills in real life. Although you pray you'll never have to knock a mf out ,if you got to do it it must be a 1 2 3 combo and gone. Just like your approach: a smooth tap tap tap combo and out.

The club, the (beach) party or heck even the grocery store or the park = a dojo where you can " practice " and sharpen your skills on women who're actually open to the idea of getting approached ( although the park and grocery store will mostly be rather circumstantial approaches ofcourse)

My wife and I have met some really nice single girls in church. There’s no single men in church anymore. Might be worth a look.

I cleaned up on the apps. They were easy once you had good photos.

Tbh the landscape is ever changing, what worked lets say pre pandemic is obsolete nowadays . Huge reason is the greed of Match llc group!!

So where the hell are the girls? If OLD is sausage fests, much of night life is too, where do they flock? In my country people have plenty of ONS according to stats, but I can't figure out where to meet these girls.

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This is the REAL interesting point that nobody talks about!

75% of OLD users are men. Just facts. And you can bet that Match llc group doesn NOT like us to know such facts..they rather keep us guessing.

Where are these women? They're out there bro. Swimming, partying, playing sports ,visiting concerts, eating out, ect.

Makes sense , if you GET approached you rather go out and gave fun..
If you HAVE to "take risks " some men rather stay at home their save space where they minimize the risk of getting rejected..

 

[anonymous12345]

Where are these women? They're out there bro. Swimming, partying, playing sports ,visiting concerts, eating out, ect.

In short: events. I've had some luck at those kind. It's a good point and a good idea in general; have a fun, active life. I'm currently without a job so such things must wait. It's some middle ground between cold approach and social circle.

 

[SW15]

So where the hell are the girls? If OLD is sausage fests, much of night life is too, where do they flock? In my country people have plenty of ONS according to stats, but I can't figure out where to meet these girls.

This is the REAL interesting point that nobody talks about!

75% of OLD users are men. Just facts. And you can bet that Match llc group doesn NOT like us to know such facts..they rather keep us guessing.

Where are these women? They're out there bro. Swimming, partying, playing sports ,visiting concerts, eating out, ect.

Makes sense , if you GET approached you rather go out and gave fun..
If you HAVE to "take risks " some men rather stay at home their save space where they minimize the risk of getting rejected..

The best ratios I have seen have been in fitness classes, where most fitness class formats are at least 65-75% female. Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge are all 65-75% male. The biggest problem with fitness classes is that women are not known for being sociable after fitness classes, so the great ratios there are a bit meaningless.

Playing of sports tends to also be a bit of a sausage fest as well. It's very difficult to meet women through playing a sport. Below, I will leave some thoughts about co-ed sports leagues. Co-ed sports leagues are the most common way men try to meet women from sports.

Mostly anything that involves the real world will have better ratios than either swipe apps or nightlife venues.

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Over time, I have talked a lot about co-ed sports leagues because I have been one of the many men who has participated in co-ed sports leagues with the hope of getting my penis wet from participation in the league. While there are men that do achieve mating success in co-ed sports leagues, most men who do co-ed sports league to try to avoid swiping or pure cold approach end up disappointed in the co-ed sports league from a mating perspective.

Co-ed sports leagues are tough venues for most men due to bad ratios. In general, men are more interested in co-ed sports than women are.

Co-ed sports leagues can be considered a form of weak social circle game. They are not day game at all. It's not night game either although teams from a league will often congregate at a sponsor bar after that week's games. It’s pretty difficult to swoop into a co-ed kickball, softball, volleyball, or soccer league & directly arrange dates. First, there are more men than women in all these leagues. Nearly every other guy in these leagues is an unattached guy who is trying to get his penis wet in league because he read some advice article online or in a printed copy of a magazine about doing this. The only exceptions are the men who join teams with their girlfriends or wives. You can make friends in these leagues but chances are that the other men need sex as much as you do. If you’re able to develop a social circle from a co-ed sports league, realize it will take multiple seasons of participation in the league. So you’d better actually like that sport because playing that sport is often the only benefit of it.

 

[Gamisch]

The best ratios I have seen have been in fitness classes, where most fitness class formats are at least 65-75% female. Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge are all 65-75% male. The biggest problem with fitness classes is that women are not known for being sociable after fitness classes, so the great ratios there are a bit meaningless.

Playing of sports tends to also be a bit of a sausage fest as well. It's very difficult to meet women through playing a sport. Below, I will leave some thoughts about co-ed sports leagues. Co-ed sports leagues are the most common way men try to meet women from sports.

Mostly anything that involves the real world will have better ratios than either swipe apps or nightlife venues.

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Over time, I have talked a lot about co-ed sports leagues because I have been one of the many men who has participated in co-ed sports leagues with the hope of getting my penis wet from participation in the league. While there are men that do achieve mating success in co-ed sports leagues, most men who do co-ed sports league to try to avoid swiping or pure cold approach end up disappointed in the co-ed sports league from a mating perspective.

Co-ed sports leagues are tough venues for most men due to bad ratios. In general, men are more interested in co-ed sports than women are.

Co-ed sports leagues can be considered a form of weak social circle game. They are not day game at all. It's not night game either although teams from a league will often congregate at a sponsor bar after that week's games. It’s pretty difficult to swoop into a co-ed kickball, softball, volleyball, or soccer league & directly arrange dates. First, there are more men than women in all these leagues. Nearly every other guy in these leagues is an unattached guy who is trying to get his penis wet in league because he read some advice article online or in a printed copy of a magazine about doing this. The only exceptions are the men who join teams with their girlfriends or wives. You can make friends in these leagues but chances are that the other men need sex as much as you do. If you’re able to develop a social circle from a co-ed sports league, realize it will take multiple seasons of participation in the league. So you’d better actually like that sport because playing that sport is often the only benefit of it.

Oke . I think i kinda have an answer you might like a little better ...


Despite the fact you state that the male participants are thirsty its STILL a better opportunity to meet quality women...


Think about it: all it takes for the AFC participant is ONE woman whose single and somewhat in to him...and boom . Another woman = off the dating marketx another woman in a ltr that makes for example sosauve members wonder how the heck did AFC landed her...

Imagine you'd be a steadily participating with these sports for years...perhaps there would've been TONS of social circle-ish opportunities for you to meet or get introduced to quality women that wouldn't even acknowledge your existence in ANY other situation...especially OLD...

 

[SW15]

Despite the fact you state that the male participants are thirsty its STILL a better opportunity to meet quality women...

I agree with this but it's only applicable if a guy plays his cards the correct way.

Think about it: all it takes for the AFC participant is ONE woman whose single and somewhat in to him...and boom . Another woman = off the dating marketx another woman in a ltr that makes for example sosauve members wonder how the heck did AFC landed her...

Imagine you'd be a steadily participating with these sports for years...perhaps there would've been TONS of social circle-ish opportunities for you to meet or get introduced to quality women that wouldn't even acknowledge your existence in ANY other situation...especially OLD...

It's very difficult to swoop into a co-ed sports league for a season of the sport and walk away with some dates.

If a guy likes in a particular sport and does many league seasons of that sport (spanning multiple calendar years), he might be able to get either social circle-ish opportunities or a direct opportunity at the sponsor bar with a female playing on another team in the league. Same team random relationships also sometimes start, but are rare. Female teammates in a co-ed sports league might be able to give you introductions, which can be helpful.

Most co-ed sports league participants are under 35-40 and its more like under 36 for women.

Women 35+ do become available at private country and racquet clubs as a result of playing tennis, typically after a divorce. Never married, childless women under 35 are somewhat rare at country and racquet clubs. The highest probability girlfriend most men can get at a private club is a 35-50 year old divorcee with children. Even still, the middle aged women typically at country and racquet clubs playing tennis are far more likely to be married than divorced.

The most serious recreational tennis players are males. Despite its reputation as a female friendly sport, it really isn't in the most desirable age brackets.

Here's an experiment you can run for free.

Go to your public tennis courts and observe the players. You'll notice its a sausage fest. You will not see a lot of younger women playing singles matches against each other. When women are playing tennis, it is usually with a man such as a boyfriend, husband, brother, cousin, or any other male. Typically, it is a boyfriend.

While I have gotten dates from playing tennis, the number of dates I've gotten and the outcomes of these dates would not be a justification to play tennis.

 

[Velasco]

that is not Game from the guys perspective, it is just being chosen by women for ONS.

That is the lowest behaviour from women and I find it disgusting

lol. What is disgusting about being chosen by the girls of your type for a one night stand?

 

[kavi]

lol. What is disgusting about being chosen by the girls of your type for a one night stand?

idk just something about a woman wanting a ONS. Makes women seem desperate to me. Especially cos most women will act and pretend to be not into that, acting different in the daytime having standards, being cold to men who talk to them infront of others, being stuck up when asked out, and whatnot but then doing hookups in other circumstances. Like a jekly and hide thing.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

So are women on TInder just there for quick s3x? I mean are women using Tinder for hookups?

I find it hard to believe women would be on Tinder looking for quality romantic interactions, due to its seedy nature. Women may be on Tinder for validation from men, attention, maybe find a guy to take women out, or just quick s3x.

It seems to me Tinder is the most degen place I think most women should be ashamed to be on there. Women must be so depressed and lost that they are on TInder to get quick no string s3x from random guys like Jesse is posting about.

My experience is that some women just want sex. Others want more. Both of my Tinder LTRs started as casual flings.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

idk just something about a woman wanting a ONS. Makes women seem desperate to me. Especially cos most women will act and pretend to be not into that, acting different in the daytime having standards, being cold to men who talk to them infront of others, being stuck up when asked out, and whatnot but then doing hookups in other circumstances. Like a jekly and hide thing.

Women are horny AF. They love sex.

 

[BadBoy89]

Over the past year, I have had the chance to talk to guys who are getting laid a lot in 2023, I mean having a date every other day that turns into a lay or getting laid multiple times a week. Here is how they are meeting women.

A guy interviewing a 6'4 guy at a coffee shop asking about his sex life.

"So how often do you get laid?"
"Do you have Instagram game?"
"Is cold approach good for getting laid?"

That's got to be an awkward interview.

 

[SW15]

A guy interviewing a 6'4 guy at a coffee shop asking about his sex life.

"So how often do you get laid?"
"Do you have Instagram game?"
"Is cold approach good for getting laid?"

That's got to be an awkward interview.

Playing with Fire does this in Miami. Surprised @Jesse Pinkman hasn't run into him because he creates channel content in the Brickell neighborhood of Miami and likely has done his own street approaching in Brickell.

 

[MatureDJ]

By far, this is the most efficient and easy way to get laid if you can master it. I tried a pro photographer and it did not work.

Why? Are you a FaceCel?

 

[MatureDJ]

OP has very believable post. The only thing I would add is that location is key for the Instagram/swipe app game. Good looking guy on swipe app in college town with student body exceeding 30k=easy mode. Ugly to average guy in small towns with lopsided age demographics=hard mode.

It's OVER for HardModeCels.